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TE
10-16-2012, 01:58 AM
Thought I'd make a thread about this year's Nobel Prize winners. Fascinating stuff.

With the exception of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry and Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine, I'm not familiar with the other prizes. I read some on the Nobel Prize for economical sciences and found it incredible in it's application to things like organ transplants (any of those amateur or professional economists that post here want to explain how this works exactly?). The Nobel Prize in Chemistry (Really Biochemistry) for G-protein coupled receptors was long overdue imo. Upon the elucidation of the GCPR and it's function, the world of medicine as we know today changed for the better.


2012THE NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSICS (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2012/)
Serge Haroche, David J. Wineland

The Nobel Prize in Physics 2012 was awarded jointly to Serge Haroche and David J. Wineland "for ground-breaking experimental methods that enable measuring and manipulation of individual quantum systems"

THE NOBEL PRIZE IN CHEMISTRY (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/2012/)
Robert J. Lefkowitz, Brian K. Kobilka

The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2012 was awarded jointly to Robert J. Lefkowitz and Brian K. Kobilka "for studies of G-protein-coupled receptors" :worthy::worthy::worthy:

THE NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSIOLOGY OR MEDICINE (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2012/)
Sir John B. Gurdon, Shinya Yamanaka

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2012 was awarded jointly to Sir John B. Gurdon and Shinya Yamanaka "for the discovery that mature cells can be reprogrammed to become pluripotent"

THE NOBEL PRIZE IN LITERATURE (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2012/)
Mo Yan

The Nobel Prize in Literature 2012 was awarded to Mo Yan "who with hallucinatory realism merges folk tales, history and the contemporary"

THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2012/)
European Union (EU)

The Nobel Peace Prize 2012 was awarded to European Union (EU) "for over six decades contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".

THE PRIZE IN ECONOMIC SCIENCES (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/2012/)
Alvin E. Roth, Lloyd S. Shapley

The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 2012 was awarded jointly to Alvin E. Roth and Lloyd S. Shapley "for the theory of stable allocations and the practice of market design"


http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/all/

MannyIsGod
10-16-2012, 02:51 AM
:lmao @ the EU and former winner Barak Obama bombing the shit out of Libya. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL what a fucking joke of a prize.

MannyIsGod
10-16-2012, 02:51 AM
I did hear the conference about the chem prize though. That shit is cool.

TE
10-16-2012, 03:12 AM
:lmao @ the EU and former winner Barak Obama bombing the shit out of Libya. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL what a fucking joke of a prize.

I thought the prize lost A LOT of credibility when Obama was awarded back in 09 IMO.

:lmao but yeah the EU winning, don't know what to say about that

baseline bum
10-16-2012, 03:51 AM
Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize; it has been a completely worthless award since. Still, LOL Obama winning it for not being Bush.

FuzzyLumpkins
10-16-2012, 03:51 AM
:lmao @ the EU and former winner Barak Obama bombing the shit out of Libya. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL what a fucking joke of a prize.

I get what you are saying to a certain extent but considering the past 2500 years of history having the UK, France, Poland, Germany, Italy, Spain, and all the other member nations working towards a common purpose is monumental in achievement. Only 70 years ago those nations were the setting of world war 2 which saw more violent deaths than any other episode in history. You can go all the way back to Alexander, Rome, a millenium of Franco-Brittania and Franco Prussian conflict. It's quite an achievement in that context.

I also think it's unfair to say that the EU bombed anything. It was France and to a lesser extent the UK that bombed the hell out of Libya.

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 07:07 AM
I get what you are saying to a certain extent but considering the past 2500 years of history having the UK, France, Poland, Germany, Italy, Spain, and all the other member nations working towards a common purpose is monumental in achievement.guess they had to honor the achievement before it falls apart and Europe is again riven by fairly predictable rivalries and resentments.

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 07:12 AM
it's kind of like when they give an Oscar to some actor or actress who's about to die or conceivably might

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 07:54 AM
EU as peacemaker? what about the Balkans?

this morning in Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2012/10/15/the-nobel-prize-fantasy-the-european-union-as-a-peacekeeper/) Doug Bandow pointed out that premature recognition of seceding territories surely helped precipitate the war, the EU was essentially powerless to limit violence and war, and, once it started, did little but hold Washington's coat while it bombed the shit out of Serbia.

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 07:56 AM
The poor, suffering American taxpayers continue to defend the Europeans from phantom threats even though long ago the latter were well able to protect themselves. Today the EU has a larger population and GDP than America. Although the EU played an important role in the continent’s peaceful development, the U.S. spent so much for so long to provide a military wall behind which Western Europe could prosper. A Nobel “shout-out” to the American people would seem to be in order.http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2012/10/15/the-nobel-prize-fantasy-the-european-union-as-a-peacekeeper/2/

Latarian Milton
10-16-2012, 09:44 AM
nobel physics prize is a joke since it's only awarded to those tired old alzheimer-plagued shitbags who're gonna die soon. the nobel prize might be the most prestigious award in the world that every scientist or novelist wants to win, but if you're a physicist you must hope that day (you winning the nobel physics prize) won't come too soon tbh

moreover, awarding the literature prize to a chink is an insult to the past winners TBH

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 09:46 AM
moreover, awarding the literature prize to a chink is an insult to the past winners TBHhow so?

FYM
10-16-2012, 09:59 AM
Not recognizing the role of EU in maintaining peace inside European frontiers is a sign of a deep lack of general culture at best.

Stupid illiterates.

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 10:02 AM
Not recognizing the role of EU in maintaining peace inside European frontiers is a sign of a deep lack of general culture at best.not recognizing the role of the US in protecting that peace is a gross oversight to say the least, and awarding the EU the Nobel Peace prize confers more ridiculousness than honor, tbh.

FYM
10-16-2012, 10:09 AM
not recognizing the role of the US in protecting that peace is a gross oversight to say the least, and awarding the EU the Nobel Peace prize confers more ridiculousness than honor, tbh.

because you are an illiterate stupid fuck who does not understand the importance of EU creation in the peace process in Europe.

First of, giving the prize to EU has nothing to do with the role of the US in the world peace and second I'll be thrilled to know why EU prize confers to ridiculousness.

TeyshaBlue
10-16-2012, 10:11 AM
Oh look. A new sock puppet.

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 10:15 AM
First of, giving the prize to EU has nothing to do with the role of the US in the world peace and second I'll be thrilled to know why EU prize confers to ridiculousness.racial cleansing in the Balkans and the war over Kosovo come to mind as fairly recent historical counterexamples to the EU's peacemaking prowess.

FYM
10-16-2012, 12:06 PM
racial cleansing in the Balkans and the war over Kosovo come to mind as fairly recent historical counterexamples to the EU's peacemaking prowess.

First of Serbia is not part of the EU and I do believe if it was the case like Croatia, Albania... a lot of the drama could have been avoided. Second EU is still a work in progress, the lack of military force has been highlighted as one of EU top issue in terms of integration, it doesn't remove at all the positive influence on the EU peace between its member. Denying that is just plain stupid.

Winehole23
10-16-2012, 12:23 PM
don't think anyone denied it. but is surely oversold, and perhaps premature. give it another 100 years and get back to me.

boutons_deux
10-16-2012, 12:39 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2012/10/15/the-nobel-prize-fantasy-the-european-union-as-a-peacekeeper/2/

Yeah, right, America, or any country, sacrifices itself, acts against its own best interests, to help other countries.

SA210
10-16-2012, 12:57 PM
:lmao @ the EU and former winner Barak Obama bombing the shit out of Libya. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL what a fucking joke of a prize.

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DMC
10-16-2012, 02:39 PM
Every time I see comments about Obama's prize, I am reminded of the old Finnish woman in a restaurant who asked me "why Obama win prize? All he do is be neeeegger". She didn't even look around after saying it.

FuzzyLumpkins
10-16-2012, 05:11 PM
guess they had to honor the achievement before it falls apart and Europe is again riven by fairly predictable rivalries and resentments.

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FuzzyLumpkins
10-16-2012, 05:13 PM
racial cleansing in the Balkans and the war over Kosovo come to mind as fairly recent historical counterexamples to the EU's peacemaking prowess.

Did they claim that the EU was an external peacemaker. Better yet, sunshine, what/who do you think should have gotten it?

FYM
10-16-2012, 10:21 PM
don't think anyone denied it. but is surely oversold, and perhaps premature. give it another 100 years and get back to me.

:lmao since when one need 160 years to give a prize ? your comeback is pathetic. In 60 years of existence EU members have lived in peace which didn't happen since forever, just that is already a great achievement.

Winehole23
10-17-2012, 08:00 AM
well, don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back.

Winehole23
10-17-2012, 08:05 AM
:lmao since when one need 160 years to give a prize ? your comeback is pathetic. In 60 years of existence EU members have lived in peace which didn't happen since forever, just that is already a great achievement.I was being generous. The EU and European peace could be conversation pieces within twenty years.

Winehole23
10-17-2012, 08:07 AM
European peace for 60 years is impressive. Doubt you could have done it without the US umbrella of defense, though.

Winehole23
10-17-2012, 08:12 AM
Did they claim that the EU was an external peacemaker.lol characterizing the Balkans as external to Europe and Europe as external to the conflict, when in fact hasty European recognition set the fuse and ham handed European diplomacy worsened it.


Better yet, sunshine, what/who do you think should have gotten it?No opinion on that. Isn't it customary to give the award to people?

FuzzyLumpkins
10-17-2012, 02:59 PM
lol characterizing the Balkans as external to Europe and Europe as external to the conflict, when in fact hasty European recognition set the fuse and ham handed European diplomacy worsened it.

No opinion on that. Isn't it customary to give the award to people?

:lol not knowing the EU member states not including the former Yugoslavian states. What do external mean?

the only characterization is you with 'fuse' and 'ham fisted' poetry boy. if you are going to be poetic learn what you are doing.

FuzzyLumpkins
10-17-2012, 03:02 PM
I was being generous. The EU and European peace could be conversation pieces within twenty years.

i9R09GVzTCA

You are as gracious as a dirty toilet seat.

velik_m
10-18-2012, 01:33 PM
EU as peacemaker? what about the Balkans?

this morning in Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2012/10/15/the-nobel-prize-fantasy-the-european-union-as-a-peacekeeper/) Doug Bandow pointed out that premature recognition of seceding territories surely helped precipitate the war, the EU was essentially powerless to limit violence and war, and, once it started, did little but hold Washington's coat while it bombed the shit out of Serbia.

First: Who the fuck is Doug Bandow and the fuck does he know? Slovenia declared independence on June 25th, Yugoslavian army attacked on June 26th, Germany has not recognized Slovenia until December that same year. Maybe there would be less bloodshed if USA wouldn't be such pals with Miloševič and embargoed the new states from getting weapons for defense. If it's one thing you can count on in USA foreign policy, it's that they always pick the wrong side.


Second: I am so putting "2012 Nobel Peace prize" on my CV

rjv
10-18-2012, 03:05 PM
the Norwegian Peace Council has called for the resignation of the head of the nobel committee after it awarded the peace prize to the EU. the peace council said, "Granting the EU the Nobel Peace Prize for 2012 indicates its highly political dimension, awarding it to a project that for the past year has proven to represent the opposite of peace. The EU suffers from an extensive democratic deficit, with violations of human rights along increasing social inequality."

FuzzyLumpkins
10-18-2012, 07:53 PM
the Norwegian Peace Council has called for the resignation of the head of the nobel committee after it awarded the peace prize to the EU. the peace council said, "Granting the EU the Nobel Peace Prize for 2012 indicates its highly political dimension, awarding it to a project that for the past year has proven to represent the opposite of peace. The EU suffers from an extensive democratic deficit, with violations of human rights along increasing social inequality."

Norway is not a member of the EU. FWIW, Norway is about as close to true socialism as you will find.

Latarian Milton
10-19-2012, 12:58 AM
the peace prize should go to US every year imho if it's eligible to be awarded to an organization rather than a natural person. w/o US regulating the whole shit the world would've seen 6 world wars already, with the 7th coming soon