Teammates that actually like Kobe .....

[lebomb]

.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol

[dylankerouac]

:tu

[timvp]

":cry I'm leaving and taking Slava with me :cry"

So I'll assume Slava Medvedenko is one.

[Koolaid_Man]

.

nigga please....there are tons of players that owe their very NBA careers to Kobe...starting with your so-called Defensive stopper in Bruce Bowen...the Spurs picked this dude up with the solepurpose of guarding / stopping Kobe...and Kobe straight raped his ass time and time and time and time again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvh9kEwekY8

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NgoMC2TUgw&feature=fvwrel

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe breaks Bowens ankle so bad that Bruce puts to hands palm flat on the ground to prevent from falling on his face...this shit is CLASSIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x55VxeRs0Q

[Pedobear1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjtGMqm9o8

crofl

[Pedobear1]

straight up fell on his ass after that, tbh

[Koolaid_Man]

Now this is refreshing...my nigga is so Candid..I mean how can you not love this guy....

Kobe Says His Team USA Teammates Can't Teach Him Anything


Kobe Bryant says he has nothing to learn from his Team USA teammates (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/olympics/article/kobe_bryant_says_he_has_nothing_to_learn_from_his_ team_usa_teammates/11415094)

He’s one of the cockiest players in the history of the NBA, which is also why he is one of the most successful and a lock for the Hall of Fame. To many players, Olympic basketball is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and a learning experience. Kobe, on the other hand, is too good for all that.




According to USA TODAY Sports, Bryant says there is no player on the Team USA roster (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/basketball/story/2012-08-06/Bryant-most-popular-US-athlete/56878630/1) that can teach him anything.




“I’m where everybody wants to get to,” Kobe said when asked what it’s like to be the old guy on the team. “I just happen to be still playing.”


He was then asked if he can learn anything form the younger players on the team.

“No,” he replied. ”I don’t know if I know it all, but I know more than they do.”







“No, no, no,” Kobe interrupted when asked if he was the second-best post player behind Chandler. “Not other than Tyson Chandler. I’m the best post player on this team, period. Tyson Chandler is not in that conversation.”



my nigga

[Koolaid_Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjtGMqm9o8

crofl

the rim actually blocked that shot...

[Koolaid_Man]

Let's keep it real:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ylCwWgURNw

[The Gemini Method]

Oh look...nothing worthwhile to read in this thread...

[Koolaid_Man]

Lebron and Prime Kobe 1 on 1....after getting torched Lebron didn't want no parts of that last shot so he switched off and asked Tayshaun to guard Kobe on the last play... Classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0AhR-LEfg

[Medvedenko]

":cry I'm leaving and taking Slava with me :cry"

So I'll assume Slava Medvedenko is one.

Yup.

[Bynumite]

And i thought NBA players wanted to make millions, win trophies and build a legacy. Spurfan: "Please, like me... please and call me maybe" :cry

[Medvedenko]

Lebomb, once again with the fails. Dude, you've been doing this BS way too long bro. It's like you're the Van Helsing...
I ask you...Why?

[Venti Quattro]

Kobe's rings > Players who actually like him

He's collecting $30 million per year at this stage of his career. He doesn't give a shit.

[Mitch]

They don't have to like him, they just have to listen to him - and me. He has a better education than a UTSA graduate, so they are better off.

[Relevancy]

Bryant: 5 rings, Spurs Franchise: 4 rings, basketball is not about likability thb.

[Jodelo]

Lakerfans going all defense by changing the subject :lol

[ElNono]

crofl

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Lakerfan salty, bitter, and butthurt, trying to deflect from the fact that Food Stamps is a team-killing, coach-killing asshole

[Medvedenko]

:lol Lakerfan salty, bitter, and butthurt, trying to deflect from the fact that Food Stamps is a team-killing, coach-killing asshole

You haven't watched much of the NBA have you......

[Clipper Nation]

You haven't watched much of the NBA have you......
I seem to recall Food Stamps destroying the 04 Lakers and forcing Shaq and Phil out of town....

[Relevancy]

I seem to recall Food Stamps destroying the 04 Lakers and forcing Shaq and Phil out of town....If this was a concentration camp and we were the one's being held captive, you'd be the guy who tries to sneak into the kitchen to settle down your hunger problems without having an actual plan, in exchange you'll get yourself killed by being caught plus have us killed also, not a very smart individual thb.

[NRHector]

If this was a concentration camp and we were the one's being held captive, you'd be the guy who tries to sneak into the kitchen to settle down your hunger problems without having an actual plan, in exchange you'll get yourself killed by being caught plus have us killed also, not a very smart individual thb.

you just described Kobe, doesn't give a shit about anybody else just himself

[Chris]

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/2313/kobekissing13284.jpg
Guess these guys were good friends :lol

[Relevancy]

you just described KobeReally? Kobe's first try was successful, so was his second and third, he almost had the 4th one but Clipper Nation came into play.

[lefty]

OP opening the flood gates



Troll attack :lol

[The Gemini Method]

-Not bitter in the slightest...it's funny watching those who obssess over Kobe from both sides (pro/detractors) as if they have nothing more to discuss.

[LkrFan]

:lol

Kobe demands excellence. Nothing wrong with that.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/rhsi29.jpg

Left side: motivated teammate. Right side: Overweighted Clipp:lolr.

[Bynumite]

lol going to the NBA to make friends, only spurfan :lol

Spur players are such good friends that they "take care" of their teammates' wives, just ask yo boy Tony P :lol

[jeebus]

Kobe demands excellence. Nothing wrong with that.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/rhsi29.jpg

Left side: motivated teammate. Right side: Overweighted Clipp:lolr.

The sight of that Eddy Curry arm is still :lmao-worthy

[LkrFan]

The sight of that Eddy Curry arm is still :lmao-worthy

But wait, there's more. CP3 with the assist...to Lamar's waistline:

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Lamar-Fat-Pic.jpg

:lol

[jeebus]

:lmao that's a good 'shop right there; I like the added touch to make Chris Paul's neck a good 24 inches in size

[The Gemini Method]

Wow...CP3's neck seems to lead one to believe he has a major thyroid problem and/or goiter...:lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol More butthurt deflection from Lakerfan

[AussieFanKurt]

Just as kobe starts to gain some respect.. he goes and says arrogant fucking things like this

[djohn2oo8]

I think if some Lakerfans on here actually met Kobe in person, they would allow him to piss on them.

[LkrFan]

:lol More butthurt deflection from Lakerfan

You're flopping just like your boy:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1012/nba_u_chris-paul_mb_576.jpg

I ain't butthurt. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

You're flopping just like your boy:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1012/nba_u_chris-paul_mb_576.jpg

I ain't butthurt. :lol

you may not know this but Chris Paul likes hitting people in the dick when he's getting owned...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F3tptzEWmM

[LkrFan]

you may not know this but Chris Paul likes hitting people in the dick when he's getting owned...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F3tptzEWmM

What a faggot. SMH

[Ace]

Kobe demands excellence. Nothing wrong with that.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/rhsi29.jpg

Left side: motivated teammate. Right side: Overweighted Clipp:lolr.
Holy shit :lmao

[NRHector]

Kobe demands excellence. Nothing wrong with that.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/rhsi29.jpg

Left side: motivated teammate. Right side: Overweighted Clipp:lolr.
Kobe shot so many bricks last season that he could build 2 more mansions for Vanessa, how can he demand excellence?

[Clipper Nation]

Food Stamps' "demanding of excellence" didn't stop Bynum from being a fatass tbh....

[Venti Quattro]

Lamar Odom was in his best shape of his career while he was with Miami and LA. He will have time to shape up, but to see him showing up at training grossly overweight is disappointing nonetheless.

[Koolaid_Man]

Wow...CP3's neck seems to lead one to believe he has a major thyroid problem and/or goiter...:lol


^ and some got gotdam nappy ass...fucking ass...nappy ass hair....:lol

[Latarian Milton]

gaining some weight ain't a bad thing for a 33yr old nig who's expected to play predominantly as a PF imho, he's trying to make himself shaquille O'Dom

[Clipper Nation]

shaquille O'Dom
:lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/F1KlV0nKcIo/0.jpghttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/Mea76oHWfbw/0.jpghttp://www.latimes.com/includes/soundslides/la-sp-2010lakers/lakers_224.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m57ncwix3f1qbvq32o1_1280.jpghttp://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/NBA+Finals+Game+7+Boston+Celtics+v+Los+Angeles+xvB UDROkCp-l.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Sasha+Vujacic+Jordan+Farmar+NBA+Finals+Game+p2-G4HX7Jbzl.jpghttp://www.wallcoo.net/sport/nba_lakers_2009_champions/images/09_finals_wallpaper_celebration2.jpghttp://lakersblog.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c506253ef0133f4f4f5c2970b-320wihttp://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2009/images/06/15/locker_room.jpg

[ElNono]

^ those pictures really tell the tale how much teammates like Kobe, tbh... crofl

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

crofl at Morrison

[DAF86]

Succesful troll thread is succesful.

[Koolaid_Man]

^ those pictures really tell the tale how much teammates like Kobe, tbh... crofl

yo yo yo...once again Kobe has a message for your sloppy spit dick slurping ass...


Kobe Bryant: "I'd rather be perceived as a winner than a good teammate."



Kobe Bryant posted the following message on his Facebook page.

"Leadership is responsibility. There comes a point when one must make a decision. Are YOU willing to do what it takes to push the right buttons to elevate those around you? If the answer is YES, are you willing to push the right buttons even if it means being perceived as the villain? Here's where the true responsibility of being a leader lies. Sometimes you must prioritize the success of the team
ahead of how your own image is perceived. The ability to elevate those around you is more than simply sharing the ball or making teammates feel a certain level of comfort. It's pushing them to find their inner beast, even if they end up resenting you for it at the time.

I'd rather be perceived as a winner than a good teammate. I wish they both went hand in hand all the time but that's just not reality. I have nothing in common with lazy people who blame others for their lack of success. Great things come from hard work and perseverance. No excuses.

This is my way. It might not be right for YOU but all I can do is share my thoughts. It’s on YOU to figure out which leadership style suits you best.

Will check back in with you soon. Till then
Mamba out"

[ElNono]

He's certainly winning the "perceived as a complete ego-maniacal douche" sweepstakes, tbh...

[ambchang]

Why didn't he elevate those around him from 2005 to 2007? Statistically? Odom was the same from the Clippers to the Heat to the Lakers. He just fell off the cliff with the Mavs after the lockout.

Pau Gasol didn't play that well in 2008 and 2012 playoffs, for some strange reasons, and his numbers are pretty much the same as when he played for the Grizzlies.

Curiously, both of them got more offensive rebounds, but not defensive rebounds, per 36 minutes after coming to the Lakers, must be because of more opportunities.

Ron Artest has worse and worse numbers (but more exposure due to being on the Lakers).

Trevor Ariza puts up the same numbers with the Lakers than when he played for the Rockets.

I can't find one single player who played better with Kobe than without him.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Why didn't he elevate those around him from 2005 to 2007? Statistically? Odom was the same from the Clippers to the Heat to the Lakers. He just fell off the cliff with the Mavs after the lockout.

Pau Gasol didn't play that well in 2008 and 2012 playoffs, for some strange reasons, and his numbers are pretty much the same as when he played for the Grizzlies.

Curiously, both of them got more offensive rebounds, but not defensive rebounds, per 36 minutes after coming to the Lakers, must be because of more opportunities.

Ron Artest has worse and worse numbers (but more exposure due to being on the Lakers).

Trevor Ariza puts up the same numbers with the Lakers than when he played for the Rockets.

I can't find one single player who played better with Kobe than without him.

Pau Gasol

Career with the Memphis Grizzles (2002-2008)
.509 FG%
.566 TS%
1x NBA All-Star
NBA Rookie of the Year
NBA All-Rookie First Team

Last 3 years with Memphis Grizzles (2006-2008)
.514 FG%
.570 TS%
1x NBA All-Star

2008-2011 with Los Angeles Lakers
.548 FG%
.604 TS%
2x NBA Champion
3x NBA All-Star
1x All-NBA Second Team
2x All-NBA Third Team

2007-08 Season
Grizzles (39 games): .501 FG%, .566 TS%
Lakers (27 games): .589 FG%, .639 TS%



Lamar Odom

Career before joining Los Angeles Lakers (2000-2004)
.440 FG%
.519 TS%
NBA All-Rookie First Team

2005-2011 with Los Angeles Lakers
.491 FG%
.558 TS%
2x NBA Champion
NBA Sixth Man of the Year

2011-12 with Dallas Mavericks
.352 FG%
.423 TS%


Ron Artest got worse because he turned 30 years old 2 weeks into the 2009-10 season.

[LkrFan]

Dropping Deuces on ambchang. :lol

[ambchang]

I am finally seeing some real hard numbers from a Laker fan, so I am quite surprised and happy that this is no longer a blind subjective Kobe praising contest, and pointless 5>4 "arguments".

On the other hand, it was soiled by LkrFan's idiotic response. It is sad that he wasn't able to come up with these simple arguments himself (or herself, not sure, but I am assuming him) and have to live off more intelligent posters like Deuce Bigalow.

Anyways, back on topic. Taking Gasol and Odom's shooting percentages for their entire career before the Lakers as compared to after the Lakers is flawed.

1) The first few seasons in the league are usually the seasons in which players shoot their worse because of an adjustment to different and much better defensive schemes
2) Gasol hit his prime when he joined the Lakers. Big men historically peak at 28 to 32 years old, and Gasol joined the Lakers at 27.

Now get down to the real numbers and look at the full seasons before and immediately after Gasol is traded. The reason for this method is because a player's age is not as heavily factored into the comparison. Surely it should be agreed upon that Gasol's rookie season shouldn't be used to compare to him when he is 28, because that's the peak big man age (historically).

In 06-07, Gasol scored 20.7 per 36 minutes, with 7.3 defensive and 2.5 offensive rebounds, along with 3.4 assts, and 1.5 blks. Let's look at primarily offensive production. In 07-08 with the Lakers, he averaged (again per 36 minutes) 19.9 points, 2.4 offensive rebounds, and 3.7 assists. Sure his shooting percentage went up, but it was less dramatic than originally shown, going from 53.4 to 58.9.

The following season, after Gasol is settled, he avarege 18.3 ppg, with 3.1 orb, and shot 56.7% from the field, numbers that are hardly distinguishable (or even slightly worse) than his last few seasons with the Grizziles. His true shooting percentage went from 59.3% in his last season as a Grizzly to 61.7% in his first full season with the Lakers. The numbers kept falling as a Laker until that percentage hit 54.7% last year. Defenses around the league has figured out a way to contain Gasol in the Lakers offense. it wasn't a matter of Kobe making Gasol better, it's a matter of teams not having the necessary information to prepare for Gasol in a new offensive setting.

The same applies for Odom, if you look at his last full season with the Heat (and that is actually a better comparison than Gasol's because that was also his first season with the Heat, eliminating more noise around adjusting to a new system), Odom, shot 43%, scored 16.4 per 36 minutes with 3.9 assists, and 1.9 offensive rebounds, the first season as a Laker, he shot 47.3%, scored 15.1 points, with 2.1 offensive rebounds and 3.7 assists. Again, hardly any change from the Heat numbers. His Laker numbers continue to fall until his last season as a Laker, and that was primarily due to the change in his role on the team. His TS% went from 51.6% with the Heat to 53.9% with the Lakers, hardly any difference in the grand scheme of things.

The numbers are full of noise, and it is quite smart of you to pick and choose stats to present, using only shooting percentages as any sort of indication. But real production, such as points per 36 minutes actually went down, and things like assists and offensive rebounds have flatlined or gone up very slightly.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I am finally seeing some real hard numbers from a Laker fan, so I am quite surprised and happy that this is no longer a blind subjective Kobe praising contest, and pointless 5>4 "arguments".

On the other hand, it was soiled by LkrFan's idiotic response. It is sad that he wasn't able to come up with these simple arguments himself (or herself, not sure, but I am assuming him) and have to live off more intelligent posters like Deuce Bigalow.

Anyways, back on topic. Taking Gasol and Odom's shooting percentages for their entire career before the Lakers as compared to after the Lakers is flawed.

1) The first few seasons in the league are usually the seasons in which players shoot their worse because of an adjustment to different and much better defensive schemes
2) Gasol hit his prime when he joined the Lakers. Big men historically peak at 28 to 32 years old, and Gasol joined the Lakers at 27.

Now get down to the real numbers and look at the full seasons before and immediately after Gasol is traded. The reason for this method is because a player's age is not as heavily factored into the comparison. Surely it should be agreed upon that Gasol's rookie season shouldn't be used to compare to him when he is 28, because that's the peak big man age (historically).

In 06-07, Gasol scored 20.7 per 36 minutes, with 7.3 defensive and 2.5 offensive rebounds, along with 3.4 assts, and 1.5 blks. Let's look at primarily offensive production. In 07-08 with the Lakers, he averaged (again per 36 minutes) 19.9 points, 2.4 offensive rebounds, and 3.7 assists. Sure his shooting percentage went up, but it was less dramatic than originally shown, going from 53.4 to 58.9.

The following season, after Gasol is settled, he avarege 18.3 ppg, with 3.1 orb, and shot 56.7% from the field, numbers that are hardly distinguishable (or even slightly worse) than his last few seasons with the Grizziles. His true shooting percentage went from 59.3% in his last season as a Grizzly to 61.7% in his first full season with the Lakers. The numbers kept falling as a Laker until that percentage hit 54.7% last year. Defenses around the league has figured out a way to contain Gasol in the Lakers offense. it wasn't a matter of Kobe making Gasol better, it's a matter of teams not having the necessary information to prepare for Gasol in a new offensive setting.

The same applies for Odom, if you look at his last full season with the Heat (and that is actually a better comparison than Gasol's because that was also his first season with the Heat, eliminating more noise around adjusting to a new system), Odom, shot 43%, scored 16.4 per 36 minutes with 3.9 assists, and 1.9 offensive rebounds, the first season as a Laker, he shot 47.3%, scored 15.1 points, with 2.1 offensive rebounds and 3.7 assists. Again, hardly any change from the Heat numbers. His Laker numbers continue to fall until his last season as a Laker, and that was primarily due to the change in his role on the team. His TS% went from 51.6% with the Heat to 53.9% with the Lakers, hardly any difference in the grand scheme of things.

The numbers are full of noise, and it is quite smart of you to pick and choose stats to present, using only shooting percentages as any sort of indication. But real production, such as points per 36 minutes actually went down, and things like assists and offensive rebounds have flatlined or gone up very slightly.

Come on, Kobe gets Gasol much easier buckets than without him. Even if Kobe isn't trying to be a good teammate, just him on the court with the defensive attention (especially in 08-10), gets Gasol single coverage, or even a smaller defender switching on him. Go back to my thread on Game 1 of the 08 WCF, and watch the last 5:53 of the 3rd quarter. You think Gasol gets those buckets on the Grizzles?
In the Playoffs with the Grizzles (12 games which were all losses btw) Gasol shot 49%FG. Then from 08-10 Playoffs he shot 53, 58, 54%FG.

[ambchang]

And you can argue the effects are mutual. Kobe saw his FG% and TS% improve after Gasol's arrival, and it's just a matter of having two scoring threats on the same team.

I agree Gasol gets easier buckets because there is less defensive attention, but does that make him a better player?

To me, making your teammate a better player is to make them bust their butt every night, and especially at important moments. Gasol clearly didn't do that on multiple occasions (as Kobirites have routinely nailed him to the cross for any Laker failure over the last few years). Put them in situations where they can perform their best.

Kobe never did that. Players like Nash, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, Lebron, they did.

And why the 08-10 playoffs? Why not include the 11 and 12 playoffs? Anything to do with Gasol hitting his prime in those years?

[LkrFan]

I am finally seeing some real hard numbers from a Laker fan, so I am quite surprised and happy that this is no longer a blind subjective Kobe praising contest, and pointless 5>4 "arguments".

On the other hand, it was soiled by LkrFan's idiotic response. It is sad that he wasn't able to come up with these simple arguments himself (or herself, not sure, but I am assuming him) and have to live off more intelligent posters like Deuce Bigalow.

Anyways, back on topic. Taking Gasol and Odom's shooting percentages for their entire career before the Lakers as compared to after the Lakers is flawed.

1) The first few seasons in the league are usually the seasons in which players shoot their worse because of an adjustment to different and much better defensive schemes
2) Gasol hit his prime when he joined the Lakers. Big men historically peak at 28 to 32 years old, and Gasol joined the Lakers at 27.

Now get down to the real numbers and look at the full seasons before and immediately after Gasol is traded. The reason for this method is because a player's age is not as heavily factored into the comparison. Surely it should be agreed upon that Gasol's rookie season shouldn't be used to compare to him when he is 28, because that's the peak big man age (historically).

In 06-07, Gasol scored 20.7 per 36 minutes, with 7.3 defensive and 2.5 offensive rebounds, along with 3.4 assts, and 1.5 blks. Let's look at primarily offensive production. In 07-08 with the Lakers, he averaged (again per 36 minutes) 19.9 points, 2.4 offensive rebounds, and 3.7 assists. Sure his shooting percentage went up, but it was less dramatic than originally shown, going from 53.4 to 58.9.

The following season, after Gasol is settled, he avarege 18.3 ppg, with 3.1 orb, and shot 56.7% from the field, numbers that are hardly distinguishable (or even slightly worse) than his last few seasons with the Grizziles. His true shooting percentage went from 59.3% in his last season as a Grizzly to 61.7% in his first full season with the Lakers. The numbers kept falling as a Laker until that percentage hit 54.7% last year. Defenses around the league has figured out a way to contain Gasol in the Lakers offense. it wasn't a matter of Kobe making Gasol better, it's a matter of teams not having the necessary information to prepare for Gasol in a new offensive setting.

The same applies for Odom, if you look at his last full season with the Heat (and that is actually a better comparison than Gasol's because that was also his first season with the Heat, eliminating more noise around adjusting to a new system), Odom, shot 43%, scored 16.4 per 36 minutes with 3.9 assists, and 1.9 offensive rebounds, the first season as a Laker, he shot 47.3%, scored 15.1 points, with 2.1 offensive rebounds and 3.7 assists. Again, hardly any change from the Heat numbers. His Laker numbers continue to fall until his last season as a Laker, and that was primarily due to the change in his role on the team. His TS% went from 51.6% with the Heat to 53.9% with the Lakers, hardly any difference in the grand scheme of things.

The numbers are full of noise, and it is quite smart of you to pick and choose stats to present, using only shooting percentages as any sort of indication. But real production, such as points per 36 minutes actually went down, and things like assists and offensive rebounds have flatlined or gone up very slightly.
Just give us the Cliff Notes, tbh. Nobody gone read all that shit. Brevity MFer. And what does this shit have to do with the topic of Kobe's teammates liking him or not? :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

And you can argue the effects are mutual. Kobe saw his FG% and TS% improve after Gasol's arrival, and it's just a matter of having two scoring threats on the same team.

I agree Gasol gets easier buckets because there is less defensive attention, but does that make him a better player?

To me, making your teammate a better player is to make them bust their butt every night, and especially at important moments. Gasol clearly didn't do that on multiple occasions (as Kobirites have routinely nailed him to the cross for any Laker failure over the last few years). Put them in situations where they can perform their best.

Kobe never did that. Players like Nash, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, Lebron, they did.

And why the 08-10 playoffs? Why not include the 11 and 12 playoffs? Anything to do with Gasol hitting his prime in those years?
lol at Duncan
If you think Duncan is a better playmaker than you're pretty stupid.
You're hatred of Kobe blinds you is all I can say.

[Koolaid_Man]

Just give us the Cliff Notes, tbh. Nobody gone read all that shit. Brevity MFer.

^ :lol

Let me point out that Kobe is one of the most likeable athletes in the world...I wonder where Duncan is on this list...


In terms of American athletes, Michael Jordan tops the list with 20 million "likes." Kobe Bryant is six million "likes" behind Jordan, and LeBron James sits in third with 12.5 million "likes."


Ronaldo is about 12 million "likes" behind the most liked celebrity, Rihanna (62 million). After Rihanna are Eminem (61.5 million), Shakira (55 million), Lady Gaga (53.3 million) and Michael Jackson (52 million).


But Ronaldo is ahead of Katy Perry (48 million) and Justin Bieber (47 million).



http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201210/soccer-star-first-50-million-facebook-likes

[rayjayjohnson]

"I mean we're different, but he's one of the best to ever play, period. I think really the difference is sometimes he forgets he's the best, where I don't."

totally likeable comments from Captain I-Don't-Need-Consent

[LkrFan]

totally likeable comments from Captain I-Don't-Need-Consent
Eye contact is consent MFer. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

totally likeable comments from Captain I-Don't-Need-Consent

Let's compare rape allegations..Kobe vs Neal..

The Story:

Eagle County Detective Doug Winters said he talked to the alleged victim at her parents home and convinced her to be interviewed at the sheriff's department. The alleged victim told Winter that she was excited about meeting Bryant, a new guest at the resort. She said that while she was showing Bryant and two people in his entourage up to their rooms, he pulled her aside and asked her to give him a tour of the hotel. She said there was "mutual flirting" during the tour, Winters said.



She said Bryant invited her back to his room and she went in and sat on a couch while he sat on a chair nearby. They chatted about tattoos and he asked her to show the tattoo she said she had on her ankle.



When she thought she was leaving, she asked for Bryant's autograph in which he replied that he would give it to her later when she came back to his room. She said he asked her for a hug and she gave him one and then he began kissing her mouth, her neck -- actions she said she agreed to. She said the kissing lasted about 5 minutes. She said he then began to grope her breasts and butt. He began putting his hand under her panties, and she told him that she had to leave.


She said she was trying to leave when Bryant "grabbed her around the neck," Winters said.

She said he then bent her over a chair, pulled up black dress and pulled her panties down. She said that she told him that she needed to leave "and at one point, stated 'No,'" Winters said.

She said she began crying when the sexual intercourse started and didn't stop until it was over about 5 minutes later. She said the sex was painful. She said she told Bryant "No" at least twice. When asked if she was yelling "No" she told Winters that she said "No" in a normal voice. She said he had ignored her.


The woman said that Bryant forced her to kiss his penis after the attack. She said Bryant asked her to go clean up in the bathroom. She said she was in the bathroom for about 5 minutes, fixing her hair and wiping her face. Before she left, Bryant reminded her that she shouldn't tell anyone and she said she would remain quiet. She said she then went down to the front desk and finished her work and then told the bellman everything that had happened.

Here's the kicker:


Classmates and friends who know the young woman said male guests frequently visited her overnight.
One resident said the accuser bragged about her sexual encounters, including one with a celebrity look-alike while she auditioned last year in Texas for the popular TV show “American Idol.”

Reports such as these may raise questions about the validity of the accuser’s claim that Bryant sexually assaulted her June 30 at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo.




The accuser's friends were prepared to testify for the defense that she openly laughed and bragged at a party that Kobe had a 14 inch penis


^ Not rape

[Koolaid_Man]

I report you decide :lol


The case of the Spurs player Neal is far darker and more complex, especially to those who thought the Spurs would never sign someone with his collection of court documents. The various accounts of June 23, 2004, do not fit with the Robinson-Duncan profile.



According to police records and the victim’s testimony, she asked Neal for some pretzels, and they went into the kitchen.
“I was going to throw up,” she testified in court, according to the Philadelphia Daily News. “So the closest thing to me was the sink. So, I leaned over the sink and started throwing up, like, profusely. In the meantime, as this is transpiring, Gary came behind me and started undoing my pants while I’m throwing up. I’m barely, like, standing.”


She testified Neal and another La Salle player raped her. She vomited again before passing out, she told the courtroom.
The Spurs then sat down with Neal three different times, including the mandatory one-on-one with Popovich. The Spurs liked what they heard, and their research supported their impressions.


Neal told a La Salle coach afterward that he had only oral sex with the woman, while Cleaves said nothing happened, a prosecutor said.
Police later found Cleaves' semen in a condom they recovered from the sink, as well as DNA that matched Neal, he said.
"They treated her less than human," Assistant District Attorney Rich DeSipio told jurors in his opening statement.

[LkrFan]

:lol

[lebomb]

Oh, like one rape was better than the other............... Laker fans :rolleyes

[racm]

:cry It's not rape when Kobe does it :cry

[NRHector]

^ :lol

Let me point out that Kobe is one of the most likeable athletes in the world...I wonder where Duncan is on this list...

Ronaldo is about 12 million "likes" behind the most liked celebrity, Rihanna (62 million). After Rihanna are Eminem (61.5 million), Shakira (55 million), Lady Gaga (53.3 million) and Michael Jackson (52 million).


But Ronaldo is ahead of Katy Perry (48 million) and Justin Bieber (47 million).



http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201210/soccer-star-first-50-million-facebook-likes

did you read the title idiot?

[ambchang]

lol at Duncan
If you think Duncan is a better playmaker than you're pretty stupid.
You're hatred of Kobe blinds you is all I can say.

Never mentioned anything about Duncan being a better playmaker than Kobe, just that Duncan makes his teammates better by putting them in positions to succeed.

Players like Bruce Bowen, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Stephen Jackson, etc ... were all able to play in their roles and grow as players playing next to Duncan. Couldn't think of similar cases with Kobe.

[ambchang]

Just give us the Cliff Notes, tbh. Nobody gone read all that shit. Brevity MFer. And what does this shit have to do with the topic of Kobe's teammates liking him or not? :lol

You are right, this has nothing to do with whether Kobe's teammates like him or not, not sure why your butt-buddy Koolaid man bought it up:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204162&page=2&p=6147034&viewfull=1#post6147034

Thanks for telling me you are marginally literate and/or lazy. BTW, a smarter, more respectable counterpart in Lakerland - Deuce Bigalow, just read it, and responded to it.

[lefty]

I was watching that sport talk show yesterday (I think it was on The Score)

- " Kobe is not a great leader; he is selfish, and will do everything in his power for him, not for his team "
- " I think he acts the way he does, even if it comes off as mean or selfish, for the good of the team " (wtf)
- " so shipping Shaq out of L.A was good for the Lakers ? "

And boom, ommercial break :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

did you read the title idiot?

so what does the title have to do with Duncan not being liked outside of the SA community :lol

[djohn2oo8]

New Orleans Coons would work fine for the purposes of having BR listed as BRCoon :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Oh, like one rape was better than the other............... Laker fans :rolleyes

hey lame brain...one was real the other wasn't...learn to use your powers of perception if you have any...

[Koolaid_Man]

New Orleans Coons would work fine for the purposes of having BR listed as BRCoon :lol

:lol

[TheRealCB]

totally likeable comments from Captain I-Don't-Need-Consent
rayjayjohnson who was he referring to son?

[rayjayjohnson]

rayjayjohnson (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19589) who was he referring to son?
A-rod

[LkrFan]

You are right, this has nothing to do with whether Kobe's teammates like him or not, not sure why your butt-buddy Koolaid man bought it up:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204162&page=2&p=6147034&viewfull=1#post6147034

Thanks for telling me you are marginally literate and/or lazy. BTW, a smarter, more respectable counterpart in Lakerland - Deuce Bigalow, just read it, and responded to it.
I'm just messing with you dawg. That was a well written post.

Spurs still suck though. :toast

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just give us the Cliff Notes, tbh. Nobody gone read all that shit. Brevity MFer. And what does this shit have to do with the topic of Kobe's teammates liking him or not? :lol

I read it. Speak for your own barely literate simpleton ass.

[LkrFan]

I read it. Speak for your own barely literate simpleton ass.

How you know I did not read it? Don't assume and don't take what I say literally. I already told him I was messing with him. ;)