win shares

[gee]

So I'm dumb as hell and don't really get the concept of win shares, other than Ginobili is rated #3 in active NBA players, anyone care to concisely explain it to me?

[racm]

It's a function of how much a player contributes to his team on both ends of the court. This effectively means stat padders on bad teams get lower win shares than a guy who posts slightly less numbers but is on an elite team.

Meanwhile, win shares per 48 minutes is a measure of how good a player is "per-minute". For example, Karl Malone has a very high win shares number because he didn't miss a lot of games and had a very long career; however Tim Duncan trumps him in win shares per 48 minutes.

[TDMVPDPOY]

players who only select certain games to play in that sheeds a WIN to stat pad their WIN SHARES... aka ginoboli and parker

[Wild Cobra Kai]

WS shows exactly what a poor copy of MJ that Kobe really is.

[racm]

Doesn't Kobe have sub .200 WS48?

[gee]

Thanks guys

[Kidd K]

Doesn't Kobe have sub .200 WS48?

Yeah, but it isn't like being .200 is bad. Jordan's career WS/48 is .250 (so is David Robinson's). .250 is superb, GOAT-esque WS/48.

Kobe's at a paltry .184. Duncan's is .214. LeBron's is .233 for now (no declined years watering it down yet)


And for more reference:

Bird: .203
Magic: .225
Kareem: .228 (despite half a dozen declined years watering it down)
Wilt: .248
Shaq: .208


And Pau Gasol each year as a Laker:

.239
.223
.220
.232
.165 (Kobe .132 same year)

[racm]

Lemme guess... Bynum led the Lakers in WS48 last season.

[Kidd K]

Lemme guess... Bynum led the Lakers in WS48 last season.

He did.

top 5 for LA last year:

Bynum: .183
Gasol: .163
Barnes: .142
Bryant: .132
Sessions: .131

[dunkman]

Koolaid Man is not gonna approve that stat tbh

[Kidd K]

Koolaid Man is not gonna approve that stat tbh

Luckily, nobody who matters gives a shit what his lame opinion is.