Speakers at DNC

[DarrinS]

Yikes

Keynote: Julian Castro

Joe Biden
Cory Booker
Bill Clinton
Charlie Crist
Rahm Emanuel
Sandra Fluke
Tim Kaine
Caroline Kennedy
Michelle Obama
Martin O'Malley
Elizabeth Warren

[DarrinS]

At least they have Bill

And the architect of the wildly popular "you didn't build that"

[Koolaid_Man]

At least they have Bill

And the architect of the wildly popular "you didn't build that"


Charlie should deliver us enough Florida votes to win the State :toast

[Koolaid_Man]

he should be effective enough top appeal to the elderly independents to help them see past republican lies, obstructionism, and flat out treason

[DMX7]

Yikes

Keynote: Julian Castro (one of them)

Joe Biden
Cory Booker
Bill Clinton
Charlie Crist
Rahm Emanuel
Sandra Fluke
Tim Kaine
Caroline Kennedy
Michelle Obama
Martin O'Malley
Elizabeth Warren

That's a pretty solid lineup tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

Groomin Castro for a senate run.

[djohn2oo8]

At least they have Bill

And the architect of the wildly popular "you didn't build that"

And no celebrity guest appearances bringing the awkwards.

[boutons_deux]

At least they have Bill

And the architect of the wildly popular "you didn't build that"

"you didn't build that"

How's that Fox Repug Propaganda Kool-Aid going down? substantial and nourishing? makes you smarter or dumber? :lol

[DarrinS]

Lol @ fake enthusiasm


I guess they have to let Biden speak? :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

Why do democrats always feel they have to let Caroline "You Know" Kennedy speak?

[SA210]

Yikes

Keynote: Julian Castro

Joe Biden
Cory Booker
Bill Clinton
Charlie Crist
Rahm Emanuel
Sandra Fluke
Tim Kaine
Caroline Kennedy
Michelle Obama
Martin O'Malley
Elizabeth Warren

Just looking at that lineup puts me to sleep. Who honestly doesn't already know the empty crap they are all going to say? Empty promises, lies, pandering, exaggerations and pretending to be tough and caring. But none will come to fruition because they lost their backbone long ago.

Sad they are using a Kennedy to speak just to try to give themselves some credibility when this fraud of a President has never been, is not, and never will be anything remotely close to what JFK or RFK ever was, not in his dreams. What an insult. But the crowd and morons across the nation will cheer as if he is, being fooled by words just like words fooled them 4 years ago. In the end we will just get more dead children in the world, more of a police state, more NDAA...and more of the right dictating what they want him to do and him following orders because he's a weak sellout piece of shit sissy excuse of a President.

The only one I'm interested in listening to is Julian Castro (which is only being used for the Latino vote), but seriously, they already told him what to say, so I don't even know why I'm looking forward to his speech. I guess I have hope that a young new guy will have some real honest ideas and care about doing something for this country, but who am I kidding? Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. He'll owe Obama for giving him the stage, so that can't end well in the long run. Hope I'm wrong on Julian. I root for him to be a good guy. We shall see.

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[DarrinS]

"The only one I'm interested in listening to is Julian Castro "

Same here, but only because he is local. Pretty tall order (keynote) for such a greenhorn.

[SA210]

"The only one I'm interested in listening to is Julian Castro "

Same here, but only because he is local. Pretty tall order (keynote) for such a greenhorn.

I actually think he'll do a great job and impress. But his words will be in support of Obama and that will be excruciating to listen to. But I know he's doing it to advance his own political career. Good for him, I guess.

[boutons_deux]

Obama turns to technology during convention

When the Democratic Party's national convention opens this week, President Barack Obama's target audience won't be in the crowd. It will be the small sliver of undecided voters in battleground states who will be critical to the outcome of what the polls show is a tight race with two months to go.

Obama's campaign will turn to technology to get some of those voters engaged in the convention. The campaign will stream the entire event online, incorporate voter comments into the feed, and have convention attendees interact electronically with those watching on the Internet and mobile devices.

It's an attempt to recapture the Obama team's insurgent, grassroots appeal from 2008, when the campaign set new standards for using technology in politics. The high-tech engagement also helps the campaign capture data on voters that can be used for registration drives and get out the vote efforts.

Targeting Hispanics, the convention will be streamed online simultaneously in Spanish. Obama is hoping his sizeable advantage over Republican rival Mitt Romney with Hispanics will help him win key battleground states in the West, as well as Florida and Virginia.

Republicans also streamed much of their convention on YouTube, though the feed was not interactive.

The move to online streaming comes as television networks cut back on their convention coverage. TV viewership was down during last week's Republican convention; about 30 million people watched Romney's acceptance speech, compared to 40 million who saw Sen. John McCain accept the GOP nomination in 2008.

Starting Tuesday, a parade of high-profile speakers will stand on a blue-carpeted stage in Charlotte's Time Warner Cable Arena to vouch for Obama's economic agenda, which his team says is focused on the middle class: ending tax cuts for the rich and reducing the debt, while spending more on education, energy and infrastructure.

Several voters — called "American Heroes" by Obama's team — also will speak at and appear in videos at the convention, putting a human face on Obama's program.

The Democratic National Convention starts less than a week after Republicans gathered in Tampa, Fla., to nominate Romney as the party's presidential candidate. Democrats hope that by holding their convention second, Obama can emerge with momentum on his side as the race for the White House bounds into its final stretch.

Obama will largely be responsible for generating that momentum. He will close the convention Thursday night with a speech in an outdoor football stadium, just as he did in 2008. Mindful of the comparisons to four years ago, Obama's campaign is scrambling to ensure that the 74,000-seat stadium is filled to capacity. The largest crowd Obama has drawn during the 2012 campaign is about 14,000 people, far less than the jaw-dropping crowds he attracted in the 2008 campaign.

Aides say Obama won't ignore the economic woes that have defined his four years in the White House. But they say he plans to focus largely on the future, and why he believes his policies will succeed in a second term.

Obama isn't expected to outline any new policy proposals. Instead, he plans to make the case for continuing what he has started. And he is expected to double down on agenda items, such as immigration and tax reforms, that gained little traction during his four years in office.

"When the convention is over, folks with be left with a clear road map of where he thinks America needs to go," said Stephanie Cutter, Obama's deputy campaign manager. "And it will be clear what his focus will be in an Obama second term."

Working against Obama: the nation's 8.3 percent unemployment rate, sluggish economic growth and fears the economy could slip back into a recession.

There's also a general malaise. An Associated Press-GfK poll conducted earlier this month showed 60 percent of registered voters say the country is heading in the wrong direction, while just 35 percent say it is heading in the right direction.

The convention opens Tuesday with first lady Michelle Obama, whose popularity far surpasses her husband's, as a featured speaker. San Antonio, Texas, Mayor Julian Castro also is slated for that night. He will be the first Hispanic to deliver the Democratic convention's keynote address. Their roles on the convention's opening night are part of Democrats' efforts to shore up support among women and Hispanics, two crucial voting blocs where Obama holds an advantage over Romney.

Mrs. Obama is expected to make the case that Obama is the best candidate to advocate on behalf of the middle class because he has experienced their struggles himself.

Many voters already have heard Mrs. Obama's stories about her husband being raised by a single mother and his grandparents or having struggled to pay off student loans.

But she is emphasizing them again in this campaign in hopes of drawing a contrast with Romney's privileged upbringing.

Polls show voters think Obama understands the economic issues that are important to them better than Romney, even though the Republican has an edge on who voters believe is better suited to manage the economy.

Former President Bill Clinton, who is emerging as one of the campaign's most effective surrogates, will headline the convention Wednesday and formally nominate Obama. He hopes to remind voters of the flush economy he presided over and make the case that Obama's policies will lead to similar results.

Vice President Joe Biden and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry will address the large stadium crowd Thursday night before Obama speaks.

Kerry, seen as a potential second-term secretary of state under Obama, will try to capitalize on the Democratic Party's rare advantage on national security issues. He is expected to trumpet Obama's decision to order the raid that killed Osama bin Laden and the president's plan to end the Afghanistan war, a sharp contrast to Republicans who rarely mentioned the war during their convention or the tens of thousands of troops still engaged in combat.

Obama's young daughters start school in Washington next week and are not expected to have a formal role at the gathering. But they could come to Charlotte Thursday night for their father's acceptance speech.

http://mobile.sfgate.com/sfchron/db_41685/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=3d1TJYeD&full=true#display

[Juggity]

:lol People who think that lineup is "boring" are people who already disagree with Obama.

Conventions aren't for appealing to the other side of the spectrum. They're for solidifying the base and occasionally for reaching out to independents.

By nature of the fact that there are no "mystery speakers" who turn out to be senile actors with unprepared speeches, this convention is already better than the Republican one.

[boutons_deux]

Ever wonder why the Repugs had NOBODY from dubya/dickhead's disastrous epoch speaking last week?

[SA210]

:lol People who think that lineup is "boring" are people who already disagree with Obama.



Maybe, but I don't see how that makes a point for you. A lot of people disagree with him for very valid reasons, his empty rhetoric is boring and tired. His weakness versus the Republicans is a disgrace. His bombing of innocent families is unforgivable. Maybe some people aren't fools and people already know what they are getting, including many voters in the party.

[SA210]

Ever wonder why the Repugs had NOBODY from dubya/dickhead's disastrous epoch speaking last week?

Because they suck too

[Bartleby]

The only one I'm interested in listening to is Julian Castro (which is only being used for the Latino vote), but seriously, they already told him what to say

Somebody should've told Clint what to say.

[DarrinS]

Somebody should've told Clint what to say.

Meh, Clint neither helped or hurt

Entertaining, if only for its weirdness

[boutons_deux]

"Clint neither helped or hurt"

Clint was supposed to help, and Gecko needs a LOT of help

Clint did hurt himself, at least to younger viewers, and he did hurt the convention by taking up time in the 1 hour of national broadcast coverage than could have been used MUCH better.

Sept. 1: Romney’s Convention Bounce Appears Middling So Far

The Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla. received mediocre television ratings — and the polling data so far suggests that it may produce only a modest bounce in the polls for Mitt Romney.

The most favorable number for Mr. Romney is from the Rasmussen Reports tracking poll. That survey showed him pulling into a 3-point lead against President Obama on Saturday. All of the interviews in the Rasmussen poll were conducted after the convention began, although only about one-third were conducted after Mr. Romney’s acceptance speech on Thursday night.

The Rasmussen poll represents a 5-point swing toward Mr. Romney from the polling firm’s final survey before the conventions, when it had Mr. Obama ahead by two points. But it does not read quite as strongly for him as compared to the long-term average of Rasmussen polls, which have had Mr. Romney ahead by about one percentage point on average over the past 60 days.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/sept-1-romneys-convention-bounce-appears-middling-so-far/?partner=rss&emc=rss

Rasmussen! :lol

When will they repeat their 2008 prediction a few weeks before the election that the Repug ticket would win in a landslide? :lol

[mercos]

Seems no better or worse than what the Republicans had to offer. I'll be interested to hear what Castro and Booker have to say as they are the future of the Democratic Party. I'm sure Clinton will give a good speech.

[Clipper Nation]

By nature of the fact that there are no "mystery speakers" who turn out to be senile actors with unprepared speeches, this convention is already better than the Republican one.
That's only because their senile guy with an unprepared speech is the Vice President, tbh.....

[Agloco]

Yikes

Keynote: Julian Castro

Joe Biden
Cory Booker
Bill Clinton
Charlie Crist
Rahm Emanuel
Sandra Fluke
Tim Kaine
Caroline Kennedy
Michelle Obama
Martin O'Malley
Elizabeth Warren

They should include an empty chair that "speaks to" a cardboard cutout of Romney. The voice of said chair should be that of Samuel Jackson.

[AFBlue]

I'll be interested to see the underlying theme across the DNC. It was clear the RNC goal was to "humanize" Romney and harp on Obama's failure while talking in generalities about their plan.

How much of the convention will focus on the president's successes? Future plan? The "other guy's" outdated ones?

[boutons_deux]

I'd love to see the Dems list each Repug convention lie and trash it.

[djohn2oo8]

I'll be interested to see the underlying theme across the DNC. It was clear the RNC goal was to "humanize" Romney and harp on Obama's failure while talking in generalities about their plan.

How much of the convention will focus on the president's successes? Future plan? The "other guy's" outdated ones?

Alot on successes and future plans while painting Republicans as backward obstructionists. Theme will be about the choice to go forward or backwards probably. Abortion will be brought up along with Ryan and Romney. Afghanistsn and how Romney wants to go to war with Iran.

[SA210]

CHARLOTTE, NC - SEPTEMBER 02: San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro (L) stands on stage at the podium with his brother Juan Castro during preparations for the Democratic National Convention at Time Warner Cable Arena on September 2, 2012 in Charlotte, North Carolina. The DNC that will start on September 4 and run through September 7, will nominate U.S. President Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

http://www.kens5.com/news/slideshows/PHOTOS-Castro-bros-prep-for-speech-at-DNC-in-Charlotte-168321126.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=/


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418826_10152082175750045_1777515974_n.jpg

[scott]

CHARLOTTE, NC - SEPTEMBER 02: San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro (L) stands on stage at the podium with his brother Juan Castro during preparations for the Democratic National Convention at Time Warner Cable Arena on September 2, 2012 in Charlotte, North Carolina. The DNC that will start on September 4 and run through September 7, will nominate U.S. President Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

http://www.kens5.com/news/slideshows/PHOTOS-Castro-bros-prep-for-speech-at-DNC-in-Charlotte-168321126.html?gallery=y&c=y&ref=/


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418826_10152082175750045_1777515974_n.jpg

Does Joaquin go by Juan now, or was there a triplet we never knew about?

I'd understand if it was a national outlet who made this mistake (I assume it is... never heard Joaquin go by Juan)... but KENS5?!?!?

[Spurminator]

I am going to watch exactly the same amount of this convention as I did the RNC.

[baseline bum]

I am going to watch exactly the same amount of this convention as I did the RNC.

Me too... e.g., I'll catch the most embarrassing speech on youtube later on.

[CosmicCowboy]

Groomin Castro for a senate run.

:lmao @ Julian Castro winning a senate race in Texas.

[ElNono]

According to Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Democratic_National_Convention#Speakers), the list is a bit larger...

Tuesday, September 4 - Michelle Obama and Julián Castro

The speakers for the day include:

Independent Governor Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island
Former President Jimmy Carter via video
First Lady Michelle Obama
Julian Castro, mayor of San Antonio.

Wednesday, September 5 - Elizabeth Warren and Bill Clinton

The speakers for the day include:

Democratic Senate candidate for Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren
Former President Bill Clinton

Thursday, September 6 - Joe Biden and Barack Obama

The speakers for the day include:

U.S. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts
Vice President Joe Biden
President Barack Obama

Other scheduled speakers include:

Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin
Newark Mayor Cory Booker
Former Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida, an ex-Republican who endorsed President Obama's re-election bid, has been given a speaking spot.
Former Assistant Secretary, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Tammy Duckworth
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel
Georgetown Law School Graduate Sandra Fluke
Charlotte Mayor Anthony Foxx
Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm
California Attorney General Kamala Harris
Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper
Montana State Superintendent of Public Instruction Denise Juneau
Former Virginia Governor Tim Kaine
President of NARAL Pro-Choice America Nancy Keenan
Author and daughter of former President Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy
Lieutenant General Claudia Kennedy (ret.)
Women’s rights activist Lilly Ledbetter
Congresswoman Barbara Lee of California
CarMax co-founder and former CEO Austin Ligon
Obama Campaign Co-Chair Eva Longoria
Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy
Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter
U.S. Senator Barbara Mikulski of Maryland, together with the Democratic women of the U.S. Senate
Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley
Houston Mayor Annise Parker
Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick
President of Planned Parenthood Action Fund Cecile Richards
Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak
Journalist Cristina Saralegui
Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer
Costco co-founder and former CEO Jim Sinegal
Former Ohio Governor Ted Strickland
Los Angeles Mayor, Democratic Convention Chair Antonio Villaraigosa

[boutons_deux]

Biden Still Waiting To Be Told Where Convention Is

Vice President Joe Biden said today that he “can’t wait” to deliver his speech at the 2012 Democratic Convention, but that he still has not been told where the gathering will take place.

“I guess I could Google it,” he said, “but my Internet stopped working a few weeks ago, and I’ve had a heck of a time getting it fixed.”

Mr. Biden said he expects someone to tell him the details about the convention “any day now,” but, in the meantime, he is working on his Convention speech, which he guarantees “is going to blow people away.”

“I was all set to read from a prepared text, but then Clint Eastwood’s thing really raised the bar,” he said. “I’m seeing this Convention as a chance to showcase my amazing improv chops.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/09/biden-still-waiting-to-be-told-where-convention-is.html#ixzz25N58ItNw

[howbouthemspurs]

I like Castro! Hes dreamy!

[baseline bum]

:lmao @ Julian Castro winning a senate race in Texas.

Obama's gonna open the border in his second term and all of a sudden the crackers gonna be the minority in Texas, RT.

[ElNono]

Obama's gonna open the border in his second term and all of a sudden the crackers gonna be the minority in Texas, RT.

I thought he already did, tbh...

[z0sa]

I expected a Mexican-heritage Hispanic to make it tbh, considering Obama leads the League in Deportations.

[MannyIsGod]

I am going to watch exactly the same amount of this convention as I did the RNC.

Exactly.

[SnakeBoy]

Obama's gonna open the border in his second term and all of a sudden the crackers gonna be the minority in Texas, RT.

Nah, we have plenty of dead white people who will cancel out their votes.

[baseline bum]

I thought he already did, tbh...

True, but he's gonna charter Greyhound buses into Matamoros, Juarez, Buenos Aires, Mexicali, Tijuana, etc to bring in more.

[Wild Cobra]

I am going to watch exactly the same amount of this convention as I did the RNC.
Do people actually sit and watch these things?

[elbamba]

Groomin Castro for a senate run.

Only if he moves to another state. Republicans will carry the senate in Texas for a long time.

[elbamba]

:lol People who think that lineup is "boring" are people who already disagree with Obama.

Conventions aren't for appealing to the other side of the spectrum. They're for solidifying the base and occasionally for reaching out to independents.

By nature of the fact that there are no "mystery speakers" who turn out to be senile actors with unprepared speeches, this convention is already better than the Republican one.

Not true. I will be watching the entire convention. I watch them every four years and I decided not to vote republican because of the convention 4 years ago.

Republicans rolled out some interesting governors and young leaders who I thought gave pretty good speeches. I was suprised by Suzana Martinez, Sandoval, Mia Love, Ted Cruz, Rice. I enjoyed Rubio and Romeny as well as the govenor of Puerto Rico.

I see only two speakers that spark my interest in Booker and Castro right now. I admit, there are many speakers that I am not familar with. I certainly did not know much of Martinez and Sandoval until last week.

[boutons_deux]

judging speakers by the ghost-written, heavily scripted speeches in a heavily hedged, managed nominating convention is useless compared to what they've actually done and said, their polices. eg, Ted Cruz is an exceptionally scaray tea bagger. TX and the South are extremely well blessed with tea bagger, nutcase assholes, who appeal to the blessed abundance of tea bagger, ignorant, nutcase asshole voters.

[Hook Dem]

judging speakers by the ghost-written, heavily scripted speeches in a heavily hedged, managed nominating convention is useless compared to what they've actually done and said, their polices. eg, Ted Cruz is an exceptionally scaray tea bagger. TX and the South are extremely well blessed with tea bagger, nutcase assholes, who appeal to the blessed abundance of tea bagger, ignorant, nutcase asshole voters.

Boutons has spoken..."the original asshole"! lol

[LnGrrrR]

Biden Still Waiting To Be Told Where Convention Is

Vice President Joe Biden said today that he “can’t wait” to deliver his speech at the 2012 Democratic Convention, but that he still has not been told where the gathering will take place.

“I guess I could Google it,” he said, “but my Internet stopped working a few weeks ago, and I’ve had a heck of a time getting it fixed.”

Mr. Biden said he expects someone to tell him the details about the convention “any day now,” but, in the meantime, he is working on his Convention speech, which he guarantees “is going to blow people away.”

“I was all set to read from a prepared text, but then Clint Eastwood’s thing really raised the bar,” he said. “I’m seeing this Convention as a chance to showcase my amazing improv chops.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/09/biden-still-waiting-to-be-told-where-convention-is.html#ixzz25N58ItNw

:lol:toast

[djohn2oo8]

Loved the tribute to Ted Kennedy where it showed Romney in the video supporting abortion:lol

[scott]

I'll be watching our Mayor just because he's our mayor.

Then I'll rely on Comedy Central for the rest of my coverage :lol

[fraga]

Kal Penn > Clint Eastwood

[DMX7]

Kal Penn brought the goods.

Lilly... All "men" are created equal -- sorry. :(

[baseline bum]

LOL people actually watch this stupid shit?

[howbouthemspurs]

Castro 2020!

[Pelicans78]

Attending the Republican Convention must be similar to attending a Utah Jazz game.

[DarrinS]

Loved the tribute to Ted Kennedy where it showed Romney in the video supporting abortion:lol

Paying tribute to Ted when there's a "war on women" -- the irony

[Clipper Nation]

Attending the Republican Convention must be similar to attending a Utah Jazz game.

With the cheating that went on this year, it's more like a 2002 Lakers/Kings game, tbh....

[SA210]

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[SA210]

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[Drachen]

I just have to ask, who was that supermodel sitting to the right of his family in the brown dress? LOL

Edit, I was trying to find a time in the video posted above, but they didn't show her. They kept showing her on CNN.

[Th'Pusher]

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I just want to know what search term a paulbot had to put into google to come up with that current tv clip.

Julian did well. Michelle did better.

[SA210]

I just have to ask, who was that supermodel sitting to the right of his family in the brown dress? LOL

Edit, I was trying to find a time in the video posted above, but they didn't show her. They kept showing her on CNN.

Not sure of you're talking about Joaquin Castro's girlfriend?

Anna Flores, she's a hottie :tu

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/09/05/Style/Images/joaquincastro--228x304--228x304.jpg?uuid=MrdDqvbuEeGLk8T0qxyNEw

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/263759_179372872123901_2289231_n.jpg

[Jacob1983]

Those people on Current make it sound like the speech was orgasmic for them. Typical koolaid drinkers. On FOX News, they jizz for Romney and the cheesehead. On Current and MSNBC, they have a lovefest for Barry and his woman.

[elbamba]

I thought Castro's talk was good. It was pretty much Rubio 2.0. They shared similar stories about their parents and grandparents, coming from nothing, working hard so they could someday speak from the microphone.

[DarrinS]

I thought Castro's talk was good. It was pretty much Rubio 2.0. They shared similar stories about their parents and grandparents, coming from nothing, working hard so they could someday speak from the microphone.



She was born in San Antonio in 1947 to an immigrant mother who didn’t get past fourth grade; she didn’t meet her father till she was 34. To Rosie, the Alamo is a symbol of bad times. “They used to take us there when we were schoolchildren,” she told me. “They told us how glorious that battle was. When I grew up I learned that the ‘heroes’ of the Alamo were a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them. But as a little girl I got the message — we were losers. I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”



Dude's mom said this and he's on his 2nd term as mayor of S.A.?

Now THAT is a skilled politician.

[Drachen]

Not sure of you're talking about Joaquin Castro's girlfriend?

Anna Flores, she's a hottie :tu



That's the one, she looked better on TV, but she is still very attractive.

[Yonivore]

Dude's mom said this and he's on his 2nd term as mayor of S.A.?

Now THAT is a skilled politician.
You don't have to be a skilled politician to have someone in your family believe that and win in San Antonio. There's probably a pretty good percentage of the population that agrees.

[RandomGuy]

The only one I'm interested in listening to is Julian Castro (which is only being used for the Latino vote), but seriously, they already told him what to say, so I don't even know why I'm looking forward to his speech.

Bla bla bla, cynical bullshit bla, bla bla bla, uninformed bla, bla bla bla, RON PAUL WHOO bla bla bla.

:sleep


Yer boring me. Find a new schtick.

[RandomGuy]

Dude's mom said this and he's on his 2nd term as mayor of S.A.?

Now THAT is a skilled politician.

Dur, that is the obvious explanation.

I couldn't possibly be because the people of San Antonio care a bit more about what he does as mayor and the results, than what his mother thinks or experienced growing up.

Leave it to you to bring the fucktard partisan bullshit, all the time, any time.

[RandomGuy]

You don't have to be a skilled politician to have someone in your family believe that and win in San Antonio. There's probably a pretty good percentage of the population that agrees.

That is a remarkably good point.

Wonder why that might be?

[CosmicCowboy]

Dur, that is the obvious explanation.

I couldn't possibly be because the people of San Antonio care a bit more about what he does as mayor and the results, than what his mother thinks or experienced growing up.

Leave it to you to bring the fucktard partisan bullshit, all the time, any time.

Actually, Castro is the one that just made the partisan declaration.

A lot of moderates like me didn't like it either, and I voted for him last time.

Fuck him and his pre-K tax hike self promoting political bullshit. I'm voting against that shit and probably against him next time around.

[RandomGuy]

http://shapleigh.org/system/news_article/photo1/3767/thumb/mlk1.jpg?1261102179

[RandomGuy]

Actually, Castro is the one that just made the partisan declaration.

A lot of moderates like me didn't like it either, and I voted for him last time.

Fuck him and his pre-K tax hike self promoting political bullshit. I'm voting against that shit and probably against him next time around.

Yes, pre-K for kids is partisan. :rolleyes

It is the height of extremism to think that it might be a good thing to invest in educating and caring for children.

[TeyshaBlue]

Yes, pre-K for kids is partisan. :rolleyes

It is the height of extremism to think that it might be a good thing to invest in educating and caring for children.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/DaveBowman.jpg

[DarrinS]

http://shapleigh.org/system/news_article/photo1/3767/thumb/mlk1.jpg?1261102179

the fuck?

[CosmicCowboy]

Yes, pre-K for kids is partisan. :rolleyes

It is the height of extremism to think that it might be a good thing to invest in educating and caring for children.

I am absolutely FOR pre-K education.

I am absolutely AGAINST it being done by the fucking City of San Antonio when we already have educational bureaucracies and funding mechanisms in place to provide the same service.

GFY

[TeyshaBlue]

Didn't we hash this out in another thread?

[MannyIsGod]

Dude's mom said this and he's on his 2nd term as mayor of S.A.?

Now THAT is a skilled politician.

Well I didn't know that but I just got a lot of Respect for Rosie Castro. I feel the exact same way about that place.

[RandomGuy]

Meh, read into it and all it is seems to be more blame the victim, goverment is always bad, taxes suck, propaganda group think.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/2-N-Side-officeholders-oppose-pre-K-proposal-3766860.php

Par for the course from the right in this country.

You don't have any solutions, other than simply to worship the magic god of the free market harder in the hopes that something will fall from the sky and fix all of our problems.



“Availability is less the problem than is parental failure to take advantage of existing programs and to get their children to the schools and agencies offering the programs,” they wrote.

[coyotes_geek]

Didn't we hash this out in another thread?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201988

[RandomGuy]

Didn't we hash this out in another thread?

I dunno I stopped paying attention. Reading the steady stream of conservative bullshit is like subjecting oneself to a bukkake of stupid, not unlike reading 9-11 conspiracy websites.

[MannyIsGod]

RG i can understand the frustration but you're pretty in the wrong here.

[TeyshaBlue]

I dunno I stopped paying attention. I can't be bothered to keep an open mind.

[Winehole23]

motivated reasoners tune out anything they think they *might* disagree with. pity tho. that was a pretty good thread, I thought.

[MannyIsGod]

TB thats unfair as shit too. You're going to tell me that you view butons posts with an open mind? HA!

[TeyshaBlue]

motivated reasoners tune out anything they think they *might* disagree with. pity tho. that was a pretty good thread, I thought.

Aopparently it falls into the bukkake of stupid category. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[TeyshaBlue]

TB thats unfair as shit too. You're going to tell me that you view butons posts with an open mind? HA!

Actually, if you bother to look, bouton's and I agree on a good many things.

[Drachen]

http://shapleigh.org/system/news_article/photo1/3767/thumb/mlk1.jpg?1261102179

I don't what you are doing with this either



Yes, pre-K for kids is partisan. :rolleyes

It is the height of extremism to think that it might be a good thing to invest in educating and caring for children.

I don't think that he is against pre-k for kids, I think he is against the funding/operational mechanism. I am too. Though I can't say that I would make the claim that it is a partisan thing to try to use city government to fill in the blanks where the state is not living up to its obligations. In fact there is a very very very public example of the Republicans doing the same type of thing over in that land called AZ. I feel like Castro is doing an otherwise fine job, so I won't vote against him next time due to one issue, but that is just me.

[MannyIsGod]

Aopparently it falls into the bukkake of stupid category. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

RG engaged some of the worst people to engage on this board for far too long and took it seriously. I'm not surprised that he's fed up and I think his comments and frustrations are correct. There are many many many posters here who are pretty much doing nothing but pelting others with bullshit over and over and over again. Thats not to say thats all the posters of any specific leaning here (I feel the idiots comprise both sides) but I do feel the idiots outweight those who display objectivity.

[MannyIsGod]

Actually, if you bother to look, bouton's and I agree on a good many things.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

This was good.

[RandomGuy]

RG i can understand the frustration but you're pretty in the wrong here.

ok, tell me why.

All I have really seen so far is the typical knee-jerk reaction that dismisses out of hand any possibility that the costs are more than outweighed by the benefits.

[DarrinS]

Well I didn't know that but I just got a lot of Respect for Rosie Castro. I feel the exact same way about that place.

Why?

[DarrinS]

I dunno I stopped paying attention. Reading the steady stream of conservative bullshit is like subjecting oneself to a bukkake of stupid, not unlike reading 9-11 conspiracy websites.

When all else fails...drop a race bomb or compare people to 9/11 nutters. Nice.

[leemajors]

Why?

:bang

[MannyIsGod]

ok, tell me why.

All I have really seen so far is the typical knee-jerk reaction that dismisses out of hand any possibility that the costs are more than outweighed by the benefits.

Because its been discussed in another thread and thats not whats going on at all. Its not like SA has a history of being some well run education mecca.

[MannyIsGod]

:bang

Tied in nicely with my previous point though.

[RandomGuy]

Originally Posted by Rosie Castro

She was born in San Antonio in 1947 to an immigrant mother who didn’t get past fourth grade; she didn’t meet her father till she was 34. To Rosie, the Alamo is a symbol of bad times. “They used to take us there when we were schoolchildren,” she told me. “They told us how glorious that battle was. When I grew up I learned that the ‘heroes’ of the Alamo were a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them. But as a little girl I got the message — we were losers. I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

Dude's mom said this and he's on his 2nd term as mayor of S.A.?

Now THAT is a skilled politician.



You don't have to be a skilled politician to have someone in your family believe that and win in San Antonio. There's probably a pretty good percentage of the population that agrees.




http://shapleigh.org/system/news_article/photo1/3767/thumb/mlk1.jpg?1261102179

SMH at the usual suspect's inability to see past their own viewpoints and understand why anybody might have the gall to think about historical events differently than the mindless aping of what they were told about them in movies as kids.

I couldn't find the picture showing the "brown/black/white" water fountain that hispanics and mexicans were subjected to by white Texans.


Better?

[TeyshaBlue]

RG engaged some of the worst people to engage on this board for far too long and took it seriously. I'm not surprised that he's fed up and I think his comments and frustrations are correct. There are many many many posters here who are pretty much doing nothing but pelting others with bullshit over and over and over again. Thats not to say thats all the posters of any specific leaning here (I feel the idiots comprise both sides) but I do feel the idiots outweight those who display objectivity.

I can agree with that.:toast

[Drachen]

ok, tell me why.

All I have really seen so far is the typical knee-jerk reaction that dismisses out of hand any possibility that the costs are more than outweighed by the benefits.

If I remember correctly, CC supported the ends (more kids in pre-k), but wanted it to go through existing channels (the districts who already have the infrastructure) and existing funding channels (increased property taxes).

I don't know if this was CC or someone else, but I think they wanted it to include all pre-k age kids (rather than those who should already be being served by the state like castro's bill).

I pretty much agree with all of the above.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

This was good.

Single Payer, Renewable Energy, Coffee (It counts! :lol) for starters.

[RandomGuy]

I don't what you are doing with this either

I don't think that he is against pre-k for kids, I think he is against the funding/operational mechanism. I am too. Though I can't say that I would make the claim that it is a partisan thing to try to use city government to fill in the blanks where the state is not living up to its obligations. In fact there is a very very very public example of the Republicans doing the same type of thing over in that land called AZ. I feel like Castro is doing an otherwise fine job, so I won't vote against him next time due to one issue, but that is just me.

The funding mechanism is a 1/8 penny tax increase, generally paid for by people who would most benefit from it in the first place.

Again, not sure what I missed.

I will read further in the other thread, as I have a feeling there is more, based on what Manny said.

[TeyshaBlue]

If I remember correctly, CC supported the ends (more kids in pre-k), but wanted it to go through existing channels (the districts who already have the infrastructure) and existing funding channels (increased property taxes).

I don't know if this was CC or someone else, but I think they wanted it to include all pre-k age kids (rather than those who should already be being served by the state like castro's bill).

I pretty much agree with all of the above.

In.

[MannyIsGod]

I can agree with that.:toast

Darrin, Poptech, WC, and Yoni broke RG. Oh and that one Paulbot whom I can't think of right now.

Even as much as I just post to fuck with WC he still got under my skin at times. Darrin too. Best approach, IMO, is just not to enage them for the most part. I think that's RG's new plan but he's a bit bitter apparently. :lol

[ploto]

I thought the most compelling line of Castro's speech was that the American Dream is not a sprint or even a marathon, but a relay. This line resonated wth me. Even though the focus is often on Hispanics, and to some extent Asians, there are also plenty of Americans with roots in Central and Eastern Europe who have not been in this country that long either. My dad was only a second generation American and my grandparents did not graduate from high school. It was important to them for my dad to get an education and he graduated from college. Now, he has 3 kids with Master's Degrees and of the grandchildren, 1 has a Masters and 4 are in graduate school right now.

I also very much appreciated Michelle Oabma saying that success is not about how much money you make. I am pretty tired of hearing the Republican party frame success in that way, and I thought she did a good job of countering that notion.

[Drachen]

SMH at the usual suspect's inability to see past their own viewpoints and understand why anybody might have the gall to think about historical events differently than the mindless aping of what they were told about them in movies as kids.

I couldn't find the picture showing the "brown/black/white" water fountain that hispanics and mexicans were subjected to by white Texans.


Better?
dp

[Drachen]

SMH at the usual suspect's inability to see past their own viewpoints and understand why anybody might have the gall to think about historical events differently than the mindless aping of what they were told about them in movies as kids.

I couldn't find the picture showing the "brown/black/white" water fountain that hispanics and mexicans were subjected to by white Texans.


Better?

Thanks, a little slow on the uptake this morning

[MannyIsGod]

I thought the most compelling line of Castro's speech was that the American Dream is not a sprint or even a marathon, but a relay. This line resonated wth me. Even though the focus is often on Hispanics, and to some extent Asians, there are also plenty of Americans with roots in Central and Eastern Europe who have not been in this country that long either. My dad was only a second generation American and my grandparents did not graduate from high school. It was important to them for my dad to get an education and he graduated from college. Now, he has 3 kids with Master's Degrees and of the grandchildren, 1 has a Masters and 4 are in graduate school right now.

I also very much appreciated Michelle Oabma saying that success is not about how much money you make. I am pretty tired of hearing the Republican party frame success in that way, and I thought she did a good job of countering that notion.

I did not watch the speeches but I definitely like these two ideas you highlighted.

[DarrinS]

I couldn't find the picture showing the "brown/black/white" water fountain that hispanics and mexicans were subjected to by white Texans.


Good luck with that.

[ploto]

The funding mechanism is a 1/8 penny tax increase, generally paid for by people who would most benefit from it in the first place.

Not that I fully agree with the pre-K program and the city being involved in it, but considering people were happy to pay the same tax so millionaires could get a publicly paid-for AlamoDome, I am not too upset about it.

[Drachen]

The funding mechanism is a 1/8 penny tax increase, generally paid for by people who would most benefit from it in the first place.

Again, not sure what I missed.

I will read further in the other thread, as I have a feeling there is more, based on what Manny said.

so as not to hijack, this will be my last post on the subject (considering there is a thread about it), but it wasn't about the money, but about efficiency. Why create a whole new city buracracy (call it the San Antonio Dept. of education) when such infrastructure already exists on the district level? Also why fire a city bullet (sales tax increase) when the aforementioned districts have their own funding mechanism (property tax increase)? This is especially poigniant when you take into account that after this 1/8 cent increase is the last increase that the city can make (they would hit the max sales tax of 8.25%, leaving the city with no more flexibility).

[RandomGuy]

When all else fails...drop a race bomb or compare people to 9/11 nutters. Nice.

You can dish it but can't take it? :cry

Sorry, if you don't like the comparison, quit acting and thinking like them.

[RandomGuy]

Don't confuse having an open mind with having patience for judgmental bullshit, or general stupidity.

Open mind I have, patience, not so much.

[Drachen]

Don't confuse having an open mind with having patience for judgmental bullshit, or general stupidity.

Open mind I have, patience, not so much.

Well not anymore. :lol

I will say that I have been pretty impressed by your patience and the fact that you took certain posters seriously. I think that you deserve a bit of respite.

[TeyshaBlue]

Well not anymore. :lol

I will say that I have been pretty impressed by your patience and the fact that you took certain posters seriously. I think that you deserve a bit of respite.

gfy

[Yonivore]

SMH at the usual suspect's inability to see past their own viewpoints and understand why anybody might have the gall to think about historical events differently than the mindless aping of what they were told about them in movies as kids.

I couldn't find the picture showing the "brown/black/white" water fountain that hispanics and mexicans were subjected to by white Texans.


Better?
If Texas had lost the war, the Castros would be battlling drug cartels and a corrupt government that is allowing the vast natural resources of Mexico to be squandered while the population lives in squalid conditions. Perhaps, of course, the Castros would be part of the corrupt government -- they're a talented lot.

[Drachen]

gfy

Cant really do that at work, but thanks for the suggestion.

[TeyshaBlue]

Cant really do that at work, but thanks for the suggestion.

I'm a giver.

[Wild Cobra]

Darrin, Poptech, WC, and Yoni broke RG. Oh and that one Paulbot whom I can't think of right now.

Even as much as I just post to fuck with WC he still got under my skin at times. Darrin too. Best approach, IMO, is just not to enage them for the most part. I think that's RG's new plan but he's a bit bitter apparently. :lol
Is that what you call your inability to answer my questions about your accusations (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6084610&postcount=1230)?

[MannyIsGod]

Is that what you call your inability to answer my questions about your accusations (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6084610&postcount=1230)?

I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the loud noise you were making while stalking women on the internet.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the loud noise you were making while stalking women on the internet.
No, you are simply an idiot. You accuse me of an assumption I make, but it was your assumption that assumed I made an assumption, and you aren't man enough to explain in my question in that thread regarding it.

Did you have a revelation that all along, you were wrong maybe?

[TeyshaBlue]

There is so much wrong with that post. It just hurts.

[leemajors]

It's just hard to imagine which question he actually wants Manny to actually answer while he is answering.

[Wild Cobra]

It's just hard to imagine which question he actually wants Manny to actually answer while he is answering.
This discussion can end in this thread and continue in the one I linked. The answer to your questions are there. I'll bet Butthurt Manny will not answer me there though. I kicked his ass too much in that thread.

[TeyshaBlue]

It's just hard to imagine which question he actually wants Manny to actually answer while he is answering.

Actually, the assumption line is sig-worthy.:lol

[SA210]

Bla bla bla, cynical bullshit bla, bla bla bla, uninformed bla, bla bla bla, RON PAUL WHOO bla bla bla.

:sleep


Yer boring me. Find a new schtick.

You actually said nothing here. Not surprising. lol at blind morons

[Venti Quattro]

:rollin :rollin :rollin Bill Clinton

[Jacob1983]

Shouldn't Obama be worried that he had to beg Bill Clinton save his ass at the convention? Doesn't that make him look weak to possible voters or is the koolaid too strong?

[Fabbs]

If not for term limits any doubt Billy Clinton would have pushed Repugnatin ish in for the 3rd election in a row and ran off 12 straight years of suplus?

[Venti Quattro]

Clinton just killed it.

[Jacob1983]

Odds that Clinton called Obama "son" or "boy" tonight?

[Venti Quattro]

Odds that Clinton called Obama "son" or "boy" tonight?

In the speech? Didn't remember an instance.

[Koolaid_Man]

Clinton just killed it.


I love the Obama's with all my heart...Obama embodies everything I wish I could be...so PRESIDENTIAL, such grace such class..Michelle said it best when she said: "Being president doesn't change who you are but rather reveals you are.

Billy Clint Clint was masterful tonight...he's a folksy orator that even hillbillies can admire.

4 more years yawl...Obama / Biden 2012...

[Bill_Brasky]

Clinton just killed it.

Dude is just so fuckin badass...

[Jacob1983]

I meant in private. Bill Clinton is more likeable than Obama because Clinton was able to compromise and was not really a liberal or a hardcore liberal. Clinton was a centrist. Things were great when Clinton was president. Since he left the White House, America has gone down the crapper.

[Wild Cobra]

If not for term limits any doubt Billy Clinton would have pushed Repugnatin ish in for the 3rd election in a row and ran off 12 straight years of suplus?
Again, the surplus was only on paper. He always had a deficit, else the debt would have decreased.

If I do my monthly house budget, and always plan for a surplus, but then buy other items that exceeded the surplus after I made my budget plans.... is that a surplus...

[Wild Cobra]

I meant in private. Bill Clinton is more likeable than Obama because Clinton was able to compromise and was not really a liberal or a hardcore liberal. Clinton was a centrist. Things were great when Clinton was president. Since he left the White House, America has gone down the crapper.
Clinton is the best used car salesman in the world.

[Jacob1983]

Pretty much. Best president of my lifetime. I agree with crazy Jessie Ventura. I'd rather have a thousand Monica Lewinskies than one 9/11.

[Wild Cobra]

Pretty much. Best president of my lifetime. I agree with crazy Jessie Ventura. I'd rather have a thousand Monica Lewinskies than one 9/11.
I think we can all agree there.

[jack sommerset]

Wednesday, September 05, 2012

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 45% of the vote. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided."

God bless

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Rasmussen
:lol Thinking the GOP's pet pollsters are a valid source

[Clipper Nation]

Pretty much. Best president of my lifetime. I agree with crazy Jessie Ventura. I'd rather have a thousand Monica Lewinskies than one 9/11.

Please, Clinton wasn't that much better than Dubya or Obama.... same warmongering in the Middle East, same ignorance of the Constitution.... the economy looked better on paper, but fiat money is always a joke and the Fed simply hadn't pushed us into the bust part of the cycle yet, tbh....

That being said, I can't deny that he was FAR more likeable than the two people that came after him.... a President with Bill Clinton's speaking ability and charisma, and Ron Paul's principles, sound money, non-interventionism, and adherence to the Constitution would be a lock for best POTUS ever, tbh....

[boutons_deux]

Wednesday, September 05, 2012

"The Rasmussen Reports"

:lol

Since when does popular vote count? It didn't count in 2000! :lol


http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/


Can Repug suppression of Dem voters and Rove's $Bs save the crashing Gecko/Ryan sociopathic greed fest?

[Clipper Nation]

The popular vote only counts partly, otherwise, we'd be subject to the tyranny of the majority, no matter how small the margin is, tbh.....

[DarrinS]

I love the Obama's with all my heart...Obama embodies everything I wish I could be...so PRESIDENTIAL, such grace such class..


Chris Matthews? That you?

[Venti Quattro]

Pretty much. Best president of my lifetime. I agree with crazy Jessie Ventura. I'd rather have a thousand Monica Lewinskies than one 9/11.

lmao if you want a 9/11 then you're a retard.

[TeyshaBlue]

Wednesday, September 05, 2012

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 45% of the vote. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided."

God bless

Please do yourself a favor. Delete the Rasmussen Poll link you are using.

The Rasmussen poll is complete and utter crap.

[Yonivore]

Looks like it's going to be Oscar night at the Convention tonight.

[djohn2oo8]

Looks like it's going to be Oscar night at the Convention tonight.

Were there any Romney chants at all last week? :lol Det butthurt.

[elbamba]

Were there any Romney chants at all last week? :lol Det butthurt.

I believe they usually shout "Mitt". Yes. There were lots of them, although sometimes I wonder if people even listen to the speaker before they begin to cheer. I think R/D wait for key words like smaller government or heath care and then just begin to cheer.

[SA210]

I love the Obama's with all my heart...Obama embodies everything I wish I could be...so PRESIDENTIAL, such grace such class..

:lmao:rollin

[Clipper Nation]

Were there any Romney chants at all last week? :lol Det butthurt.

No.... plenty of "PRESIDENT PAUL" and "LET RON SPEAK" chants though....

[Yonivore]

No.... plenty of "PRESIDENT PAUL" and "LET RON SPEAK" chants though....
The Libertarians should have their own convention and quit invading the Republicans.

[coyotes_geek]

The Libertarians should have their own convention and quit invading the Republicans.

Sounds good. Now just get republicans to stop telling libertarians how important it is for them to vote for red team anytime it looks like an election is going to be close and we can all go on about our merry way.

[SA210]

Mayor Julian Castro's name really getting out there..


rPZbQ8Gew9k


It didn't take long for the Twitter-sphere to decide that San Antonio Mayor Julián Castro (http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/julian-castro/about/), the keynote at Tuesday night's Democratic National Convention, had a look-alike other than his identical twin: comedian Jimmy Fallon. Fallon was more than happy to play along.

http://www.kens5.com/entertainment/Jimmy-Fallon-spoofs-Julian-Castros-DNC-keynote-168787346.html

[Clipper Nation]

The Libertarians should have their own convention and quit invading the Republicans.

Nah, maybe the neocons should leave the party THEY co-opted in the first place and let actual conservative Republicans have their party back, tbh....

[TeyshaBlue]

Mayor Julian Castro's name really getting out there..


rPZbQ8Gew9k



http://www.kens5.com/entertainment/Jimmy-Fallon-spoofs-Julian-Castros-DNC-keynote-168787346.html

Holy Crap!:lmao

[coyotes_geek]

I don't know why this made me laugh, but it did. :lol


Romney, Ryan Sneak Into DNC While Posing As Caterers

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/17/17929/original/600.jpg?5809

http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-ryan-sneak-into-dnc-while-posing-as-caterer,29443/?ref=auto

[Yonivore]

Sounds good.
Glad we agree.


Now just get republicans to stop telling libertarians how important it is for them to vote for red team anytime it looks like an election is going to be close and we can all go on about our merry way.
Why? Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and all parties and political ideologies are in the business of persuasion. If the Republicans can convince enough Libertarians to vote for the Republican candidate, good for them.

I don't understand the position that seems to say Libertarians are incapable of deciding for themselves for whom they will vote.

[Clipper Nation]

Libertarians DO know who they're voting for.... it's gullible, easily-swayed neocon sheeple such as yourself who don't have a clue, tbh.... if Team Red was so great, you wouldn't need to make up bullshit strategies in a failed effort to get us to support your guy, because we'd already be voting for them.....

[LnGrrrR]

The Libertarians should have their own convention and quit invading the Republicans.

Kinda shows what the Republican party is about now

[ploto]

Clinton was a rock star. All those women looking at him like they would be glad to give him a "Monica" under the podium. Someone I know who is as fundamentalist right-wing Christian as you can get could not quit saying how sexy he is.

He is just so intelligent- something I like in my leaders. So much of his speech was not even from the prepared text. One of the best lines of the night was not in his written speech- "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did."

[Yonivore]

Kinda shows what the Republican party is about now
What? Republican?

[ploto]

Gabby Gifford- how inspiring

:cry

[DMX7]

John Kerry brought the fuckin' goods. He would have been a much greater President than GWB.

[djohn2oo8]

Kerry just bullied the fuck out of Romney.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Charlie Crist gave the GOP a dirtnap with his speech. Well done.

[Edward]

Pandering to Jews about Israel, jerking Ronald Reagan off, whoring any relative you have in the military, repeatedly mentioning how you're a simpleton who teaches at community college, and boasting about how you're tough on terrorism.

I thought the RNC was over.

[DMC]

John Kerry brought the fuckin' goods. He would have been a much greater President than GWB.
He could have ended up with 40 purple hearts with the possible thorn injuries from the White House Lawn.

[DMX7]

He could have ended up with 40 purple hearts with the possible thorn injuries from the White House Lawn.

Great man.

[DMC]

lol a bunch of nobody commoners going at it like either party gives a fuck about them after the election, like they aren't both on a downward spiral that ends in all the resources in just a few people's pockets, like they are spokesmen and their "team" is important. lol

[jack sommerset]

Obama is up. It's really hard listening him but I'm trying. God bless

[Edward]

Obama is up. It's really hard listening him but I'm trying. God bless
Find the strength, brother. God bless

[jack sommerset]

Find the strength, brother. God bless

I have the strength but the stomach isn't doing so well, brother. I'll make it. God bless

[jack sommerset]

I wonder how much this Speech matters? Honestly, nothing he can say will make a differnce to me so I wonder if someone who has never voted before would be influenced by this or if someone who voted for Obama last time but changed to Romney cause Obama disappointed so much, only to switch back cuz of this speech. I'm numb to this guys words so it makes me wonder how some of these other folks feel about something like this. And of course I'm watching msnbc and it's a HUGE contrast to the republican convention. God bless

[BRHornet45]

ah so now they're whipping out the Jesus card with the closing prayer

[Edward]

:lol right, because the Republicans never whip out the Jesus card

[BRHornet45]

:lol right, because the Republicans never whip out the Jesus card

son you obviously haven't been paying attention.

[DMX7]

Maybe not as much this time around because they don't want to remind people that Romney believes in magic underwear.

[BRHornet45]

this election is going to be close

[Edward]

Maybe not as much this time around because they don't want to remind people that Romney believes in magic underwear.
Or that he believes "god" is a 6'2" man who lives on planet Kolob :lol

Or, and this part is the scariest, he believes Mary wasn't a virgin :wow

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

this election is going to be close
Nah...the GOP failed to offer up a competent nominee. All in all, they are a better-run party, but they've screwed the pooch on viable candidates lately.

[TheMACHINE]

Just think of the mess Obama is going to inherent if he wins.

[BRHornet45]

Nah...the GOP failed to offer up a competent nominee. All in all, they are a better-run party, but they've screwed the pooch on viable candidates lately.

in 2008 the Republicans didn't even put up a fight. McCain didn't stand a chance in hell after the way the media praised and worshiped Obama and bashed on Bush for several years prior. this time around though I think that many of those critical swing states are going the other way in favor of the Republicans. the Obama campaign and his friends over at ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, BET, and MTV did a magnificent job in 08 campaigning for him. this time however many people are seeing thru the bullshit.

[TheMACHINE]

^^this time around, only idiots will fall for HOPE and CHANGE.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

in 2008 the Republicans didn't even put up a fight. McCain didn't stand a chance in hell after the way the media praised and worshiped Obama and bashed on Bush for several years prior. this time around though I think that many of those critical swing states are going the other way in favor of the Republicans. the Obama campaign and his friends over at ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, BET, and MTV did a magnificent job in 08 campaigning for him. this time however many people are seeing thru the bullshit.

Not buying it...the Repugs haven't done anything to sway the voters (it can be argued the infighting has actually made them worse). It's hard to say, "well, Obama will lose those swing states on his own this time around." Not buying it. GOP will take it back in 2016, but they're going to have to eat the shit sandwich for 4 more years b/c the best they could come up with is Mitt fucking Romney:rollin

[SA210]

::yawn:: What a boring piece of crap speech full of lies that was..

Castro and Clinton speeches :tu:tu

Obamney :td:td

[Edward]

Clinton's speech was the only speech, in either party, that acknowledged how America as a whole needs to change for the 21st century economy. Every other speaker from either party, to varying extents, painted a rosy picture that America could return to being the manufacturing capital of the world where there would be enough low skill jobs that paid enough to have a strong middle class.

The only way the American economy will have a strong middle class again is if it invests in education.

[DPG21920]

Well I didn't know that but I just got a lot of Respect for Rosie Castro. I feel the exact same way about that place.

So I get this take and all, but do you then extend that logic to how America was founded and killing a bunch of people that were on our land before we got here?

[BRHornet45]

Florida (28)
Pennsylvania (20)
Ohio (18)
North Carolina (16)
Virginia (13)
Indiana (11)
Nevada (6)

are all going Republican this year. book it

[SnakeBoy]

in 2008 the Republicans didn't even put up a fight.

As I said back then, you can always tell the republicans don't really want to win whenever they nominate someone who doesn't have full use of his arms.

[Edward]

:lol Pennsylvania isn't going Republican. The other ones might very well (some of them always go Republican 2008 was just an exception because of P:lollin)

[DarrinS]

Sad that the first lady's speech was the best.

[Edward]

Romney and Obama are basically running for governor of Ohio which is why the system is so fucked up. Both candidates would trade 100 votes in some states for 1 vote in Ohio.

[BRHornet45]

son Pennsylvania is the long shot and the Republicans could live without having them, but I have a good feeling they may be the surprise of the election.

[Jacob1983]

Obama taking credit for ending the war in Iraq when we all know that Iraq ended the war in Iraq because they told the U.S. military to get the fuck out or face criminal prosecution. Lies, lies, lies. Obama hasn't been about hope and change. He's been more about nope and the same.

[Edward]

I also thought Florida was in the bag for the Republicans, but now that the Democratic party has started to shamelessly pander to Jews about Israel the way Republicans do, they might make a comeback in that state.

[DPG21920]

As bad as Obama has been IMO, that tag line was worse than anything he's ever done ^

[BRHornet45]

Romney and Obama are basically running for governor of Ohio which is why the system is so fucked up. Both candidates would trade 100 votes in some states for 1 vote in Ohio.

son Ohio is in the bag for the Republicans this year. they only lost it in 2008 by 4% of the votes thanks to all of the hood rats in Cleveland who voted because LeBron James held block parties at the Q to sign everyone up. also many of those conservative, white Democrats who voted for Obama in 08 due to their own white guilt will no longer hide in the closet. they will vote Republican this time around.

[Edward]

As bad as Obama has been IMO, that tag line was worse than anything he's ever done ^
So was the part about how Iraq supposedly "Told the US forces they'd face criminal prosecution" :lmao

Of all the things you can fault Obama for, the War in Iraq is one of the promises he actually kept.

[Jacob1983]

Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. Get that through your head. Iraq told America to get the fuck out or face criminal prosecution. The agreement was made by Iraq and America when evil dummy Hitler Bush was president. Thank you.

[BRHornet45]

sons Obama created sliced bread according to ABC News

[Edward]

Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. Get that through your head. Iraq told America to get the fuck out or face criminal prosecution. The agreement was made by Iraq and America when evil dummy Hitler Bush was president. Thank you.
:lmao

[Edward]

rofl fevertrees viewing thread

I predict he's gonna "agree" with BRHornet

[fevertrees]

rofl fevertrees viewing thread

I predict he's gonna "agree" with BRHornet

enough of this BS and the mods just need to IP check both BR and I.

[BRHornet45]

lol son I don't need help with my truth bombs. Kori can and has checked our IP's. we have been thru this many times. I know fevertrees, but he is not me.

[Edward]

enough of this BS and the mods just need to IP check both BR and I.
You better hope FEMA set up different IP addresses at the local community center with free WiFi.

[SA210]

HmaE2Aez_XY

[howbouthemspurs]

Anybody check out Joe Biden's daughter Ashley tonight sitting next to her mom? She looked ultra hot and sexy!

[SnakeBoy]

HmaE2Aez_XY

:lol I love the comparison.

Boehner to Villaraigosa - you don't hesitate bitch.

[Jacob1983]

Where is the tolerance, compassion, and equality? I thought I would see it at the DNC. I am calling ACLU right now.

[Venti Quattro]

http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/a80f7b28f89111e190ea1231380f301e_7.jpg

[cdcast]

Citizens United is gonna make this a close vote.

Republicans are gonna flood the airwaves with so much negative ads, the Bubbas are
gonna eat that shit up.

Republicans' hatred for Obama>>>>>>Republicans' enthusiasm for Romney

[boutons_deux]

Repugs and their UCA/1% owners must be shittin their $1000 pants.

Gecko got no effective bounce from R convention, keeps trending down in electoral votes.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/

Repugs know they don't have enough 1%er and bubba votes to counter the demographics of blacks, browns, women, so voter suppression and Rove/Kock Bros lying and slander are their ONLY chance.

We'll see soon enough, as Gecko's SuperPACs start spending their $Bs.

[Wild Cobra]

Gekko may lose now that the RNC disenfranchised a lot of voters.

[Drachen]

Obama's speech was crazy:

link (http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-help-us-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of,29478/)

[coyotes_geek]

Obama's speech was crazy:

link (http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-help-us-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of,29478/)

Agreed. I definitely liked Biden's speech (http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-says-life-better-than-it-was-4-years-ago-but,29477/) better.

[Edward]

I thought at the end of Biden's speech he was getting so sentimental there was a chance he was about to announce a surprise resignation :lol

One thing all the speakers did that I liked is they cut the crowd off every time the crowd was about to start incessantly booing Romney/Ryan.

Obama's best line imo was, "If everything I do was for polling reasons, then I obviously can't read," :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Obama Approval Up 7 Points After DNC

President Obama’s approval rating climbed to 52 percent, his highest rating in many months, according to Gallup’s latest poll. The last three days of the Democratic National Convention gave him a 7 percent bump in approval over three days, with a 3 percent hike in just the past 24 hours.

Mitt Romney received no bump in the polls from the RNC, dropping from 47 percent before the convention to 46 percent.

The DNC also surpassed the RNC in ratings; even competing with the opening night of NFL football, more people tuned in to Bill Clinton’s DNC speech than the second half of the Cowboys-Giants game.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/07/814511/poll-obama-approval-up-after-dnc/

Gecko, Gecko's staff, and his contributors must be excreting uncontrollably in their undies.

How Swift-Boat-y low will Rove the SuperPACs go trying to buy the White House?