Late Pass. 9/11 Explosive Evidence documentary

[InRareForm]

Which thread did this one get debunked at? :wakeup

9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out

http://video.cpt12.org/video/2270078138

[InRareForm]

wow just halfway into film they really trying to sell DVD's for $300... really?

[DarrinS]

wow just halfway into film they really trying to sell DVD's for $300... really?

They know their target audience is a bunch of gullible retards

[Nbadan]

Which thread did this one get debunked at? :wakeup

9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out

http://video.cpt12.org/video/2270078138

It's never been debunked because Chumpy doesn't have 2 hours to watch it

:lmao

[InRareForm]

Lol

[Nbadan]

Lol

Seriously, Chumpy attempted to prove once that nano-engineered ion spheres were actually chips of red paint...what a dumb-ass...

[Nbadan]

9/11: INTERCEPTED - Full Film

Simulated radar tracks, aircraft exceeding their max operating limits by more than 130-150 knots, inaccurate aircraft position reports, false aircraft target reports, aircraft converging -- flying virtually in formation with -- and then diverging from reported 9/11 aircraft, fighters launched in the wrong direction, aircraft seemingly still airborne after the alleged attack, poor communications, phones not working.... What happened on the morning of September 11, 2001? Why were our defenses ineffective? Pilots For 9/11 Truth analyze NORAD response, Audio recordings as well as Radar data provided by government agencies.

f6WSDxErgBE

[Wild Cobra]

Want it debunked? Give me a time index of what you mean. I am not going to watch 1-1/2 hr of a show with commercials in it to disprove something that I'm sure already has.

[ChumpDumper]

It's never been debunked because Chumpy doesn't have 2 hours to watch it

:lmaoActually I asked you a question about one of the points raised in that video the other day.

You failed to answer.

I don't think you watched it tbh.


Seriously, Chumpy attempted to prove once that nano-engineered ion spheres were actually chips of red paint...what a dumb-ass...Wow, you don't even know what you are talking about anymore.

The iron-rich spheres were supposed to be the result of the ignition of the red chips of super-duper-nano-thermite/mate-magic beans. The problem is that iron rich microspheres can be produced by any number of processes that involve heat and organic compounds. It's a problem that no other possible processes were excluded.

It is also a problem that paint was not excluded as the material that made up the red-grey chips.

Occam's razor cuts through bad science.

[Wild Cobra]

Not only that, but even though there is evidence of a theritic reaction, there is no evidence of thermite.

Thermite is more than just iron oxide and aluminum. It has other elements in a balanced mix to achieve it's best potential.

[ChumpDumper]

Not only that, but even though there is evidence of a theritic reaction, there is no evidence of thermite.

Thermite is more than just iron oxide and aluminum. It has other elements in a balanced mix to achieve it's best potential.Yeah, there wasn't any aluminum in the chips.

That's definitive evidence it wasn't thermite.

[ChumpDumper]

It appears dan isn't keeping up on his dogged and scholarly research into 9/11.

He does claim to be searching for the truth, so I will give it to him:


Conclusions

The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent
with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and
kaolin clay pigments.

There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the
red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nanothermite.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64959841/9119ProgressReport022912_rev1_030112web.pdf

It turns out what I said was probably paint...


...was paint.

lol

(page 6 if you care to read it, dan)

[ChumpDumper]

Before bed, I believe a victory lap is in order.


From my cursory reading on this, it seems the twoofers have discovered the presence of red paint in the twin towers.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/911/Separated-At-Birth.jpg
From my reading, they didn't exclude the possibility of the chips' being red paint.

If you believe they did, let me know how they did it.
That "international team of scientists" found red paint.

How does red paint bring down buildings?
There was chemical evidence all over the place....Chumpy thinks it's red paint...
lol melted steel

lol iron rich spheres

lol explosive paint chips

lol super nano explosive thermite/mate placed exactly at the impact floors on each building

lol controlling the collapse of the north tower to fall into wtc7 and bring it down for no apparent reason
welcome to the Spurstalk political forum where engineered super nano-thermite spheres become 'chips of red paint'

:lol

[Nbadan]

Typical Chumpy...


Actually I asked you a question about one of the points raised in that video the other day.

You failed to answer.

I don't think you watched it tbh.

Ignore and deflect...I answered your question.

Why didn't you answer mine? If he was wrong, why did NIST change their findings?

[Nbadan]

The iron-rich spheres were supposed to be the result of the ignition of the red chips of super-duper-nano-thermite/mate-magic beans. The problem is that iron rich microspheres can be produced by any number of processes that involve heat and organic compounds. It's a problem that no other possible processes were excluded.

Wrong


Although these elements -- aluminum, iron, oxygen, and silicon -- were all abundant in building materials used in the Twin Towers, it is not possible that such materials milled themselves into fine powder and assembled themselves into a chemically optimized aluminothermic composite as a by-product of the destruction of the Twin Towers.

Nope, these materials certainly didn't mill themselves, so who did mill them? The Wikipedia article states that:


A method for producing nanoscale, or ultra fine grain (UFG) aluminum powders, a key component of most nano-thermitic materials, is the dynamic gas-phase condensation method, pioneered by Wayne Danen and Steve Son at Los Alamos National Laboratory. A variant of the method is being used at the Indian Head Division of the Naval Surface Warfare Center."

Funny thing about the Naval Surface Warfare Center:


The Indian Head Division of the Naval Surface Warfare Center, (a branch of the Naval Sea Systems Command or NAVSEA), described in 1999 as the "national center for energetics"[1], "the only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States"[2] and in 2008 as "probably the most prominent US center for nano-thermite technology"[3], alleges via Freedom of Information Act replies that records "regarding research and development of nano-sized or Ultra Fine Grained (UFG) aluminum powders, nano-sized or Ultra Fine Grained (UFG) iron oxide powders or other metal oxide powders and Metastable Intermolecular Composites prior to 2002" do not exist. According to Indian Head, "research may have been conducted by Indian Head Division personnel but not submitted."-

Source: http://911blogger.com/node/2052

As the Rock Creek Free Press pointed out in their bombshell article "Scientists Find Explosives in World Trade Center Dust":


The authors avoided describing the material as "explosive" because the flakes studied are too small to assess the bulk properties of the material.

To test the power of this thermitic material, small samples were heated in a Differential Scanning Calorimeter, a very sensitive device for detecting the heat generated by a chemical reaction. The samples ignited at about 430ºC and generated as much or more heat than an equal mass of high explosive such as TNT.

So the material could have been the explosive itself, or it could have ignited other explosives. The scientists not being 100% sure about this has been used by the Screw Loose Change blog as a talking point against their findings. Which is beyond ridiculous, because they presented no argument that the material was anything but nano-thermite, but rather a debate about how energetic the material was.

So now the question is not if an explosive method was used, but which one? Well, there is evidence for both. Let's start with nano-thermite igniting other explosives, the Wikipedia article states that:

"Thermobaric weapons are considered to be a promising application of nanoenergetic materials."

Ok, this is just embarrassing now...look for more ignorance and deflection from chumpy

[Nbadan]

From the The Open Chemical Physics Journal


The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

No aluminum present... :lol

Red paint chips... :lol

Now chumpy knows better than Physicists

Chumpy :lmao

[mouse]

I told Chump and his lap dog WC the truth will surface now they are panicking trying to figure out what screen name to use when it all comes out as facts.

I wonder if Slomo will feel sorry for them and at least give them they're post count.

[Nbadan]

Love how these Bush Lovers love to declare premature victory, relish in their poorly research 'facts', and uniformly label anyone who dare disagree with them a conspiracy nut

[Nbadan]

From Chumpy's link


There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the
red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nanothermite.

From The Open Chemical Physics Journal



while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material.

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

:lmao

Chumpy is a tool.

[ChumpDumper]

Typical Chumpy...



Ignore and deflect...I answered your questionTypical dan.

No you didn't.

I'm still waiting. You didn't answer.

And lol Steven Jones.

[ChumpDumper]

It appears dan isn't keeping up on his dogged and scholarly research into 9/11.

He does claim to be searching for the truth, so I will give it to him:



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64959841/9119ProgressReport022912_rev1_030112web.pdf

It turns out what I said was probably paint...


...was paint.

lol

(page 6 if you care to read it, dan)Did you red it, dan?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

Here, dan: tell us all where this guy went wrong.
Methods
In order to confirm that the samples chosen had the characteristics of WTC dust, the
samples were examined by stereomicroscope and by polarized light microscopy (PLM)
according to the procedures described in Turner et al., 20054 (Figures 2 and 3). The
analytical procedures used to characterize the red/gray chips were based on the criteria
for the particles of interest in accordance with the recommended guidelines for forensic
identification of explosives5 and the ASTM standard guide for forensic paint analysis
and comparison.6 The criteria for the particles of interest as described by Harrit et al.1
are: small red/gray chips attracted by a magnet and showing an elemental composition
primarily of aluminum, silicon and iron as determined by scanning electron microscopy
and x-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (SEM-EDS) (Figure 4). The spectrum may
also contain small peaks related to other elements. To that end, the following protocol
was performed on each of the four WTC dust samples.
1. The dust sample particles contained in a plastic bag were drawn across a
magnet and those attracted to the magnet were collected (Figure 5).
9119ProgressReport022912_rev1_030112web Page 3 of 21
2. Using a stereomicroscope, particle chips showing the characteristic red/gray
were removed and washed in clean water.
3. The particles were dried and mounted on a carbon adhesive film on an SEM stub
and photographed (Figure 6).
4. Analysis of the surfaces of the chips was done by SEM-EDS at 20 kV without any
added conductive coating (Figures 7 and 8).
Red/gray particles that matched the criteria (attracted to a magnet and an EDS Al-Si-Fe
spectrum) were then considered particles of interest and subjected to additional analytical
testing. The additional tests included: Fourier transform infrared spectroscopy (FTIR);
SEM-EDS of cross-sections; low temperature ashing and residue analysis by
transmission electron microscopy (TEM) with selected area electron diffraction (SAED)
and EDS; muffle furnace ashing and residue analysis by PLM and TEM-SAED-EDS;
ultra-microtome sectioning of the red layer and analysis by TEM-SAED-EDS; and solvent
tests.
Stereomicroscopy was done using either an Olympus SZ-40 stereomicroscope or a
Wild M5-49066 stereomicroscope.
Polarized light microscope (PLM) examination of the dusts and ashed residue was done
with an Olympus BH-2 PLM or an aus Jena Jenapol PLM.
Scanning electron microscope (SEM) analysis of the surfaces of red/gray chips was
done using a JEOL Model JSM-6490LV SEM coupled with a Thermo Scientific Noran
System SIX x-ray energy dispersive spectrometer (EDS). Digital x-ray images and
phase mapping was also done with this instrument.
Fourier transform infrared spectroscopy (FTIR) was performed with a SensIR FTIR
equipped with a diamond ATR objective and attached to an Olympus BX-51 compound
microscope.
Cross-sections of the chips of interest were made with clean scalpel blades. The
analysis of cross-sections was done with a JEOL Model JSM-6500F field emission SEM
with a Thermo Scientific Noran System SIX EDS system.
Low-temperature ashing (LTA) is an alternative to using solvents to extract inorganic
constituents from an organic film or coating.6 LTA of the chips of interest was done
using an SPI Plasma Prep II plasma asher. LTA was performed for time periods of
30 minutes to 1 hour depending on the size of the chip. The gray layer remained intact
and the red layer residue was collected in clean water and drops of the suspension
were placed on carbon-film TEM grids. After drying, the particulate was analyzed using
a Philips CM120 TEM capable of SAED and equipped with an Oxford EDS system.
Chips of interest were ashed in a muffle furnace using a NEY Temperature
Programmable furnace operated at 400oC for 1 hour. The gray layer remained intact
and the red layer residue was prepared as described above and analyzed using a
Philips CM120 TEM-SAED-EDS.
9119ProgressReport022912_rev1_030112web Page 4 of 21
Ultra-thin sections of a red layer were cut using a Reichert-Jung Ultracut E Ultramicrotome
with a diamond knife. The ultra-thin sections were placed directly on TEM grids and
analyzed using a Philips EM 420 TEM-SAED-EDS.
Samples of red/gray chips were placed in several solvents overnight and then subjected
to ultrasonic agitation to determine if the solvents could dissolve the epoxy binder and
liberate the internal particles. The solvents included methylene chloride, methyl ethyl
ketone (MEK), and two commercial paint strippers used for epoxy resins. The
commercial paint strippers, Klean-Strip KS-3 Premium Stripper and Jasco Premium
Paint and Epoxy Remover, contain methylene chloride, methanol and mineral spirits.
One red/gray chip was subjected to 55 hours of submersion in MEK, then dried and
coated with a thin layer of gold for conductivity. The red layer was analyzed by SEMEDS
analysis using an advanced x-ray phase mapping technique. The technique uses
a multivariate statistical analysis program to find spectrally similar regions in a spectral
image acquisition. It analyzes the spectrum at each pixel location and then groups the
pixels with similar spectra into principal components or phases.

Thanks in advance for your full, non hand-waving, scientific answer stating how you know much more than this engineer who actually tested the actual dust.

[Nbadan]

:sleep

blow your load already chumpy and quite fucking around if you got evidence that all these physicists and chemical engineers are wrong prove it...

[Nbadan]

OREilly?


There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the
red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nanothermite.

[Nbadan]

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf


this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.
The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these
chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
2Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA
3S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA
49/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA
5Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia
6Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA
7International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA

I've got 6 physicists and other scientists, engineers and architects to your one...

[SA210]

:lmao

As if Chump-Gate wasn't enough ownage of Chumpy, Dan slaughters him yet again. Not a good week for Chump at all

lol paint chips
lol Chump-Gate: The 9/11 post count story continues..

[Wild Cobra]

:lmao

As if Chump-Gate wasn't enough ownage of Chumpy, Dan slaughters him yet again. Not a good week for Chump at all

lol paint chips
lol Chump-Gate: The 9/11 post count story continues..

I suggest you look at what other chemicals need to be found to say it was termite, before you claim victory for your side.

As much as I hate to say this, Chump is right. You have any idea how much it pains me to say that?

[ChumpDumper]

:sleep

blow your load already chumpy and quite fucking around if you got evidence that all these physicists and chemical engineers are wrong prove it...I did.

They didn't do the tests Millette did.

What's the matter, dan? I thought all truthers wanted was an independent investigation. Well, you got one here and now that the results didn't confirm your bias, you're melting down.

Tell me what you think Millette did wrong. I already told you what I thought the band of biased conspiracy theorists did wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

OREilly?Yes really. There is aluminum in the kaolin that's in the paint, but that's not the same thing as the elemental Al you need for super-duper-melting-yet-also-explosive nanothermite.

Paint chips, dude.

Paint chips.

[ChumpDumper]

WrongRight.

ZOMG! Microspheres!

jZ9wSD4Hcys

I guess dan is going to say the manufacturer of Brillo pads is in on 9/11 now.




So now the question is not if an explosive method was used, but which one?I'm sorry, you're going to have to tell everyone your theory about where these explosives were planted, how they were made to explode when and where they did and why they didn't make any noise right before the collapses of the tower like any other controlled demolition explosion ever in the history of the world.

First things first.

EDIT: Oh, I'm sorry.

It's unfair of me to ask you what you think really happened on 9/11.

You are entirely incapable of coming up with a theory and even if you could you would never have the courage to commit it to your legacy on the internets or open it to the slightest scrutiny.

lol post count

[mouse]

It's true Chump took a beating in this topic but he is still hanging in there and has brought up some major points that need to be addressed.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf



Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
2Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA
3S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA
49/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA
5Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia
6Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA
7International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA

I've got 6 physicists and other scientists, engineers and architects to your one...OK, let's go over some of the things the scientists who prepared that paper have said:

Niels Harrit: I personally am certain that conventional explosives were used too, in abundance.

RT [:lol]: When you say “in abundance,” how much do you mean?

Niels Harrit: Tons! Hundreds of tons! Many, many, many tons!

http://rt.com/usa/news/did-nano-thermite-take-down-the-wtc/?fullstory

Do you agree with this scientist's statement that hundreds of tons of explosives were used in NYC, dan?

Steven Jones: Another one that you might never have thought of, that I will be addressing this next little while is Haiti. Now Haiti you wouldn't think of as a generated crisis. But did you know that tremendous oil reserves have been found in the bay, in that area right around Port-au-Prince. Tremendous oil reserves reported in 2008 to be larger than the oil reserves of Venezuela, which is one of the largest oil producers in the world. So again is this a "natural" or "real" crisis or is it one of Biden's generated crises?

http://vimeo.com/9609513

Do you agree with that scientist that the earthquake in Haiti could have been caused by the United States in order to get oil, dan?

Steven Jones: Sofia got me looking at chemtrails for example. And I'm not ready to talk about that too much, I have actually made some observations. I have not (unintelligible) what's in those trails, but some of those do certainly last longer than others. And that's... I could go into that a little bit, but I think that that's a valid area and it's not 9/11 but it is truth.

http://mp3.wtprn.com/Barrett/0805/20080527_Tue_Barrett2.mp3

Do you agree with this scientist about contrails, dan?

Steven Jones: Thus, the marked hand symbol is connected to Deity-in particular with Itzamna, who died, went to the world of spirits and then was resurrected. All of this is reminiscent of Jesus Christ, supporting the claim of the Book of Mormon that New World inhabitants knew of Jesus long before Columbus arrived. There is much additional evidence, and the interested reader is pointed to reference.

The hypothesis that started my search, that Christ's "other sheep" would have artwork depicting deliberately marked hands, has led to a remarkable conclusion: Hands (and wrists) with clear holes or marks are depicted in the art as well as the hieroglyphic writings of the Maya of Middle America, dating from within about 200 years of the time of Christ. These hands are associated with Itzamna, a kindly Deity associated with healing and teaching the people. He is shown dying in Mayan art, later to be resurrected. Finally, the Maya await the return of this great resurrected Deity in the not-distant future.

These discoveries have provided me a deeper appreciation for the reality of the resurrection of Jesus and of His visit to "other sheep" who heard His voice and saw His wounded hands as did Thomas. My hope is that these new insights will encourage you to seriously consider the Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Christ. Why don't you start reading right away? The Apostle Paul said: "Prove all things. Hold fast that which is good." (I Thessalonians 5:21) Why not? I've done this and for me, the Book of Mormon is a remarkable new witness for Christ, standing as a companion to the Bible.

http://web.archive.org/web/20051124053614/http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/jones/rel491/handstext+and+figures.htm

So dan, do you agree with this scientist that Jesus visited Central America on his way to heaven?

Same goes to you, SA210. You want to put your faith in dan and these men because you have an e-grudge against me. You might want to reconsider.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol SA10 and his pathological inability to be incorrect. Must've picked that up from his hero, nbadan.

[Clipper Nation]

When will the truthers get it through their heads that nobody is going to watch their fucking 2-hour videos, full of hasty conjectures from blurry, grainy recordings and junk science? Hiding behind long-ass videos that you all KNOW no normal person will ever watch instead of clearly explaining your theories in laymans' terms just shows that you've got nothing....

[ChumpDumper]

When will the truthers get it through their heads that nobody is going to watch their fucking 2-hour videos, full of hasty conjectures from blurry, grainy recordings and junk science? Hiding behind long-ass videos that you all KNOW no normal person will ever watch instead of clearly explaining your theories in laymans' terms just shows that you've got nothing....The best part is when they start feeling cornered and vomit out a whole new four hours of video they demand you watch.

[Nbadan]

When will the truthers get it through their heads that nobody is going to watch their fucking 2-hour videos, full of hasty conjectures from blurry, grainy recordings and junk science? Hiding behind long-ass videos that you all KNOW no normal person will ever watch instead of clearly explaining your theories in laymans' terms just shows that you've got nothing....

Your an idiot...you would rather take the word of a guy like Chumpy than the hours of testimony from chemical. electrical and mechanical engineers, demolition experts, physicists, architects, pilots....

[Nbadan]

lol SA10 and his pathological inability to be incorrect. Must've picked that up from his hero, nbadan.

Yeah, I remember the last good point you made, let's see...

Oh, no I don't...

[Nbadan]

It's true Chump took a beating in this topic but he is still hanging in there and has brought up some major points that need to be addressed.

Typical deflection technique by Chumpy....attack the messenger when you've lost the battle of the message..

[Nbadan]

http://rt.com/usa/news/did-nano-thermite-take-down-the-wtc/?fullstory

So commie news is alright to use here after all.

:lol

[Nbadan]

Steven Jones: Another one that you might never have thought of, that I will be addressing this next little while is Haiti. Now Haiti you wouldn't think of as a generated crisis. But did you know that tremendous oil reserves have been found in the bay, in that area right around Port-au-Prince. Tremendous oil reserves reported in 2008 to be larger than the oil reserves of Venezuela, which is one of the largest oil producers in the world. So again is this a "natural" or "real" crisis or is it one of Biden's generated crises?

http://vimeo.com/9609513

Do you agree with that scientist that the earthquake in Haiti could have been caused by the United States in order to get oil, dan?

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or unrelated belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy,[2][3][4] more precisely an informal fallacy and an irrelevance.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Just sad, very sad...

[ChumpDumper]

So commie news is alright to use here after all.

:lolDirect quotes from it?

Absolutely.

And you didn't answer the question.


An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or unrelated belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy,[2][3][4] more precisely an informal fallacy and an irrelevance.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Just sad, very sad...Countering your fallacious appeal to authority fallacy. Steven Jones is neither an expert in this field nor does his non-theory enjoy anything approaching a consensus in the scientific community.

Which was just sad.

What else could I do? You never answer anything regarding the evidence or anything you believe really happened on 9/11.

Ever.

Look, I'll give you an example directly related to this thread. You spent all this time pimping a study that claims to have found nanothermite in WTC dust. Given that -- do you, Nbadan, believe that nanothermite was used to demolish the World Trade Center towers.

Yes or no.

I breathlessly await your squirming non-answer.

[DMC]

9/11: INTERCEPTED - Full Film

Simulated radar tracks, aircraft exceeding their max operating limits by more than 130-150 knots, inaccurate aircraft position reports, false aircraft target reports, aircraft converging -- flying virtually in formation with -- and then diverging from reported 9/11 aircraft, fighters launched in the wrong direction, aircraft seemingly still airborne after the alleged attack, poor communications, phones not working.... What happened on the morning of September 11, 2001? Why were our defenses ineffective? Pilots For 9/11 Truth analyze NORAD response, Audio recordings as well as Radar data provided by government agencies.

f6WSDxErgBE
If you've ever worked a flightline or jocked a jet you know that's a typical day.

[DMC]

lol thinking the Bush admin was smart enough to pull that off but couldn't plant WMDs in Iraq.

[Nbadan]

lol thinking the Bush admin was smart enough to pull that off but couldn't plant WMDs in Iraq.

Hey genius...that's the other thread

[Nbadan]

Look, I'll give you an example directly related to this thread. You spent all this time pimping a study that claims to have found nanothermite in WTC dust. Given that -- do you, Nbadan, believe that nanothermite was used to demolish the World Trade Center towers.

Yes or no.

I breathlessly await your squirming non-answer.

Who's squirming? I'm not absolutely sure mostly because I hate absolutes, but I think it is certainly possible that some type of nano-thermatic dust could have been used to bring down the WTC towers...unlike you, I'm not ready to rule it out....

[ChumpDumper]

Who's squirming? I'm not absolutely sure mostly because I hate absolutes, but I think it is certainly possible that some type of nano-thermatic dust could have been used to bring down the WTC towers...unlike you, I'm not ready to rule it out....What do you think most likely brought the towers down at this point?

[TeyshaBlue]

What do you think most likely brought the towers down at this point?

10,000 youtubes.

[mouse]

What do you think most likely brought the towers down at this point?

We do know it wasn't Gravity or fire.

[ChumpDumper]

We do know it wasn't Gravity or fire.If you believe that, then what do you believe it was?

[mouse]

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As much as I hate to say this, Chump is right. You have any idea how much it pains me to say that?


I cant think of anything more painful.

[mouse]

If you believe that, then what do you believe it was?

A new technology that is top secret. I do know the military has been experimenting with lasers and using microwaves and sound as weapons.

Don't forget employees were complaining about unusual construction and noise for weeks prior to the planned attack.