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Winehole23
11-07-2012, 02:12 PM
Dear Republicans,



Sorry about the election. I know how much it hurts when your presidential candidate loses. I’ve been there many times. You’re crestfallen. You can’t believe the public voted for that idiot. You fear for your country.



Cheer up. The guy we just re-elected is a moderate Republican.



I know how stupid that sounds. Barack Obama is the head of the Democratic Party. For five years, conservative politicians and media told you he was a raving socialist. In the heat of the campaign, when you’re trying to beat the guy, it’s hard to let go of that image of him, just as it’s hard for Democrats to see past the caricatures of Mitt Romney. But now that the campaign is over and you’re staring at a second Obama term, the falsity of the propaganda may come as a relief. By and large, Obama’s instincts are the instincts of a moderate Republican. His policies are the policies of a moderate Republican. He stands where the GOP used to stand and will someday stand again.



Yes, Obama began his presidency with bailouts, stimulus, and borrowing. You know who started the bailouts? George W. Bush. Bush knew that under these exceptionally dire circumstances, bailouts had to be done. Stimulus had to be done, too, since the economy had frozen up. A third of the stimulus was tax cuts. Once the economy began to revive, Obama offered a $4-trillion debt reduction framework that would have cut $3 to $6 of spending for every $1 in tax hikes. That’s a higher ratio of cuts to hikes than Republican voters, in a Gallup poll, said they preferred (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/house-republicans-no-tax-stance-far-outside-political-mainstream/). It’s way more conservative than the ratio George H. W. Bush accepted in 1990. In last year’s debt-ceiling talks, Obama offered cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in exchange for revenue that didn’t even come from higher tax rates. Now he’s proposing to lower corporate tax rates, and Republicans are whining that he hacked $716 billion out of Medicare (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/08/paul_ryan_s_medicare_flip_flop_is_a_betrayal_of_co nservatism_.html). Some socialist.





Yes, Obama imposed an individual mandate to buy health insurance. You know who else did that? Romney. You know where the idea came from? The Heritage Foundation (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/294585/history-individual-mandate-ramesh-ponnuru). Personal responsibility—insisting that people carry private insurance so we don’t have to bail them out in emergency rooms and hospitals—was a Republican idea. Same with Wall Street reform: There’s nothing conservative about letting financial institutions gamble with other people’s money in ways that would force us to bail them out again. Even Obama’s cap-and-trade proposal echoed the market-based emissions-control policies of the 1990 Bush administration and the 2008 McCain campaign (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-revealed-a-moderate-republican/2011/04/25/AFPrGfkE_story.html). And last year, when the EPA proposed a new air-pollution limit, Obama ticked off environmentalists by killing it (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/science/earth/03air.html) on the grounds that it might jeopardize the recovery.



Remember how Democrats ridiculed George W. Bush’s troop surge in Iraq? Obama copied it in Afghanistan. He escalated the drone program (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2011/04/terminators_to_tripoli.html), killing off al-Qaida’s leaders (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/05/obama_s_drone_war_the_kill_list_leaves_out_the_rea l_story_.html). He sent SEAL Team 6 into Pakistan to get Osama Bin Laden (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2011/05/their_fates_were_sealed.html). He teamed up with NATO to take down Muammar Qaddafi (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/10/obama_s_foreign_policy_debate_from_bin_laden_to_li bya_to_drones_he_s_the.html). He reneged on his pledge to close Guantanamo Bay. He put together a globally enforced regime of sanctions that is bringing Iran’s economy to its knees. That’s why Romney had nothing to say in last month’s foreign policy debate (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/10/obama_s_foreign_policy_debate_from_bin_laden_to_li bya_to_drones_he_s_the.html). No sensible Republican president would have done things differently.



Obama’s no right-winger. You might have serious issues with his Supreme Court justices or his moves on immigration or the Bush tax cuts. But you probably would have had similar issues with Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, or Gerald Ford. Obama’s in the same mold as those guys. So don’t despair. Your country didn’t vote for a socialist tonight. It voted for the candidate of traditional Republican moderation. What should gall you, haunt you, and goad you to think about the future of your party is that that candidate wasn’t yours.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/obama_the_moderate_republican_what_the_2012_electi on_should_teach_the_gop.html

coyotes_geek
11-07-2012, 02:18 PM
:tu

Yep. Pretty much nailed it.

leemajors
11-07-2012, 02:20 PM
I dunno all the people I knew in Victoria from HS all tell me he is a socialist on facebook

Jacob1983
11-08-2012, 12:12 AM
http://pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/obama-predator-drone.jpg?w=529

Winehole23
11-08-2012, 04:16 AM
Republicans are against that? Count me surprised.

timvp
11-08-2012, 04:48 AM
Agreed. Same ish, different toilet seat. Nowadays most differences are merely theoretical, tbh.

Jacob1983
11-08-2012, 04:53 AM
A lot of Obama supporters need to own up to the fact that they are apparently okay and fine with Obama having a near identical foreign policy to Bush yet they called Bush a war criminal and camped out at his ranch in Texas demanding that the war in Iraq end while he was president. Hypocrites.

Winehole23
11-08-2012, 04:55 AM
True, but a lot of Bush critics criticize Obama for doing the same thing. I'm one of them. Maybe you should own up to that. Not all Bush critics were hypocrites.

Winehole23
11-22-2019, 11:47 AM
Bruce Bartlett, same song different verse:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obama-is-a-republican/

Winehole23
11-22-2019, 11:47 AM
Toady to the rich and powerful:

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/what-obama-really-wants/

Winehole23
11-22-2019, 11:49 AM
Oldie but a goodie: Tory Obama

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2012/08/24/americas-tory-president/

Winehole23
11-23-2019, 12:36 AM
Commie Kenyan terrorist lover, tbh

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Winehole23
11-23-2019, 12:38 PM
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AaronY
11-24-2019, 03:08 AM
Commie Kenyan terrorist lover, tbh

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I hate to break your string of talking to yourself in your process of demonizing a guy with a 95% approval rating among Democrats in order to advance your cause within the Democratic primary.........but I have to interject here..

All of that money went to fundraise for the eventual Democratic nominee lmfao. If your boy Bernie wasn't doing so astronomically shitty in the fucking polls he'd be able to use that money to win the presidency: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/amp/Obama-to-star-at-Los-Altos-fundraiser-where-top-14831466.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20 (Mobile)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&__twitter_impression=true