Hurricane Sandy aka God's Wrath per par?

[Blake]

Has anyone heard what the latest, worst evil might be?

is it about gays again? Has God finally had it with Halloween?

Is Pat waiting until the storm is over to tell us?

[boutons_deux]

Anti-Gay Preacher Blames Hurricane Sandy On Homosexuality And Marriage Equality (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/29/1104901/anti-gay-preacher-blames-hurricane-sandy-on-homosexuality-and-marriage-equality/)http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Chaplain-John-McTernan.jpg

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/29/1104901/anti-gay-preacher-blames-hurricane-sandy-on-homosexuality-and-marriage-equality/

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol whenever a natural disaster happens, you can count on a right wing nut to blame it on teh gays

[ElNono]

tbh, I hear God had it with Christie's gluttony... at least I still have electricity here. :lol

[RandomGuy]

:lol whenever a natural disaster happens, you can count on a right wing nut to blame it on teh gays

Knee, meet jerk.

[boutons_deux]

anti-LGBT pastoring is nothing but a business, suckering ignorant Christians out of their contributions.

[Spurminator]

If it's God's wrath, I think we all know who is to blame...

http://www.mtv.com/onair/jersey_shore/photos/cast/all_0132.jpg

[ploto]

God Not in Whirlwinds of Sandy, Presidential Race

Stephen Prothero, Boston University religion scholar

I am riding out Sandy on Cape Cod and wondering whether this, too, is God’s will.

As this storm has carved its path through the Caribbean and up the Eastern Seaboard of the United States, it has taken 67 lives and (so far) spared the rest of us. Was it the will of the Almighty that so many should perish?

Is God angry with Cuba, where 11 died last week? More angry with Haiti, where 51 perished? Relatively unperturbed with Jamaica, where the death toll was only two? If a tree falls on my house today, will that be an Act of God, too?

There has been a lot of talk lately about what is and what isn’t willed by Providence, thanks to Richard Mourdock, the Indiana Republican and U.S. Senate candidate who said last week, “I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen.”

Whether “it” in this sentence refers to rape or to conception, it assumes that God is both busy and capricious. Why does God offer the gift of life to some rape victims and not to others? Why does God allow some elections to be close and not others?

One answer, of course, is that God does nothing of the sort. Perhaps there is no God. Or perhaps God is more like the watchmaker divinity of Deism fame who winds up the universe, sets it in motion and then leaves it to its own devices.

In the thought worlds of Indian religions, things operate not by the will of God but in keeping with the laws of karma. So to put it in crudest terms, those who are injured in Sandy somehow have it coming to them, as do victims of rape who find themselves pregnant.

The western religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have argued that God has a hand not only in setting our story in motion but also in seeing it through to the end. So Jews, Christians, and Muslims have had to reckon with the classical problem of “theodicy”: In a world in which God is all powerful and all good, why do bad things happen to good people?

As I wrestle with these questions, I cannot help thinking about how differently my New England forebears interpreted these natural disasters. While we speak of the eye of the hurricane, New England's colonists were ever mindful of the eye of a God who was forever watching over them, and sending storms their way as punishment for their collective sins.

When the Great Colonial Hurricane raced up the east coast and lashed New England in August 1635, its 130 mph winds and 21-foot storm surge were almost universally viewed in supernatural rather than natural terms — as a judgment of God on the unfaithful.

We still have Puritans among us today, of course.

Televangelist Pat Robertson is notorious for turning natural disasters such as the Haiti earthquake and Hurricane Katrina into supernatural communications — God’s curse on Haiti or New Orleans for bad religion or widespread abortions. And with this “Stormpocalpyse” arriving on the eve of the election, I suspect some will suggest that the rain and the wind are God’s judgment on the leadership of President Obama.

Still, American society as a whole no longer interprets natural disasters as signs of a coming apocalypse or evidence of past misdeeds. When it comes to earthquakes and hurricanes, we tune in to the Weather Channel, not the Christian Broadcasting Network. And we interpret these events not through the rumblings of biblical prophets but through the scientific truths of air pressure and tectonic plates.

As a result of this sort of secular turn, we are much better at predicting the course of hurricanes. The Great Colonial Hurricane of 1635 arrived as a surprise and took many lives with it, including, according to the report of the Massachusetts governor, John Winthrop, those of eight Native Americans taken by the storm surge while “flying from their wigwams.” Sandy is a surprise to no one, thanks to science.

Still, we Americans cannot give up on talk of God’s will. At least according to Newt Gingrich, Mourdock’s foray into rape and theology reflects the position of “virtually every Catholic” in the United States. And if we are to believe the full-page ads taken out by Billy Graham, God wills the victory of Mitt Romney over Barack Obama.

As for me, I am less sure about what God wills for our storms (political or otherwise). In my view, any God worth worshiping isn’t going to be so predictable, or so capricious.

I don’t think Graham, Mourdock, or Gingrich is speaking on behalf of God. They are speaking on behalf of themselves, on the basis of their own fears and experiences. And they are reading the Bible through their politics, not the other way around.

When it comes to storms like Sandy, I just don't believe in a God who drowns black babies in Haiti yet refuses to drown out the voices of cranky white men who claim so irreverently to speak in His name.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/29/my-take-god-not-in-whirlwinds-of-sandy-presidential-race/?hpt=hp_c2

[mouse]

Has anyone heard what the latest,Has God finally had it?


I thought you was an Atheist?

[Blake]

So he doesn't believe in the god of the bible.

Me neither

[Blake]

I thought you was an Atheist?

I think you're an idiot

[ploto]

So he doesn't believe in the god of the Old Testament.

FIFY

[Blake]

FIFY

no thanks, i had it right.

[mouse]

I think you're an idiot


So that's a yes?

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, you're an idiot.

[mouse]

Yes, you're an idiot.

Proof?

Your still sore after getting your ass smoked in the Evolution debate?

[DMC]

Smartest most ruthless predators on the planet are the clergy and the paid laity.

[AussieFanKurt]

any excuses to bring gays back into political picture in a negative way

[Heath Ledger]

Im hoping that some of the deceased are announced as cast members of Jersey shore.

[Drachen]

Im hoping that some of the deceased are announced as cast members of Jersey shore.

Or even better, bigoted evangelical preachers!

[Trainwreck2100]

Im hoping that some of the deceased are announced as cast members of Jersey shore.

Why so our dumbfuck media can treat them as martyrs like every shitty "celebrity" that dies

[ChumpDumper]

Proof?

Your still sore after getting your ass smoked in the Evolution debate?Your thinking that is proof enough right there. :toast

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5 Crazy Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories About Hurricane Sandy

It’s the gays! (http://www.edgeboston.com/news/religion/news/138474/conservative_christians_blame_the_gays_for_hurrica ne_sandy)

It’s bad policy toward Israel! (http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/candacechellew-hodge/6554/hurricane_sandy_spawns_right-wing_theodicy/)

It’s Obama/the government! (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/10/29/conspiracy-theorists-say-obama-engineered-hurricane-sandy)

It’s an excuse for the government to take your guns! (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/can-your-gun-be-confiscated-during-a-national-emergency/)

The Department of Labor is using Sandy to delay the jobs report! (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/29/right-wing-media-use-hurricane-to-double-down-o/190999)


http://www.alternet.org/5-crazy-right-wing-conspiracy-theories-about-hurricane-sandy?akid=9615.187590.7ylh2Z&rd=1&t=3

Repugs and "Christian" hucksters spew this garbage because they know their stupid, ignorant, fantiasy-indoctrinated base believes it all.

[DMC]

5 Crazy Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories About Hurricane Sandy

It’s the gays! (http://www.edgeboston.com/news/religion/news/138474/conservative_christians_blame_the_gays_for_hurrica ne_sandy)

It’s bad policy toward Israel! (http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/candacechellew-hodge/6554/hurricane_sandy_spawns_right-wing_theodicy/)

It’s Obama/the government! (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/10/29/conspiracy-theorists-say-obama-engineered-hurricane-sandy)

It’s an excuse for the government to take your guns! (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/can-your-gun-be-confiscated-during-a-national-emergency/)

The Department of Labor is using Sandy to delay the jobs report! (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/29/right-wing-media-use-hurricane-to-double-down-o/190999)


http://www.alternet.org/5-crazy-right-wing-conspiracy-theories-about-hurricane-sandy?akid=9615.187590.7ylh2Z&rd=1&t=3

Repugs and "Christian" hucksters spew this garbage because they know their stupid, ignorant, fantiasy-indoctrinated base believes it all.

I imagine you being out of breath and spitting all over the place as you try to squeeze out those last few syllables since your hypertension and cholesterol are like competing to reach 300.

[boutons_deux]

I imagine you being out of breath and spitting all over the place as you try to squeeze out those last few syllables since your hypertension and cholesterol are like competing to reach 300.

Your imagination is detached from reality.

[Wild Cobra]

I imagine you being out of breath and spitting all over the place as you try to squeeze out those last few syllables since your hypertension and cholesterol are like competing to reach 300.Your imagination is detached from reality.
I seldom agree with you, but I do in this case.

[mouse]

Your thinking that is proof enough right there. :toast


Your buddy Wild Cobra got his ass waxed.