Texas Voter ID Law Rejected by DC Appeals Court

[scott]

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/voter-id/dc-court-rejects-voter-id-law/


D.C. Court Rejects Texas' Voter ID Law

Texas’ controversial voter ID bill was struck down again, this time by a three-judge panel in Washington D.C. that determined the bill would disenfranchise certain segments of the voting-age population.

The bill, SB 14 sponsored by state Sen. Troy Fraser, R-Horseshoe Bay, requires that citizens furnish a photo ID before casting a ballot, and has been championed by supporters as a necessary tool to stamp out voter fraud in Texas.

Opponents argue that the bill would adversely affect voters who don’t have easy access to an ID, something the court agreed with in its ruling. Under Section 5 of the federal Voting Rights Act, the federal government must approve laws passed in states with a history of racial discrimination.

“We find that Texas has failed to make this showing—in fact, record evidence demonstrates that, if implemented, SB 14 will likely have a retrogressive effect,” the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia judges wrote in their opinion. “Given this, we have no need to consider whether Texas has satisfied section 5’s purpose element. Accordingly we deny the state’s request for a declaratory judgment.”

The decision comes after a ruling in March by the U.S. Department of Justice, which rejected Texas' application for preclearance saying the state did not prove that the bill would not have a discriminatory effect on minority voters.

Thursday’s decision is a result of a lawsuit filed by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott in January against the Department of Justice after he anticipated denial of preclearance. Abbott sought to have the law implemented immediately and said then that Texas is held to a higher bar than other states with similar laws.

The court’s decision is the second time in less than a week that Texas has been affected under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. On Tuesday, a court ruled that Texas lawmakers violated the act when they drew new state House, Senate and congressional maps.

This is a developing story. Check back for updates.

Is this the same 3-judge panel that killed the Texas maps? Abbott chose to appeal in that court because they were thought they'd be friendly. Not so much.

[mavs>spurs]

DC said no to policies that would hurt the guy in DC? whoa

[TeyshaBlue]

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/voter-id/dc-court-rejects-voter-id-law/



Is this the same 3-judge panel that killed the Texas maps? Abbott chose to appeal in that court because they were thought they'd be friendly. Not so much.

The panel isn't really identified in the article, so hard to say. As for the Tx map:

The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia issued the ruling. The state maps, passed by the Republican-dominated Texas legislature, redrew districts in a way that reduced the influence of minority voters, the court ruled.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-28/news/sns-rt-us-usa-texas-voter-idbre87r140-20120828_1_interim-maps-texas-legislature-voter-identification-law

[Winehole23]

related: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202764

[Winehole23]

the ruling
(http://www.scribd.com/doc/104210184/Texas-Voter-ID)

[scott]

DC said no to policies that would hurt the guy in DC? whoa

Cool analysis. You probably got all A's in college.

[scott]

the ruling
(http://www.scribd.com/doc/104210184/Texas-Voter-ID)

The Panel:

Judge Thomas B. Griffith (appointed by George W. Bush)
Judge Rosemary M. Collyer (appointed by George W. Bush)
Judge Beryl A. Howell (appointed by Barack Obama)

Not the same panel as the redistricting case (those were Reagan appointees)

[mavs>spurs]

Cool analysis. You probably got all A's in college.

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[scott]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[mavs>spurs]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[Winehole23]

:lmao

[mavs>spurs]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[mavs>spurs]

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[mavs>spurs]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[scott]

Where's the transcripts?

[mavs>spurs]

sorry didn't mean to ruin your thread scott

[scott]

From Twitter:

Greg Abbott @GregAbbott_TX
47m
#Texas will appeal #VoterID ruling to #SCOTUS to prevent cheating & illegal voting at ballot box.

[ElNono]

Looks like that same court was OK with Voter ID laws in other states... apparently, the issue isn't with Voter ID in general, but with how this specific law is constructed.

[boutons_deux]

From Twitter:

Greg Abbott @GregAbbott_TX
47m
#Texas will appeal #VoterID ruling to #SCOTUS to prevent cheating & illegal voting at ballot box.

For which Abbot has NO EVIDENCE

[boutons_deux]

Colorado’s Attempted Voter Purge Finds Nearly 90 Percent Of ‘Suspected Non-Citizens’ Are Actually U.S. Citizens

Although Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler (R) felt the need to question his state’s registered voters about their eligibility to vote, sending a letter earlier this month that asked about 4,000 Colorado residents to provide proof of citizenship, his office has confirmed that at least 88 percent of those voters are indeed U.S. citizens.

After running the voter information for 1,400 individuals through a federal database, however, Gessler’s office verified that the vast majority of the individuals who received the letter did have their paperwork in order and are eligible to vote. There are roughly 168 people remaining to be verified in the database, but an employee in Colorado’s election division acknowledged even this group “may also include people who are citizens.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/30/774461/colorado-voter-purge-finds-us-citizens/

Gessler is one "cagey" guy :lol

[boutons_deux]

Two Florida Republicans Want Law Allowing Gun Owners to Shoot 'Illegal' Voters

two men who identified themselves as Robert Stevens and John Nelson had handed me a flyer. It explained that they wanted the state of Florida to pass a “Protect the Polls law” under which “anyone suspected of committing voter fraud can be fired upon – provided the weapon is registered and operated by its licensed owner.”

Stevens claimed that “illegals and other people without government IDs” were committing voter fraud. I outlined a scenario, “I’m a gun owner. I go to the polls. I have my gun. So, how does it work? There’s this guy who looks like an illegal alien, and he looks pretty shifty ...”

“And you shoot him,” Stevens said, cutting me off. After some more questioning, and deciding that I would need to see identification, Stevens added, “I think a gun owner should be able to ask for ID and help us police the poll, protect the polls.”

http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/two-florida-republicans-want-law-allowing-gun-owners-shoot-illegal-voters

[coyotes_geek]

Two Florida Republicans Want Law Allowing Gun Owners to Shoot 'Illegal' Voters

two men who identified themselves as Robert Stevens and John Nelson had handed me a flyer. It explained that they wanted the state of Florida to pass a “Protect the Polls law” under which “anyone suspected of committing voter fraud can be fired upon – provided the weapon is registered and operated by its licensed owner.”

Stevens claimed that “illegals and other people without government IDs” were committing voter fraud. I outlined a scenario, “I’m a gun owner. I go to the polls. I have my gun. So, how does it work? There’s this guy who looks like an illegal alien, and he looks pretty shifty ...”

“And you shoot him,” Stevens said, cutting me off. After some more questioning, and deciding that I would need to see identification, Stevens added, “I think a gun owner should be able to ask for ID and help us police the poll, protect the polls.”

http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/two-florida-republicans-want-law-allowing-gun-owners-shoot-illegal-voters

Not buying it. Seriously, who's going to believe that some writer for alternet "just happened" to run into Wild Cobra?

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol:lol

[ElNono]

Not buying it. Seriously, who's going to believe that some writer for alternet "just happened" to run into Wild Cobra?

Plus it says Republicans, not Libertarians... something is fishy there...

[FromWayDowntown]

Is this the same 3-judge panel that killed the Texas maps?

One judge, Judge Rosemary Collyer (a George W. Bush appointee to the District Court for the District of Columbia) was on both panels.

The Voter ID panel also consisted of Judge David Tatel of the DC Circuit (a Clinton appointee) and Judge Robert Wilkins (an Obama appointee to the District Court for the District of Columbia).

The Redistricting panel included Judge Thomas Griffith of the DC Circuit (a George W. Bush appointee) and Judge Beryl Howell (an Obama appointee to the District Court for the District of Columbia).

[Winehole23]

another case related to an alleged disparate impact, but unrelated to voter ID law, that could end up before the Supreme Court:

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=39463

[Winehole23]

South Carolina: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/08/31/164598/sc-voter-id-law-takes-some-hits.html

[Wild Cobra]

Can someone please walk me through as to why Public Law 89-110 (http://library.clerk.house.gov/reference-files/PPL_VotingRightsAct_1965.pdf) can be used to say ID requirements are illegal?

What the fuck is wrong with these judges?

[Winehole23]

What the fuck is wrong with these judges?they don't pander to you, so you conclude they must be doing a bad job.

did you read the article? there are some hints there . . .

[Wild Cobra]

they don't pander to you, so you conclude they must be doing a bad job.

did you read the article? there are some hints there . . .
Money?

OK then vote by mail is illegal because you have to spend money on a stamp.

The law was designed to keep things like voting tests from keeping minorities from voting. ID is understandable to be a requirement.

[Wild Cobra]

OK, this is weird. Are they also going to overturn South Carolina's existing law? I just looked at a summary. people are already required to show ID. They can sign an affidavit to vote on a provisional ballot. What the new law does is increase the types of ID than can be used. The only added ID requirement is that anyone using a provisional ballot must later prove they are who they are with proper ID, before the certification.

Voter Identification Requirements (http://www.ncsl.org/legislatures-elections/elections/voter-id.aspx#sc)

[Winehole23]

a half assed try is at least a try, I guess.

later, WC.

[scott]

I remember the great stamp shortage of 76 when millions of Americans were left with no way of voting. Was a tradgedy.

[Wild Cobra]

I remember the great stamp shortage of 76 when millions of Americans were left with no way of voting. Was a tradgedy.
Scott...

Are you delusional...

How many states had vote by mail back then?

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Scott...

Are you delusional...

How many states had vote by mail back then?

?? All or almost all? My dad retired from the USAF in 1978, and ALWAYS voted by mail.

[Sec24Row7]

Really don't see scotus agreeing with this court... But who knows.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Looks like that same court was OK with Voter ID laws in other states... apparently, the issue isn't with Voter ID in general, but with how this specific law is constructed.

Texas is a recidivist case so is handled differently. Texas has about the worst history of minority voter restriction of all states and yes that includes AL and MS.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And it's nice to see that once again in any discussion that may concern race, WC is firmly on the side that the minorities are not.

[Bartleby]

another case related to an alleged disparate impact, but unrelated to voter ID law, that could end up before the Supreme Court:

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=39463

That's huge considering that, along with Florida, Ohio is arguably the most important swing state this year.

And how ironic would it be if the SCOTUS overturned a potentially critical swing-state voting decision that cites Bush v. Gore?

[Wild Cobra]

?? All or almost all? My dad retired from the USAF in 1978, and ALWAYS voted by mail.

There is a difference between allowing people to vote by mail in some circumstances, and having only vote by mail. My state went vote by mail in the 90's, but when I was in the military, I voted by mail before that time. I believe it's called absentee voting.

[Wild Cobra]

And it's nice to see that once again in any discussion that may concern race, WC is firmly on the side that the minorities are not.
Nice to see you are still the forum jester.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

There is a difference between allowing people to vote by mail in some circumstances, and having only vote by mail. My state went vote by mail in the 90's, but when I was in the military, I voted by mail before that time. I believe it's called absentee voting.

Moving the goalposts again, I see.

[Wild Cobra]

I remember the great stamp shortage of 76 when millions of Americans were left with no way of voting. Was a tradgedy.


Moving the goalposts again, I see.
That's a pretty inaccurate interpretation. I was responding to a fictional stamp shortage scenario.

Care to reevaluate your assessment?

[FromWayDowntown]

:pimpslap

[scott]

That's a pretty inaccurate interpretation. I was responding to a fictional stamp shortage scenario.

Care to reevaluate your assessment?

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[Winehole23]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-19/texas-judge-bars-state-from-ordering-country-voter-purges

[Winehole23]

http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2012-09-12/concerns-raised-after-living-texas-voters-flagged-state-dead#.UFt0nlG2-7Q

[Winehole23]

But after the county on Monday received hundreds of complaints from individuals who had received the letters, Harris County Tax Assessor-Collector and Voter Registrar Don Sumners announced that no voters would be purged from the rolls before the November election. The data, he said, was unreliable.http://www.texastribune.org/texas-newspaper/texas-news/brief-top-texas-news-sept-11-2012/

[Drachen]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[Drachen]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[Drachen]

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[Borat Sagyidev]

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I'm pretty sure a couple of other people who post here as well could have done it an afterthought.

Good work. The beaners can use you to count beans now.