Good tidbit from Bill Simmons' mailbag about Scam Newton

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Unrelated: Are we sure Cam Newton is an elite quarterback right now? Are we sure he's not the Tyreke Evans of football, one of those Über-athletic guys who puts up fantasy numbers but can't be trusted against quality teams? I thought he was appallingly, shockingly, mind-blowingly atrocious last night. His career numbers right now: seven wins, 12 losses, 23 TDs, 22 picks, 787 rushing yards. Oh, and here were his seven victories: 2011 Tampa (twice), 2011 Washington, 2011 Indianapolis, 2011 Jacksonville, 2011 Houston (with T.J. Yates), 2012 Saints (with an interim interim coach). Not exactly a murderer's row. I'm not crossing him off or anything, just saying that Cam's next four games (at Atlanta, home for Seattle, home for Dallas, at Chicago) are suddenly looming as an "early fork in the road" test for him. His career record might be 7-16 a month from now. Yikes.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8407097/the-mailbag#8211referee-armageddon


Discuss.

[vander]

what I'd like to know, if there are any stat gurus here, is what percentage of starting QBs in the SB era have been black.

then one could just say- blacks: 15% (or whatever the number is) of the QBs, and 2% of the SB victories. and what more could be argued?

[Blake]

who called him elite to begin with?

[monosylab1k]

who called him elite to begin with?

I don't wanna name names, but Trill Clinton and Creepn for starters.

[jag]

He's a black QB so people have this weird thing where they build him up out of sympathy or some other weird shit. They want him to be good because he's black. Donovan McNabb's career

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Looks like more drama in Carolina...Steve Smith ripped Cam for acting like a soppy c_unt on the sidelines during the rout.

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol Cam Newton
:lol getting called out by Steve Smith
:lol dumb, emo black QB
:lol Panthers wasting away a #1 overall pick on a chimp QB
:lol Avante

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Scam Newton and his bagman
:lol Needs a spaceship to get on RG3's level

[Trill Clinton]

I don't wanna name names, but Trill Clinton and Creepn for starters.

link?:wakeup

[gaKNOW!blee]

I wouldnt consider him elite but I don't understand all the hate either...he's played 19 games.

The career record is also misleading...he was the first overall pick so of course he's gonna play on a shitty team to start his career.

[monosylab1k]

link?:wakeup

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195096


and Cam Newton is a beast. he deserves all the media nuthugging. he came in the league torching defenses like no rookie qb before.

[Trill Clinton]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195096

don't see where i called him elite. nice try tho.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Oh, so you're saying you didn't call him elite--just a QB without flaws:lmao


One would be hard pressed to find a flaw in Cam's game at this juncture in his career.

[DPG21920]

Trill looking like a simp right now, smh. Thought dude was over that.

[Trill Clinton]

Oh, so you're saying you didn't call him elite--just a QB without flaws:lmao

no i didn't call him elite. i made that post before his horrible game in wk3 and i clearly stated ”at this juncture”. you can try to imply that i said he was elite but i never did. c'mon doggie.


dpg hush.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Semantics will save you.

[Trill Clinton]

indeed

[DPG21920]

Trill - quit funking around and just admit Cam "I'll steal your laptop" Newton was a mistake by you.

[Edward]

:lol Chimp Clinton pretending he never liked Chimp Newton

[Edward]

what I'd like to know, if there are any stat gurus here, is what percentage of starting QBs in the SB era have been black.

then one could just say- blacks: 15% (or whatever the number is) of the QBs, and 2% of the SB victories. and what more could be argued?
It's still backwards logic that people say, "Well we haven't had very many black QBs during the superbowl era!" as if that's a positive for black QBs. The reason we haven't had very many black QBs during the SB era is because black QBs suck.

[DPG21920]

They don't suck (unless you only use SuperBowls).

[Creepn]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195096

Can you quote me please? Probably not.

[Creepn]

Yall crack me up how yall circle jerk when a black quarterback goes through a slump. If I did that after every white QB, my balls would've shriveled up years ago.

[DPG21920]

Ya, Brady, Brees, Rogers, Eli all go through a ton of slumps and have losing records.

[DPG21920]

Im not on the bash the "black qb" bandwagon - it's stupid and there are plenty of very talented black qbs

[Trill Clinton]

Trill - quit funking around and just admit Cam "I'll steal your laptop" Newton was a mistake by you.

a mistake how? he is a talented qb and one of the best young qb's in the game. i'm not going call him a scrub after a poor outing against one of the best defenses in the league, no sir.


:lol Chimp Clinton pretending he never liked Chimp Newton

:lol wigga please.

[Trill Clinton]

Yall crack me up how yall circle jerk when a black quarterback goes through a slump. If I did that after every white QB, my balls would've shriveled up years ago.
thank you!!!!

cam has a bad game against the defending champs and #teamwehateblackqb's come out in full force ready to call him a scrub. the hate is strong for young cam.

[DPG21920]

a mistake how? he is a talented qb and one of the best young qb's in the game. i'm not going call him a scrub after a poor outing against one of the best defenses in the league, no sir.



:lol wigga please.

You said he had no flaws to date. First of all - he stole a laptop - that's a character flaw. Secondly, he has a losing record, that's a football flaw. There are others so just admit you were wrong.

[Trill Clinton]

You said he had no flaws to date. First of all - he stole a laptop - that's a character flaw. Secondly, he has a losing record, that's a football flaw. There are others so just admit you were wrong.

lesigh...

smh..

lol everyone has a character flaw, we aren't perfect. as long as they don't rape or molest children i could give a fuck.

he was a rookie qb last year and has only played 3 games this year, give him time before writing him off.

[Trill Clinton]

dodging these troll attempts like a bawse

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1544035_o.gif

[DPG21920]

hold up simp - if anyone is jumping the gun it's you calling him a qb with no flaws and the best young qb in the game. How about you see if he can stop losing games, playing terrible and pouting then getting yelled at by his teammates before you crown this thief with the crown.

Ya dig?

[DPG21920]

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/57/603/603057.gif

[Trill Clinton]

hold up simp - if anyone is jumping the gun it's you calling him a qb with no flaws and the best young qb in the game. How about you see if he can stop losing games, playing terrible and pouting then getting yelled at by his teammates before you crown this theif with the crown.

Ya dig?

lol dpg i like you no homo.

he is the best young qb in the game at this juncture. he was offensive rookie of the year last year. there is only so much a black qb can do for their team before we stop pointing the finger at them.

what about that sorry ass defense that didn't even touch eli the other night?

i do agree he needs to mature and stop pouting on the sidelines.

bill simmons and the rest of #teamwehateblackqb's are jumping the gun on this one. dude had one bad game on prime time tv and everyone is ready to go for the jugular. its too early for that doggie.

[J.T.]

The real question is 10 years from now will Panthers fans curse Andrew Luck for staying in school another year kind of how Celtics fans (like Simmons) curse not winning the Duncan lottery?

[Creepn]

Panthers would be in a worse position if it wasn't even for Cam in the first place. He stepped their game up.

[J.T.]

Yeah but...

Luck's combine = Cam's combine

Luck's Wonderlic > Cam's Wonderlic

I'll take the clearly more intelligent white fellow with equal physical skills as the black fellow to QB my team any day.

[Trill Clinton]

Panthers would be in a worse position if it wasn't even for Cam in the first place. He stepped their game up.

http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg613/hairweavekilla1/19579.gif

[Trill Clinton]

fam no real nigga is going to take the wonderlic test serious when the white man is going to pay him millions if he makes a 6 or a 50.

[DPG21920]

lol dpg i like you no homo.

he is the best young qb in the game at this juncture. he was offensive rookie of the year last year. there is only so much a black qb can do for their team before we stop pointing the finger at them.

what about that sorry ass defense that didn't even touch eli the other night?

i do agree he needs to mature and stop pouting on the sidelines.

bill simmons and the rest of #teamwehateblackqb's are jumping the gun on this one. dude had one bad game on prime time tv and everyone is ready to go for the jugular. its too early for that doggie.

I would already put Luck and RGIII ahead of him. I am not dogging Cam either. It's just too early to spout off on him either way. I know you are reverse trolling the other trolls, but this just needed to be said.

I'm out.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

So the Panthers have improved enough with Cam to be drafting between 9-15 in the first round every year? Progress:tu

[Trill Clinton]

I would already put Luck and RGIII ahead of him. I am not dogging Cam either. It's just too early to spout off on him either way. I know you are reverse trolling the other trolls, but this just needed to be said.

I'm out.
later fam

[Creepn]

Yeah but...

Luck's combine = Cam's combine

Luck's Wonderlic > Cam's Wonderlic

I'll take the clearly more intelligent white fellow with equal physical skills as the black fellow to QB my team any day.

Lol fuck outta here with that wonderlicbullshit. :lol. That test is not even meant to be taken by the NFL in the first place.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Andy Dalton took a 4-12 team to 9-7 and a playoff berth--despite playing in a division with 2 powerhouses.

Ginger>Scam

[Trill Clinton]

So the Panthers have improved enough with Cam to be drafting between 9-15 in the first round every year? Progress:tu

you say that as if cam has been there for 5+ years.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

you say that as if cam has been there for 5+ years.
True, all we can go on is what we know:

He can't beat good teams

[Trill Clinton]

Andy Dalton took a 4-12 team to 9-7 and a playoff berth--despite playing in a division with 2 powerhouses.

Ginger>Scam
andy dalton didn't do it by himself doggie. i like dalton but he isn't better than cammy cam.

bengals have a much better team and coach than the panthers, real talk.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Cam-Newton-Closed-Eyes.jpg

[Trill Clinton]

true, all we can go on is what we know:

He can't beat good teams yet


ia

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

andy dalton didn't do it by himself doggie. i like dalton but he isn't better than cammy cam.

bengals have a much better team and coach than the panthers, real talk.
Nobody predicted the Bengals to win more than 4 games last year.

But he persevered.

[Creepn]

A study shows that the wonderlic has nothing at all, ZERO connection, of QB intelligence.

http://www.thesportjournal.org/article/intelligence-and-football-testing-differentials-collegiate-quarterback-passing-performance-a

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Who knows if the wonderlic is important or not. A bad wonderlic doesn't mean Cam is dumb, but repeatedly throwing passes to the guys in white jersies (like Thursday) is.

[J.T.]

Scroliosis it's not my fault white people grow up idolizing real musicians and actual talented (read: smart) people and thus become better professional QBs than black people who grow up worshipping people who almost purely got famous because they were thugs or because they wanted to stop being thugs. At the root of it all this is why whitey is better at playing quarterback. Because he's not trying to validate his race's right to play QB.

1 black president, 1 black Super Bowl QB... some things the white man just does better. I would never attempt to sell cocaine or win an olympic gold in a track event. Some things the black man just does better.

[Edward]

They don't suck (unless you only use SuperBowls).
Seeing that the object of playing in the NFL is to win a superbowl, I'd say that's pretty telling.

[Edward]

Lol fuck outta here with that wonderlicbullshit. :lol. That test is not even meant to be taken by the NFL in the first place.
Lemme guess, the wonderlic test is racially biased?

[J.T.]

Seeing that the object of playing in the NFL is to win a superbowl, I'd say that's pretty telling.

This is pretty much the truth right here.

The QB position gets the most credit for wins and the most blame for losses. It's not really fair, but it's how it is. The guy touches the ball on every offensive play, and if his team's defense is getting throttled then he has to match the other offense's production.

Lot's of QBs make the HOF on stats alone. Marino did not win the Super Bowl and is considered an all-time great. But the legendary QBs dominated in the Super Bowl at least once, most of them twice or more. This is why a guy like Peyton Manning, who has the stats to match Marino and Favre, wins the Super Bowl and isn't considered good enough because "Brady has three" or "Eli/Ben have two."

We are simply judging black QBs by the same criteria when you break it down, it's just that black QBs are historically not good at even getting to the Super Bowl, let alone winning it multiple times. This is the truth and anyone debating otherwise is clearly an apologist for black athletes. Blacks dominate the record books at most NFL skill positions, almost the entire NBA and even have some baseball heroes. It's not that we don't think they can be elite athletes, it's just that so far nothing shows they can be elite quarterbacks. And elite is a word that gets abused the fuck out of in today's sports fan universe. It means you are the best of the best of the best. Not just a No. 1 overall draft pick or a fantasy football darling. You gotta get to the playoffs, dominate them, get to the Super Bowl and dominate even harder there. Not an easy thing to do, black or white.

[Creepn]

I really don't see the difficulty here. Let's say Eagles makes the playoff and the rest of the other teams have white qbs, if Vick gets taken out, there goes that whole year for a black quarterback to win the superbowl. If even 2 white quarterbacks from the playoffs gets taken out, that still leaves about 8 teams with white qb's to win the superbowl.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

I really don't see the difficulty here. Let's say Eagles makes the playoff and the rest of the other teams have white qbs, if Vick gets taken out, there goes that whole year for a black quarterback to win the superbowl. If even 2 white quarterbacks from the playoffs gets taken out, that still leaves about 8 teams with white qb's to win the superbowl.
Are you autistic?

[Trill Clinton]

I really don't see the difficulty here. Let's say Eagles makes the playoff and the rest of the other teams have white qbs, if Vick gets taken out, there goes that whole year for a black quarterback to win the superbowl. If even 2 white quarterbacks from the playoffs gets taken out, that still leaves about 8 teams with white qb's to win the superbowl.

creepn, these white boys are shaking in their cowboy boots.

they can see the writing on the wall when it comes to the coveted qb position. its all they have left when it comes to skill positions. black qb's are finally starting to get a legit shot at qb in the NFL. the dual threat qb is starting to become popular and nobody does it like us(minus stevie young and aaron rodgers).

soon all they'll have to hang their hat on is the kicker and punter position:rollin

[DPG21920]

Not winning a superbowl does not mean you suck. That is just horrific logic.

[Creepn]

creepn, these white boys are shaking in their cowboy boots.

they can see the writing on the wall when it comes to the coveted qb position. its all they have left when it comes to skill positions. black qb's are finally starting to get a legit shot at qb in the NFL. the dual threat qb is starting to become popular and nobody does it like us(minus stevie young and aaron rodgers).

soon all they'll have to hang their hat on is the kicker and punter position:rollin

Lmao.

"Blacks make horrible punters because their chimp brains doesn't communicate with their feet. The wonderlic says so!!"

[Creepn]

Not winning a superbowl does not mean you suck. That is just horrific logic.

That doesn't seem like the consensus of your white brethren.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Lmao.

"Blacks make horrible punters because their chimp brains doesn't communicate with their feet. The wonderlic says so!!"
If Reggie Roby was so smart, why is he dead?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Not winning a superbowl does not mean you suck. That is just horrific logic.
But it does mean you're not a winner.

[mavs>spurs]

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/57/603/603057.gif

that gif is so annoying just like you

[leemajors]

creepn, these white boys are shaking in their cowboy boots.

they can see the writing on the wall when it comes to the coveted qb position. its all they have left when it comes to skill positions. black qb's are finally starting to get a legit shot at qb in the NFL. the dual threat qb is starting to become popular and nobody does it like us(minus stevie young and aaron rodgers).

soon all they'll have to hang their hat on is the kicker and punter position:rollin

i remember hearing this for the first time over 25 years ago

[DPG21920]

that gif is so annoying just like you

Who are you?

[DPG21920]

But it does mean you're not a winner.

To a certain degree.

[J.T.]

Not winning a superbowl does not mean you suck. That is just horrific logic.

Didn't say a SB ring is required to be considered good. It is required to be considered elite, and this day and age you need multiple since guys like Brady, Roethlisberger and Eli Manning have multiples and are still active. If you have mad stats and record breaking performances to back it up (Peyton, Brees) you can also be considered elite with just one. But bottom line is the ring is king.

[mavs>spurs]

Who are you?

your bff

[DPG21920]

your bff

My life sucks then. :lol

[mavs>spurs]

My life sucks then. :lol

there, there

[Bill_Brasky]

I really don't see the difficulty here. Let's say Eagles makes the playoff and the rest of the other teams have white qbs, if Vick gets taken out, there goes that whole year for a black quarterback to win the superbowl. If even 2 white quarterbacks from the playoffs gets taken out, that still leaves about 8 teams with white qb's to win the superbowl.

See:


It's still backwards logic that people say, "Well we haven't had very many black QBs during the superbowl era!" as if that's a positive for black QBs. The reason we haven't had very many black QBs during the SB era is because black QBs suck.

[benefactor]

I'm not sure why Creepn and Trill are so butthurt. There are tons of great black RB's and not a lot of white ones. No white person is going to argue this is not true because...well...it's just not true. There are tons of great white QB's and not a lot of black ones. No black person should feel the need to argue this is not true because...well...it's just not true.

Whites are not great RB's and blacks are not great QB's. There's nothing racist about truth.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm not sure why Creepn and Trill are so butthurt. There are tons of great black RB's and not a lot of white ones. No white person is going to argue this is not true because...well...it's just not true. There are tons of great white QB's and not a lot of black ones. No black person should feel the need to argue this is not true because...well...it's just not true.

Whites are not great RB's and blacks are not great QB's. There's nothing racist about truth.

There aren't alot of black QBs at any level really, let alone great ones, like there aren't alot of white RBs. That's not to say neither can't be great because the sample size is too small.

[benefactor]

There aren't alot of black QBs at any level really, let alone great ones, like there aren't alot of white RBs. That's not to say neither can't be great because the sample size is too small.
Sample size is small for a reason. One is good at one thing and the other is good at the other.

[Creepn]

We got Romo and Sanchez stinking it up. Where are the mexican qbs sucks threads at?

[benefactor]

I don't see many mexicans in here attempting to make a case for them...with the exception of mexican Cowboy fans.

[djohn2oo8]

Sample size is small for a reason. One is good at one thing and the other is good at the other.

Id say it would have to do more with work ethic than natural ability in some cases. Like coming out of hs and switching positions when they get to college.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

I'm pretty sure Mark Sanchez has more playoff wins than every black QB not named McNabb:lol

[Creepn]

Because there's never a thread lambasting mexicans saying you guys have too chimpy a brain to succeed in the position.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I really don't see the difficulty here. Let's say Eagles makes the playoff and the rest of the other teams have white qbs, if Vick gets taken out, there goes that whole year for a black quarterback to win the superbowl. If even 2 white quarterbacks from the playoffs gets taken out, that still leaves about 8 teams with white qb's to win the superbowl.
The fact there's only gonna be one playoff team with a black QB is a pretty big indictment on black QBs. You act like the lack of good black QBs in the NFL is bad luck and something that helps your argument.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

There aren't alot of black QBs at any level really, let alone great ones, like there aren't alot of white RBs. That's not to say neither can't be great because the sample size is too small.
The sample size being small is an indictment on black QBs and white RBs. The sample size is small because they suck at each respective position. Why is this simple concept so difficult to understand?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

We got Romo and Sanchez stinking it up. Where are the mexican qbs sucks threads at?
If the NFL forum had Mexican militants insisting Mexicans make great QBs, there would be.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Id say it would have to do more with work ethic than natural ability in some cases. Like coming out of hs and switching positions when they get to college.
So black people have a shitty work ethic which limits the amount of black QBs who make it to the NFL?

Again, I don't see why these are things that help the argument for black QBs.

[BUMP]

'uncanOwnsKo, with the late blitz, seeing dead red, leading with the crown of the helmet, twisting the facemask, flags flying everywhere, refs throwing their hats/shoes because they're out of flags, fight breaking out, teams having to be separated, ejected, and getting beer bottles thrown at him as he exits the playing field goods par per etc

[Creepn]

The fact there's only gonna be one playoff team with a black QB is a pretty big indictment on black QBs. You act like the lack of good black QBs in the NFL is bad luck and something that helps your argument.

No it's not. More of an indictment on the NFL.

[Creepn]

If the NFL forum had Mexican militants insisting Mexicans make great QBs, there would be.

Who?

[leemajors]

No it's not. More of an indictment on the NFL.

So the NFL is actively suppressing black qbs?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No it's not. More of an indictment on the NFL.
I'd love to hear the explanation behind this one.

[BUMP]

:lmao Creepn taking the Chumpdumper route and just throwing out random hypotheticals after the last retarded one got show down

[Lincoln]

My nigga RG3 has been good so far especially for a black QB. cant blame the 2 losses on him tbh, shit redskins defense allowing 30+ to the fuckin rams and bengals.

[Creepn]

So the NFL is actively suppressing black qbs?

Yup. It's subtle but it's there.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Yup. It's subtle but it's there.
:lmao

[benefactor]

Yup. It's subtle but it's there.
:lol

You can't be serious with this shit.

[Creepn]

:lol

You can't be serious with this shit.

Hey I'm agreeing with you! You said "There's a reason why the sample size is small." Because black QB's sucks right? If that is the reasoning within the nfl, then that is racism and/or prejudice.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I don't get why blacks are so stubborn about this. White people will freely admit we make horrible running backs, non-slot receivers, corners, safeties, etc.

[benefactor]

Hey I'm agreeing with you! You said "There's a reason why the sample size is small." Because black QB's sucks right? If that is the reasoning within the nfl, then that is racism and/or prejudice.
It has nothing to do with the NFL and everything to do with them just not being very good. If they were they could earn their spot and excel just like white QB's. Is it intelligence? Skill? All of that is up for debate. What is not up for debate is the racism card. They plain just aren't good enough.

[Creepn]

I don't get why blacks are so stubborn about this. White people will freely admit we make horrible running backs, non-slot receivers, corners, safeties, etc.

Alright. Tell me, why do black people make crappy quarterbacks then. If I see one kill word, I won't even finish reading your post.

[monosylab1k]

Alright. Tell me, why do black people make crappy quarterbacks then. If I see one kill word, I won't even finish reading your post.

There's no single reason why black QB's suck. Each case is different. But in the end numbers don't lie. And the numbers say that black QB's suck dick at winning Super Bowls.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Alright. Tell me, why do black people make crappy quarterbacks then. If I see one kill word, I won't even finish reading your post.
The reason(s) WHY black people suck at playing QB is mere theory/speculation. The mounds of historical evidence shows black people make crappy QBs. The reason why they suck is the fact they've had little to no success in the playoffs and there's only been a handful of black QBs who play at an elite level. Why that's the case....anyone's guess.

[Creepn]

I'll tell you guys why you see a history of this. The coaches then didn't develop black quarterbacks to be pocket passers. They were used as gimmicks just like you see what the Jets are doing with Tebow.

[benefactor]

I'll tell you guys why you see a history of this. The coaches then didn't develop black quarterbacks to be pocket passers. They were used as gimmicks just like you see what the Jets are doing with Tebow.
Cop out. Warren Moon was a great pocket passer. If they were great pocket passers as a whole instead of the random anomaly then they would be starting and winning at an elite level consistently.

[monosylab1k]

I'll tell you guys why you see a history of this. The coaches then didn't develop black quarterbacks to be pocket passers. They were used as gimmicks just like you see what the Jets are doing with Tebow.

:lmao blaming coaches? Let me guess, the racist coaches would rather lose games and get fired instead of coaching their black qb.

[monosylab1k]

Maybe black QB's are entitled to certain benefits to even the playing field. How about anytime a black QB completes a pass where he reads the defense correctly and completes an accurate pass in the pocket, he can opt to have extra yards awarded after the play. We'll call it Yardage Stamps. Every black QB will get a certain amount of Yardage Stamps on the first of the month during the season.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Maybe black QB's are entitled to certain benefits to even the playing field. How about anytime a black QB completes a pass where he reads the defense correctly and completes an accurate pass in the pocket, he can opt to have extra yards awarded after the play. We'll call it Yardage Stamps. Every black QB will get a certain amount of Yardage Stamps on the first of the month during the season.
:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

So the NFL is actively suppressing black qbs?

bruh stop tip toeing and say what you really feel

[Pelicans78]

The problem with Yardage Stamps is you can't use it for cigarettes or alcohol.

[Trill Clinton]

The problem with Yardage Stamps is you can't use it for cigarettes or alcohol.

1ytCEuuW2_A

[Pelicans78]

You also can't use them to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that right Trill?

[Trill Clinton]

You also can't use them to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that right Trill?

1ytCEuuW2_A

[monosylab1k]

You also can't use them to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that right Trill?

:lmao

[chunticakes]

playing in the nfl is like modern day slavery - adrian peterson.

[Creepn]

:lmao blaming coaches? Let me guess, the racist coaches would rather lose games and get fired instead of coaching their black qb.

Uh ya. There are plenty of times where coaches would change an excellent black pocket passer coming into the nfl into a gimmick for certian plays.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

^Start naming examples.


Be specific.

[benefactor]

There were no "excellent black pocket passers"...only wide receivers/kick returners that had a little bit of throwing ability. The coaches didn't do anything to make them bad, they just never were that good in the first place.

It's no one else's fault. Blacks are not good QB's as a whole.

[DPG21920]

There are plenty of good black QB's. Very talented ones. Just because you don't win a SB, does not mean you aren't good. There are a lot of great players that don't win titles in all of sports.

[monosylab1k]

There are plenty of good black QB's. Very talented ones. Just because you don't win a SB, does not mean you aren't good. There are a lot of great players that don't win titles in all of sports.

How many great Quarterbacks? Marino and.......?

[DPG21920]

Jim Kelly, Moon

[monosylab1k]

Kelly is debatable, Moon was never elite.

[DPG21920]

Point is, not winning a title does not mean you aren't good - universally across all positions and all sports there are plenty of really good players that don't win it all.

[monosylab1k]

Thanks for not dropping that Wes

[monosylab1k]

rofl wrong thread. Okay Moon. How many other great non SB winning black QBs can you name? McNair and.......?

[Trill Clinton]

Point is, not winning a title does not mean you aren't good - universally across all positions and all sports there are plenty of really good players that don't win it all.

thank you

[monosylab1k]

thank you

Name every "really good" black QB in NFL history.

This should be hilarious. I fully expect Akili Smith to show up on this list.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:crythe wacist NFL is why there have been so few good black QBs:cry

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

^Start naming examples.


Be specific.
:lol I like how this got ignored

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Jerry Reese and Ozzie Newsome are successful, SB-winning black GMs that drafted white franchise QBs for a reason...they must be racist

[monosylab1k]

McNair, Cunningham, Moon (who is technically black but played as white as it gets).......and who else?

[Trill Clinton]

Name every "really good" black QB in NFL history.



name every "really good" white rb, lb, cb, wr, te, db and i'll name every
"really good" black qb.

[monosylab1k]

name every "really good" white rb, lb, cb, wr, te, db and i'll name every
"really good" black qb.

You act like white ppl lie to themselves about how much we suck at those positions. We don't. We fully admit it. Steve Largent and not much else. We don't have to be dishonest about it.

Now you try.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol as usual Trill resorts to strawman arguments once he's cornered

[Trill Clinton]

lol i'm cornered? if ya'll want the qb position that bad. fine, go ahead. take the kicker an punter position with you lol.

its just funny to me to see ya'll trying so hard to hang on to the last skill position that we haven't taken over, yet.

[monosylab1k]

So you admit black qb's suck like white rb's do?

[Trill Clinton]

You act like white ppl lie to themselves about how much we suck at those positions. We don't. We fully admit it. Steve Largent and not much else. We don't have to be dishonest about it.

Now you try.

i'm not ignorant to the fact that there are black qb's that suck. i'm not here making a case for the quincy carters and the akili smith's of the world.

my point is all black qb's don't suck. you can try to troll me all you want but it aint gone happen doggie. vick, rg3, cammy cam, russell wilson and aaron rodgers are the future, no lie.

[Trill Clinton]

So you admit black qb's suck like white rb's do?

no, some black qb's suck. all white rb's suck, big diff.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Vick is the future at 32 y/o and avg'g 3 picks a game?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol Trill still trying to claim Aaron Rogers as a black QB

:lol Vick doesn't suck? You miss the Iggles game today?

[monosylab1k]

no, some black qb's suck. all white rb's suck, big diff.

No.

John Riggins and Larry Csonka, two SB winning startingwhite RB's. more than SB winning starting black QBs.

White RBs > Black QBs

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

As usual Chung is complete dog shit in coverage.

[chunticakes]

lol aaron rodgers is as black as calvin johnson is white.

truth is blacks are seemingly predisposed to be bad qbs. thats not necessarily a bad thing though trill, they have those double calve muscles which makes them superb rbs/wrs.

[Trill Clinton]

riggins and csonka? who dat?

vick is a beast and HOF bound, stop it.

aaron rodgers great great grandaddy was 1/2 black. one drop rule is in effect.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Vick HOF Bound???:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[chunticakes]

so aaron rodgers is albino then?

[chunticakes]

lol the only hof vick is getting in to is the dog fighting hof.

[monosylab1k]

riggins and csonka? who dat?

vick is a beast and HOF bound, stop it.

aaron rodgers great great grandaddy was 1/2 black. one drop rule is in effect.

LOL Riggins was only relevant back during the one time a porch monkey won a title at QB :lol

[Trill Clinton]

LOL Riggins was only relevant back during the one time a porch monkey won a title at QB :lol


the bold is the exact reason me and creepn are making ya'll our sons.

ya'll are too emotionally invested in the qb position that you're having to go as low as to call a superbowl winning, successful african american man a porch monkey, smh.

could have sworn you posted in the a thread about kanye's album(LOLOLOL) and now here you are calling us porch monkey's. which one is it, do you admire us or hate us? pick a side doggie.

and i looked up that white boy riggins, nothing more than a poor man's payton hillis. not impressed. anymore white rb's?

[J.T.]

and i looked up that white boy riggins, nothing more than a poor man's payton hillis. not impressed. anymore white rb's?

I watched Michael Vick play QB today, nothing more than a black man's Tom Brady who can't even throw the ball to the right team.

[J.T.]

ya'll are too emotionally invested in the qb position that you're having to go as low as to call a superbowl winning, successful african american man a porch monkey, smh.

could have sworn you posted in the a thread about kanye's album(LOLOLOL) and now here you are calling us porch monkey's. which one is it, do you admire us or hate us? pick a side doggie.


lol rap music

life is hard
niggas be dyin and shit
lets talk about it whilst backed by african tribal drum beats
check out my flows
we gon be youtube famous

[monosylab1k]

the bold is the exact reason me and creepn are making ya'll our sons.

ya'll are too emotionally invested in the qb position that you're having to go as low as to call a superbowl winning, successful african american man a porch monkey, smh.

could have sworn you posted in the a thread about kanye's album(LOLOLOL) and now here you are calling us porch monkey's. which one is it, do you admire us or hate us? pick a side doggie.

and i looked up that white boy riggins, nothing more than a poor man's payton hillis. not impressed. anymore white rb's?

And i'm not impressed with Doug Williams who lucked into a title like a Coltrane who finds a food stamp card on the ground, but i'm not taking his title away from him.

[chunticakes]

yolo nigga.

[Trill Clinton]

lol rap music

life is hard
niggas be dyin and shit
lets talk about it whilst backed by african tribal drum beats
check out my flows
we gon be youtube famous

:sleep

[Trill Clinton]

I watched Michael Vick play QB today, nothing more than a black man's Tom Brady who can't even throw the ball to the right team.

rg3 and vick>>>>>andrew luck:wakeup

[Trill Clinton]

yolo nigga.

:sleep

[J.T.]

rg3 and vick>>>>>andrew luck:wakeup

Yes, RG3 and Vick are definitely blacker QBs than Andrew Luck