Official LA Lakers vs Sacramento Kings game thread

[irishock]

10 years after '02 man, now Dwight gets to debut against the same team that's looking to relocate to vagina beach

[purplengold]

he really gon show up today? gotta watch it

[Venti Quattro]

Dwight is a gametime decision today. Also,

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377470_434864903237723_736558649_n.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[LkrFan]

^ :lol

[purplengold]

hill n Howard gon be best friends

[ace3g]

LA Times writer said Dwight will play tonight

[racm]

Lakers by 40, tbh

[nevetslc]

https://twitter.com/lakersreporter

Mike Trudell ‏@LakersReporter

Official: @DwightHoward WILL start tonight, making his Lakers debut at Staples vs. SAC.



Lakers Dwight warming up: http://instagram.com/p/REEVQMLOwV/

http://distilleryimage9.instagram.com/cccae5761bda11e2949722000a1f90e1_7.jpg

[Venti Quattro]

:lol is he practicing to shoot three pointers?

[racm]

Venti Quattro: He's well within the line. Certainly better than shooting with a foot on the line.

[ElNono]

:lol is he practicing to shoot three pointers?

:lol Mik:lol Br:lolwn
:lol str:loltch f:lolur

[JohnnyMax]

http://i.imgur.com/o4VUy.jpg

[LkrFan]

http://i.imgur.com/o4VUy.jpg

:lol

[LkrFan]

Venti Quattro (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17094): He's well within the line. Certainly better than shooting with a foot on the line.

racism - you knew what he meant. :lol

:downspin:

[LkrFan]

Kobe's shooting percentage has increased since Nash's signing. By my unoficial count, he's shooting 24/43 - for a blistering 55.8% :wow

[racm]

LkrFan: Small sample sizes man. Expect it to level off in the mid 40s.

Also, no surprise the Lakers lost most of the lead after Duh:loln checked in

[venky]

Kobe's shooting percentage has increased since Nash's signing. By my unoficial count, he's shooting 24/43 - for a blistering 55.8% :wow
It's because he can focus on scoring now and pick his spots. He finally has his Scottie Pippen to run the offense.

[ElNono]

Kobe's shooting percentage has increased since Nash's signing. By my unoficial count, he's shooting 24/43 - for a blistering 55.8% :wow

Lakers ain't going to be playing Golden State, Utah and the Kings all season.

[racm]

It's because he can focus on scoring now and pick his spots. He finally has his Scottie Pippen to run the offense.

He was the Pippen to Shaq's MJ in the threepeat, tbh...


Lakers ain't going to be playing Golden State, Utah and the Kings all season.

And yet they're 0-5 :downspin:

[ElNono]

And yet they're 0-5 :downspin:

Because their bench sucks... you really can't tell who are the actual subs or the scrubs trying to make camp... but even though they're old, I expect coach Brown to run the starters to the ground.

[Banzai]

Because their bench sucks... you really can't tell who are the actual subs or the scrubs trying to make camp... but even though they're old, I expect coach Brown to run the starters to their grave.

fixed

[ElNono]

Brooks still in the league?

[Banzai]

Brooks still in the league?

China.

[ElNono]

Kings can't buy a call in the paint..

[racm]

Because their bench sucks... you really can't tell who are the actual subs or the scrubs trying to make camp... but even though they're old, I expect coach Brown to run the starters to the ground.

Jamis:loln
Duh:loln
Damn, they're breaking out most of their regular rotation and they're still getting outmatched by the Kings second unit

[ElNono]

Sacramento is truly awful... Marcus "The Microwave" Thorton is probably the player with the highest basketball IQ there

[ElNono]

lol Cousins 4 fouls in the 1st half

[racm]

Sacramento is truly awful... Marcus "The Microwave" Thorton is probably the player with the highest basketball IQ there

Wizards West, tbh... though even the Wizards are righting their ship by trading away McGee/Young and waiving Blatche...

[Banzai]

nice dunk..is it me or does dwight run down the floor faster than bynum?

[ElNono]

nice dunk..is it me or does dwight run down the floor faster than bynum?

When he's not trying to get the coach fired, he does, tbh

[ElNono]

:lol Kobe thinking he's Magic Johnson

[LakerHater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5xpN1OCEAEmECP.png

[ElNono]

Cousins 5 fouls and it's not even halftime yet :lol

[racm]

Bynum's slow and lumbering, which is why the Lakers' P&R defense got shredded to pieces by Parker last year. Dwight's agile.

Also, :lmao 2-7 from the line

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Kobe to Dwight oop
:lol NBA

[purplengold]

we gotta set Dwight up wit a guy ta teach him free throw like how Shaq was gettin lessons on it

[DeadlyDynasty]

"Buh-buh-but Dwight won't be healthy till Christmas:cry"

[PGDynasty24]

This is some NBA 2K12 shit

[Venti Quattro]

I've seen enough. Mike, do you job and park the bus.

[Latarian Milton]

so the lakers are getting their 1st or 2nd win in the preseason tonight?

[Venti Quattro]

so the lakers gonna win their 1st or 2nd game in the preseason?

They are probably losing this game...

[DeadlyDynasty]

I hope they go 0-7 in the preseason so people have something to talk about.

[LakerHater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5x3stbCcAA8OA2.png

[ElNono]

I hope they go 0-7 in the preseason so people have something to talk about.

tbh, there's always something to talk about

[ElNono]

Is Steve Blake the new Luke Walton?

[ElNono]

There goes Nash...

[ElNono]

Jimmer Jam appearance

[ElNono]

Back to St:lolv:lol Bl:lolk:lol

[ElNono]

lol Kings

[ElNono]

:lol det bench

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Lakers losing to the Kings WITH Dwight

[irishock]

I thought the Lakers would break the 72-10 record?

[Bynumite]

Blow up the team i say.

[ElNono]

Not too impressed, tbh... I might have to revisit my West rankings... I had OKC and Clippers above the Lakeshow, but I might need to put Denver above them too...

[ElNono]

Looks like Mike Brown wants to win this game

[Banzai]

the hate is strong in you lol.

[ElNono]

the hate is strong in you lol.

Not hating tbh... I actually hope Nash does well... he's just having fun out there :cry

[Banzai]

Not hating tbh... I actually hope Nash does well... he's just having fun out there :cry

haha..I predict the season is going to be a long and frustrating one.. tbh

[irishock]

Lakers starters can't beat the Kings even if they try

[ElNono]

Cousins is such a waste of talent, tbh

[ElNono]

How did he not foul out? I thought he had 5 fouls?

[irishock]

WTF, Artest is in shape!!

[Banzai]

Cousins is such a waste of talent, tbh

probably would do better on a winning team.

[ElNono]

probably would do better on a winning team.

Maybe. He's a mental midget though... Artest needs to give him his shrink's info...

[Banzai]

Nash just having fun during the preseas0n

[venky]

:lol Lakers

[ElNono]

Here comes Eddie Jordan coaching.... lol Mike Brown watching

[Bynumite]

Kobe 3 to tie the game, Lakers win the preseason title in overtime.

[irishock]

Lakers need a 3pt shot.

Odds to chuck an airball up:

Kobe 1.5 in 1
Steve 6 in 1
Metta 10 in 1
Gasol 150 in 1

[ElNono]

Stage set up for Kobe, per the par usual goods

[Venti Quattro]

Preseason champs, bitches

[ElNono]

:lol

[ElNono]

Fun was had, tbh... good game

[da_suns_fan]

Typical Bryant Brick.


Horrible shot.

[irishock]

Watch Kobe miss another 3 here

[Venti Quattro]

:lol 6-0

Preseason champs! We're unbeatable. Yes, WE

[da_suns_fan]

Mike Brown will be fired by All Star break.

[Bynumite]

Patented fadeaway triple brick.

[irishock]

Lol Lakers falling to 0-6, so they air some classic Spurs music

[lefty]

Typical Bryant Brick.


Horrible shot.
The goods

[irishock]

LOL

[Venti Quattro]

Kobrick at his finest crofl.

[Bynumite]

First preseason win coming at the expense of the monkeyballers.

[lefty]

Lol at Lakers TV showing exclusively Lakers highlights after a loss


:lmao

[Venti Quattro]

Lol at Lakers TV showing exclusively Lakers highlights after a loss

:lmao

We're sorry that the Lakers are the only team that has command to reach Algeria.

[lefty]

We're sorry that the Lakers are the only team that has command to reach Algeria.
Kanadah TBH

[irishock]

Lol Lakers turning down Rick Adelman who would've had great chemistry designing the offense with Nash for Mike Brown

[Venti Quattro]

Kanadah TBH

Argo fuck yourselves. lol canada

[Clipper Nation]

0-6 :lol

[lefty]

2004 all over again


" the Matrix Reloaded " they flashed on the jumbotron for their home opener in 03-04 :lol

[Venti Quattro]

Not concerned for the slightest bit. The team will hit its stride when it's time to.

[Bynumite]

^Yep agreed, just remember Miami's start last season. This shit takes time. Build chemistry.

[scanry]

A team with this much talent doesn't deserve Mike Brown. He's a borderline Asst Coach let alone Head Coach.

BTW what was he even thinking by playing the starters 30+ min in a preseason game. Your bench stinks and you would think he'd atleast get a look at the bench.

[scanry]

^Yep agreed, just remember Miami's start last season. This shit takes time. Build chemistry.

I know it takes time, but why play the starters 30+ minutes in a preseason game? I say make Eddie Jordan the coach by Christmas.

Why bring up the Princeton Offense when you have the triangle to play around with.

[Venti Quattro]

help yourself, dwight


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj3VmnLUdmQ

[ElNono]

A team with this much talent doesn't deserve Mike Brown. He's a borderline Asst Coach let alone Head Coach.

BTW what was he even thinking by playing the starters 30+ min in a preseason game. Your bench stinks and you would think he'd atleast get a look at the bench.

He was trying to win, tbh

[ElNono]

Not concerned for the slightest bit.

Neither are Miami or OKC, tbh...

[scanry]

Neither are Miami or OKC, tbh...

TBH those two could only get better after last season and they actually did.

[racm]

Miami has the GOAT 3 pt shooter tbh... Lakers will get killed from the 3 pt line a lot this year

[Venti Quattro]

Neither are Miami or OKC, tbh...

Hello captain obvious...

[Lincoln]

Their bench fuckin sucks, will the starters be enough to carry them to a win? I see Nash and Kobe playing huge minutes in the regular season this year.

[JohnnyMax]

Lakers 2nd unit is http://forums.lakersground.net/images/smiles/bananadead.gif

[LkrFan]

Not concerned for the slightest bit. The team will hit its stride when it's time to.

2000 NBA Preseason: 0-8
2000 NBA Champions: LA Lakers

[Banzai]

2000 NBA Preseason: 0-8
2000 NBA Champions: LA Lakers

Young Kobe and young shaq..plus a lot of vets with skill

[LkrFan]

Young Kobe and young shaq..plus a lot of vets with skill

Edit: they were actually 3-5. :lmao at blindly quoting some dude from LakersGround. :lol

[Banzai]

Edit: they were actually 3-5. :lmao at blindly quoting some dude from LakersGround. :lol

" Shit Happens" - Rick Grimes

[Clipper Nation]

2011 NBA Preseason: Lakers winless

2011 NBA Postseason: Lakers bounced in second round

[Ace]

Anyone who seriously thinks the Lakers are not going to stomp through the West is a idiot. It's a preseason game for a team that hasn't built any chemistry. Not saying they are a lock for the finals because obviously OKC won't lay down but the Lakers are too talented to not dominate.

[scanry]

2011 NBA Preseason: Lakers winless

2011 NBA Postseason: Lakers bounced in second round

CN, them Clippers can get tap that a$$ on Wednesday. Is Griffin playing or is he still recovering from that surgery?

[scanry]

Anyone who seriously thinks the Lakers are not going to stomp through the West is a idiot. It's a preseason game for a team that hasn't built any chemistry. Not saying they are a lock for the finals because obviously OKC won't lay down but the Lakers are too talented to not dominate.

You really think they can top OKC? I have my doubts and don't be surprised to see OKC stomping the league this year. OKC is the only obstacle from Miami repeating.

[Clipper Nation]

CN, them Clippers can get tap that a$$ on Wednesday. Is Griffin playing or is he still recovering from that surgery?
Tbh, he'll get some PT on Wed, imho... not too much, though, since we have this thing Lakerfan might not have heard of, it's called a bench....

[scanry]

Tbh, he'll get some PT on Wed, imho... not too much, though, since we have this thing Lakerfan might not have heard of, it's called a bench....

Don't need it during the post season tbh. However if (and i'm confident he will) Mike Brown drives the starters to the ground during the reg season again like last season, i see him gone next summer.

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah, I know rotations tighten in the playoffs, but since we have two recent Sixth Men of the Year on our bench, we don't have to do too much tightening there, tbh.... also it'll help in the regular season, as Vinny won't have to run the starters into the ground, Mike Cl:lolwn-style...

[Raven]

Anyone who seriously thinks the Lakers are not going to stomp through the West is a idiot. It's a preseason game for a team that hasn't built any chemistry. Not saying they are a lock for the finals because obviously OKC won't lay down but the Lakers are too talented to not dominate.

...

[Ace]

You really think they can top OKC? I have my doubts and don't be surprised to see OKC stomping the league this year. OKC is the only obstacle from Miami repeating.
OKC will be tough but Dwight is a big improvement for the Lakers defensively and should help against penetration. OKC doesn't have a post threat and it could be tough to beat the Lakers in a 7 game series as a jump shooting team.

[Ace]

...
Lakers are stomping through the West with OKC the only team putting up a fight. Reading comprehension...

[Raven]

Lakers are stomping through the West with OKC the only team putting up a fight. Reading comprehension...

it's not stomping then... plus, how do you know they wont face each other before the WCF?

[Ace]

it's not stomping then... plus, how do you know they wont face each other before the WCF?
Don't really see OKC or the Lakers ending as a 4th seed.

[Raven]

Don't really see OKC or the Lakers ending as a 4th seed.

san antonio had the n1 seed in the west for two years in row.. tbh to call idiots those who dare say against something you're not even sure yourself seems debatable to say the least.

[The Gemini Method]

Deep concern with this coaching staff--I am certain if things aren't going as planned for the first portion of the season, Mike Brown will need to go. Actually, I think he should've never been the coach but I'm just a fan and don't really have all that much influence to whom ever coaches the team. It just doesn't look like he is the coach for this team. We'll have to wait and see I guess...

[ElNono]

OKC will be tough but Dwight is a big improvement for the Lakers defensively and should help against penetration. OKC doesn't have a post threat and it could be tough to beat the Lakers in a 7 game series as a jump shooting team.

tbh, this isn't the leastern conference... watch out with the Clippers and Denver, who added quality pieces and are fairly deep now. Utah is also a dark horse, with bigs that can match up with anybody. While it's still OKC's conference to lose, I don't think it's going to be the cakewalk to the 1st and 2nd seed some people imagine.

[DMC]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/644701_472064069480445_1541000863_n.jpg

On CP3's facebook page lol


Maybe old, never saw it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lolyou gotta love how ElNono is jocking the Heat and Thunder now b/c of his visceral fear and hatred of the Lakers.

[Ace]

san antonio had the n1 seed in the west for two years in row.. tbh to call idiots those who dare say against something you're not even sure yourself seems debatable to say the least.
:lol Spurs won't have that number one seed this year and I was referring to the idiots who think the Lakers are not serious contenders. IMHO it's a two race between Heat/Lakers OKC with a slight shot at the finals.

[Clipper Nation]

Wow, people are really underrating the West this year just because the Lakers made a couple lateral moves, tbh....

[whitemamba]

Wow, people are really underrating the West this year just because the Lakers made a couple lateral moves, tbh....

makes sense tbh, we staaaaaaaacked

[ElNono]

:lolyou gotta love how ElNono is jocking the Heat and Thunder now b/c of his visceral fear and hatred of the Lakers.

I'm here to talk basketball, tbh... after all, it's not like I wasn't right bout dem Lakers & Grizzlies last season...

[ElNono]

Then again, it's too early to tell... as I always say, by the ASG break we'll know who has a legitimate shot. I just don't buy the west is a two horse race. I can excuse Ace since he's used to the leastern conference where there's basically no competition, but the west is definitely going to be interesting, IMO.

[DeadlyDynasty]

and :lol thinking the Clippers or Nuggets are going to make any serious noise this year. The Clippers have a nice bench (which means precisely DICK in the playoffs) and the Nuggets are a team full of betas

[Ace]

Then again, it's too early to tell... as I always say, by the ASG break we'll know who has a legitimate shot. I just don't buy the west is a two horse race. I can excuse Ace since he's used to the leastern conference where there's basically no competition, but the west is definitely going to be interesting, IMO.
Nice regular season teams but not going to do much in the playoffs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Nice regular season teams but not going to do much in the playoffs.
Exactly. Barring major injury, the West is undoubtedly a 2-horse race between LAL and OKC.

[Raven]

:lol Spurs won't have that number one seed this year and I was referring to the idiots who think the Lakers are not serious contenders. IMHO it's a two race between Heat/Lakers OKC with a slight shot at the finals.

i heard that one before tbh..

[ElNono]

Well, I disagree for a number of reasons. First of all, the notion that the bench doesn't matter because of the playoffs is simply misguided, IMO. Both OKC and Miami had good benches providing good depth last season, and they relied on them on a nightly basis. But I think it's even more important for old and slow teams like the Lakers. One could argue the Lakeshow simply ran out of gas last season, and that was a short season. Plus if the West turns out to be competitive and the Lakeshow is really vying for the 1st or 2nd seed, then there will be pressure to play the starters more due to the abysmal bench.

As far as the Clippers, I personally like what they've done. They got rid of low IQ chuckers like Mo Williams and Nick Young, and replaced them with a floor general in Grant Hill and good role players around him (Lakerfan should remember Matt Barnes as being one of the few good bench players last season). To that you have to add the natural progression of a legitimate star like Blake Griffin. Their main concern will be to stay healthy (especially CP3 and Griffin), and the subpar coaching staff.

I also think people are sleeping on Denver. This is a team that took the Lakeshow to 7 games last season and added a very, very solid piece in Iguodala. They've been always fairly well coached and while I'm not 100% sold Gallinari and McGee are going to shine every night, they should still be able to play with anybody.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Wrong.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Clippers, Nuggets, and Spurs are all fluffers--especially the Clippers--that franchise was built on fluffing up their competition. 2 of those 3 will fluff and buff the Lakers and OKC spiritedly in the WCSF, before getting knocked out.

[Raven]

The Clippers, Nuggets, and Spurs are all fluffers--especially the Clippers--that franchise was built on fluffing up their competition. 2 of those 3 will fluff and buff the Lakers and OKC spiritedly in the WCSF, before getting knocked out.

not sure if a franchise that has been swept in the secound round while losing for 40 points should be the one to talk.. considering you had to use the refs to get past the first round..

[Malik Hairston]

:lol ElNono and the majority of the posters here rode the West teams during the entire playoffs, claiming Miami would struggle to defeat any West team in the Finals after beating "weak" East teams..look it up, they all reiterated these predictions throughout the post-season..

The West has an abundance of teams that are unable to play a style of play that fits in the playoffs..as I said last year, teams like Indiana are better playoff teams than teams such as the Nuggets, and they proved it by being Miami's 2nd most difficult opponents..

Denver doesn't play defense and doesn't even have an all-NBA player on their team..the Clippers' and Spurs' have PGs as their best players.. none of these teams are able to display defense at a consistent level..

:lol mentioning Utah..

Miami is the favorite, Lakers and Thunder are legit contenders..Celtics, Spurs and Clippers are darkhorse long shots..

[Ace]

i heard that one before tbh..
:lol regular season

You must be new :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

not sure if a franchise that has been swept in the secound round while losing for 40 points should be the one to talk.

Neat 2011 smack...since you're going there, not sure if a team who lost to an 8th seed (and a franchise that had 0 playoff wins in its history) should talk.

To answer your hallmark grey-esque post, I can "talk" about any of those 3 shit teams, and be well within my right.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol regular season

You must be new :lol

rofl...you can already tell this guy fits the cheguevara/Technique/Rummpd profile of Spurfan. Since he's whined about the officials, his posts also echo the vaginal ramblings of CryHavoc

[Raven]

Neat 2011 smack...since you're going there, not sure if a team who lost to an 8th seed (and a franchise that had 0 playoff wins in its history) should talk.

To answer your hallmark grey-esque post, I can "talk" about any of those 3 shit teams, and be well within my right.

not sure why anyone thought we would have passed with two of three bigs injured tbh.. i'm just sayin' wait for some hoop that actually matter then talk..

[Ace]

Well, I disagree for a number of reasons. First of all, the notion that the bench doesn't matter because of the playoffs is simply misguided, IMO. Both OKC and Miami had good benches providing good depth last season, and they relied on them on a nightly basis. But I think it's even more important for old and slow teams like the Lakers. One could argue the Lakeshow simply ran out of gas last season, and that was a short season. Plus if the West turns out to be competitive and the Lakeshow is really vying for the 1st or 2nd seed, then there will be pressure to play the starters more due to the abysmal bench.

As far as the Clippers, I personally like what they've done. They got rid of low IQ chuckers like Mo Williams and Nick Young, and replaced them with a floor general in Grant Hill and good role players around him (Lakerfan should remember Matt Barnes as being one of the few good bench players last season). To that you have to add the natural progression of a legitimate star like Blake Griffin. Their main concern will be to stay healthy (especially CP3 and Griffin), and the subpar coaching staff.

I also think people are sleeping on Denver. This is a team that took the Lakeshow to 7 games last season and added a very, very solid piece in Iguodala. They've been always fairly well coached and while I'm not 100% sold Gallinari and McGee are going to shine every night, they should still be able to play with anybody.
Lakers will coast all season long and as will Miami, both will turn it up in the playoffs. Clippers and the Nuggets are deep but they are regular season teams.

[Raven]

:lol regular season

You must be new :lol

i may be new, but even newbies know that regular season decides the seeds..

[DeadlyDynasty]

i may be new, but even newbies know that regular season decides the seeds..
and that's worked out great for you guys lately

[DPG21920]

Well - if you are one of those "win it all or else that means you are terrible and should not be spoken about" types, sure - it has not worked out. But being one of 4 teams left with a legit shot to make it to the finals is a pretty damn good thing and the regular season helped that.

[Ace]

i may be new, but even newbies know that regular season decides the seeds..
Seeds haven't meant much and the last two years should taught you that. 1st Seed :lol

[Raven]

and that's worked out great for you guys lately

you seem to be missing the point... the point is that none is an idiot for debating about something as untrivial as as is a WCF since the past says something different and while one team has not shown any kind of dominance the other one has been absolutely horrible.

[LkrFan]

Well, I disagree for a number of reasons. First of all, the notion that the bench doesn't matter because of the playoffs is simply misguided, IMO. Both OKC and Miami had good benches providing good depth last season, and they relied on them on a nightly basis. But I think it's even more important for old and slow teams like the Lakers. One could argue the Lakeshow simply ran out of gas last season, and that was a short season. Plus if the West turns out to be competitive and the Lakeshow is really vying for the 1st or 2nd seed, then there will be pressure to play the starters more due to the abysmal bench.

IMO, Miami's bench didn't really click until the playoffs. Bosh was ailing and missed a few games. Their bench played well and it carried over in the Finals against OKC. Agreed, to an extent about the Lakers running out of gas - specifically our bigs. Bynum for being a lazy ass MFer and Pau for all of the games he played from the previous season + playoffs + Olympics. When our bigs went limp, there went our chances of getting past OKC - especially with at the time, our only true advantage being a then 32 year old Kobe trying to carry the team. Sessions shit the bed, Artest's stupid elbow cost us as well because he was balling right before that incident.


As far as the Clippers, I personally like what they've done. They got rid of low IQ chuckers like Mo Williams and Nick Young, and replaced them with a floor general in Grant Hill and good role players around him (Lakerfan should remember Matt Barnes as being one of the few good bench players last season). To that you have to add the natural progression of a legitimate star like Blake Griffin. Their main concern will be to stay healthy (especially CP3 and Griffin), and the subpar coaching staff.

I'm not sold on the Clippers. Sure they added G Hill but being that Griffin will bitch and moan about his touches and due to his immaturity, will he listen to a savy vet like Hill when the chips are down? I doubt it. Then I'll envoke DOK's theory: teams with PGs as their best player typically don't win championships (Detroit Pistons being one of the rare exceptions). They added Barnes (who did dick for us last year in the playoffs) and fatass-unfocused Lamar Odom. Mo Williams will be a huge loss for them. He was instant offense for them. And then you have their inept coaching staff. I actually trust Mike Brown more than Del Negroid (believe it or not).


I also think people are sleeping on Denver. This is a team that took the Lakeshow to 7 games last season and added a very, very solid piece in Iguodala. They've been always fairly well coached and while I'm not 100% sold Gallinari and McGee are going to shine every night, they should still be able to play with anybody.

Denver is this year's X-factor. I love what they did in getting a true leader in Iggy to go with Gallo, and McGee. I'm not sweating them too much because I believe now that we have someone that will actually hustle on defense (D12), we won't see many breakout games for McGee and Faried like last year versus Bynum and Gasol. Plus I don't trust George Karl.

I think that the Lakers will be 2nd or 3rd seed. I don't think it is necessary to get the 1st seed. I think we will start off slow as the guys get used to playing with one another while learning a new offense (again for the 2nd straight season). We'll have our identity by the ASG. Meanwhile, I expect teams like SA, OKC, Clippers and even Denver to be rolling while we figure it out. But make no mistake, once we begin to figure out how to use Howard and Nash with Kobe/Pau the Lakers will be a force to be reckoned with. I don't want them to peak early only to fizz out again. It's a marathon - not a sprint.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Well - if you are one of those "win it all or else that means you are terrible and should not be spoken about" types, sure - it has not worked out. But being one of 4 teams left with a legit shot to make it to the finals is a pretty damn good thing and the regular season helped that.

But the more talented team moved on last year, so HCA meant absolutely dick for you. We won't even mention 2011.

[LkrFan]

Seeds haven't meant much and the last two years should taught you that. 1st Seed :lol

The G:lol:lolds

[DPG21920]

It did mean something. Without HC - the match up's changed and they don't even make it to the WCF. If you are seriously trying to argue that winning the regular season, getting the number one seed, HC and the match up's that ensued did not mean anything - cool, I just disagree.

[DeadlyDynasty]

you seem to be missing the point... the point is that none is an idiot for debating about something as untrivial as as is a WCF since the past says something different and while one team has not shown any kind of dominance the other one has been absolutely horrible.
No, you are missing the point. It's pretty fucking obvious to anyone with 2 eyes and a brain who'll be in the WCF this year, barring serious injury.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It did mean something. Without HC - the match up's changed and they don't even make it to the WCF. If you are seriously trying to argue that winning the regular season, getting the number one seed, HC and the match up's that ensued did not mean anything - cool, I just disagree.

That's exactly what I'm saying. That's what makes the playoffs great--you work all year for HCA and all it takes is one home loss to shit on your season and force you to win on the road against a superiorly talented team.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The guy with the bigger dick gets the girl

[Raven]

No, you are missing the point. It's pretty fucking obvious to anyone with 2 eyes and a brain who'll be in the WCF this year, barring serious injury.

then it's not pretty fucking obvious..

[DeadlyDynasty]

then it's not pretty fucking obvious..
I recommend you stay upstairs, where people won't belittle you for your retarded opinions.

[Raven]

I recommend you stay upstairs, where people won't belittle you for your retarded opinions.

i'll keep that in mind, thank you.

[Ace]

That's exactly what I'm saying. That's what makes the playoffs great--you work all year for HCA and all it takes is one home loss to shit on your season and force you to win on the road against a superiorly talented team.Exactly, HCA means shit when all it takes is one lost to lose it. Work all year to lose it in one game. Championship teams win on the road and 1st seed hasn't meant shit in two years.

[Clipper Nation]

Griffin will bitch and moan about his touches and due to his immaturity
Source? :lol


will he listen to a savy vet like Hill when the chips are down? I doubt it.


"Blake’s a great kid, and I said, ‘Look man, take your time. If I learned anything, take your time,’ ” Hill said. “He wants to get back so fast.

“I said, ‘I need you in June, I don’t need you in October.’ So he’s a great kid and got a great career ahead of him, and hopefully I can share a little about the highs and the lows and the things that I’ve gone though.’’

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/09/09/grant-hill-hasn-given-dream-championship/uYoMkuNNcCBZVYcYdEJJxH/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw



Mo Williams will be a huge loss for them.
:lmao

Now I KNOW you're trolling, B...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Exactly, HCA means shit when all it takes is one lost to lose it. Work all year to lose it in one game. Championship teams win on the road and 1st seed hasn't meant shit in two years.
I think it's important for people to recognize that last sentence b/c it's a microcosm of what we've been saying this entire thread.

Let's look at the last 2 years:

The Bulls and Spurs won their respective conferences (regular season) 2 years in a row. They didn't have the best talent, but they had the best coaching and arguably the 2 best?benches in the league--which helped them mask a lot of their talent issues. Both teams had PG's as their best players too:lol

In the playoffs, the lack of talent gets exposed by superior teams. At the end of the day Danny Green is still Danny Green.

[LkrFan]

Source? :lol

My eyes. Griffin is a prima donna beotch. He flops, whines for calls, and if he can't dunk on you he ain't shit. I want to see him try to posterize D12 or better yet stop D12 from doing whatever he wants - especially since DJordan can't stop him.



:lmao

Now I KNOW you're trolling, B...
Not really. Mo is no all star but he did provide a spark to you guys last year. 13 ppg, 90% from the charity stripe, 3 apg, in about 28 mpg. This is good production on a team with a ball dominant guard like CP3.

Oh, and what is Hill suppose to say about Griffin? :lol - the truth? Griffin is a prima donnaPERIOD.

[Venti Quattro]

It's so funny how Clipper Nation is named as such and yet he lives and breathes Lakers.

[LkrFan]

^ He's a closet Laker fan tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

Can't blame him anyway. A lot of the people in the NBA forum live and breathe waiting for the Lakers' next move. It's just the pull of the NBA's premier franchise. :lol :lol :lol

[Clipper Nation]

My eyes.
:lol When have "your eyes" seen him specifically whining for touches?


I want to see him try to posterize D12
Can't be too hard, since CP3 did it...

http://www.nba.com/media/cpaul_400_061220.jpg

:lol Dwight's face


Not really. Mo is no all star but he did provide a spark to you guys last year. 13 ppg, 90% from the charity stripe, 3 apg, in about 28 mpg. This is good production on a team with a ball dominant guard like CP3.
Not a very good defender, though, and his cold streaks were infuriating... we had too many shooters and not enough versatility last year, tbh...


Oh, and what is Hill suppose to say about Griffin? :lol - the truth?
Hey, Smush Parker told the truth about your boy Food Stamps... :lol

[ElNono]

Wrong.

Disagree Time will tell who was wrong, tbh.


:lol ElNono and the majority of the posters here rode the West teams during the entire playoffs, claiming Miami would struggle to defeat any West team in the Finals after beating "weak" East teams..look it up, they all reiterated these predictions throughout the post-season..

Well, it certainly wasn't a reach considering Miami got their asses handed to them by Dallas the previous season...

But that's the point. Season to season, teams change.

btw, sup Harlem :lol



Denver doesn't play defense and doesn't even have an all-NBA player on their team..the Clippers' and Spurs' have PGs as their best players.. none of these teams are able to display defense at a consistent level..

Well, not really true. Iguodala was actually all-nba 2nd team defense in 2011 (and All-Star last season). And that was playing with a shitty team in Philly. Clippers added more size (literally) with Odom, but also Barnes is a scrappy guy. Now, it all might not pan out, but I think they're interesting pieces to dismiss outright before the season even started.



:lol mentioning Utah..

:lol I said darkhorse, tbh


Miami is the favorite, Lakers and Thunder are legit contenders..Celtics, Spurs and Clippers are darkhorse long shots..

I agree with Miami and OKC being favored. Not ready to hand out 'contender' tags to anybody else at this time, tbh.

[LkrFan]

Clipper Nation running out of material to troll his true favorite team: LA Lakers. :lol

[ElNono]

I think it's important for people to recognize that last sentence b/c it's a microcosm of what we've been saying this entire thread.

Let's look at the last 2 years:

The Bulls and Spurs won their respective conferences (regular season) 2 years in a row. They didn't have the best talent, but they had the best coaching and arguably the 2 best?benches in the league--which helped them mask a lot of their talent issues. Both teams had PG's as their best players too:lol

In the playoffs, the lack of talent gets exposed by superior teams. At the end of the day Danny Green is still Danny Green.

What happened to the Lakers the last 2 years?

[ElNono]

IMO, Miami's bench didn't really click until the playoffs. Bosh was ailing and missed a few games. Their bench played well and it carried over in the Finals against OKC. Agreed, to an extent about the Lakers running out of gas - specifically our bigs. Bynum for being a lazy ass MFer and Pau for all of the games he played from the previous season + playoffs + Olympics. When our bigs went limp, there went our chances of getting past OKC - especially with at the time, our only true advantage being a then 32 year old Kobe trying to carry the team. Sessions shit the bed, Artest's stupid elbow cost us as well because he was balling right before that incident.

But they needed it. Without Mike Miller drilling those 3s, we might be talking how to beat Durant right now. Heck, OKC's downfall was actually the poor play from the bench, which they used thoroughly during the playoffs and finals (lol towelhead)


I'm not sold on the Clippers. Sure they added G Hill but being that Griffin will bitch and moan about his touches and due to his immaturity, will he listen to a savy vet like Hill when the chips are down? I doubt it. Then I'll envoke DOK's theory: teams with PGs as their best player typically don't win championships (Detroit Pistons being one of the rare exceptions). They added Barnes (who did dick for us last year in the playoffs) and fatass-unfocused Lamar Odom. Mo Williams will be a huge loss for them. He was instant offense for them. And then you have their inept coaching staff. I actually trust Mike Brown more than Del Negroid (believe it or not).

Disagree about Mo Will. He was a mindless chucker and they basically replaced that with Jamal Crawford. But Nick Young was that too for them last season, and you could tell their bench was a bunch of chuckers and loons (KMart, Reggie Evans, etc). I think this is probably the best bench in the NBA right now.

tbh, Lakerfan should be the last to talk about players that bitch and moan. Do you want me to put that "Ship his ass out" clip on full blast? :lol


I think that the Lakers will be 2nd or 3rd seed. I don't think it is necessary to get the 1st seed. I think we will start off slow as the guys get used to playing with one another while learning a new offense (again for the 2nd straight season). We'll have our identity by the ASG. Meanwhile, I expect teams like SA, OKC, Clippers and even Denver to be rolling while we figure it out. But make no mistake, once we begin to figure out how to use Howard and Nash with Kobe/Pau the Lakers will be a force to be reckoned with. I don't want them to peak early only to fizz out again. It's a marathon - not a sprint.

We'll see. I have the Lakeshow being in the hunt. The ceiling is definitely high, but there's also a good amount of question marks, IMO.

[DeadlyDynasty]

What happened to the Lakers the last 2 years?
In 2011 they lost to an elite player in Godmode (who went on to beat Durant and LeBron). In 2012 they just lost to a better team.

[Clipper Nation]

Clipper Nation running out of material to troll his true favorite team: LA Lakers. :lol

Son, you wish I would take my swag to the bum-ass Lakers, but it ain't gonna happen, tbh.... :downspin:

[Banzai]

Son, you wish I would take my swag to the bum-ass Lakers, but it ain't gonna happen, tbh.... :downspin:

didn't know you had any tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

sup Banzai

[Clipper Nation]

didn't know you had any tbh.
http://s3.sillylikes.com/uploads/13282615960863.gif

[Banzai]

sup Banzai

hello venti how are you?

[scanry]

hello venti how are you?

Banzai, i've never seen you lose your cool.

CN's food stamps stick is the new Culburn TOSB.

[Banzai]

Banzai, i've never seen you lose your cool.

CN's food stamps stick is the new Culburn TOSB.

Have I been lately?????

[scanry]

Have I been lately?????

I guess so. The funny thing is he only criticizes Kobe with food stamps stichk.

[Bynumite]

Son, you wish I would take my swag to the bum-ass Lakers, but it ain't gonna happen, tbh....

Now let's see flopcitynation's definition of swag:


It is swag.... style-less while appearing gay...

:lmao

[Banzai]

I guess so. The funny thing is he only criticizes Kobe with food stamps stichk. na..I'm still the same

[Clipper Nation]

Now let's see flopcitynation's definition of swag:



:lmao

That's my definition of Kobe's "swag," tbh... :downspin:

[Trainwreck2100]

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=150663&postdays=0&postorder=asc******=0

:lol

ok guys who is rePlay

[Lincoln]

Machine...looks like his kid in the avatar

[Trainwreck2100]

TheMACHINE

[Clipper Nation]

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=150663&postdays=0&postorder=asc******=0


Spurstalk is a cesspool. Think of 4chan minus the clever/funny hacker types.

Damn... Lakerfan seems upset :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

what's hilarious about that is like half the cesspool part of it is Laker fans





no offense guys













but you know it's true

[TheMACHINE]

its me! lol...see my post count. I cant stand LG. haha

[ElNono]

sup negroes... Dwight playing today, no snitch though

[Venti Quattro]

Really like what Sacre is bringing to the team. Goudelock is gonna get cut for sure

[racm]

Really like what Sacre is bringing to the team. Goudelock is gonna get cut for sure

You can't teach height, tbh.

[Venti Quattro]

Glad they got out from that terrible first quarter.

[racm]

Glad they got out from that terrible first quarter.

I don't think they're trying to win unless Mike Br:lolwn inserts the starting lineup with two minutes left in the fourth.

[Banzai]

Don't care what anyone says..mike brown and Eddie Princeton....awful..I wonder what record this team gets this season..45 wins max?

[Venti Quattro]

Don't care what anyone says..mike brown and Eddie Princeton....awful..I wonder what record this team gets this season..45 wins max?

42-40

[wanggi]

Mike Brown will know soon...Know that Howard ain't better than Bynum.

[Banzai]

42-40
Seems plausible tbh.

[racm]

The last time Eddie Jordan was a head coach the Sixers went 27-55, tbh

[Banzai]

The last time Eddie Jordan was a head coach the Sixers went 27-55, tbh

2 loser coaches= total failure

[ElNono]

What happened? I switched to MOH Warfighter, and when I switch back is a 20 point game... det bench sucking again?

[racm]

Chris Duh:loln, tbh

[Jeremy]

Has an 0-8 team ever won the championship?

[racm]

Has an 0-8 team ever won the championship?

:cry but it's preseason :cry
:cry but the Lakers won no games in the 1999 preseason :cry
:cry but we had Phil Jackson and Shaq :cry

[ElNono]

Kings are legit, tbh




:lol

[wanggi]

No doubt about that the Fakers will be a different team after 30, Oct. But Kobe, Pau and Nash are one year older than last season, aren't they?

[Clipper Nation]

Has an 0-8 team ever won the championship?

According to ESPN's recap of the game: "No team has gone winless in the preseason and made it to the NBA Finals."

:lol 0-8

[racm]

According to ESPN's recap of the game: "No team has gone winless in the preseason and made it to the NBA Finals."

:lol 0-8

Gonna be upset by the Grizzlies in the first round tbh

[LkrFan]

Gonna be upset by the Grizzlies in the first round tbh
That's rich