Texas is poop.

[Kermit]

Well, that sucked.

What a fucking abortion this program has become. I remember my freshman year at UT in 1997, sitting in the stands and getting ready to watch the Horns pound UCLA's ass. At halftime, as the program lay in ruins, I comtemplated how it had come to that. And now Texas finds itself at another crossroads. They are the fifth, no sixth best team in the state. They have a head coach who doesn't give a shit. Who collects $5 million paychecks will eating himself into Mangino shape. We have a AD who is smug and worships the almighty dollar. Who doesn't give a shit if the program wins or loses as long as he is swimming in money. A program to whom the word accountability means nothing. Players who know that they'll play regardless of talent if they stay with the program for a certain number of years. A recruiting system that is broken. Who has watched talented players leave the state because Texas has targeted less talented counterparts, or has promised some alums kid brother. It's a fucking mess.

Burn it to the ground. All of it. Fire Deloss. Fire Mack. Fire the assistants. Fire the assistant AD. Pull the plug on the LHN. We are a program of pussies. Rich, gutless pussies. I want to see that stadium empty against Baylor. I have never rooted for Texas to lose, but I'm not going to cry if they do. Don't spend money, don't watch them on tv. Don't support the program until that fat, talentless, hack of a coach is gone. Thrown out on his ass. I don't want him associated with the program any longer. Not even in a fund-raising capacity. Go fuck yourself Mack. Thanks for 2005. It was great, but you're done son. EABOD and DIAF.

Deloss, go fuck yourself. All the rich alums who support him and his c.unt coach, Go fuck yourselves too.

When UTSA is a better run progam and football team, it's time to kill yourself.

[The Reckoning]

meltdown thread is meltdown.

it was one game, and yes it was boomer.

it's still a good school, and im proud to have graduated from there. i have no qualms about the program either, though id like to see more of that money it's making go back to the university.
it was much worse last year when we had blake gideon still playing and greg davis sitting his fatass in the coach's booth.

UT is seriously only a couple of years away from a national title. if they played to their full potential, they could have played for one this year.

[Sisk]

UT is seriously only a couple of years away from a national title. if they played to their full potential, they could have played for one this year.

Lol what?

What is going to change? Talent? There's 4 and 5 star talent all over that roster.

Coaching is obviously the issue. Entitlement. Attitude. Etc.. All stems from the HC

[ThePop]

Normally I would agree that it's just one game, but if you haven't noticed our defense is terrible. The bright spot of this season was David Ash developing into a great QB but now he's out for the season. Other guys like Jordan Hicks, Malcolm Brown, Jackson Jeffcoat, and Brandon Moore are hurt and who knows when they will be back. Then of course is the coaching problems. Mack has to go but I doubt that will happen any time soon, he's done great things at this school but his time is past and he needs to retire. Oh and don't get me started on Diaz.

This went from a 9-10 win season to anywhere from 5 to 7 wins in one week. Kansas is the only obvious win. Baylor, Iowa State, and TCU are all tossups. Kansas State and Tech are losses.

[ThePop]

Lol what?

What is going to change? Talent? There's 4 and 5 star talent all over that roster.

Coaching is obviously the issue. Entitlement. Attitude. Etc.. All stems from the HC

^^^^This
We have as much talent as anyone in the country

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

meltdown thread is meltdown.

it was one game, and yes it was boomer.

it's still a good school, and im proud to have graduated from there. i have no qualms about the program either, though id like to see more of that money it's making go back to the university.
it was much worse last year when we had blake gideon still playing and greg davis sitting his fatass in the coach's booth.

UT is seriously only a couple of years away from a national title. if they played to their full potential, they could have played for one this year.

:lol still defending Mack Brownturdfaggit

[Bill_Brasky]

Texasfan finally realizing that Mack sucks ass....

[Jimmiemac]

Anyone else notice how big Applewhite's man tits are getting?

[tlongII]

Should've joined the PAC-12 tbh.

[Vito Corleone]

Well, that sucked.

What a fucking abortion this program has become. I remember my freshman year at UT in 1997, sitting in the stands and getting ready to watch the Horns pound UCLA's ass. At halftime, as the program lay in ruins, I comtemplated how it had come to that. And now Texas finds itself at another crossroads. They are the fifth, no sixth best team in the state. They have a head coach who doesn't give a shit. Who collects $5 million paychecks will eating himself into Mangino shape. We have a AD who is smug and worships the almighty dollar. Who doesn't give a shit if the program wins or loses as long as he is swimming in money. A program to whom the word accountability means nothing. Players who know that they'll play regardless of talent if they stay with the program for a certain number of years. A recruiting system that is broken. Who has watched talented players leave the state because Texas has targeted less talented counterparts, or has promised some alums kid brother. It's a fucking mess.

Burn it to the ground. All of it. Fire Deloss. Fire Mack. Fire the assistants. Fire the assistant AD. Pull the plug on the LHN. We are a program of pussies. Rich, gutless pussies. I want to see that stadium empty against Baylor. I have never rooted for Texas to lose, but I'm not going to cry if they do. Don't spend money, don't watch them on tv. Don't support the program until that fat, talentless, hack of a coach is gone. Thrown out on his ass. I don't want him associated with the program any longer. Not even in a fund-raising capacity. Go fuck yourself Mack. Thanks for 2005. It was great, but you're done son. EABOD and DIAF.

Deloss, go fuck yourself. All the rich alums who support him and his c.unt coach, Go fuck yourselves too.

When UTSA is a better run progam and football team, it's time to kill yourself.

I have a great idea, start calling up each recruit and telling them to go to some other school, that will fix everything, then we can have another 17 dry spell of being crappy and irrelevant. That's exactly what happened in the 1980's when alumni got pissed.

[ColinB]

Is Ash out for the season?

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Mack Brown
:lol Coach February

[The Reckoning]

no shit. everyone's flipping out after one game. UT has been alot worse in the past. get over it and move on, people.

[The Reckoning]

Lol what?

What is going to change? Talent? There's 4 and 5 star talent all over that roster.

Coaching is obviously the issue. Entitlement. Attitude. Etc.. All stems from the HC


im sure firing coaches after losing one rivalry game really helps out programs, amirite?

[Sisk]

im sure firing coaches after losing one rivalry game really helps out programs, amirite?

Uhhhh...

[Bill_Brasky]

no shit. everyone's flipping out after one game. UT has been alot worse in the past. get over it and move on, people.

Mack Brown is a shit coach and has underachieved during his whole career at Texas.

[tlongII]

Texas should be a top 10 team almost every year with the resources they have. They have definitely been under-performing.

[Kermit]

Lol to the idiots who think this is a reaction to one game.

[Vito Corleone]

Mack Brown is a shit coach and has underachieved during his whole career at Texas.

I experienced something you will never experience. I watched the team I have followed since I was 8 years old win a national championship. I was a fan back in 1983 when we lost to Georgia. I was a fan back when the wheels fell off the program back in 1984. I was a fan and had to endure losing to Miami back in 1990 cotton bowl. I endured McWilliams, Machovic and Mack having blowout losses to OU.

Fact is it was all worth it see us win the MNC. You can say what you want, but Mack is a better coach than anything you have ever had at Tech and if he were at Tech win or lose he would be a legend just like he is at Texas. When your school wins something, anything then you can judge Mack but until then you don't know what you are talking about.

He needs to be replaced, there is no doubt about it, but he goes out with dignity and respect he has earned.

[ThePop]

^^^
no doubt Mack has done great things and we are greatful for his time here. Some people sound like aggies the way they are calling for Mack's head like he is Sherman. I want him to leave in a "thank you and enjoy your retirement" kinda way.

Its Pretty obvious that after the 2009 mnc game Mack is just trying to get the program back on track before he leaves, problem is he doesn't have what it takes anymore.

[Bill_Brasky]

I experienced something you will never experience. I watched the team I have followed since I was 8 years old win a national championship. I was a fan back in 1983 when we lost to Georgia. I was a fan back when the wheels fell off the program back in 1984. I was a fan and had to endure losing to Miami back in 1990 cotton bowl. I endured McWilliams, Machovic and Mack having blowout losses to OU.

Fact is it was all worth it see us win the MNC. You can say what you want, but Mack is a better coach than anything you have ever had at Tech and if he were at Tech win or lose he would be a legend just like he is at Texas. When your school wins something, anything then you can judge Mack but until then you don't know what you are talking about.

He needs to be replaced, there is no doubt about it, but he goes out with dignity and respect he has earned.

:lol talk about a butthurt post. I didn't realize watching your team win a championship from your couch makes you more qualified to talk about an underachieving coach. Then again, I'm talking to the homerest of homers who didn't even go to Texas and just 2 weeks ago was boasting about them being a top 10 team.

Mack improved recruiting. That's about it. With the perennial top 5 classes he's had through the years and how weak the B12 was from ~2000-2009, he should have won MULTIPLE MNC's.

Instead, he's won a grand total of 2 B12 titles. Again, underachiever, overrated, had 5 years after 2005 to be untouchable and has stunk it up 3 years in a row now(while being the highest paid state employee). He's out of people to blame. It's him.

Maybe if he spent a little less time trying to pimp LHN and actually focused on winning games, Texas would have a product worth watching.

[dirk4mvp]

:lol talk about a butthurt post. I didn't realize watching your team win a championship from your couch makes you more qualified to talk about an underachieving coach. Then again, I'm talking to the homerest of homers who didn't even go to Texas and just 2 weeks ago was boasting about them being a top 10 team.

Mack improved recruiting. That's about it. With the perennial top 5 classes he's had through the years and how weak the B12 was from ~2000-2009, he should have won MULTIPLE MNC's.

Instead, he's won a grand total of 2 B12 titles. Again, underachiever, overrated, had 5 years after 2005 to be untouchable and has stunk it up 3 years in a row now(while being the highest paid state employee). He's out of people to blame. It's him.

Maybe if he spent a little less time trying to pimp LHN and actually focused on winning games, Texas would have a product worth watching.

http://gifsoup.com/view/135402/shaq-backboard-o.gif

[Spursfan092120]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Mack step down either before the end of the year or after the year.

[Blake]

When your school wins something, anything then you can judge Mack but until then you don't know what you are talking about.

I hear a phong ringing.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/120765/michael-crabtree.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Mack step down either before the end of the year or after the year.
Good shit from Texas State bruh, whooping on those Vandulls tbh....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao Vito Corleone

":cry I've been a T-shirt Longhorns fan for all my life and that means I know Mack Brownturdfaggit is a good coach more than you do:cry"

If Mack Brown was at Tech, he wouldn't last more than a few years. Tuberville and Leach have both done more at Tech than Brown would ever do. His great recruiting wouldn't look so good when he's asking 4 and 5 star talent to come play in Lubbock Texas for his shit offensive system completely dependent on having a Heisman candidate at QB. It's not a shock Leach's offenses at both OU and Tech regularly bent Mack Brownturdfaggit's teams over.

[baseline bum]

I remember my freshman year at UT in 1997, sitting in the stands and getting ready to watch the Horns pound UCLA's ass. At halftime, as the program lay in ruins, I comtemplated how it had come to that.

Good game tbh :tu

[Spursfan092120]

Shit..they got a lot of work to do. The win over Houston was a good start for being their first game in Div. 1, but they still have a LONG way to go.

[Pelicans78]

Shit..they got a lot of work to do. The win over Houston was a good start for being their first game in Div. 1, but they still have a LONG way to go.

I know the feeling. My alma mater South Alabama is starting its first year in the FBS/Sun Belt and still searching for their first FBS win.

[Spursfan092120]

I thought South Alabama would have no problem with UTSA, tbh..but UTSA is doing better than any of us thought, I think.

[Pelicans78]

I thought South Alabama would have no problem with UTSA, tbh..but UTSA is doing better than any of us thought, I think.

South Alabama had stupid turnovers throughout the game, especially in the red zone. Then they had a dumb personal foul penalty late in the game which allowed UTSA to kick the game winning FG.

[Blake]

Mack is the best salesman in the country, but a shitty Xs and Os coach.

He also codddddles the fuck out of players, asst coaches and daddehs

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Mack "The Coddler" Brownturdfaggit tbh

[benefactor]

Mack is the best salesman in the country, but a shitty Xs and Os coach.

...and anyone who believes otherwise is lying to themselves.

[The Reckoning]

buncho fair weather fans up in here. mack doesnt do shit. he's a facilitator. there's a new coaching staff this year, so if anyone should have fingers pointed at them, it's the assistants for not making sure the players were mentally ready to do their jobs. i wouldnt cry if mack retires. actually i favored it so long as greg "screen on third and long" davis stepped down. this forum really has evolved into an exclusive fair weather bitchers/SEC fanboys forum.

no more substance, no more Reckoning. not that it matters.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Some of us aren't UT fans at all. We're unbiased observers who think it's blatantly obvious Mack Brownturdfaggit sucks when he doesn't have a stud QB to carry the team.

[tlongII]

buncho fair weather fans up in here. mack doesnt do shit. he's a facilitator. there's a new coaching staff this year, so if anyone should have fingers pointed at them, it's the assistants for not making sure the players were mentally ready to do their jobs. i wouldnt cry if mack retires. actually i favored it so long as greg "screen on third and long" davis stepped down. this forum really has evolved into an exclusive fair weather bitchers/SEC fanboys forum.

no more substance, no more Reckoning. not that it matters.

Who hired the assistants? Problems with a program should always be blamed on the head coach. I was pissed off at Mike Riley for letting Danny Langsdorf do the play calling for Oregon State. Guess what? Riley is calling the plays this year and we're 5 and 0!

[benefactor]

For the record...I don't mind Mack staying. As long as he can keep bringing in the players Texas has a shot at being legit. It hasn't worked out over the past few seasons but that doesn't mean it won't again. College football is less about legit coaching and more about legit players. That's why you have all these WR's that can throw a little bit playing QB and succeeding at the college level.

[Clipper Nation]

Disagree completely that college football isn't about coaching..... players come and go at the college level, but coaches like Bowden, Snyder, Woody, Schembechler, Bear, Parseghian, Meyer, Saban, Petersen, etc. keep winning....

[benefactor]

Oh don't get me wrong...there are good coaches...but without the legit players those coaches wouldn't win anything. LSU and Texas have both won titles with Les Miles and Mack Brown at the helm...and Texas had one of the worst offensive coordinators in the nation at the time too. They may not be national championship teams, but you can still have a legit program and win a lot of games with a coach who can coax in the best players year after year. I'd rather be able to bring in the players and deal with Mack instead of going back to where Texas was before he came.

[Clipper Nation]

You can't have legit players without either having a coach like Urban or Saban who can get a bunch of 4- and 5-stars to buy in, or a Snyder/Petersen-type coach who can coach up the 2- and 3-stars to a ridiculous degree, tbh....

[rjv]

Disagree completely that college football isn't about coaching..... players come and go at the college level, but coaches like Bowden, Snyder, Woody, Schembechler, Bear, Parseghian, Meyer, Saban, Petersen, etc. keep winning....

from that list i sure wouldn't include a coach who gets to prep for one down and out traditional power a year and then spend the rest of the season beating up on the likes of nevada and wyoming.

[benefactor]

Texas has proved that wrong. One player won a couple of BCS bowls and a national championship for them. Mack and Greg just stood and watched.

If you have someone who can sell the school to a kiddo, you've got a shot.

[benefactor]

I agree that there are great coaches. I never said there weren't. But having the ability to potentially pull that one difference making player is better than having to deal with whatever the unknown alternative might be.

[Clipper Nation]

from that list i sure wouldn't include a coach who gets to prep for one down and out traditional power a year and then spend the rest of the season beating up on the likes of nevada and wyoming.
First coach ever to win two Bear Bryant awards

78-7 record and two BCS bowl wins at a non-AQ program in a barren recruiting state

Marquee wins over the Big 12, PAC (twice), ACC, and Mtn West champs and the SEC runner-up in recent years

Developed the best quarterback in college football history (Kellen Moore)

That's easily more than any :lol Aggie head coach in recent memory has ever done, tbh.... :cry "But, but, SEC! 1998! The T-Sip Network!" :cry

[ColinB]

from that list i sure wouldn't include a coach who gets to prep for one down and out traditional power a year and then spend the rest of the season beating up on the likes of nevada and wyoming.

Petersen's bowl record and record against top 25 teams doesn't lie.

I can see why an Aggy wouldn't be interested in those things though.

[Clipper Nation]

Not to mention, even the "weakness" of his conference schedule has been blown out of proportion.... Nevada, Fresno State, TCU, Air Force, and (until recently) Hawai'i haven't exactly been pushovers even if their record doesn't always reflect it, tbh.....

[rjv]

First coach ever to win two Bear Bryant awards

78-7 record and two BCS bowl wins at a non-AQ program in a barren recruiting state

Marquee wins over the Big 12, PAC (twice), ACC, and Mtn West champs and the SEC runner-up in recent years

Developed the best quarterback in college football history (Kellen Moore)

That's easily more than any :lol Aggie head coach in recent memory has ever done, tbh.... :cry "But, but, SEC! 1998! The T-Sip Network!" :cry

so? big 12 teams have marquee wins over other big 12 teams every year. the difference is they have to play a tough game the very next week instead of traveling to wyoming for a cakewalk. i'll give petersen credit for taking california 2 star players and getting them to play over their heads but that's all. mt west champs ? really? does any one outside of the mountain west care? the networks sure as hell don't. not sure how the best college QB of all time goes undrafted. he'll have a nice career in the NFL carrying a clipboard that's for sure.

[rjv]

Petersen's bowl record and record against top 25 teams doesn't lie.

I can see why an Aggy wouldn't be interested in those things though.

petersen's a solid coach but i wouldn't mention him amongst the likes of meyer and saban

[Clipper Nation]

so? big 12 teams have marquee wins over other big 12 teams every year.
Except for :lol Aggie, they just had 6-6 seasons every year....

:lol Sticking up for the conference you couldn't wait to leave


the difference is they have to play a tough game the very next week
Newsflash: Kansas, Baylor, and (formerly) Colorado and :lol Aggie haven't traditionally been tough matchups for the real teams in the conference....


instead of traveling to wyoming for a cakewalk.
Instead you just stay at home and purchase cakewalk September wins from FCS schools....


mt west champs ? really? does any one outside of the mountain west care?
Back when we beat TCU in the Fiesta, the Mtn West still had the Frogs, Utah, and BYU, and there was talk of them getting AQ status, tbh....


not sure how the best college QB of all time goes undrafted. he'll have a nice career in the NFL carrying a clipboard that's for sure.
:lol Using NFL results and draft position to determine who the best COLLEGE players were
:lol How'd that theory work out for Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Ki-Jana Carter, Charles Rogers, Courtney Brown, etc.
:lol I guess Kurt Warner and Tom Brady suck because they weren't first round glorified QB's on draft day
:lol Aggie logic

[Clipper Nation]

Oh, and one other thing, :lol Aggiefan.... one of those "non-AQ cupcakes" put up 57 points!!! on your pitiful team this past weekend...

[rjv]

Except for :lol Aggie, they just had 6-6 seasons every year....

:lol Sticking up for the conference you couldn't wait to leave


Newsflash: Kansas, Baylor, and (formerly) Colorado and :lol Aggie haven't traditionally been tough matchups for the real teams in the conference....


Instead you just stay at home and purchase cakewalk September wins from FCS schools....


Back when we beat TCU in the Fiesta, the Mtn West still had the Frogs, Utah, and BYU, and there was talk of them getting AQ status, tbh....


:lol Using NFL results and draft position to determine who the best COLLEGE players were
:lol How'd that theory work out for Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Ki-Jana Carter, Charles Rogers, Courtney Brown, etc.
:lol I guess Kurt Warner and Tom Brady suck because they weren't first round glorified QB's on draft day
:lol Aggie logic

i'm sticking up for all of the other conferences that are significantly better than crappy conferences who have to boast about the few years that the utes (now 4-8 in the Pac 12 since joining), the frogs (who will be a 2nd tier team in the big XII), and BYU were "solid".

teams that play in 'real' conferences get to cakewalk in september if they choose especially if they then have to proceed to play 5 to 6 top 25 teams the rest of the year (and not the traditional one game you have an entire off season to prep for and then the bowl game where the team that usually plays for something more has to try to get up for potato u.)

russell and leaf sure to have way too much hype about them as did andre ware, david klingler, ty detmer and a whole bunch of other kellen moore type QB's who padded stats against DBs that ran a 4.8 forty.

specious reasoning would be judging the greatest all time QB of all time by purely quantitative stats. moore should not even be mentioned in the top 25 of all time

[rjv]

Oh, and one other thing, :lol Aggiefan.... one of those "non-AQ cupcakes" put up 57 points!!! on your pitiful team this past weekend...

nice to see that even you recognize how awful these BCS busters wins are in the overall scheme of things. if it is worth making fun of (which you have), even when that team is being referred to as "this years boise state", then that is strong evidence for supporting my claim that those kinds of wins are not measuring sticks of a programs worth. i sure as hell wasn't impressed by it. if all we did was beat a ranked la tech team each year and then give florida a good game, i would not be impressed at all. i'd feel like boise state fan.

[rjv]

...just realized this thread is way off track. back to the subject at hand. yes, texas is a big dissapointment this year

[lebomb]

5-9 against Bob Stoops. Four of those losses are among the worst blowouts in Texas Longhorn football history. All are the worst against OU in series history. And the record would be the same if both coaches switched programs. Who am I kidding? It would be worse.

Two conference titles at the University of Texas in fifteen years. 2 of 15. Think about it. That's extraordinary. And long before 2012, it was the one statistic I could never really get past. Hardware matters. Mack Brown must have a national championship quality team led by a transcendent all-time quarterback and a NFL roster to win...a conference?

Bob Stoops has won the league with masking tape and saliva stuck to a Paul Thompson bobble head doll.

6-13 in his last 19 Big 12 contests. Frankly, I'd b a little miffed if Texas was 13-6. But we're 6-13. A .316 winning percentage cuts cleanly through all of the bullshit of non-conference scheduling and other assorted nonsense. Texas can't win a third of our conference games over nearly twenty games. That's as close to a scientific sample as we need. We have to run the table the remainder of the year to get to .500. To get to average.

[MannyIsGod]

I really wonder what pisses off Texas fan more: Watching Aggiefan and Techfan all happy and pissing all over UT or that fact that UT does kinda suck. I don't think its so much that the UT football team is overrated as shit right now but the fact that this is happening while A&M (Tech to a lesser degree) are considered surprisingly good.

[DrRich96]

Mack is the best salesman in the country, but a shitty Xs and Os coach.

He also codddddles the fuck out of players, asst coaches and daddehs

Oh guess it's better to lock your players in a shed instead!!!
Sorry Blake but you teed that one up for us!!

LOL all of UT fans that get spoiled over a championship every now and again. Maybe you other guys from Lubbock and Arizona and LA will get to feel that one day

[ColinB]

5-9 against Bob Stoops. Four of those losses are among the worst blowouts in Texas Longhorn football history. All are the worst against OU in series history. And the record would be the same if both coaches switched programs. Who am I kidding? It would be worse.

Two conference titles at the University of Texas in fifteen years. 2 of 15. Think about it. That's extraordinary. And long before 2012, it was the one statistic I could never really get past. Hardware matters. Mack Brown must have a national championship quality team led by a transcendent all-time quarterback and a NFL roster to win...a conference?

Bob Stoops has won the league with masking tape and saliva stuck to a Paul Thompson bobble head doll.

6-13 in his last 19 Big 12 contests. Frankly, I'd b a little miffed if Texas was 13-6. But we're 6-13. A .316 winning percentage cuts cleanly through all of the bullshit of non-conference scheduling and other assorted nonsense. Texas can't win a third of our conference games over nearly twenty games. That's as close to a scientific sample as we need. We have to run the table the remainder of the year to get to .500. To get to average.

If you're going to copy and paste, you should probably cite your source.

[lebomb]

If you're going to copy and paste, you should probably cite your source.


http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2012/10/15/3504670/when-you-write-a-piece-like-this-Mack-Brown-resignation-fire-Texas-football

[Blake]

Oh guess it's better to lock your players in a shed instead!!!
Sorry Blake but you teed that one up for us!!

Read this:
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=4787194

...which yes, if true is better than coddling players, in my opinion.

As evidenced by the number of pussy longhorns that have been losers at the NFL level, it's clear that the coddling does no good for these kids.


LOL all of UT fans that get spoiled over a championship every now and again. Maybe you other guys from Lubbock and Arizona and LA will get to feel that one day

Probably not any time soon.

but I think it's easier to respect a program that has done more with much less than a program that underachieves year in/out.

It's also why Tech beating Aggy year in/out for the last 20+ years tasted so good.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

LOL all of UT fans that get spoiled over a championship every now and again. Maybe you other guys from Lubbock and Arizona and LA will get to feel that one day
I've experienced it with basketball but when I decided to attend UA it wasn't with the expectation of a football championship. In the extremely unlikely event I do get to experience a football championship, it'll be a with a much better coach than Mack Brownturdfaggit.

[Bill_Brasky]

I've experienced it with basketball but when I decided to attend UA it wasn't with the expectation of a football championship. In the extremely unlikely event I do get to experience a football championship, it'll be a with a much better coach than Mack Brownturdfaggit.

.....and you'll have a degree on your wall to point to and be proud of instead of a shirt in your closet.

[baseline bum]

I've experienced it with basketball but when I decided to attend UA it wasn't with the expectation of a football championship. In the extremely unlikely event I do get to experience a football championship, it'll be a with a much better coach than Mack Brownturdfaggit.

How many doors did Mike Bibby open for you with that performance? :cry I know Toby Bailey and Ed O'Bannon gave me an extra thing to throw on the resume with that 95 title :cry Shit felt good and I hope dat nigga Bazz doesn't let me down this year like Farmar and Afflalo.

[ThePop]

.....and you'll have a degree on your wall to point to and be proud of instead of a shirt in your closet.

Unfortunately for you, a degree from Tech is worth the same as that shirt.

[Kermit]

no shit. everyone's flipping out after one game. UT has been alot worse in the past. get over it and move on, people.

One game. Try three fucking seasons worth of ineptitude and entitlement. But how does Mack's dick taste?

[Kermit]

im sure firing coaches after losing one rivalry game really helps out programs, amirite?

Were you drunk when you wrote this shit?

[Blake]

Unfortunately for you, a degree from Tech is worth the same as that shirt.

:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

But how does Mack's dick taste?

Probably how any other turdfaggit's dick would taste, tbh.

[Bill_Brasky]

Unfortunately for you, a degree from Tech is worth the same as that shirt.

That's a very aggy thing to say.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And a very UT t-shirt fan thing to say.

[symple19]

It's eerie how similar some of the posts are in this thread to some of the ones on Auburn forums (on both sides). Difference is Auburn fan only took two years to turn on Cheese nips while it's taken Horn fan much, much longer to turn on mack. Bottom line is that both schools have top talent that is being totally and completely wasted.

Of course, the Horns are at least competitive (against most teams) and probably still going to a bowl, while Auburn is a bloody aborted fetus being kicked around the hospital floor by the janitorial staff


I am actively rooting for Auburn to lose the rest of its games and for people to not go to games so the university president gets the message and completely cleans house. They are that bad and don't deserve the support. I hate it for the players but those kids are, unfortunately, part of the problem, too. I've seen them give up in two games and melt away late in the 4th in two others. While I'm sympathetic that they have to play for a bible thumping, simpleton, yes-man, they could at least leave it out on the field but they don't.

I definitely understand angry horn fans point of view, and lol at the mack defenders. There are cheese dip defenders as well, using the exact same language that you retards are

[Blake]

Chizik graduated from the Mackbrownturdfaggit Institute of Coddleology

[Kermit]

Chizik graduated from the Mackbrownturdfaggit Institute of Coddleology

Fucking sucks that Texas lost any chance of having Muschamp coach that team.

[ThePop]

And a very UT t-shirt fan thing to say.

Interesting

[Darth_Pelican]

Mack Brown says he has no plans to retire

by Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas—Two days after another whipping at the hands of rival Oklahoma, Texas coach Mack Brown dismissed any suggestions he may be ready to retire, saying he’s still got energy and the backing of the school and its big boosters.
Brown said Monday that several prominent boosters told him keep his head up and keep fighting after the 63-21 blowout, the third time in Brown’s tenure the Sooners have hung more than 60 points on the Longhorns.
Texas’ second consecutive loss dropped the Longhorns (4-2, 0-2 Big 12) to 17-14 overall under Brown since 2010, and raised new speculation that the 61-year-old who led Texas to the 2005 national championship may consider retiring.
Brown is under contract under 2020. At more than $5 million per year, he is one of the highest-paid coaches in the country.
"I have my energy. I’m moving forward," Brown said. "I know I’ve got time to fix it and I know I can."
Brown would not say which boosters reached out to him, but added that he heard the same positive message from many former Texas players.
"I’m way too competitive and (have) way too much pride to leave something bad," Brown said, adding he still thinks Texas can win 10 games this season
Brown has heard rumblings about his job before but nothing truly serious. From 2000-2004, his teams lost five in a row to Oklahoma, but those teams still won at least nine games every year. Texas ended the losing streak the season the Longhorns won the national title and the dissension melted away.
The strongest speculation about his possible retirement came in 2009-2010.
Texas had a coach-in-waiting in defensive coordinator Will Muschamp in 2009, the season Texas lost in the BCS title game. Some thought had Texas won that game, Brown would retire with his second championship.
Texas fell hard to 5-7 the following season and Muschamp bolted for the head coaching job at Florida. Brown said he met with school President Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds after that season.
"When I decided to come back, I told them it was going to take some time," Brown said. "We sat down and had hard discussions. They were 100 percent in their support. They said, ‘We want you to stay and we’ll give you the time and money to do it.’ That’s not an issue."
Brown said he doesn’t face the constant pressure coaches do at other schools.
"I’ve got great bosses. This job isn’t like the others," Brown said. "I’m the luckiest guy in the world."
Texas gave Brown his initial $5 million-per year deal in December 2009 after a 12-0 regular season but before the BCS game loss. The contract was extended it four years in January 2012 after Texas rebounded from the losing season to go 8-5 in 2011.
After Saturday’s loss to Oklahoma, when the television cameras often caught Brown looking frustrated on the sideline, the coach clearly expected his team to hear speculation about his future. He told his players he wasn’t going anywhere.
"He told us he wasn’t going to quit and didn’t want to see any quit in us, either," offensive lineman Mason Walters said.
Brown also had a message on Monday for his top assistant coaches, offensive coordinator Bryan Harsin and defensive coordinator Manny Diaz, whose unit is on pace to be statistically the worst in school history. The Longhorns surrendered nearly 700 yards against Oklahoma and have given up at least 31 points in four consecutive games.
"At this school you will be really criticized for not doing well in a ball game. You take it and man up to it it’s the reason you get paid a lot. It’s part of the deal here," Brown said. "You guys want to be head coaches, learn now, because you are going to get some questions later."
Brown got a bit of good news after the loss when quarterback David Ash was cleared to return to practice despite an injured wrist on his left, non-throwing arm.
Ash left the game in the fourth quarter after taking a hit and team doctors initially worried the arm was broken because of the severe swelling. X-rays showed no fractures and Ash was taking snaps from center on Sunday.
Ash said Monday he’ll play this week against Baylor (3-2, 0-2).
Any criticism of Brown and speculation about his job should "stop," Ash said.
"He’s a winner. He’s a competitor. He wants to stay positive," Ash said.

[Blake]

Yeah, at $5 mill a year thru 2020 he'd be stupid to retire.

Funny to see the boosters run the reverse coddle on Mack.

[Kermit]

Mediocrity is okay within the program. Why have accountability? So long as Scrooge McDodds can swim in his sea of money. The submarine talk is horrendous. It's everything that's wrong with Texas encapsulated within a horrible analogy. Of course it's all about Mack. Thin-skinned Mack who can't take criticism. CEO Mack who can't bring himself to tear down these helpless children. Who won't discipline them. Who lets them bask in the adulation of the LHN while pretending the outside world and its criticism doesn't exist, or if it does exist it's only "bad fans" who want to irreparably harm what he has built. The irony is that he's the one dropping the nuke. He's the one with the sledgehammer in his hands. He's not Bobby Bowden. That's too kind. I've heard Phillip Fulmer, but that comparison is too kind as well.

[BUMP]

I experienced something you will never experience. I watched the team I have followed since I was 8 years old win a national championship. I was a fan back in 1983 when we lost to Georgia. I was a fan back when the wheels fell off the program back in 1984. I was a fan and had to endure losing to Miami back in 1990 cotton bowl. I endured McWilliams, Machovic and Mack having blowout losses to OU.

Fact is it was all worth it see us win the MNC. You can say what you want, but Mack is a better coach than anything you have ever had at Tech and if he were at Tech win or lose he would be a legend just like he is at Texas. When your school wins something, anything then you can judge Mack but until then you don't know what you are talking about.

He needs to be replaced, there is no doubt about it, but he goes out with dignity and respect he has earned.

:lmao

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

UT is seriously only a couple of years away from a national title. if they played to their full potential, they could have played for one this year.

:lol

[ThePop]

Full potential = 10 or 11 wins this year. Now, 8 wins if we're lucky.

[boutons_deux]

Mack makes over $1M if the asst coaches make $600K.

TX football clears probably $30M/year. The players get paid nothing.