ESPN Player Rankings

[Darth_Pelican]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8428091/2012-nba-player-rankings

Top 20

20. LaMarcus Aldridge
19. Steve Nash
18. Chris Bosh
17. Carmelo Anthony
16. Tony Parker
15. Pau Gasol
14. Blake Griffin
13. Andrew Bynum
12. Rajon Rondo
11. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Deron Williams
9. Russell Westbrook
8. Dwyane Wade
7. Kevin Love
6. Kobe Bryant

1-5 is still TBA. Remaining players are CP3, Dwight, Durant, Rose, & Lebron.

[Venti Quattro]

Dwight
Lebron
Durant
Chris Paul

Who am I missing?

[Darth_Pelican]

Dwight
Lebron
Durant
Chris Paul

Who am I missing?

SAT's

[Venti Quattro]

SAT's

Ow yeah, he might probably come in 5 because of his injury.

I predict the ranking to be 5 Rose, 4 Paul, 3 Howard, 2 Durant, 1 James.

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol stat hog Kevin Love ranked higher than Dirk.

[Venti Quattro]

I wonder how Rose got into the Top 5 when he was injured half of the time.

[whitemamba]

kobe #6 :lmao

:lolespn

[Jodelo]

kobe #6 :lmao

:lolespn

True, should be lower.

[lefty]

Yeah Kobe should be 15
And Duncan 14

[AussieFanKurt]

:lmao Tony Parker at 16

[TDMVPDPOY]

williams, griffin and gasol have no business on that list

[dylankerouac]

The only question is who is 3 and who is 4.

[Ashy Larry]

kobe #6 :lmao

:lolespn


launching at a whopping 43%, I say that's fine ........

43% for a shooting guard is sub-par

[LkrFan]

Yeah Kobe should be 15
And Duncan 14

:lol @ Kobe even being in the conversation of top 10 in his 170th year. And y'all call him a TOSB. :lol

[LkrFan]

4 players from the Lakers are top 19. :lol

#WINNING

[Lincoln]

:lmao how the fuck is dirk behind Williams, love

[Lincoln]

You could even argue he is above kobe

[Lincoln]

Westbrook*

[LkrFan]

At this stage, Bynum > _irk.

[Lincoln]

:lol we will see how well Bynum does when he faces constant double teams and all the defensive attention this season faggot

[LkrFan]

:lol we will see how well Bynum does when he faces constant double teams and all the defensive attention this season faggot

:lol

[irishock]

Dirk will crawl back into the top 8 this year with a full offseason of preparation.

[Lincoln]

Yeah I expect dirk to have a strong year right aroun 50% shooting and 23/7

[Ace]

How Wade has fallen :depressed

[Latarian Milton]

retarded list overall. the pseudo pundits make good $ w/ little to none knowledge of the game and yet people still buy their bullshit. they even make harlemSheat look decent with his lists tbh

[racm]

Gasol in the top 20? :lmao

[LkrFan]

Yeah I expect dirk to have a strong year right aroun 50% shooting and 23/7

With no Kidd serving him up assists, no Jet taking pressure off him, diminished athleticism and a shit roster? Good luck with that. :lol

[DMC]

1. James
2. Durant
3. Howard
4. Paul
5. Rose

[Latarian Milton]

With no Kidd serving him up assists, no Jet taking pressure off him, diminished athleticism and a shit roster? Good luck with that. :lol

it's hardly a shitty roster imho, an upgrade over last season at the very least, and they're getting younger w/o making too many drastic changes at one time which would otherwise hurt the team's chemistry

[da_suns_fan]

kobe #6 :lmao

:lolespn

Evidently, youre clueless as to how badly Kobe shot the ball last year.

Im sure it was his teammates' fault.

[Kidd K]

My guess:


5: Rose
4: Paul
3: Howard
2: Durant
1: LeBron

LeBron being the no brainer #1 for like, at least 2 years now. Maybe 3-4.

Durant only above Howard for the gratuitous "best player on the team that got to the finals but didn't win" ranking placement. No worse than 3-4 anyway, so not a big deal for him to get a slightly higher rank.

Paul above Rose because of Rose's injury. Would've been arguable either way otherwise. Tbh, I'm surprised they still ranked him that high even with it. Glad to see that for Rose.

[Venti Quattro]

My guess:

5: Rose
4: Paul
3: Howard
2: Durant
1: LeBron

Really? Are you sure you didn't copy mine and DMC's ranking?

[Kidd K]

Really? Are you sure you didn't copy mine and DMC's ranking?

I didn't read anyone else's rankings. I usually don't when I open ranking threads until I make my post.

If you had the same ones, then I guess we agree. But copying someone else's opinion in the last shit I'd ever do on this forum.

[Technique]

The ESPN list is more off reputation than current play ability.

Current top 10 list would be (the list where winning a championship 10 years ago wouldn't matter)

10. Parker
9. Westbrook
8. Wade
7. Love
6. Deron
5. Carmelo
4. Paul
3. Howard
2. Durant
1. LeBron

[Lincoln]

Does LkrFan really Think last years roster was better than this years? :lmao this is the most versatile offensive lineup dirk has had in a LONG time which will only open him up. Just in the starting lineup alone, 3 other players can create (Darren, Mayo, Kaman)...

Last year the only other player that could create was Jet and Delonte :lmao

My god you really are retarded

[BUMP]

The ESPN list is more off reputation than current play ability.

Current top 10 list would be (the list where winning a championship 10 years ago wouldn't matter)

10. Parker
9. Westbrook
8. Wade
7. Love
6. Deron
5. Carmelo
4. Paul
3. Howard
2. Durant
1. LeBron

I thought Carmelo shitting a brick in the 1st round last year would lead you to ease up on the deepthroating but I guess that's not the case

[LkrFan]

Does LkrFan really Think last years roster was better than this years? :lmao this is the most versatile offensive lineup dirk has had in a LONG time which will only open him up. Just in the starting lineup alone, 3 other players can create (Darren, Mayo, Kaman)...

Last year the only other player that could create was Jet and Delonte :lmao

My god you really are retarded

I didn't say your roster this year is not better than last year's. I said it is a shit roster. You guys have some MLE-type players on it with an aging _irk. I'm guessing 48-34 is your absolute ceiling with an expected 1st round exit.

Darren is a nice pick up. Ditto for Mayo. But Caveman/_irk frontcourt ain't scaring nobody. :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

What? Where's the great Tim Duncan?

[dirk4mvp]

With no Kidd serving him up assists, no Jet taking pressure off him, diminished athleticism and a shit roster? Good luck with that. :lol

Are you really retarded or just good at pretending to be?

Can you look at Dirk's numbers the past 10 years and clearly distinguish when he had someone baby feeding him assists and when he didn't?

[LkrFan]

Are you really retarded or just good at pretending to be?

Can you look at Dirk's numbers the past 10 years and clearly distinguish when he had someone baby feeding him assists and when he didn't?

WGAF what _irk did the last 10 years? Fact: the 2012-2013 Mavs won't get past the 2nd round at best this year. Just like old times. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8428091/2012-nba-player-rankings

Top 20

20. LaMarcus Aldridge
19. Steve Nash
18. Chris Bosh
17. Carmelo Anthony
16. Tony Parker
15. Pau Gasol
14. Blake Griffin
13. Andrew Bynum
12. Rajon Rondo
11. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Deron Williams
9. Russell Westbrook
8. Dwyane Wade
7. Kevin Love
6. Kobe Bryant

1-5 is still TBA. Remaining players are CP3, Dwight, Durant, Rose, & Lebron.


Rankings are nothing but a couch potato's wet dream..they never did a single thing for me...I don't care if Kobe and Dwight are ranked in the 100 and 101...Rankings don't win titles...teams do and last I checked Kobe has 5 in his era...

Solly Cholly dat's just da way it is

[dirk4mvp]

I'm really excited that you take so much pride in a sports franchise that doesn't know you exist in order to fulfill your pointless existence.

[Koolaid_Man]

I'm really excited that you take so much pride in a sports franchise that doesn't know you exist in order to fulfill your pointless existence.


I will presume you're talking to me...well why don't you take a nice quiet walk with me in the park as I explain...

I've met Kobe twice, D-fish numerous times...Shaq once, Jordan Farmar twice, Robert Horry numerous times, Samaki Walker numerous times, Lamar Odom at house party in NYC...Allen Iverson and KG in Vegas...I played ball with God Shamgod...I could go on and on of players I've met...just because your broke ass can't get around don't mean everyone else can't....

dude you have no idea who I am...

I'm muthafucking Koolaid :lol now...excuse me our walk is over

[LkrFan]

I'm really excited that you take so much pride in a sports franchise that doesn't know you exist in order to fulfill your pointless existence.

You could say that about the vast majority of all fans. :rolleyes

M:lolvs

[dirk4mvp]

dude you have no idea who I am...

A fat guy from Houston.

[Koolaid_Man]

You could say that about the vast majority of all fans. :rolleyes

M:lolvs


do me a favor...next time you run across that faggot ass Clipper Nation fan tell him I said:


Nick Young > Jamal Crawford, Lamar Odom, Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, and Chauncey Billups..

Those stupid fucking Clippers let him go back to Philly...now they're left with a bunch of inconsistent ass chuckers :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

A fat guy from Houston.


one could wish...maybe then my life wouldn't be so complicated...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1Pp6kOqbc&feature=related

[LkrFan]

do me a favor...next time you run across that faggot ass Clipper Nation fan tell him I said:


Nick Young > Jamal Crawford, Lamar Odom, Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, and Chauncey Billups..

Those stupid fucking Clippers let him go back to Philly...now they're left with a bunch of inconsistent ass chuckers :lol

:rollin :lmao :rollin

Yeah they'll regret letting Nick go for real.

[racm]

WGAF what _irk did the last 10 years? Fact: the 2012-2013 Mavs won't get past the 2nd round at best this year. Just like old times. :lol

There's a good chance they miss the playoffs altogether, tbh.

[elemento]

Gasol got massively overrated because of the Olympic Games. In the NBA, he is not a top 15 player. Not after 2 playoffs in a row playing like shit.

How the hell Deron Williams is in the top 10 ? He was basically an inefficient chucker last season in NJ shooting 40% FG.

[Clipper Nation]

Nick Young > Jamal Crawford, Lamar Odom, Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, and Chauncey Billups..

Those stupid fucking Clippers let him go back to Philly...now they're left with a bunch of inconsistent ass chuckers :lol
This may be your most shitful take ever, tbh....

Firstly, Swaggy P had some hot streaks here and there, but played zero defense and his shot selection was often embarrassing.... not to mention, we don't need a bench full of zero-defense, inconsistent chuckers, tbh... that's pretty much what we had last year other than Eric Bledsoe, and it killed us many a time during the season....

Secondly, Jamal Crawford is basically a comparable shooter to Nick Young career-wise (their TS and eFG are about the same), but with more assists per game, more rebounds per game, WAY better at free throw shooting, less personal fouls per game, more points per game, and of course, more experience.... meanwhile, we got Lamar and Grant Hill holding it down with EBled on the bench defense tip....

Finally, we let him go back to Philly? Funny, considering he was never on the Sixers in the first place, tbh....

[Killakobe81]

Kobe at 6 is about right he has a.case a

For bottom of top 5 ... But a case could be made for bottom of top 10 ... 6 makes sense.

[Killakobe81]

Hard to rank Dwight and Rose that high coming off injury ...

[Pelicans78]

No way Deron Williams is a top 10 player. How did that happen?

[Brazil]

No way Deron Williams is a top 10 player. How did that happen?

same for Love imho

[Koolaid_Man]

This may be your most shitful take ever, tbh....

Firstly, Swaggy P had some hot streaks here and there, but played zero defense and his shot selection was often embarrassing.... not to mention, we don't need a bench full of zero-defense, inconsistent chuckers, tbh... that's pretty much what we had last year other than Eric Bledsoe, and it killed us many a time during the season....

Secondly, Jamal Crawford is basically a comparable shooter to Nick Young career-wise (their TS and eFG are about the same), but with more assists per game, more rebounds per game, WAY better at free throw shooting, less personal fouls per game, more points per game, and of course, more experience.... meanwhile, we got Lamar and Grant Hill holding it down with EBled on the bench defense tip....

Finally, we let him go back to Philly? Funny, considering he was never on the Sixers in the first place, tbh....


Listen up dude...if you date one of my ex's all I can say is be my guest...because one man's trash is another man's treasure...in other words Lamar Odom, Matt Barnes, Caron Butler, and Ronny Turiaf are shit for brains players...they like cum shots...or sloppy seconds we done already bust those nuts homie..you can have em...:lol

Grant Hill is 40 I know Steve is old as well but he leads the league in Assists and FG% from outside...so it's a pretty big difference....

and lastly don't even mention that negro Chauncy and Crawford...ain't nobody scared of fucking ass Chauncy and Jamal Crawford is a chucker in the worse way...he's like the sour cream on a nasty ass taco...



Chris Paul just can't get right...his hammy's are bad...

D'Andre Jordan seems like he has the IQ of a drunk Sarah Palin

and Monkey Man Blake can't stay healthy

now sit on dat :toast

[apalisoc_9]

Tony parker at 16?
Tony parker at 16?
Tony parker at 16?
Tony parker at 16?
Tony parker at 16?

Terrible list

[LnGrrrR]

I really think Rondo is too high at 12. If anything, KG seems as important to the Celtics right now. Long term, sure it's Rondo.

[Venti Quattro]

Tony Parker should at most be top 15. I'm okay with Kobe at 6. However, seeing that the Top 5 has two often-injured players last season, I'm not so sure anymore.


I really think Rondo is too high at 12. If anything, KG seems as important to the Celtics right now. Long term, sure it's Rondo.
Rondo is. Garnett, for all his tenacity, cannot will himself to light the flame as he did at least in 2010.

[LnGrrrR]

If only Rondo could develop a jumper, and up his scoring avg by 3 pts or so, he'd jump into the top 10 easily. Of course, by the time he gets that jumper, he'll probably have lost his athleticism. :lol

[ambchang]

I will presume you're talking to me...well why don't you take a nice quiet walk with me in the park as I explain...

I've met Kobe twice, D-fish numerous times...Shaq once, Jordan Farmar twice, Robert Horry numerous times, Samaki Walker numerous times, Lamar Odom at house party in NYC...Allen Iverson and KG in Vegas...I played ball with God Shamgod...I could go on and on of players I've met...just because your broke ass can't get around don't mean everyone else can't....

dude you have no idea who I am...

I'm muthafucking Koolaid :lol now...excuse me our walk is over

I once played mahjong with Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

Real talk.

[ambchang]

Kobe at 6 is about right he has a.case a

For bottom of top 5 ... But a case could be made for bottom of top 10 ... 6 makes sense.

Your response confirms that Kobe is ranked too high.

[Technique]

I thought Carmelo shitting a brick in the 1st round last year would lead you to ease up on the deepthroating but I guess that's not the case

Melo was the best player in the league for the month of April. He was consistent, a monster on the glass and was motivated on the defensive end.

Against the Heat he was guarded by the most versatile defender since Rodman and was the focal point of the Heat's overall defensive scheme. He didn't get much help, unlike Durant.

Durant didn't exactly shine against LeBron and the Heat in the finals either, and somehow it's not his fault.

[Technique]

I'm okay with Kobe at 6. However, seeing that the Top 5 has two often-injured players last season, I'm not so sure anymore

Seeing the final two minutes of the playoff game against the Thunder where he turned the ball over 2 straight possessions and lost the game by his damn self; he shouldn't be even considered top 10.

His defense is even more overrated than his offense. That rank is by reputation more than anything, same reason Melo is ranked so low.

[Venti Quattro]

Seeing the final two minutes of the playoff game against the Thunder where he turned the ball over 2 straight possessions and lost the game by his damn self; he shouldn't be even considered top 10.

His defense is even more overrated than his offense. That rank is by reputation more than anything, same reason Melo is ranked so low.

lol is this the same as your New York are ECF contenders mantra?

[Findog's Ex Fiancee]

:lol I hate Durant as much as anybody, but he didn't struggle against Miami in the Finals..in fact, he played dominant basketball on the offensive end..

The top players in the league are difficult to rank at the moment, tbh..

I'd go..

1- Lebron


2- Durant
3- Howard
4- Paul

5- Rose(assuming he's working hard and not banging)


6- Wade(benefit of the doubt)
7- Anthony
8- Bryant(benefit of the doubt)
9- Nowitzki(benefit of the doubt)
10- Griffin
11- Westbrook
12- Love(need to see him in the playoffs)
13- Aldridge
14- Rondo

15- Bynum
16- Williams(easily top 10 potential)
17- Parker

18- Garnett(not sure if he can repeat last year's impact)
19- Bosh

20- Nash(benefit of the doubt)

[Killakobe81]

Your response confirms that Kobe is ranked too high.

Not really with Rose and Dwight injuries some dumbases may argue he is still top 3. Realists will argue somewhere around 7 ...haters top 15 . Kobe fanbois top 3 .. 6 is about right last year he was 7 which is roughly where he should be ... But 6 is not far off.

[namlook]

7- Anthony
8- Bryant(benefit of the doubt)
9- Nowitzki(benefit of the doubt)

I'd take Kobe or Dirk over Carmelo in a heartbeat.

[Latarian Milton]

I once played mahjong with Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

Real talk.

didn't know any of other 3 had ever played such a shitty chinks' game like mahjong