Spurs: NBA 2K13 Ratings

[007nites]

Timmy: 87
Manu: 87
Tony: 86
Sjax: 78
Leonard: 76
Blair: 72

LA

Howard: 95
Bryant: 93
Gasol: 87
Nash: 87

http://nbasky.com/more-nba-2k13-players-ratings/#.UF4KeY2PUZk

[dylankerouac]

Is the xbox360 online version better than the ps3 version? PS3 online seems to have lots of bugs and has tons of areas where it can be improved, plus Sony's general online and chatting support sucks.

[Juggity]

Tim, Tony, Manu, all above Dirk.

[Venti Quattro]

Is the xbox360 online version better than the ps3 version? PS3 online seems to have lots of bugs and has tons of areas where it can be improved, plus Sony's general online and chatting support sucks.

I've also seen the light, I'm going with the XBox version.

[8FOR!3]

This isn't clear representation of how bad Tony Parker will burn Steve Nash this year. Our advantage against LA is depth though.

[DPG21920]

So our best player is ranked below our 2nd and 3rd best players. Seems legit.

[TE]

dpg, you referring to leonard amirite?

[sananspursfan21]

Tony should be: 90
Kawhi should be: 80
Gasol should be: 82

i suppose the rest are ok. they really shortchanged tp.... again

[TimDunkem]

Leonard is a little underrated.

[TE]

yeah, as a regular season player TP is most def rated higher than an 86...

Kwahi should be low 80's.


Gasol and Nash are not 87's.

[jon123spurs]

Kawhi should he rated higher than Jax imho. Also Parker should be higher than Nash. I would agree 87 for Nash a couple years ago but now no.

[TD 21]

So our best player is ranked below our 2nd and 3rd best players. Seems legit.

Duncan and Ginobili are more well rounded, though, so they rank higher in more categories, which obviously boosts the overall rating. Guys who aren't as well rounded, like Parker, Nowitzki, etc., are never rated where you'd rank them if you were ranking the best players in the game. In fact, they're often overrated in some categories just to boost their overall rating to where it's close to where you'd rank them.

Then there's the question of whether Parker is definitively the Spurs best player. Advanced stats would tell you he not only isn't their best player, he's not even their second best player. I'm not saying I believe that, but I do believe that in the case of the Spurs and Celtics, you could make an argument for three players.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Tony should be at 88. Kawhi & Jax ratings should at least be swapped. Nash should be 82 overall & Gasol 84. cant do much more than laugh at kobes rating.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Duncan and Ginobili are more well rounded, though, so they rank higher in more categories, which obviously boosts the overall rating. Guys who aren't as well rounded, like Parker, Nowitzki, etc., are never rated where you'd rank them if you were ranking the best players in the game. In fact, they're often overrated in some categories just to boost their overall rating to where it's close to where you'd rank them.
Exactly.

Don't read too much into player ratings. Player attributes in the game have more to do with the rating than the actual real life player.

[dylankerouac]

I've also seen the light, I'm going with the XBox version.

Thanks. I was hoping for some more thoughts on this, as I will need to repurchase Xbox live. Hopefully they add some online features and stats.

Also, I agree that Tony and Kawhi should be ranked higher. Maybe they will up Kawhi as the season goes on if he shows some dominance.

[therealtruth]

Parker is the easiest guy to play against in NBA 2K. I always just back off of him and he never makes me pay.

[dylankerouac]

Parker is the easiest guy to play against in NBA 2K. I always just back off of him and he never makes me pay.

What do you play on?

[crc21209]

Yeah I love Timmy and Manu but they shouldnt be rated above TP based off of what happened last season. Tony should be at 90. Tim-87. Manu-86, 87 or so. Kawhi should AT LEAST be an 80. No way in hell is Kobe at 93. He should be at 89 or so, his time has passed. Gasol should be an 85, and Nash should be an 80-82.

[dylankerouac]

Kobe getting more welfare. Nothing to see here.

[sananspursfan21]

Parker is the easiest guy to play against in NBA 2K. I always just back off of him and he never makes me pay.

he doesn't have the same shooting touch in the game :/

[TDMVPDPOY]

TP is a fkn scrub in games man, dude basically cant shoot for peanuts when ur using him...

[racm]

Not surprised. Spurs aren't a video game team anyway; their sum is greater than the parts (and Pop's minutes management and team-focused basketball means that fantasy stats which play a role in game rankings are pointless).

tl;dr if the Spurs started stat-padding they'd be better in 2k

[ElNono]

Don't forget to use B, B, B, A, Down, Down, Up, Left for Infinite Turbo

[hooperflash]

Y'all suck with TP then, he shoots lights out if you know his release. Ratings don't mean shit, if you're good on the sticks you'll win... I told D.Green that I use the Spurs for 2K & it ain't a problem for me..

[mavs>spurs]

anyone have 2k12 on xbox? lets play

[100%duncan]

Kawhi and Jax should be in the 80's. TD-85, TP-90, Manu-86.

[mavs>spurs]

Realistically, it's duncan 81 parker 87 manu 85

they old

[FkLA]

Every single year you idiots cry about why Parker is rated so low. Hes a PG, shit like outside shooting and 3 pt shooting is a big deal for that position and lets be honest the guys shot sucks for a PG.

[crc21209]

Realistically, it's duncan 81 parker 87 manu 85

they old

:rolleyes

[crc21209]

Every single year you idiots cry about why Parker is rated so low. Hes a PG, shit like outside shooting and 3 pt shooting is a big deal for that position and lets be honest the guys shot sucks for a PG.

He has one of the best mid-range J's in the game for a PG, wtf have you been watching the last couple of seasons?

[Venti Quattro]

Kawhi and Jax should be in the 80's.

lol no

Kawhi would be in the 75-78 bracket at best, Jax in the 77-79.

I don't get how Manu gets a higher rating than Tony Parker when the latter went HAM on the season, despite Gms 3-6 of the WCF.

[flipspursfan]

I would honestly rank them this:
Timmy - 84
Manu - 85
Tony - 86
Jax - 79
Kawhi - 78
Danny - 75
Diaw - 79
Tiago - 78

[Venti Quattro]

Timmy - 84
Manu - 85
Tony - 86
85 Tim
85 Manu
88 Tony

If they gave a Nash an 87, then Tony Parker should be at least slightly higher in the rating.


Jax - 79
Kawhi - 78
Fair ratings


Danny - 75
Diaw - 79
Tiago - 78

lol no. Green and Diaw are in the high 60's to low 70's, while Tiago is surely mid-60 quality.

[sananspursfan21]

Every single year you idiots cry about why Parker is rated so low. Hes a PG, shit like outside shooting and 3 pt shooting is a big deal for that position and lets be honest the guys shot sucks for a PG.

very reliable midrange jumper and the ability to score like he does makes him worthy of a 90. has solid defensive skills (when he tries), top 5 rim finisher, converts crazy circus shots i haven't seen since iverson. i think he's worthy of a 90

[flipspursfan]

85 Tim
85 Manu
88 Tony

If they gave a Nash an 87, then Tony Parker should be at least slightly higher in the rating.


Fair ratings



lol no. Green and Diaw are in the high 60's to low 70's, while Tiago is surely mid-60 quality.

Yeah,I might've probably overrated Green, Diaw and Tiago. Looking back, I'd give Diaw and Green 72s while Tiago a 67.

I honestly think though, that Timmy should be a point lower than Manu just cause he really lost lots of what he used to dominate with. If that's the case with Nash, then I agree with your rating of Tony.

[TimDunkem]

All of the Spurs stats are more or less the same as their real-life counterparts in a simulated season with these ratings I have for them (although a highly skilled player can make anyone look like a star in-game):

Tim: 86
Tony: 84
Manu: 86
Kawhi: 82
Jackson: 78
Diaw: 74
Blair: 72
Green: 72
Neal: 72 (drops down to 66 when switched to the PG position :lol)
Mills: 72
Splitter: 70
De Colo: 68
Bonner: 64
Brown: 67
Joseph : 65

[FkLA]

He has one of the best mid-range J's in the game for a PG, wtf have you been watching the last couple of seasons?

His shot has always been inconsistent, its far from being one of the best midrange Js in the league. Its the reason hes so easily neutralized in the playoffs, pack the paint on him and take your chances with him shooting jumpers...that strategy has worked against him. He shoots so many midrange jumpers because he doesnt have range past that not because hes so good at them.

[mabrignani]

IMO Kawhi's ranking on 2k12 is on point, but they make him too good....almost like lebron 2.0

[racm]

IMO Kawhi's ranking on 2k12 is on point, but they make him too good....almost like lebron 2.0

That's the funny thing. He's a good slasher and adept at the corner 3, which is why his TS% is eye-popping for a rookie. Add to that his good rebounding and you have someone already better than Shawn Marion in the scoring department.

[mavs>spurs]

anyone have 2k12 on xbox? lets play

so i guess none of you sissy spur fans want it?

[widowmaker]

so i guess none of you sissy spur fans want it?

Hop on that PS3 and ill put it on ya.

[DPG21920]

so i guess none of you sissy spur fans want it?

Ask your real life friends, damn.

[widowmaker]

I have no problem playing with the spurs on 2k. You always end up seeing the same teams anyway. Miami, OKC, lakers, NY, Boston, and every nos and then clippers, pacers, and dallas I got a lineup set for each one of those teams but as the game wears on I'm more than likely running small ball with Parker, Manu, Leonard, jack, and Duncan.

[ALVAREZ6]

lol no

Kawhi would be in the 75-78 bracket at best, Jax in the 77-79.

I don't get how Manu gets a higher rating than Tony Parker when the latter went HAM on the season, despite Gms 3-6 of the WCF.

Reliability really doesn't affect a video game ranking very much. That's what holds Manu back in real basketball. Video games assume all players are at their constant prime, and there's always a huge lag in the reaction to players getting old.

For example, in recent 2k versions you can still do crazy explosive and athletic dunks with Kobe that he simply cannot do in real life.

Given both are healthy and playing the same amount of minutes, Manu is a bigger total factor than Tony. Defense is half of the game, and of course Manu is probably defensively overrated in the game (because of that lag), it boosts his ranking vs. Tony. Both players can drive, both are similar from midrange (Manu prob slightly better), and Manu clearly better at 3PT shooting and passing compared to Tony.

[InRareForm]

2K ratings :lol

[mavs>spurs]

Ask your real life friends, damn.

you weren't online

[Kidd K]

Timmy: 87 (surprised it's still this high)
Manu: 87 (underrated)
Tony: 86 (underrated just a little)
Sjax: 78 (about right)
Leonard: 76
Blair: 72

LA

Howard: 95 (overrated, and I expect this to drop when he doesn't perform well due to recovering back)
Bryant: 93 (overrated by at least 3 points. Most likely his undeserved defensive stats are what's keeping him this high. Getting the legend boost)
Gasol: 87 (about right, maybe a tad underrated)
Nash: 87 (even with the no D'? Surprising)

http://nbasky.com/more-nba-2k13-players-ratings/#.UF4KeY2PUZk

Added my comments about it. I think in general Kobe doesn't deserve to be any higher than a flat 90 anymore. He's had the same 2k stats for years now despite the irl decline.

And Manu. . .I'm surprised he's that low when he has such an overall good game, and his main issue is his lack ofdurability. . . which is a stat and doesn't effect a player's overall rating.

I'm guessing they probably nerfed his athleticism and defensive stats even though he's better defensively than Kobe (when they play eachother, he still guards Kobe while Kobe hides on Leonard/RJ. . .lol.)

[racm]

That's because video game stats reflect per game stats, not real skill. Kobe's chucking = more PPG = better rating.

[Kidd K]

That's because video game stats reflect per game stats, not real skill. Kobe's chucking = more PPG = better rating.

Sadly, yeah. Then they overrate the hell out of his defensive skills and claim he's a super talent. . .even though in the 20 or so Lakers games I watched last year, I didn't see Kobe have a single good consistent defensive performance for any of those games despite always guarding the worst perimeter player on the floor at all times.

[ohmwrecker]

Duncan and Ginobili are more well rounded, though, so they rank higher in more categories, which obviously boosts the overall rating. Guys who aren't as well rounded, like Parker, Nowitzki, etc., are never rated where you'd rank them if you were ranking the best players in the game.

That doesn't explain Howard's 95.

[TD 21]

That doesn't explain Howard's 95.

How doesn't it? He is well rounded. Outside of anything having to do with range shooting and passing, what wouldn't he rate well in? Obviously, he's off the charts in anything having to do with physical tools. Then throw in his inside game, rebounding and shot blocking and it makes total sense that he'd be a top three rated player.

[ohmwrecker]

Outside of anything having to do with range shooting and passing

Or ball handling, or perimeter d, or on ball d . . .

[TD 21]

Or ball handling, or perimeter d, or on ball d . . .

Yeah, I forgot ball handling. Anyway, the point remains. There's numerous categories he ranks well into the 90s in, there's numerous other categories that he ranks well in for a center (like perimeter/on ball defense) and there's only a few where he doesn't rank well in and the majority of them are not essential for a center.

Keep in mind, not every category is weighted the same (in relation to the overall rating). Certain categories count for more than others. So say he's a 90-something in defensive awareness. That has a lot more bearing on his overall rating than if he's a 40-something in ball handling.

[sananspursfan21]

Or ball handling, or perimeter d, or on ball d . . .

well i'm pretty sure the game takes in to consideration that ball handling isn't as necessary for a center, neither is perimeter d. obviously, i've yet to play 2k13 but in 2k12, if you create a player for instance, you create a center and put his ballhandling rating at a 50, it doesn't affect his overall nearly as much as it would if you created a point guard. try creating a pg or sg and lower his his ball handling and perimeter d down and his overall should drop like a hammer compared to a big man

i could be wrong, but it seems that way on my 12

[sananspursfan21]

Yeah, I forgot ball handling. Anyway, the point remains. There's numerous categories he ranks well into the 90s in, there's numerous other categories that he ranks well in for a center (like perimeter/on ball defense) and there's only a few where he doesn't rank well in and the majority of them are not essential for a center.

Keep in mind, not every category is weighted the same (in relation to the overall rating). Certain categories count for more than others. So say he's a 90-something in defensive awareness. That has a lot more bearing on his overall rating than if he's a 40-something in ball handling.

oh, wait, i posted the exact same thing after you...whoops

[DesignatedT]

Played the demo. Really like how it felt.

[Venti Quattro]

Played the demo. Really like how it felt.

Did you have a good grope?

[ohmwrecker]

If there is a center with above average passing and/or handling skills, the game should account for that and it should be reflected in the rankings. Don't ya think?

[therealtruth]

Sadly, yeah. Then they overrate the hell out of his defensive skills and claim he's a super talent. . .even though in the 20 or so Lakers games I watched last year, I didn't see Kobe have a single good consistent defensive performance for any of those games despite always guarding the worst perimeter player on the floor at all times.

Kobe gets by on reputation on defense more than anything. People just don't go at him enough that much but if enough people did it would be more obvious he isn't that good.