Mcdyess return?

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--antonio-mcdyess-considering-return-to-nba.html

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He'd instantly be our best big man off the bench

[NRHector]

if he does return, he'll go with Heat or Lakers

[szkorhetz]

He will be a Clipper.

[ace3g]

If we can't get K-Mart, why not

Duncan, Diaw, Dice, Splitter .................................................. ............. Blair, Bonner

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

New York

[SA210]

I'll take him

[Mugen]

in a fucking heartbeat.

[sananspursfan21]

in a fucking heartbeat.

[KL2]

Don't see a reason why the Spurs shouldn't, it looks like Bonner and Blair are not going to get any more pt. if he could return to the way he played before he'd be huge for SA.

[ChuckD]

I liked Dice, but his tank was pretty damned empty when he rode off into the sunset.

[timtonymanu]

New York

Won't surprise me. New York has become the retirement home for some players.

[NRHector]

I liked Dice, but his tank was pretty damned empty when he rode off into the sunset.

but he has more balls and heart than Bonner so I'll take him anythime

[Spurs4#5]

I think if he made a comeback he would be automatically on the spurs cuz he retired during the third year of his contract...I think

[timtonymanu]

I wouldn't bring him back though. There's a chance he has nothing left in the tank. The Spurs should be pursuing someone that can help now instead of just giving McDyess a charity spot.

[Libri]

He can come in to do the dirty work, defense and rebound. Hitting a few midrange jump-shots would be a plus.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I liked Dice, but his tank was pretty damned empty when he rode off into the sunset.

no sir

[Spursfanfromafar]

Coming back to the Spurs will be a no brainer. McDyess was good if not spectacular during his last seasons with the Spurs. Always playing effective defense and offering himself as a good role player. And I don't remember Pop showing emotion in a game as much as he did when McDyess got a buzzer beater to go in against the then bloody Lakers.

The thing is whether McDyess will believe that he can win a ring with these Spurs as opposed to the Heat or the Lakers. He won't go to the Lakers, I think. But the Heat will be an alluring option. Lets hope Pop can outbid Riley here.

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Wow, this is unexpected, yet nonetheless great news. Even at his age, not having played in a year and a half, I'd still take him over Bonner/Blair. Obviously, there's no possible way he could be in game shape, but this isn't Wallace we're talking about here; McDyess is too much of a professional to not be in good shape.

I don't think there's any question the Spurs would be interested and presuming they are, you'd think they'd have the inside track. Yes, Stoudemire is injury prone, but he's due back in 6 weeks and then what? Would McDyess even be active (once Shumpert returns)? With the Spurs, he'd be pretty much guaranteed to be the fourth big, at least come playoff time. Honestly, the Spurs will be hard pressed to add a better fourth big. They can upgrade the top three, but as far as adding a respectable fourth, for Blair, Bonner and Neal, it'd be difficult.

[jon123spurs]

If take him over Bonner anyday. Please rc get this done.

[Libri]

Plus, he has something the FO values, corporate knowledge.

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At least he would know his role... unlike Blair who thinks it's okay to take contested jumpers with 12 seconds left on the shot clock

[Mugen]

with the way Tiago, Bonner, DeJuan have looked so far, it's a no brainer for the FO to take a look.

[Paranoid Pop]

Would be a great fourth big, I think he can still help.

[ace3g]

Knicks are also trying out Sheed, so he might stay away from them as well.

[freetiago]

duncan diaw splitter mcdyess is a very solid bigman rotation
mcdyess at times showed some athleticism and he had a solid mid range shot

he was actually pretty good in his 10-15 min role in 2011
after the spurs got beatdown by the lakers and pop inserted him into the starting lineup he went south
but 10-15 mins a night over bonner id take in a heartbeat

[timtonymanu]

Of course if our alternates are Bonner and Blair, I give McDyess a shot. I just don't see him as someone that can help the team this year. But, we should see how much he has left.

The team seemed to really like him and, I believe, didn't want him to retire.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

yep old mcdyess over bonner no doubt

[Spursfan092120]

I liked Dice, but his tank was pretty damned empty when he rode off into the sunset.
Exactly what I was thinking.

[letmk]

If he really unretires, get him. It's a no-brainer.

[gambit1990]

i agree with most of the sentiments:
-really unexpected
-not sure how much he has left
-would rather see him at 38 over blair/bonner

[Clipper Nation]

He will be a Clipper.

Hey, I'd take him if he can still board up, tbh...

[BatManu20]

We need to to find a way to get Kenyon MArtin somehow. His tenacious defense and rebounding would help tremendously.

[timtonymanu]

We need to to find a way to get Kenyon MArtin somehow. His tenacious defense and rebounding would help tremendously.

He needs a reality check and understand that no one wants to sign him to a big contract.

[timvp]

Hmmm ... I don't know. Thirty-eight is pretty damn old for a bigman with surgically repaired knees. In theory, McDyess would be nice to have around but my guess is that he's done.

The Spurs could do worse than to bring him in and kick the tires but it'd be a miracle if he were still a rotation-quality bigman.

[Russo21]

No please. I love him as a person but no. Unless we get rid of Blair/Bonner

[Russo21]

He couldnt help us out a few years back in the playoffs. What makes you think hed help now?

[TrainOfThought5]

He couldnt help us out a few years back in the playoffs. What makes you think hed help now?

this. I'm much more interested in Kenyon Martin but how long would it take Kmart to adjust to Offensive/Defense scheme, tbh.

As of right now, I just dont think McDyess would be much help over what we already have.....


*next thread* : Whats Bruce Bowen up to these days??

[SenorSpur]

Gosh, if this is true, I'm really surprised. Dice was pretty adamant about getting out of the game and getting onto the next phase of his life. During his final season, he talked about how difficult it was for his body to recover from game to the next, as he's gotten older. If the Spurs were better positioned on the frontline - meaning if they already had better optionts that Blair/Bonner - signing Dice would be a bonus. Because they do not, signing Dice is still riskly because, even though he'd be a slight improvement, he still doesn't fully address the Spurs shortcomings upfront.

[Bruno]

Dice is just a great fit for Spurs on the paper.

First part of the equation is to know whether or not Dice is interested to come back in SA. If he comes back to get a ring, there are clearly better choice for him like Miami. If he comes back because he missed the game, Spurs would be on top of his list.

Second part of the equation is what he has left in the tank. There is only one way to find it out for Spurs is sending RC to Houston to see Dice working out.

If Dice is interested by playing again for Spurs and if he is still mobile enough, I'm all for Spurs signing him. They badly need a player like him.

[NickiRasgo]

Enforcer! Like Willis or Massenburg.

[FkLA]

Come get your ring, Dice.

[lcroock]

Don't forget how Gasol and Randolph murdered Tim and Dice in 2011 in Rd 1.

[joeyjfive]

Don't forget how Gasol and Randolph murdered Tim and Dice in 2011 in Rd 1.

They did get crushed by Memphis in 2011 but the effort was there. I remember Dice playing pretty solid defense on Randolph, the guy just absolutely couldnt miss. Gasol on the other hand was just too big and physical at the time. I hope he comes back and plays for the Spurs. He gave us some touhghness and he wasn't weakminded, which this team can always appreciate. At 38 he's probably still 10x the player Bonner is. I just really despise Matt Bonner. I don't know how there hasn't been an uprising with him ending up lynched.

[spurspokesman]

Won't surprise me. New York has become the retirement home for some players.

This. Ive thrown that line at numerous knicks fans. Convalescent home at its best.

[spurspokesman]

Gosh, if this is true, I'm really surprised. Dice was pretty adamant about getting out of the game and getting onto the next phase of his life. During his final season, he talked about how difficult it was for his body to recover from game to the next, as he's gotten older. If the Spurs were better positioned on the frontline - meaning if they already had better optionts that Blair/Bonner - signing Dice would be a bonus. Because they do not, signing Dice is still riskly because, even though he'd be a slight improvement, he still doesn't fully address the Spurs shortcomings upfront.

This.

[elemento]

Probably to NY

Miami doesn't need him and they already have a full 15-man roster and many backup BIGs. NY on the other hand needs a PF badly. Amare got hurt and they don't have anyone else. They have Chandler, Camby and Kurt's corpse.

[CubanMustGo]

He didn't seem like the type to blow his cash but maybe he's having financial issues and needs the money ? Hope that is NOT the case but given how much he wanted out of the game you have to consider it.

[weebo]

Don't forget how Gasol and Randolph murdered Tim and Dice in 2011 in Rd 1.

To be fair, Randolph was playing out of his mind that entire PO series.

As a fourth true big off the bench, it would help the Spurs out tremendously. That's if he still has anything left.

[TDMVPDPOY]

dice>blair....at least dice still does the dirty work and can spread the floor to the mid jumper....

[bigfan]

If/If Dice is in decent shape and still has some endurance Id be for it myself. Father Time can be pretty rough. A decent Dice is a big improvement over an invisible Bonner.

[swaggerjackson]

I think if there is mutual interest you have to atleast work him out and see what he has got. Also he could do the PJ Brown thing and not start playing until after the all star break. Save a little wear and tear on his body but give him enough time to get comfortable with the team. He would take a lot less time to get used to offense/defense than Kmart.

[Trill Clinton]

i'd rather they sign a young, athletic player over dice at this juncture.

[Fireball]

Can Dice really be in a shape to play basketball at NBA level? I do not think so ...

[silverblk mystix]

:pop: "At this point- I am looking for someone a little more athletic to be matty's back-up!"

[weebo]

i'd rather they sign a young, athletic player over dice at this juncture.

The FO has tried to bring in young and athletic bigs without much luck. Fact remains, the Spurs need a true back up big that has a decent outside game and can play physical defense. Given his knowledge of the Spurs complicated O and D schemes, he would be a good fit. Again, provided he has something left in the tank

[Trill Clinton]

The FO has tried to bring in young and athletic bigs without much luck. Fact remains, the Spurs need a true back up big that has a decent outside game and can play physical defense. Given his knowledge of the Spurs complicated O and D schemes, he would be a good fit. Again, provided he has something left in the tank

mcdyess sitting out a year and being close to 40 doesn't sit well with me.

i think we're expecting mcdyess to still play at the same level as he did 3 years ago.

if he can produce at a high level i'm all for it.

i don't think he has it in him to be productive.

curry just got waived, i'd rather have him over mcdyess.

[Paranoid Pop]

mcdyess sitting out a year and being close to 40 doesn't sit well with me.

i think we're expecting mcdyess to still play at the same level as he did 3 years ago.

if he can produce at a high level i'm all for it.

i don't think he has it in him to be productive.

curry just got waived, i'd rather have him over mcdyess.

He was better than Blair two years ago, can't see why he couldn't still be a big upgrade as a 4th big right now.

[dylankerouac]

They did get crushed by Memphis in 2011 but the effort was there. I remember Dice playing pretty solid defense on Randolph, the guy just absolutely couldnt miss. Gasol on the other hand was just too big and physical at the time. I hope he comes back and plays for the Spurs. He gave us some touhghness and he wasn't weakminded, which this team can always appreciate. At 38 he's probably still 10x the player Bonner is. I just really despise Matt Bonner. I don't know how there hasn't been an uprising with him ending up lynched.

Also, Dice had that stinger which limited his effectiveness though he still played tougher than anyone not named Duncan.

[SenorSpur]

i'd rather they sign a young, athletic player over dice at this juncture.

This.

Of course, it'd be great if they could do both.

[Vic Petro]

Who is the young, athletic player that they should sign? I'd rather have McDyess than Curry because at least Dice won't make mental errors on D for the next 6 months. He can also play next to Splitter.

[SenorSpur]

No offense to Dice, but he was running on fumes when he retired. How much could he possibly have left now? Don't get me wrong, I'd take him over Bonner, but as we all know and have seen, older players tend to wear out over the long season.

As I stated earlier, if the Spurs can bolster their frontline by somehow adding another current frontline player, I'd still take Dice as a bonus.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

yea. if dice does return then he needs to be the 5th or 6th big on the team. wouldnt last as a rotational big. Especially now that pops really pushing the tempo.

[weebo]

No offense to Dice, but he was running on fumes when he retired. How much could he possibly have left now? Don't get me wrong, I'd take him over Bonner, but as we all know and have seen, older players tend to wear out over the long season.

As I stated earlier, if the Spurs can bolster their frontline by somehow adding another current frontline player, I'd still take Dice as a bonus.

Like who? No one ever seems to answer that question. Sure it would be great if the Spurs could snatch up some athletic big who would eventually replace TD but none are out there. Besides, the Spurs are in win now mode. They don't have time for young big to "catch-on" and learn how to play within the system and with TD. Dice has done that, so there wouldn't be much of a teaching curve.

[Ditty]

This would of been perfect 3-5 years ago as we need a guy 6'9 or taller who can be a tough mobile defender and knock down outside shots but he's done. Still hoping for K Mart.

[Man In Black]

If McDyess was David Robinson with a bad back coming back with his same skills during the 03 Run, Many here would say that DRob 's game would be perfect here. McDyess would still have something to offer the Spurs the same way PJ Brown did with the 08 Celtics.

Any of that is of more help in the playoffs then missed 3 pointers from Bonner or underwhelming play from Blair. Of course, it Bonner was automatic from 3 and Blair was really the 2nd coming of Grandmama, then McDyess or any other stretch 4 ain't needed. But....they ain't any of that for any real semblance of time.

[dylankerouac]

Gah, never mind my text got deleted.

My point was that having Dice will make Pop call on Dice over Splitter, Blair and Bonner. I think the best thing that Pop can do is just let Splitter play.

[SpurNation]

I'm sure if he's thinking about it Spurs will be interested. If Dysse passes physicals and appears to be at a level when he retired Spurs offer him an invitation. Spurs need to improve their interior defense when Duncan's not on the court. Antonio (if as good as when he left) would be an upgrade to who they have now.

Also factor in the Spurs now have better perimeter defenders (Leonard, Jackson, Green) than they had when Dysse retired. One reason teams were so effective against the Spurs when Dysse played was a lack of perimeter defense which put undue pressure on the interior. Theoretically, Dysse would not have to play as exhaustive as he had to endure his last season with the Spurs if he played for them now.

[elemento]

The main difference is that if Dice comes now, He won't be the starting PF like a few years ago. He had to start because of Dejuan going Ed Curry just before the playoffs.

Dice would be the 3rd/4th BIG coming off the bench to play 15 minutes and for the role SA needs, he is perfect. He is a tough defender who knows Pop's system that can hit the mid-range jump-shot.

I would take Dice back pretty easily. As for the young athletic player that would contribute right away, I am assuming you guys have a lot of suggestions for the min salary.

[ChuckD]

but he has more balls and heart than Bonner so I'll take him anythime

Done is done.

[ChuckD]

They did get crushed by Memphis in 2011 but the effort was there. I remember Dice playing pretty solid defense on Randolph, the guy just absolutely couldnt miss. Gasol on the other hand was just too big and physical at the time. I hope he comes back and plays for the Spurs. He gave us some touhghness and he wasn't weakminded, which this team can always appreciate. At 38 he's probably still 10x the player Bonner is. I just really despise Matt Bonner. I don't know how there hasn't been an uprising with him ending up lynched.

Matt Bonner gives effort, too. Sometimes that just isn't enough.

[SenorSpur]

They did get crushed by Memphis in 2011 but the effort was there. I remember Dice playing pretty solid defense on Randolph, the guy just absolutely couldnt miss. Gasol on the other hand was just too big and physical at the time. I hope he comes back and plays for the Spurs. He gave us some touhghness and he wasn't weakminded, which this team can always appreciate. At 38 he's probably still 10x the player Bonner is. I just really despise Matt Bonner. I don't know how there hasn't been an uprising with him ending up lynched.

One thing that really struck me about Dice in that Memphis series was not just the effort he gave, but how emotional he was. There were a couple of instances where he uncharacteristically lost his temper with the officials. I attritubuted that to the fact that he knew this was his last series and he was leaving it ALL on the court. My respect level for him, which was already high, went up even more.

[dunkman]

Dice was really good in the 2010 playoffs, his defense on Dirk was part of the reason why the Spurs past the Mavs. He was also good in 2011, Z-Bo was just unstoppable.

However, after one year, I'm not sure if he has something left. Maybe he could play occasionaly to keep him fresh for the playoffs.

Another detail, even if he returns to the 11 form, is if the Duncan - Diaw / Splitter - Dice rotation can get past the Lakers bigman rotation.

[weebo]

Dice was really good in the 2010 playoffs, his defense on Dirk was part of the reason why the Spurs past the Mavs. He was also good in 2011, Z-Bo was just unstoppable.

However, after one year, I'm not sure if he has something left. Maybe he could play occasionaly to keep him fresh for the playoffs.

Another detail, even if he returns to the 11 form, is if the Duncan - Diaw / Splitter - Dice rotation can get past the Lakers bigman rotation.

Well, we know for sure that the Duncan-Diaw/Splitter-Blair & Bonner rotation won't cut it against the laker's frontline.

Dice, if anything, would bring defensive toughness to the floor ala Capn Jack. He could certainly provide that even if given limited minutes on the court.

[dunkman]

Well, we know for sure that the Duncan-Diaw/Splitter-Blair & Bonner rotation won't cut it against the laker's frontline.

Dice, if anything, would bring defensive toughness to the floor ala Capn Jack. He could certainly provide that even if given limited minutes on the court.

Dice is definitely an improvement over Bonner or Blair, by now its more than clear those players simply can't play in the playoffs. They still have a role in regular season, though.

Dice doesn't feel uncomfortable playing from the bench and he knows the system.

RC waked up last season with Leonard, Green, Jack, Diaw and Mills. This season with the addition of De Colo and the progress of Cory, the Spurs will finally address the backup PG problem.

Only an quality bigman is missing for serious contending.

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Hey the Knicks signed Rasheed right?

[therealtruth]

Well, we know for sure that the Duncan-Diaw/Splitter-Blair & Bonner rotation won't cut it against the laker's frontline.

Dice, if anything, would bring defensive toughness to the floor ala Capn Jack. He could certainly provide that even if given limited minutes on the court.

Seemed to work last year when we blew them out a couple of times.

[Plumblbw]

This is my favourite play from McDyess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCMHZjYLc9s&feature=related

This is when he set a concussive screen on Battier. Goto 1:10 then also watch the slow-mo replay afterwards. Brutal!

[Paranoid Pop]

Sign him already and get rid of Blair, a great locker room presence vs. a potential cancer, and it's probably an upgrade at the fourth big position. Bonner will be ok as a 5th big that only comes in once in a while for set plays.

http://cbsla.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/spurs.jpg?w=300

[antarescrane]

It's pretty amazing how much the spurs need a big right now lol. Tiago is looking horrible atm.

[SpurCharger]

Dice Was Done when He left.... Im Sure he Has Fallen Off Even more now.
Id Rather See Kmart Or Eddy Curry

[szkorhetz]

'Josh Smith wants OUT of Atlanta by the All-Star Break.'Time is now.

[Ice009]

Dice Was Done when He left.... Im Sure he Has Fallen Off Even more now.
Id Rather See Kmart Or Eddy Curry

How was Dice done when he left? He was one of the players that gave it his all out there. It's not his fault Pop limited his minutes, then expected him to play a lot more minutes at the end of the season and into the playoffs. Randolph was just playing out of his mind that whole series, doesn't mean Dice totally sucked, although I will say that Dice didn't have a great overall series, but still, he played hard out there.

I think Dice was probably frustrated with how the season ended and didn't want to come back because of it.

I think Dice played well both seasons when he was coming in off the bench, but then fell off a bit when Pop started him and asked him to carry a lot bigger load. He was really good in his bench role as a third big. I still think he can be great as a third or fourth big.

[8FOR!3]

Tbh if Rasheed Wallace can still play in the NBA, there's a good chance McDyess has something left to offer.

[Bruno]

Nobody knows, and that include Spurs, in what kind of shape Dice is. In addition to that, we can all agree Spurs aren't fine with what they have at PF/C. With that being said, it's hard to be against Spurs saying to Dice that they are interested in seeing how he looks in a practice/workout. Spurs can't stand pat, they have to look at everything, even long shots.

[BackHome]

Yeah we need some beef we are so freaking close to another ring just need to add a decent big someone better then Bonnor and Blair. Not asking for David Robinson just someone better then the B&B boys........:(

[ace3g]

not really breaking news but it at least rules out 1 team;

Darren Wolfson ‏@DarrenWolfson (https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson) Out-of-the-box #Twolves (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Twolves&src=hash) tweet: they're not on the list of teams Antonio McDyess has given his camp to pursue. McDyess, 38, making a comeback

[Sean Cagney]

'Josh Smith wants OUT of Atlanta by the All-Star Break.'Time is now.

No news for us Spurs fans though lol. He will require some good players or a good one and some picks for him. Bonner, Blair and Neal don't fit that bill.

[elemento]

The first thing Atlanta would ask for Smith would be Leonard. I wouldn't touch it. Not to mention that Smith will probably ask a massive new contract, probably close to the max. I don't think he is worth it. Let Atlanta or some other moronic franchise give him a huge contract. It will look as bad as Boozer or Amare's contract look right now.

[Chinook]

The first thing Atlanta would ask for Smith would be Leonard. I wouldn't touch it. Not to mention that Smith will probably ask a massive new contract, probably close to the max. I don't think he is worth it. Let Atlanta or some other moronic franchise give him a huge contract. It will look as bad as Boozer or Amare's contract look right now.

I dunno. Amare's looks bad because he's always hurt. Boozer's looks bad because he sucks on defense. Smith is a DPOY candidate. He is actually a decent Howard defender. If he's durable, he could be the type of player that greatly increases this team's defensive potential. My only thing is that I don't think the Spurs could get him without trading Jackson (for salaries). I don't think I'd want to trade Jack for anybody after the league removed that buyout loophole.

[Chinook]

Nor Leonard. Everyone else outside the Big Three would be up for grabs though, as well as however many picks it took if Smith agreed to an extension.

[rmt]

Dice could do a PJ Brown thing and join the Spurs in March. He knows the system so it wouldn't take too long to get back up to speed. Spurs only need him for 10 mins/game while Duncan/Diaw are on the bench. Together with a little small ball with SJax at PF, Dice (if he's got anything left) is a better option in the playoffs than Bonner or Blair. 15 minutes from Splitter and we'd never have to see Ginger in the playoffs.

Ah, the elusive young, athletic big - who could the Spurs afford and who would Pop trust in the playoffs?

[szkorhetz]

Dice could do a PJ Brown thing and join the Spurs in March. He knows the system so it wouldn't take too long to get back up to speed. Spurs only need him for 10 mins/game while Duncan/Diaw are on the bench. Together with a little small ball with SJax at PF, Dice (if he's got anything left) is a better option in the playoffs than Bonner or Blair. 15 minutes from Splitter and we'd never have to see Ginger in the playoffs.

Ah, the elusive young, athletic big - who could the Spurs afford and who would Pop trust in the playoffs?

Really? The Spurs system in 2011 was way fucking different than the Spurs system in 2012.
I love Jax too, but you guys would not give him up for a player who would make us instant contenders? He could defend all of Durant, Gasol and James. He is probably the most all-around defender in the whole NBA.

[Chinook]

Really? The Spurs system in 2011 was way fucking different than the Spurs system in 2012.
I love Jax too, but you guys would not give him up for a player who would make us instant contenders? He could defend all of Durant, Gasol and James. He is probably the most all-around defender in the whole NBA.

It's hard. In the Trade Machine links I have posted, I always have Jack go as part of the trade. But I don't know if I could send him away. He really seems to be at home here. Having had such a tumultuous career and life, I want him to be able to retire here. If Smith would sign an extension, I would probably make that trade and hope Jack signed back for the MLE or something in the summer. But he really is one of the most important keys of the Spurs playoff chances.

[Capt Bringdown]

Dice is extremely overrated by many Spursfans. The dude was already finished many years ago.
Old stiffs are not the answer.

[TD 21]

Dice could do a PJ Brown thing and join the Spurs in March. He knows the system so it wouldn't take too long to get back up to speed. Spurs only need him for 10 mins/game while Duncan/Diaw are on the bench. Together with a little small ball with SJax at PF, Dice (if he's got anything left) is a better option in the playoffs than Bonner or Blair. 15 minutes from Splitter and we'd never have to see Ginger in the playoffs.

Ah, the elusive young, athletic big - who could the Spurs afford and who would Pop trust in the playoffs?

Exactly.

Plus, if Splitter either get's injured or goes fetal in the playoffs again, he'd be another backup center option. That's obviously not ideal, but even at his age and having not played in over a year and a half, I'd still feel more comfortable with him having to play that role than Blair.

Speaking of playing center, outside of Duncan, he's probably still a better option to defend Howard than any other big on this team (not that that's saying much, but still). I remember a game, I believe it was three seasons ago, where Duncan got into foul trouble and he guarded Howard for much of the game and did yeoman's work.

[therealtruth]

Exactly.

Plus, if Splitter either get's injured or goes fetal in the playoffs again, he'd be another backup center option. That's obviously not ideal, but even at his age and having not played in over a year and a half, I'd still feel more comfortable with him having to play that role than Blair.

Speaking of playing center, outside of Duncan, he's probably still a better option to defend Howard than any other big on this team (not that that's saying much, but still). I remember a game, I believe it was three seasons ago, where Duncan got into foul trouble and he guarded Howard for much of the game and did yeoman's work.

The way to avoid Splitter going fetal is to play him 20+ minutes a night and make sure his confidence remains high.

[Kidd K]

I'd happily trade Jackson for Smith.

Tbh: Jackson + Splitter + Neal + Blair + 2 2nd rounders for Smith and Korver.

We'd be in good position to win with that trade. . .plus you never know, Smith may decide to stay for a slightly less than max deal. 26 y/o big. Not a bad replacement for Timmy when he retires. Then again, Holt probably isn't willing to go into the tax for a couple years for 2-3 more strong chances at titles. Still. . .nice to think about.

[elemento]

Of course SA will be in a good position to win after that trade. It's pretty much a rape without lube for San Antonio.

SA 2nd rounders are worthless, I don't think they will keep S-Jax so essentially you're getting Josh Smith for a backup Center, a backup SG and a backup PF.

Not gonna happen.

[therealtruth]

I'd happily trade Jackson for Smith.

Tbh: Jackson + Splitter + Neal + Blair + 2 2nd rounders for Smith and Korver.

We'd be in good position to win with that trade. . .plus you never know, Smith may decide to stay for a slightly less than max deal. 26 y/o big. Not a bad replacement for Timmy when he retires. Then again, Holt probably isn't willing to go into the tax for a couple years for 2-3 more strong chances at titles. Still. . .nice to think about.

Smith maybe athletic but he's got terrible basketball IQ.

[Andthentherewas21]

Smith isn't even on the table so there is no point in talking about him. He's no longer asking for a trade and the Hawks have already indicated he is a big part of their future plans. If you think Ferry is going to help the spurs out by taking 3 older players all on expiring contracts, an undersized C with no ACLs, and 2nd round picks for him then your going to be disappointed.

[Kidd K]

Smith isn't even on the table so there is no point in talking about him. He's no longer asking for a trade and the Hawks have already indicated he is a big part of their future plans. If you think Ferry is going to help the spurs out by taking 3 older players all on expiring contracts, an undersized C with no ACLs, and 2nd round picks for him then your going to be disappointed.

I don't think anyone thinks it'll happen. It's just something nice to think about since we pretty much never make any big moves.

[dbestpro]

Imagine if the Internet stopped talking aobut things there is no point in talking about they might have to shut the thing down.