DOMA ruled unconstitutional - again

[MannyIsGod]

:( :( :( Judicial activism :( :( :(

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/justice/new-york-appeals-court-doma/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[Th'Pusher]

Supreme Court to decide this session?

[z0sa]

There's no way it is constitutional. None. Christians need to get over it already and look to their Bibles:

Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

[Jacob1983]

Why not just let marriage be a state and local issue?

[boutons_deux]

Why not just let marriage be a state and local issue?

Boner and Repugs made it a Federal issue.

[Wild Cobra]

Why not just let marriage be a state and local issue?
It automatically becomes a federal issue, by constitution. At least I believe that is the interpretation.

Article. IV.

Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Section. 2.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

[MannyIsGod]

Because the constitution provides every citizen with equal protection above the rights of states.

[TeyshaBlue]

Because the constitution provides every citizen with equal protection above the rights of states.

'zactly.

[FromWayDowntown]

Because the constitution provides every citizen with equal protection above the rights of states.

'sceptin homos.

[ChumpDumper]

Why not just let marriage be a state and local issue?Why involve government in marriage at all?

[Wild Cobra]

That's what we need to do. Get government out of marriage, and other aspects of out private lives.

[dbestpro]

The solution lies in the government, both federal and state, getting out of the marriage business. All unions at the state and fed level should be considered a civil union. Marriages should be rituals performed in churches. If you belong to a gay church and you are wed under the beliefs of that church, then so be it. To do this any other way will always infringe the religious beliefs of one over another. By the government not recognizing anything but civil unions it fixes the constitution issue, as well.

[boutons_deux]

"By the government not recognizing anything but civil unions it fixes the constitution issue"

The French laugh at this American childish theatre. They get married in Church (or not), which isn't recognized and then get married before a civil authority for legal recognition. Everybody's happy, God and Caesar.

[TeyshaBlue]

"By the government not recognizing anything but civil unions it fixes the constitution issue"

The French laugh at this American childish theatre. They get married in Church (or not), which isn't recognized and then get married before a civil authority for legal recognition. Everybody's happy, God and Caesar.


Oh good. Something else the french think that I don't give a flying fuck about.

[mavs>spurs]

big win for some of you guys in this thread

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why involve government in marriage at all?

this. marriage is a religious institution.

[TeyshaBlue]

this. marriage is a religious institution.

The legal fences around marriage, ie taxes and benefits seem to pull the Fed into the process.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The legal fences around marriage, ie taxes and benefits seem to pull the Fed into the process.

Yeah. It is a widespread cultural institution. I can see the necessity given the joint raising of children.

[MannyIsGod]

big win for some of you guys in this thread

Yup. Its a big win for any American who supports equal rights. :lol homophobic child.

[DMX7]

Why not just let marriage be a state and local issue?

Why not just let slavery be a state and local issue?

[mavs>spurs]

Yup. Its a big win for any American who supports equal rights. :lol homophobic child.

homosexual obese sycophant

[FuzzyLumpkins]

homosexual obese sycophant

you posture so much as being an macho alpha male that you come across as a weak beta homosexual. if you weren't so blatant it wouldn't come across as as much of an act.

[MannyIsGod]

homosexual obese sycophant

Try harder. Maybe it'll work!

[Latarian Milton]

marriage is a federal issue because of interstate marriages which are very common these days, and which would otherwise be impossible due to the discrepancies of marriage laws between different states.

[Jacob1983]

The only reason why homos want to be able to get married is because of money. They want the same tax breaks and handouts that straight married couples. It's not about equality. If it was about equality, homos would support polygamy. Homos are just butt hurt(yep, I said it) because they are not getting tax breaks, handouts, and benefits from Uncle Sam.

I laugh when people use the "slavery should be an issue for the states" argument when someone says that marriage and abortion should be left up to the states. Slavery would never get on a ballot in America, bitch.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The only reason why homos want to be able to get married is because of money. They want the same tax breaks and handouts that straight married couples. It's not about equality. If it was about equality, homos would support polygamy. Homos are just butt hurt(yep, I said it) because they are not getting tax breaks, handouts, and benefits from Uncle Sam.

I laugh when people use the "slavery should be an issue for the states" argument when someone says that marriage and abortion should be left up to the states. Slavery would never get on a ballot in America, bitch.

They want the same thing but its not about equality?

[boutons_deux]

Jacob is vet, explains a lot.

[Jacob1983]

Homos are hypocrites and borderline bigots if they gladly support gay marriage but look down on and don't support polygamy. Homos are suppose to be for equality and tolerance. I don't see equality and tolerance if they look down on polygamy and polygamy enthusiasts.

[Spurminator]

The only reason why homos want to be able to get married is because of money. They want the same tax breaks and handouts that straight married couples. It's not about equality.

It seems like you're trying the Troll thing but you're only marginally good at it. Consider that my way of giving you the benefit of the doubt and not taking you for a really stupid person.

[ChumpDumper]

So Jacob is either against equality or for bestiality.

[Jacob1983]

It's 2012, brah. Do whatever makes you happy. I was just saying that gay people just want tax breaks, benefits, and handouts from Uncle Sam just like straight people get if they ar married. I say give them that shit and that be the end of it. No more bitching about marriage and the family unit.

[ChumpDumper]

It's 2012, brah. Do whatever makes you happy. I was just saying that gay people just want tax breaks, benefits, and handouts from Uncle Sam just like straight people get if they ar married. I say give them that shit and that be the end of it. No more bitching about marriage and the family unit.So you're for gay marriage, you just want to bitch about gays for no particular reason.

[Trainwreck2100]

So you're for gay marriage, you just want to bitch about gays for no particular reason.
he's most likely saying give them what they want but don't call it marriage

[Jacob1983]

I'm saying that on the contracts or legal documents, it can be labeled as "marriage" but don't expect every American to accept two homos as a married couple. Yes, it's harsh and bigoted but it's true. I don't give a shit if homos get married but in my mind when I picture a wedding, I view a man as the groom and a woman as the bride. If that makes me a minion of Satan, then guilty as charged. Besides, a marriage is a contract to begin with. The only reason why most people get married is because of legal shit and benefits. They want their piece of the pie.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm saying that on the contracts or legal documents, it can be labeled as "marriage" but don't expect every American to accept two homos as a married couple. Yes, it's harsh and bigoted but it's true. I don't give a shit if homos get married but in my mind when I picture a wedding, I view a man as the groom and a woman as the bride. If that makes me a minion of Satan, then guilty as charged. Besides, a marriage is a contract to begin with. The only reason why most people get married is because of legal shit and benefits. They want their piece of the pie.So much straw....

[Edward]

I like how Gaycob claims to not care about gay marriage yet every post of his about gay marriage is laced with angry diction that makes it obvious the thought of gay marriage makes him sick.

[MannyIsGod]

And again.