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boutons_deux
09-08-2012, 05:35 PM
Here’s an excerpt from a letter on the wind tax credit sent to members of Congress by AFP and a large group of other conservative organizations yesterday:

This special provision continues the deplorable practice of using the tax code to favor certain groups over others. Whenever the government protects a particular industry, as it has with wind energy production, the industry tends to remain dependent on it.

It is time to end special tax provisions that distort the energy market and increase energy prices. We urge you to let the wasteful wind PTC expire as planned at the end of the year.

Percentage depletion ($11.2 billion over 10 years)

Companies are generally allowed to deduct the costs of an investment over the term of that investment’s useful life. But oil companies get to use a special method for calculating their deductions called “percentage depletion.” Instead of deducting the costs of an oil or gas well as its value declines, oil companies are allowed to deduct a flat percentage of the income they derive from it. Because the deductions are based on revenues, not costs, the subsidy actually increases at times when prices are high, which of course is when oil companies enjoy their greatest profits.

The oil and gas industry maintains that this is not a special tax break because other companies receive similar deductions. But the percentage depletion method permitted for oil and gas is fundamentally different and more favorable. In some cases, it can eliminate all federal taxes for these companies. Moreover, percentage depletion is a poorly designed subsidy because it “doesn’t specifically target hard-to-find or difficult-to-extract oil,” as CAP’s Richard Caperton and Sima Gandhi have written.

Domestic manufacturing deduction for oil production ($18.2 billion over 10 years)

Oil producers successfully lobbied for inclusion in a 2004 bill that gave the beleaguered manufacturing sector a special tax break designed to discourage outsourcing of jobs. For a number of reasons—including the capital-intensive nature of oil production, the relative mobility of investments, and of course the level of profitability—there are vast differences between the oil industry and traditional U.S. manufacturing. As Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, has explained: “Congress was trying to solve a manufacturing issue in this country” by enacting the deduction and included oil producers “almost inadvertently.”

Whatever rationale there was for allowing oil producers to claim the manufacturing deduction has evaporated in the intervening time, as oil prices have nearly tripled. Eliminating oil producers from a benefit never intended for them “will have no effect on consumer prices for gasoline and natural gas in the immediate future,” and is unlikely to have any effect over the long run, according to a recent report by Congress’s Joint Economic Committee.

Expensing of intangible drilling costs ($12.5 billion over 10 years)

Another special tax rule dating back to 1916 permits independent oil companies (and major integrated oil companies to a lesser but still significant extent) to “expense” certain costs associated with drilling oil wells. This means they can take immediate deductions for these costs rather than spreading the deductions out over the useful life of the wells, which is the normal tax code rule for other types of investments. Taking deductions immediately means the companies lower their tax bill in the first year, in effect getting an interest-free loan from the government.

“Dual capacity taxpayer” rules for claiming foreign tax credits ($10.8 billion over 10 years)

Our tax system allows companies that do business abroad to reduce from their tax bill any income taxes paid to other governments. The rules are supposed to prevent oil companies from claiming credit for royalty payments to foreign governments. Royalties are not taxes; they are fees for the privilege of extracting natural resources.

Notwithstanding these rules, so-called “dual capacity taxpayers,” which are overwhelmingly oil companies, have been permitted to claim credits for certain payments to foreign governments, even in countries that generally impose low or no business tax (suggesting that these payments, or levies, are in fact a form of royalty). Dual capacity taxpayer rules, therefore, are a subsidy for foreign production by U.S. oil companies. President Obama and others have proposed limiting the tax credit for these companies to what it would be if they did not have the special “dual capacity taxpayer” status.

Amortization of geological and geophysical expenditures ($1.4 billion over 10 years)

Another way many oil producers get to postpone their tax liability is by writing off the costs of searching for oil over an accelerated time period of two years. The president has proposed that all oil companies write off these costs over seven years, a relatively minor tax change that would have a negligible impact on investment decisions. According to the Congressional Research Service: “If the industry were experiencing a time of stagnant oil prices that were near the cost of production, relatively small changes in tax expenses might affect investment and production activities. However, in a time of high and volatile oil prices, small changes in tax expense are overshadowed by price variations.”

“Last-in, first-out” accounting for oil companies (as much as $22.5 billion over 10 years)

A tax accounting method known as “last in, first out,” or LIFO, provides a significant tax benefit for oil companies, especially when prices are rising. LIFO allows oil companies to calculate profits based on the cost of the oil they most recently added to their inventory. Since the most recently acquired inventory costs the most when prices are rising, this method can minimize a company’s taxable income. LIFO is available to businesses in other industries but large oil companies are perhaps the biggest beneficiaries.

Many of the tax provisions for oil companies are permanently embedded in the tax code. Tax credits for wind and other renewables are temporary, often renewed for only a couple years at a time.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/09/07/809091/americans-for-prosperity-calls-wind-tax-credit-deplorable-but-defends-government-support-of-oil-companies/

boutons_deux
09-08-2012, 06:57 PM
AFP is funded by the oil-y Kock Bros

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Americans_for_Prosperity_in_the_2012_Election

no surprise that AFP attacks the govt treatment of the nascent wind industry, while saying nothing about govt favoritism of the oil/gas industry.

DarrinS
09-08-2012, 07:47 PM
ThinkProgess and sourcewatch

Lol

boutons_deux
09-08-2012, 08:27 PM
Darrin :lol

TDMVPDPOY
09-09-2012, 05:55 AM
lol trying to save 1% costs of gdp ....FAIL

boutons_deux
09-09-2012, 07:20 AM
lol trying to save 1% costs of gdp ....FAIL

Repugs refuse to cut oil/gas co tax expenditures or DoD waste and corruption, but they insist on cutting costs of all kinds of stuff for children, disabled, poor, Randian "moochers", etc, many of which are about the same size as the oil/gas subsidies.

Sec24Row7
09-09-2012, 08:33 AM
Trying to kill independent producers much? Most of these breaks don't apply to majors, but are used by smaller companies. They are much needed. O&G isn't like any other business, so why should it be treated like any other business.

No one ever built a Stop N' Go and had NO ONE show up... Oil companies drill dry holes all the time... which are one heck of a lot more expensive... without the ability to write off dry holes, nothing gets drilled...

But hell, that's probably your goal anyway.

boutons_deux
09-09-2012, 08:44 AM
Big Oil’s Mountain of Cash

Oil Companies Cling to Tax Breaks While Hoarding Tens of Billions

"The past decade was very prosperous for the big five oil companies due in part to high oil prices, including the record of $147 per barrel in July 2008. A CAP assessment determined that these companies made more than $900 billion in profit from 2001 to 2010. High oil prices this year earned them a whopping $67 billion in six months."

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/news/2011/09/27/10397/big-oils-mountain-of-cash/

If the smaller outfits/independent products can't afford dry holes, then they are literally in over their heads, under-financed, and should find another line of less risky business, rather than expecting taxpayers to bail them out.

For the mega-oil/gas monsters, they have plenty of profits to pay for their dry holes. Again, not one penny of subsidies, tax expenditures, and we should increase the oil/gas/coal royalties, lease prices, while demanding 100% remediation of the taxpayers' lands.

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 09:53 AM
Trying to kill independent producers much? Most of these breaks don't apply to majors, but are used by smaller companies. They are much needed. O&G isn't like any other business, so why should it be treated like any other business.

No one ever built a Stop N' Go and had NO ONE show up... Oil companies drill dry holes all the time... which are one heck of a lot more expensive... without the ability to write off dry holes, nothing gets drilled...

But hell, that's probably your goal anyway.

Good points. Totally wasted, of course.

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 09:59 AM
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/news/2011/09/27/10397/big-oils-mountain-of-cash/

If the smaller outfits/independent products can't afford dry holes, then they are literally in over their heads, under-financed, and should find another line of less risky business, rather than expecting taxpayers to bail them out.


Another absolutely laughable quote from a source that does not have even the smallest understanding of the oil and gas business.
Apply this enlightened progressive "logic" to the remainder of small business and see how that works out.

Small business are almost exclusively risky ventures. Yet somehow, they shouldn't be allowed in the O&G business. Only the large, monopolistic players should be allowed to do that? Holy fuck.:rolleyes

boutons_deux
09-10-2012, 11:04 AM
TB :lol

98% of startups fail within 2 years. Do they all get the tax breaks that oil/gas tiny outfits and their investors get?

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Newsflash. Opening a hot dog stand <> to starting an oil and gas company. I've done it. Should we leave oil and gas development to Exxon-Mobile?
LOL at investors. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

boutons_deux
09-10-2012, 11:41 AM
TB newsflash! :lol

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 11:44 AM
I don't have any idea what I'm talking about.

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 11:46 AM
Should we leave oil and gas development to Exxon-Mobile?
LOL at investors. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

boutons_deux
09-10-2012, 12:18 PM
TB facepalm :lol

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 12:20 PM
Keep dodging, boutons. It's clear you don't have an answer to my question.

TeyshaBlue
09-10-2012, 12:22 PM
How many small oil companies have investors? How many? Be specific.