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101A
11-06-2012, 09:16 AM
FWIW

My neighbors (Doctor and his wife) were walking to the poll this morning. They NEVER vote; as far as I know, completely a-political. They are Catholic; voting for Romney.

What does this mean?

Romney, in my opinion, won't lose Pa by as large a margin as McCain did.

DarrinS
11-06-2012, 09:21 AM
I read that Obama ended his campaign in a half empty stadium -- and that was with Springsteen and Jay-Z.

Polls don't appear to comport with reality.

101A
11-06-2012, 09:33 AM
I read that Obama ended his campaign in a half empty stadium -- and that was with Springsteen and Jay-Z.

Polls don't appear to comport with reality.

To a certain extent I can agree with you; but pollsters (most of them) make their money polling for organizations that are NOT running for president; this is simply the biggest stage they have to "get it right". If they miss, it costs $$$$; bias or not, the final polls are their best estimation, IMO. Newspaper, or media polls, however, I could imagine having a bias.

That said, living up here, and getting "polled" so much, I do fuck with them sometimes; not sure how many other people might....

Last month I was a Democrat voting "Romney"

Two days ago I indicated I was a Republican voting "Green".

Last week, an Independent voting "Other" (the honest answer)

Bartleby
11-06-2012, 09:37 AM
I read that Obama ended his campaign in a half empty stadium -- and that was with Springsteen and Jay-Z.


That's "reality"?

DarrinS
11-06-2012, 10:40 AM
That's "reality"?

Reality is early Obama voting down from 2008, early Romney voting up (from McCain levels), and independens strongly leaning Romney.

ElNono
11-06-2012, 10:48 AM
Reality is early Obama voting down from 2008, early Romney voting up (from McCain levels), and independens strongly leaning Romney.

In Philly? Source?

ElNono
11-06-2012, 10:50 AM
FWIW

My neighbors (Doctor and his wife) were walking to the poll this morning. They NEVER vote; as far as I know, completely a-political. They are Catholic; voting for Romney.

What does this mean?

Romney, in my opinion, won't lose Pa by as large a margin as McCain did.

I expect PA to be closer than 2008... still blue. GOP would've had better chances if their voter ID law wouldn't have been suspended, IMO.

DarrinS
11-06-2012, 10:54 AM
In Philly? Source?

Where did I mention Philly?

ElNono
11-06-2012, 11:02 AM
Where did I mention Philly?

Isn't this thread about Philly?

ElNono
11-06-2012, 11:02 AM
Sorry, I mean Pennsylvania?

101A
11-06-2012, 11:07 AM
Yes, Pa

Bartleby
11-06-2012, 11:17 AM
Reality is early Obama voting down from 2008, early Romney voting up (from McCain levels), and independens strongly leaning Romney.

Is that information gleaned from polls?

dbestpro
11-06-2012, 11:17 AM
A loss is a loss even if it is by a closer margin.

boutons_deux
11-06-2012, 11:19 AM
"Reality is early Obama voting down from 2008, early Romney voting up (from McCain levels), and independens strongly leaning Romney."

Darrin is an equal-opportunity DENIER. Never saw a fact he would deny. :lol

101A
11-06-2012, 11:21 AM
A loss is a loss even if it is by a closer margin.

Wow.

Profound.

ErnestLynch
11-06-2012, 11:21 AM
Ohio isn't the place that will matter. Wisconsin and Minnesota. Romney polled +1 by very reliable poster, Glen Bolger, who called many elections exactly as they finished, of note was the Reid - Angler Nevada Senate Race. He show Romney up 1 in MN. Think about that. That's why Obama send Bill Clinton there to try to save it. Ryan is from Wisconsin, they have gone through conservative upswing. Romney will probably carry Wisconsin as well. Both narrowly, but he will carry them. And it will be over. Ohio will be irrelevent.

ElNono
11-06-2012, 11:23 AM
Yes, Pa

You ok over there after Sandy?

dbestpro
11-06-2012, 11:24 AM
Wow.

Profound.

Thank you for your kind comments. it is always rewarding to enlighten the condescending.

Bartleby
11-06-2012, 11:32 AM
Ohio isn't the place that will matter. Wisconsin and Minnesota. Romney polled +1 by very reliable poster, Glen Bolger, who called many elections exactly as they finished, of note was the Reid - Angler Nevada Senate Race. He show Romney up 1 in MN. Think about that.

If a GOP strategist/pollster like Bolger sees it that way I guess Obama must be in trouble there.

101A
11-06-2012, 11:44 AM
You ok over there after Sandy?

Sump pump finally stopped running yesterday; basement stayed dry.

Th'Pusher
11-06-2012, 11:44 AM
I read that Obama ended his campaign in a half empty stadium -- and that was with Springsteen and Jay-Z.

Polls don't appear to comport with reality.

:lol do you link to Breitbart from Drudge or do you have it bookmarked?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/05/Obama-closes-to-half-empty-stadium-in-Ohio

cantthinkofanything
11-06-2012, 11:47 AM
I read that Obama ended his campaign in a half empty stadium -- and that was with Springsteen and Jay-Z.

Polls don't appear to comport with reality.

Reality

blacks : "Bruce Sprangsteeeen...yo fuck that"
whites: "Jay Z. Think of all the black people that will be there. No way."
= half empty stadium

ElNono
11-06-2012, 11:50 AM
Sump pump finally stopped running yesterday; basement stayed dry.

good stuff...

Heath Ledger
11-06-2012, 11:54 AM
In Vegas they are already paying people off who bet on Obama.