Mob storms U.S. Embassy in Cairo and sets fire to consulate in Libya

[Edward]

Does anyone else wonder if Huma Abedin was behind this?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If Obama had been President in 1962 instead of JFK we would have Soviet ICBM's in Cuba. JFK understood that making the other guy understand you mean business can change the way they do business without having to go to war.

You channeling your inner WC or just tying one off again? Making stuff up is fun and all but on a 1 to 10 stupid scale I would put this one at an 8.

Now what I would like you to do is think about your comments about oversimplification in regards to tax cuts efficacy and then compare and contrast that with your reasoning here.

You also have to consider how Obama would have behaved concerning to event leading up to the Missle Crisis such as the pissing contest over oil exportation, the Bay of Pigs and other such CIA shenanigans.

I mean that is even before you consider all that Obama has actually done versus the dove reputation the GOP has been saddled with. As a whole I have to say your parroting of the GOP narrative has me picturing you with your brandy tumbler getting hammered and yelling at the TV as you watch Fox News until you pass out.

[jack sommerset]

This can't be about a movie. God bless

[boutons_deux]

Republicans Shake Their Heads At Romney’s Libya Attack On Obama: He ‘Stepped In It’


The Post said Romney’s attack “is a discredit to his campaign.”

While the Romney campaign’s unofficial press secretary Jen Rubin tried to rally some troops around the GOP presidential nominee, it doesn’t look like the day is turning out to be a big winner for Romney as Republicans are turning out en masse to denounce his attacks:

“I don’t think President Obama sympathizes with those who attacked us. I don’t think any American does.” — Former Bush administration DHS Secretary Tom Ridge

“In the wake of this violence, the rush by Republicans — including Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and scores of other conservative critics — to condemn him for policies they claim helped precipitate the attacks is as tortured in its reasoning as it is unseemly in its timing.” — Mark Salter, former chief of staff and top campaign aide to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)

“They were just trying to score a cheap news cycle hit based on the embassy statement and now it’s just completely blown up,” said a very senior Republican foreign policy hand, who called the statement an “utter disaster” and a “Lehman moment” — a parallel to the moment when John McCain, amid the 2008 financial crisis, failed to come across as a steady leader. … “This is just unbelievable — when they decide to play on it they completely bungle it.”

But [a former Romney adviser] does have a good read on Romney–a man with a healthy sense of pride, and who’s already invested in the idea of Obama as an appeaser. It was the only plausible explanation the adviser could think of for how “they stepped in it,” in his words.

“I don’t feel that Mr. Romney has been doing himself any favors, say in the past few hours, perhaps since last night. Sometimes when really bad things happen, when hot things happen, cool words or no words is the way to go.” — Conservative commentator Peggy Noonan

“This is a time when we all should reflect on those who continue to give, even the last measure, of service and sacrifice, to promoting and defending America’s interests abroad. This is above all a reminder that politics should end at the waters edge.” — Jon Huntsman, former Republican governor of Utan and 2012 GOP presidential candidate.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/12/840821/republicans-shake-their-heads-romney-obama-libya/

Gecko, and his staff, DUMB as a bag of hammers. While his words flow better than, no so many fractured phrases as dubya, don't try to parse what he says. It's 100% flatulence.

[boutons_deux]

Romney Accuses Obama Of Sympathizing With Attackers Who Killed U.S. Ambassador

MITT ROMNEY: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi.

It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/12/833301/romney-obama-sympathize-attackers-libya-egypt/

[Bartleby]

What's really amazing is that Romney decided to double down on his remark.

[Clipper Nation]

Willard is one of the worst campaigners of all time, tbh...

[ChumpDumper]

I would never have thought this incident could net a gain for Obama, but man, fucking Willard.

[Spurminator]

Meanwhile, today in Libya... (http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI)

[MannyIsGod]

If Obama had been President in 1962 instead of JFK we would have Soviet ICBM's in Cuba. JFK understood that making the other guy understand you mean business can change the way they do business without having to go to war.

If any of the recent GOP candidates had been president in 1962 the US wouldn't exist today.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

Wow Romney is fucking stupid and has some really fucking stupid advising him. No wonder he won't beat Obama. I swear the dude has not done a single thing I have considered a good move.

[LnGrrrR]

I can tell you one thing... this won't be good for Romney's campaign.

https://twitter.com/CharlesDharapak/status/245893711257563136/photo/1

Mitt Romney leaving the podium after talking about the embassy attacks
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2mXBxCCcAAywvk.jpg:large

[LnGrrrR]

Meanwhile, today in Libya... (http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI)

Good for those people. Hopefully this will get out in the news, to counteract all the "bomb these savages" redwoods folks out there.

[MannyIsGod]

Never seen someone so happy to hear about a terrorist attack but that is probably because we don't have any pictures of Dick Cheney or Yonivore on 9/11.

[ChumpDumper]

I can tell you one thing... this won't be good for Romney's campaign.

https://twitter.com/CharlesDharapak/status/245893711257563136/photo/1Holy shit.

He's going to have to say he was thinking of his wife talking about love. Anything else and he's fucked.


Never seen someone so happy to hear about a terrorist attack but that is probably because we don't have any pictures of Dick Cheney or Yonivore on 9/11.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

If any of the recent GOP candidates had been president in 1962 the US wouldn't exist today.
You mean besides Ron Paul? POTUS Paul's diplomatic swag would have united all them warring nations, tbh.... Ron bless

[Latarian Milton]

Who cares, WE are opposed to american presence in the region. Pull back, defend OUR borders, wash our hands, and let them burn each other down. NO assistance, no military aid for any of those countries, no intelligence aid, nothing.

But we can't because we haven't been funding alternative energy development fast enough or long enough.



keep spinnin right round baby right round.

sadly this country kinda prefers the strategy of aggressive defense over passive defense, and israel is a vital point in the middle east to maintain a relative peace among those countries in the region and keep them honest. the US has spent astronomical amounts of $ on wars & smaller military operations but that's still not as much as the overflow of immigrants has cost, do you agree or disagree?

[SA210]

If any of the recent GOP candidates had been president in 1962 the US wouldn't exist today.

You can include Obama as part of that GOP, you know since his foreign policy has been just as bad if not worse.


WnmJ9JmqTtE

[SA210]

wA3ZohJUjuc

[Spurminator]

http://i.imgur.com/t8ehv.jpg

[DarrinS]

Whoever wins the next election, I just hope we stop being apologists for Islam and just abandon the entire region. Fuck these people.

[ChumpDumper]

Now Darrin's angry!

[Spurminator]

Fuck these people. (http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI)

[Capt Bringdown]

War on Terror = a bi-partisan affair that has been wildly expanded under Obama's regime.
But Romney said some stupid words, so the liberals start celebrating.

[ChumpDumper]

War on Terror = a bi-partisan affair that has been wildly expanded under Obama's regime.
But Romney said some stupid words, so the liberals start celebrating.From a political standpoint, they should.

[Agloco]

Fuck these people.

2FMtxACKlYM

[Wild Cobra]

So when all of the GOP candidates not named Ron Paul of the last two elections advocate an attack on Iran then that to you means that less than 1% of the party are warmongering?

I'm saying you don't know what a neocon is.

[Wild Cobra]

Firstly, a foreign policy that depends on bombs and wars is inherently weak...
Like Obama's?

Who said that a conservative policy depends on bombs? They are just one of several tools.

a strong foreign policy involves diplomacy and actual free trade...

Yes, it does. We were getting there with Libya, till someone was afraid of them actually being a first world nation.


Secondly, the best way to "expand Western influence" is to set a good example and stop forcing our presence on the rest of the world, tbh...

I agree in general. There are times when no matter what you do, some leaders will still attack you.

[Wild Cobra]

Romney Accuses Obama Of Sympathizing With Attackers Who Killed U.S. Ambassador

MITT ROMNEY: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi.

It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

Sounds like a proper response.

[Wild Cobra]

If any of the recent GOP candidates had been president in 1962 the US wouldn't exist today.
Why do you say that?

Situations matter. If you take these candidates desire to maintain a strong nation, they would have acted appropriate I think. Obama however, thinking we are the big bully of the would probably would have conceded to the USSR.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you say that?

Situations matter. If you take these candidates desire to maintain a strong nation, they would have acted appropriate I think. Obama however, thinking we are the big bully of the would probably would have conceded to the USSR.lol you're full of shit.

[Wild Cobra]

lol you're full of shit.
OK, you disagree with my opinion. Why can't you ever be civil about things?

[ChumpDumper]

OK, you disagree with my opinion. Why can't you ever be civil about things?That kind of stupidity requires an appropriate amount of disgust.

[Wild Cobra]

That kind of stupidity requires an appropriate amount of disgust.
That's OK Chumpy. We all understand your sense of morality isn't quite right.

[ChumpDumper]

That's OK Chumpy. We all understand your sense of morality isn't quite right.That was an incredibly stupid attempt at a comeback.

[Wild Cobra]

That was an incredibly stupid attempt at a comeback.
I'm not trying to spar with you. Just stating the obvious.

[SA210]

Ron Paul Correctly Predicts Al Qaeda Will Move Into Libya After Gaddafi

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[ChumpDumper]

I'm not trying to spar with you. Just stating the obvious.As am I.

[Wild Cobra]

You win Chumpmeister.

I'm not going to stoop to your level.

[ChumpDumper]

You win Chumpmeister.

I'm not going to stoop to your level.You're trying to map my house at this moment, flaglot.

[Wild Cobra]

You're trying to map my house at this moment, flaglot.

You need some new material.

[Jacob1983]

I'm not going to stoop to your level.

http://c0014319.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_c98702c

[jack sommerset]

These teachers can be teaching while negotiating. They need to to remember the children. God bless

[Capt Bringdown]

Bush Administration on 2006 Danish Cartoons: "We Certainly Understand Why Muslims Would Find These Images Offensive" (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/09/12/bush_administration_on_2006_danish_cartoons_we_cer tainly_understand_why_muslims_would_find_these_ima ges_offensive_.html)

As our politics are overtaken by embassy-riot finger-pointing, it's worth remembering how the Bush administration attempted to finesse the 2006 protests of Danish cartoons that mocked Muhammed. (I think everybody knows this by now, but Muslims don't illustrate Muhammad in any form. Hence the outrage.) From February 2006:

The Muslim world erupted in anger on Friday over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published in Europe while the Bush administration offered the protesters support, saying of the cartoons, ''We find them offensive, and we certainly understand why Muslims would find these images offensive.''

... The State Department spokesman, Sean McCormack, reading the government's statement on the controversy, said, ''Anti-Muslim images are as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images,'' which are routinely published in the Arab press, ''as anti-Christian images, or any other religious belief.''

[symple19]

guess they're storming the one in Yemen now too

[Wild Cobra]

These teachers can be teaching while negotiating. They need to to remember the children. God bless
Their power is holding children hostage.

[coyotes_geek]

Russia weighs in.... (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/europe/russians-say-anti-american-attack-in-libya-vindicates-their-position.html?_r=1)


Yevgeny Y. Satanovsky, president of the Institute of the Middle East in Moscow, said American leaders should not expect “one word of sympathy” from their Russian counterparts.

“It is a tragedy to the family of the poor ambassador, but his blood is on the hands of Hillary Clinton personally and Barack Obama personally,” Mr. Satanovsky said. He said Russian warnings against intervention in the Middle East came from the bitter experience of the Soviets in Afghanistan.

“You are the Soviet Union now, guys, and you pay the price,” he said. “You are trying to distribute democracy the way we tried to distribute socialism. You do it the Western way. They hate both.”

[jack sommerset]

Pretty strong and honest comment from Russia. God bless

[George Gervin's Afro]

Pretty strong and honest comment from Russia. God bless

pretty ignorant and dishonest post by the fake christian

ron guess

[boutons_deux]

France and Germany were right about Iraq

Russia (and history) were right about Afghanistan.

(Repug) America was DEAD WRONG on both.

Gecko/Ryan will be more of the same REPUG DEAD WRONG.

And dumbfuck Americans still ask "What do they hate us?" and right-wingers still LIE to the credulous dumbfucks.

[jack sommerset]

pretty ignorant and dishonest post by the fake christian

ron guess

I feel your pain, brother. It's early and you are angry already. I will pray that things go better in your life. God bless

[George Gervin's Afro]

I feel your pain, brother. It's early and you are angry already. I will pray that things go better in your life. God bless

The only pain that I suffer is produced from your ignorance on this board.

hog stress

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That'll be pretty remarkable if Romney somehow fucks this up and makes it a bad thing for him.

I'm by no stretch of the imagination a Quaddafi sympathizer like certain posters in this thread, but Obama was wrong for taking him out the same way Bush was wrong for taking Hussein out.

Both guys might have murdered innocent people in their country but that's hardly something exclusive to just Libya and Iraq. They were both secular leaders who kept Islamic extremism to a minimum. They might have been bad for the people in their country, but they were both good for America.

[Latarian Milton]

That'll be pretty remarkable if Romney somehow fucks this up and makes it a bad thing for him.

I'm by no stretch of the imagination a Quaddafi sympathizer like certain posters in this thread, but Obama was wrong for taking him out the same way Bush was wrong for taking Hussein out.

Both guys might have murdered innocent people in their country but that's hardly something exclusive to just Libya and Iraq. They were both secular leaders who kept Islamic extremism to a minimum. They might have been bad for the people in their country, but they were both good for America.

didn't see any role america played in taking him out tbh, the whole shit was plotted by europeans and executed by libyan insurgents, and throughout the process america hadn't done a single damn thing beyond diplomatic condemnation imho.

ghaddafi had been behaving good since hussein's regime fell and i never expected he would be right the next sent to the guillotine before the likes of the north korea's picklebreath leader and iran's president tbh

[CosmicCowboy]

didn't see any role america played in taking him out tbh, the whole shit was plotted by europeans and executed by libyan insurgents, and throughout the process america hadn't done a single damn thing beyond diplomatic condemnation imho.

ghaddafi had been behaving good since hussein's regime fell and i never expected he would be right the next sent to the guillotine before the likes of the north korea's picklebreath leader and iran's president tbh


Live under a rock?

[CosmicCowboy]

didn't see any role america played in taking him out tbh, the whole shit was plotted by europeans and executed by libyan insurgents, and throughout the process america hadn't done a single damn thing beyond diplomatic condemnation imho.

ghaddafi had been behaving good since hussein's regime fell and i never expected he would be right the next sent to the guillotine before the likes of the north korea's picklebreath leader and iran's president tbh

Ghadaffi had been behaving since Reagan came within a pubic hair of blowing his ass up with that flight of F111F's in 1986.

[TeyshaBlue]

Ghadaffi had been behaving since Reagan came within a pubic hair of blowing his ass up with that flight of F111F's in 1986.

That's the damn truth. He completely shut the fuck up after that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Ghadaffi had been behaving since Reagan came within a pubic hair of blowing his ass up with that flight of F111F's in 1986.
Americuh, fuck yeah!

[CosmicCowboy]

Americuh, fuck yeah!

You can ridicule it if you want but it was incredibly effective.

[RandomGuy]

http://i.imgur.com/t8ehv.jpg

:lmao





Wow....

Romney was under pressure to hit Obama harder, but took a running leap at the pooch for this one.

It will play well with his party's cool-aid drinkers, but no few out of his own party are edging away from this one.

[RandomGuy]

I was just kidding chief.

As an aside, getting tear gassed sucks.

Eyup.

They force you to stand in a closed room with the shit in basic training.

They let you wear your happy fun mask, to show you it works.. .then make you take it off and start breathing it. ick.

[RandomGuy]

Ron Paul Correctly Predicts Al Qaeda Will Move Into Libya After Gaddafi



Al qaeda was already there.

One of the towns in libya is where they recruited a lot of suicide bombers, and this town was less than 100 miles from Benghazi.



From what I have seen so far, what we know seems to suggest the attack on the consulate there was planned to be executed on 9-11, and the fact that the embassador was there, and the cover from the protests about the video were fortuitous for the attackers.

[RandomGuy]

You can ridicule it if you want but it was incredibly effective.

Eyup.

Libyan intelligence didn't blow up any more planes after that.

[Clipper Nation]

That'll be pretty remarkable if Romney somehow fucks this up and makes it a bad thing for him.

"If"? Willard already HAS made this a bad thing for him, with his despicable statement and that picture of him grinning from ear to ear after hearing the news, tbh.....

[jack sommerset]

The only pain that I suffer is produced from your ignorance on this board.

hog stress

Brother, why do you lie to yourself? Anyone who does not bleed blue upsets you. You attack them and call them ignorant over and over. It's just not me, brother. Your friend tb called you out on your hypocrisy. Thats pain coming out, your hypocrisy. You must look below your surface, brother. There you will find the real pain, the pain that drives you on this message board. Start over today, there is a lot of the day left. If you disagree with a poster, let them know you disagree with them without name calling. Give your opinion, brother. Name calling is silly and ignorant. God bless

[RandomGuy]

I didn't know about the FP one..... Thanks fuzzy.:toast

FP is good, but the best periodical, bar none, about the US and its relations with the rest of the world:

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/

Even-handed, objective, well researched. It is one of the two periodicals that I make room in the family budget for.

[RandomGuy]

"If"? Willard already HAS made this a bad thing for him, with his despicable statement and that picture of him grinning from ear to ear after hearing the news, tbh.....

To be fair, the picture was probably snapped as he was nodding to one of his aides off camera, and being polite.

As stupid as I found his remarks, the picture probably doesn't mean what one might think at first glance, out of context.

Romney does and says plenty of stupid shit when it comes to foreign policy without making stuff up.

This guy would be worse than Bush for our relations with the rest of the world, if this is his idea of being "bold".

(Romney's foreign policy stupidity probably deserves its own thread, I'll stop there)

[DarrinS]

vXXToNNNoZc

[LnGrrrR]

I don't know RG. You can see Romney smirking/smiling during the press conference as well when he's trying to score points. Even if it's innocent, it still looks bad.

[RandomGuy]

I don't know RG. You can see Romney smirking/smiling during the press conference as well when he's trying to score points. Even if it's innocent, it still looks bad.

Yeah. The dude is as smarmy as they come.

I thought Obama was bad when it came to saying anything and everything to get elected, but this guy takes that to a whole new level.

Mitt Romney will say ANYTHING to get elected. Any trace of genuine sentiment or thoughts has long been buried in bullshit. No one knows what he really thinks, or at least no one with any sense, because he has about zero credibility when telling you what his policy positions are.

[hitmanyr2k]

I don't know RG. You can see Romney smirking/smiling during the press conference as well when he's trying to score points. Even if it's innocent, it still looks bad.

That's one thing that struck me about the press conference is that idiotic "are you buying my bullshit?" smile he kept throwing at reporters when taking questions. Did anyone bother to tell him that people died in that Embassy? If you're going to try to use this for political gain at least try to look serious and presidential while taking questions.

[RandomGuy]

vXXToNNNoZc

:wow

Darrin posting a youtube based on the title.

The reporter didn't really "slam" the president, dipshit.

That bit of subtlety is obviously over your head, but hey, you keep using that fucktarded confirmation bias to view reality, by all means. It makes my job of depicting people who think like you do as idiots easy.

I can only be grateful that nuance and context are not your forte'. :toast

[boutons_deux]

Reagan, Bush Refused To Politicize Iran Crisis During 1980 Presidential Election

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/reagan-carter-romney-iran1.jpg

Republicans love Ronald Reagan. Despite the fact that today’s GOP is so far to the right that it probably would consider Reagan a radical leftist, whatever policy Republicans want to prescribe to a any particular issue, they just stamp a “Ronald Reagan” seal of approval to it and the crowd goes wild.

Mitt Romney is too, no stranger to idealizing Reagan. So one might expect that his widely ridiculed outburst that President Obama sympathized with the attackers who killed four American foreign service officers this week was something Ronald Reagan would have done. Not exactly. Some reporters have wondered whether Reagan attacked President Carter after his failed attempt at rescuing American hostages in Iran during the 1980 campaign. So what did Reagan say as news broke? He called for national unity:

“This is a difficult day for all of us Americans. … It is time for us…to stand united. It is a day for quiet reflection…when words should be few and confined essentially to our prayers.”

George H.W. Bush, also campaigning for the GOP nomination at that time was more direct: “I unequivocally support the president of the United States — no ifs, ands or buts — and it certainly is not a time to try to go one-up politically. He made a difficult, courageous decision.”

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/13/843551/reagan-bush-romney-iran-1980-election/

[boutons_deux]

Romney Campaign Pushing False Line That ‘Apologies’ Caused Attacks In Libya

– LIZ CHENEY: “Apologizing for America, appeasing our enemies, abandoning our allies and slashing our military are the hallmarks of Mr. Obama’s foreign policy.” [Romney Press Release, 9/12/2012]

– SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ): “The United States is weak and withdrawing and that’s why you’re seeing a lot of leaders reacting.” [Today Show, 9/13/2012]

— SEN. JIM INHOFE (R-OK): “What foreign policy? The policy of appeasement. Yes, it’s happening as a result of that.” [The Hill, 9/13/2012]

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/13/842351/romney-campaign-pushing-false-line-that-apologies-caused-attacks-in-libya/

[johnsmith]

Yeah. The dude is as smarmy as they come.


Which is why he can't win... Dude just screams scumbag. Even if he isn't, he looks like it.

[johnsmith]

Romney Campaign Pushing False Line That ‘Apologies’ Caused Attacks In Libya

– LIZ CHENEY: “Apologizing for America, appeasing our enemies, abandoning our allies and slashing our military are the hallmarks of Mr. Obama’s foreign policy.” [Romney Press Release, 9/12/2012]

– SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ): “The United States is weak and withdrawing and that’s why you’re seeing a lot of leaders reacting.” [Today Show, 9/13/2012]

— SEN. JIM INHOFE (R-OK): “What foreign policy? The policy of appeasement. Yes, it’s happening as a result of that.” [The Hill, 9/13/2012]

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/13/842351/romney-campaign-pushing-false-line-that-apologies-caused-attacks-in-libya/

You pretty bummed out that no US ambassadors were murdered today?

[boutons_deux]

johnsmith! :lol

my mother's dead, still want to fight me, dickless?

[boutons_deux]

Rumsfeld defends Romney: Embassy attacked because of ‘American weakness’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Rumsfeld-via-AFP.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/13/rumsfeld-defends-romney-embassy-attacked-because-of-american-weakness/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29&utm_content=Google+Reader

[johnsmith]

johnsmith! :lol

my mother's dead, still want to fight me, dickless?

Sure....why not?

And what does your dead mother have to do with anything?

[johnsmith]

You pretty bummed out that no US ambassadors were murdered today?

You never answered this btw.

[leemajors]

Rumsfeld defends Romney: Embassy attacked because of ‘American weakness’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Rumsfeld-via-AFP.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/13/rumsfeld-defends-romney-embassy-attacked-because-of-american-weakness/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29&utm_content=Google+Reader

I can't decide whether he or Tom Coughlin looks more like Skeletor

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

"If"? Willard already HAS made this a bad thing for him, with his despicable statement and that picture of him grinning from ear to ear after hearing the news, tbh.....
I'd be surprised if more than 10% of America's voting population even sees the picture, let alone lets it impact their vote.

[boutons_deux]

You never answered this btw.

johnsmith demands an answer! :lol

[Clipper Nation]

I'd be surprised if more than 10% of America's voting population even sees the picture, let alone lets it impact their vote.

I don't watch cable news but I'm sure MSNBC and CNN have been running that picture into the ground, tbh....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You can ridicule it if you want but it was incredibly effective.
I'm not ridiculing anything.

I am scoffing the Ronald Reagan ball washing Republicans still do.

[RandomGuy]

http://aje.me/QeB5Vj

"the attack was well planned and orchestrated" per the witnesses interviewed by Al Jazeera.

Speculation is that it was a revenge attack for the kiling of Al Qaeda's number 2 guy (a Libyan national, btw), by drone strike several months earlier.

[johnsmith]

Gents, there is a new grassroots effort going on in the club....your support is appreciated.

[RandomGuy]

Gents, there is a new grassroots effort going on in the club....your support is appreciated.

okaaaay. I'm on it.... if the power doesn't go out.

[DarrinS]

Awwwwkward


https://twitter.com/Ikhwanweb/status/246088588842917888






@khairatAlshater:We r relieved none of @USEmbassyCairo staff were harmed & hope US-Eg relations will sustain turbulence of Tuesday's events







@ikhwanweb Thanks. By the way, have you checked out your own Arabic feeds? I hope you know we read those too

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Eyup.

Libyan intelligence didn't blow up any more planes after that.

No, but they took no small part in the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

[Drachen]

I don't watch cable news but I'm sure MSNBC and CNN have been running that picture into the ground, tbh....

FWIW CNN is on all day at work and this is the only place I have seen the picture.

[MannyIsGod]

Awwwwkward


https://twitter.com/Ikhwanweb/status/246088588842917888

What was said on the Arabic feed?

[Drachen]

and what is ikwanweb?

[MannyIsGod]

I believe that the Muslim Brotherhood's twitter feed. I'm guessing the Embassy staff (whoever mans that twitter account) called them out for saying something like the opposite on the Arabic feed but as I can't read Arabic I would hope someone had already translated the appropriate tweets.

[MannyIsGod]

Perhaps some background?

https://twitter.com/DLachine/status/246273036163096578/photo/1

[Heath Ledger]

Bottom line is we are f***** no matter who is elected. I have voted Republican in the last 3 elections but this time around sadly I would have to vote for Obama. Romney reminds me of a used car salesman. I don't think there has ever been a presidential candidate more out of touch with the middle and lower class.

[Spurminator]

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-13/u-dot-s-dot-embassy-calls-out-muslim-brotherhood-over-twitter


The U.S. embassy in Cairo called out the Muslim Brotherhood on Twitter over differences between English and Arabic tweets about violent protests against an anti-Islamic video.

The Muslim Brotherhood’s official English-language Twitter account @Ikwanweb reposted a message from the group’s deputy head, Khairat El-Shater, saying he was “relieved none of @USembassycairo staff was hurt” and expressing his desire that relations withstand the “turbulence” of events.

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo wrote back: “Thanks. By the way, have you checked out your own Arabic feeds? I hope you know we read those too,” referring to the contradiction between the Brotherhood’s Arabic and English postings.

The Brotherhood’s Arabic feed included messages that praised the protests, such as “Egyptians revolt for the Prophet’s victory in front of U.S. embassy.”

Muslim Brotherhood leaders have called for a nationwide protest in Cairo tomorrow against an anti-Islamic video posted on YouTube. The video, which ridicules the Islamic Prophet Muhammad, also sparked demonstrations in Libya, Tunisia and Yemen.

[HI-FI]

Bottom line is we are f***** no matter who is elected. I have voted Republican in the last 3 elections but this time around sadly I would have to vote for Obama. Romney reminds me of a used car salesman. I don't think there has ever been a presidential candidate more out of touch with the middle and lower class.

this. i can't muster any excitement for either guy. this might be the worst choice since Bush vs Kerry. it's the Narcissist with Daddy Issues vs Gordon Gecko, what a fucking joke. i'll probably just write in a vote for Ron Paul, only guy i've admired since Nader.

[SA210]

Bottom line is we are f***** no matter who is elected. I have voted Republican in the last 3 elections but this time around sadly I would have to vote for Obama. Romney reminds me of a used car salesman. I don't think there has ever been a presidential candidate more out of touch with the middle and lower class.

I just can't vote for Obama, I cannot do it. But this is so damn true about Romney as well. Dude has no frickin clue whatsoever, nor does he care to.

[Th'Pusher]

NSFW The Onion makes a decent point (http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/)

[Wild Cobra]

Bottom line is we are f***** no matter who is elected. I have voted Republican in the last 3 elections but this time around sadly I would have to vote for Obama. Romney reminds me of a used car salesman. I don't think there has ever been a presidential candidate more out of touch with the middle and lower class.
That's funny. Obama reminds me of a used car salesman. Romney reminds me of a high profile head-hunter.

[Wild Cobra]

I just can't vote for Obama, I cannot do it. But this is so damn true about Romney as well. Dude has no frickin clue whatsoever, nor does he care to.
Maybe we should all write in "Ron Paul."

[RandomGuy]

The Onion makes a decent point (http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/)

NSFW.....

and


...ick.

But a well made point.

[RandomGuy]

vXXToNNNoZc

The thing about this was the rather atypical bluntness on the part of the president, accused, rather hollowly, of being "weak" on this, and inviting more attacks.


Egypt is a long standing "non-NATO ally".

Directly hinting that the attacks on our embasses might cause us to rethink that status was a VERY powerful message, and one that had to be somewhat walked back a bit to let the Egyptian goverment save a bit of face.

It is obvious, given Presdient Morsi's given public statements, that the current Egyptian goverment knows it has to walk a VERY fine line, between the messages it gives to its decidedly anti-American public (made that way by our hesitation to embrace the protestors seeking their dictators removal), and the US officially.

Funny that people like your dumb ass were calling for more support of Mubarak, and this was precisely what pissed them off.

[DarrinS]

The thing about this was the rather atypical bluntness on the part of the president, accused, rather hollowly, of being "weak" on this, and inviting more attacks.


Egypt is a long standing "non-NATO ally".

Directly hinting that the attacks on our embasses might cause us to rethink that status was a VERY powerful message, and one that had to be somewhat walked back a bit to let the Egyptian goverment save a bit of face.

It is obvious, given Presdient Morsi's given public statements, that the current Egyptian goverment knows it has to walk a VERY fine line, between the messages it gives to its decidedly anti-American public (made that way by our hesitation to embrace the protestors seeking their dictators removal), and the US officially.

Funny that people like your dumb ass were calling for more support of Mubarak, and this was precisely what pissed them off.



This is your second response to that video. You really get butt hurt when people attack your man crush.

For you

zc4e-HdlhPY

[CosmicCowboy]

The thing about this was the rather atypical bluntness on the part of the president, accused, rather hollowly, of being "weak" on this, and inviting more attacks.


Egypt is a long standing "non-NATO ally".

Directly hinting that the attacks on our embasses might cause us to rethink that status was a VERY powerful message, and one that had to be somewhat walked back a bit to let the Egyptian goverment save a bit of face.

It is obvious, given Presdient Morsi's given public statements, that the current Egyptian goverment knows it has to walk a VERY fine line, between the messages it gives to its decidedly anti-American public (made that way by our hesitation to embrace the protestors seeking their dictators removal), and the US officially.

Funny that people like your dumb ass were calling for more support of Mubarak, and this was precisely what pissed them off.

Ahhhh...the omnipotent RandomGuy know what the "people" half way around the world think. The Egyptian President himself said the people rioting were not a reflection of the views of the government or the majority of the people.

His exact words were "Those who are attacking the embassies do not represent any of us."

[RandomGuy]

This is your second response to that video. You really get butt hurt when people attack your man crush.


Actually, it was more in response to the embassy tweets than anything else.

Your video simply allowed me to make an additional point, using an existing link.

LOL confusing shorthand/lazy with butthurt.

Meh. All you have is middle school insults, and regurgitated bullshit, with a rather pointed lack of understanding nuances. GTFO.

[RandomGuy]

Ahhhh...the omnipotent RandomGuy know what the "people" half way around the world think.

Misnomer.

Better:

"Ahhhh...the omniscient RandomGuy know what the "people" half way around the world think."


Yeah, I know what you mean, it's really difficult to go and read english language or translated versions of local reporting by people who actually live in the region to get information not on Fox News.

That would be practically impossible. Anyone who claims to know what people in that area of the world think is just pretending to know, because no one in the US can possibly have that kind of information. Getting it would have to mean you were omniscient.

http://www.google.com/

[DarkReign]

The Onion makes a decent point (http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/)

Thought the same thing but quickly realized Islam is nothing like other religions these days.

While the Christian/Hindu/Buddhists/Jewish all (basically) grew up over the past 500 or so years, Islam and its constituents stayed the same medieval, barbaric holy warriors they were born as.

Moreover, motherfuckers need to get a goddamn job. I sure wish I could just flood the street every time someone offended me on a a random Wednesday, but alas, bills still need to get paid.

Fucking losers. The whole goddamn religious world, fucking losers. Do the world a big giant favor and off yourselves already, you scourge of human advancement in every aspect of the human condition.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's funny. Obama reminds me of a used car salesman. Romney reminds me of a high profile head-hunter.

You remind me of Tugg Speedman.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ahhhh...the omnipotent RandomGuy know what the "people" half way around the world think. The Egyptian President himself said the people rioting were not a reflection of the views of the government or the majority of the people.

His exact words were "Those who are attacking the embassies do not represent any of us."

I prefer his approach to your choosing of a single line of rhetoric completely out of context to base the Egyptian position on.

They play the game on the other side of the world too.

[Wild Cobra]

You remind me of Tugg Speedman.

I had to look that reference up as I never heard the name before. On IMDB, under "People who liked this also liked..."

Wow...

What a list of dumb movies. Must be your speed.

I seriously doubt I resemble Tugg in any way.

[rascal]

The last time a US Ambassador was murdered was under the Carter Administration, another weak pacifist President.

Coincidence? I think not.

Has nothing to do with the president.

[Wild Cobra]

Has nothing to do with the president.
I agree it isn't proof, but it is something to wonder about.

[johnsmith]

Thought the same thing but quickly realized Islam is nothing like other religions these days.

While the Christian/Hindu/Buddhists/Jewish all (basically) grew up over the past 500 or so years, Islam and its constituents stayed the same medieval, barbaric holy warriors they were born as.

Moreover, motherfuckers need to get a goddamn job. I sure wish I could just flood the street every time someone offended me on a a random Wednesday, but alas, bills still need to get paid.

Fucking losers. The whole goddamn religious world, fucking losers. Do the world a big giant favor and off yourselves already, you scourge of human advancement in every aspect of the human condition.


:toast

[Trainwreck2100]

The Onion makes a decent point (http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/)
fucking shit man give a content warning, shit like that could get someone fired

[Th'Pusher]

fucking shit man give a content warning, shit like that could get someone fired

Yeah. Sorry about that. Edited.

[Drachen]

I had to look that reference up as I never heard the name before. On IMDB, under "People who liked this also liked..."

Wow...

What a list of dumb movies. Must be your speed.

I seriously doubt I resemble Tugg in any way.

Don't ever go full....

Oh nevermind.

[Capt Bringdown]

Just saw some video on the BBC about protests in Sydney, Australia. Looked more like a riot, pretty full on.


Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film (http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/14862166/live-blog-sydney-protest-erupts-over-anti-islam-film/)
"We are sick and tired of everyone mocking our beloved Prophet," protester Houda Dib told AFP.
"We are here for the sake of our God," he said.
"The message is clear, you cannot mock (the Prophet)."

[Trainwreck2100]

"We are sick and tired of everyone mocking our beloved Prophet," protester Houda Dib told AFP.
"We are here for the sake of our God," he said.
"The message is clear, you cannot mock (the Prophet)."

this makes twice that i know of someone has mocked the prophet.

[boutons_deux]

Did Romney Actually Say He'd Take Advantage of Hostages or Dead Americans?

And yet, in that election, in the Jimmy Carter election, the fact that we had hostages in Iran, I mean, that was all we talked about. And we had the two helicopters crash in the desert, I mean, that was the focus, and so him [Reagan] solving that made all the difference in the world. I'm afraid today that if you simply got Iran to agree to stand down on nuclear weapons, they'd go, "Now hold on. It's really a -- "I mean, if something of that nature presents itself I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity.

I'm sorry, what? If there's an international crisis where Americans die and/or hostages are taken, you'll "work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity"?

I might not believe that's what Mitt Romney meant by this statement, if it wasn't exactly what he did down the road, when he immediately tried to politically capitalize on the attacks on our diplomatic outposts, before we even knew who had died.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/did-romney-actually-say_b_1895437.html?utm_hp_ref=daily-brief?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=091912&utm_medium=email&utm_content=BlogEntry&utm_term=Daily%20Brief

"so him [Reagan] solving that"

WTF?

St Ronnie "solved" what?

As the Repugs did to Johnson in subverting the Paris Peace talks and prolonging the VN war, the Repugs did a deal with the Iranians to prolong the hostage crisis until St Ronnie was in office in return for no retaliation from St Ronnie.

[CosmicCowboy]

Ronnie allowed secret sales of state of the art TOW anti-tank missiles to Iran as a quid quo pro to get the hostages back. The money they got for the missiles was secretly funneled to the Contras in Nicaragua. So yeah, Ronnie "solved" the hostage crisis even though he had to sneak it by congress.

[Drachen]

Looks like the French just did us a solid:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/19/world/europe/france-mohammed-cartoon/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[clambake]

Ronnie allowed secret sales of state of the art TOW anti-tank missiles to Iran as a quid quo pro to get the hostages back. The money they got for the missiles was secretly funneled to the Contras in Nicaragua. So yeah, Ronnie "solved" the hostage crisis even though he had to sneak it by congress.

wc would call him a weak leader.

[boutons_deux]

Ronnie allowed secret sales of state of the art TOW anti-tank missiles to Iran as a quid quo pro to get the hostages back. The money they got for the missiles was secretly funneled to the Contras in Nicaragua. So yeah, Ronnie "solved" the hostage crisis even though he had to sneak it by congress.

I think Gecko is referring to St Ronnie and Repugs exploiting/sabotaging the hostage crisis and telling the Iranians that US wouldn't retaliate if the hostage were released the day St Ronnie was inaugurated.

That was just another time, like in Beirut, where St Ronnie and the Repugs were tough on terrorists attacking America.

I really don't think Gecko wants to bring up St Ronnie's contra/Iran crimes again, as some kind of solution.

[lefty]

Looks like the French just did us a solid:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/19/world/europe/france-mohammed-cartoon/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
oh shit :lol

They are gonna get it, they better pray they dont get bombed :lmao

[TeyshaBlue]

Looks like the French just did us a solid:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/19/world/europe/france-mohammed-cartoon/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

French Onion FTW.

[Drachen]

oh shit :lol

They are gonna get it, they better pray they dont get bombed :lmao

Yep, hopefully they will be all like


SQUIRREL!
http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens17571449module148748893photo_1299561126d ug_up.jpg

[TeyshaBlue]

Yep, hopefully they will be all like


SQUIRREL!
http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens17571449module148748893photo_1299561126d ug_up.jpg

:lmao

[cantthinkofanything]

oh shit :lol

They are gonna get it, they better pray they dont get bombed :lmao

too late

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-19/report-4-injured-after-explosion-at-kosher-store

[Winehole23]

But the more relevant impact is how this reflects on the war in Libya, flamboyantly celebrated as a grand success by Washington consensus and then all but forgotten. Stevens' journal is but the latest in a long line of evidence demonstrating how much extreme instability, lawlessness and violence is plaguing that country (http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/reports/libya-rule-of-law-or-rule-of-militias) in the aftermath of the intervention. Wrote Hastings: "As one senior U.S. government official who'd visited Libya told me earlier this summer: 'It's not Iraq, but it's not good, either.'"


Along those lines, the New York Times reported today (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/world/africa/attack-in-libya-was-major-blow-to-cia-efforts.html?hp) that the killing of Stevens and the evacuation of all Americans from Benghazi both exposed and disrupted a far larger CIA contingent ("operatives and contractors") in the city than was previously known - even by Libya's supposedly sovereign government. That the US exploited its "humanitarian intervention" to establish a substantial covert CIA beachhead is the opposite of surprising. Those operatives, among other things, worked on "tracking shoulder-fired missiles taken from the former arsenals of" Gadaffis' forces and "aided in efforts to secure Libya's chemical weapons stockpiles".


Yet again, western military intervention spawns vast instability and leads to the proliferation of weapons into the hands of extremists deeply hostile to the US. As Jonathan Schwarz, referring to the US support of the pre-Al-Qaeda mujahdeen in Afghanistan, sardonically noted (https://twitter.com/tinyrevolution/status/245893850340671488) in the aftermath of the 11 September Benghazi attack: "with practice and better technology, we've really cut down the turnaround time between arming Islamists and them killing Americans on 9/11."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/24/cnn-journal-libya

[jack sommerset]

We need to educate these 3rd world countries. God bless

[Winehole23]

like when we tipped the scales in Libya recent civil war? is that a relevant example?

[jack sommerset]

like when we tipped the scales in Libya recent civil war? is that a relevant example?

I'm talking more in line with human rights, brother. I would start teaching them not to repress, kill or discriminate against their citizens for speaking about or participating in civil and government events/issues. God bless

[Winehole23]

how would you teach them, brother?

[clambake]

how would you teach them, brother?

by spilling his blood like jesus.

[jack sommerset]

how would you teach them, brother?

With patience and understanding. God bless

[TeyshaBlue]

trollrrific!

[Drachen]

McCain Misses Classified Benghazi meeting to hold press conference demanding answers on Benghazi/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57550681-10391739/mccain-misses-libya-briefing-while-criticizing-lack-of-info/)

I know that there is a "yo dawg" Xhibit type joke in here somewhere.

[Wild Cobra]

Senior moment?

[boutons_deux]

Senior moment?

No, just more proof that Repugs DENY facts to create political fantasies to sucker in their irretrievably ignorant, white, male bubba base that doesn't GAF about facts or education, either.

Fox Ignores Its Own Reporting To Sow Confusion About Benghazi Talking Points

"[T]here are a lot of questions after what Petraeus told Congress. Because we still don't know why exactly the talking points were changed. He said on Friday that he knew it was terrorism from the very start." Later, the co-hosts speculated that the White House had edited the talking points for political reasons:
Yet on the Friday broadcast of The Five, homeland security correspondent Catherine Herridge reported that while Republicans said the talking points change was "an effort to downplay or minimize the role of terrorists in the Benghazi attack," Democrats say that "these changes were not driven by politics, they were simply made to protect classified information."
"Senator Mark Udall, Democrat of Colorado, said that Mr. Petraeus explained to lawmakers that the final document was put in front of all the senior agency leaders, including Mr. Petraeus, and everyone signed off on it."
Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communication Ben Rhodes told reporters, "The only edit that was made by the White House and also by the State Department was to change the word 'consulate' to the word 'diplomatic facility,' since the facility in Benghazi was not formally a consulate."http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/17/fox-ignores-its-own-reporting-to-sow-confusion/191445

"so there you have it! was not a consulate, but a diplomatic facility! Obama was LYING!" :lol

[Drachen]

Senior moment?

I think I heard that his staff made a "scheduling error"

[boutons_deux]

I think I heard that his staff made a "scheduling error"

and getting his face in the press was more important than getting the facts. Facts, like deficits, don't matter.

[Winehole23]

knock on, Garcia v. Google. 9th Circuit orders Google to take down "The Innocence of Muslims":

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/bad-facts-really-bad-law-court-orders-google-censor-controversial-video-based

[boutons_deux]

knock on, Garcia v. Google. 9th Circuit orders Google to take down "The Innocence of Muslims":

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/bad-facts-really-bad-law-court-orders-google-censor-controversial-video-based

:lol Along with all the other American institutions, the justice system is fucking broken. Dreck judges deliver dreck judging.