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HeatChamps
11-09-2012, 07:29 PM
It's all fucking bullshit. They should talk about what they know about.

boutons_deux
11-09-2012, 07:55 PM
still suckering "Christian" moralist and trying to impose their morality on the country.

btw, the biggest sector that contributed to anti-marijuana proposition in CA was the alcohol sector, so I expected Fox Repug network is looking suck in some alcohol advertizing, certainly not lose any for taking a pro-marijuan stand or even no stand.

SnakeBoy
11-09-2012, 10:11 PM
It's all fucking bullshit. They should talk about what they know about.

What are they saying and who specifically?

In the past I've seen Hannity talk on the legalization issue, he did not seem for it but not adamantly opposed either.

OReilly is the only one I've seen who is completely opposed. He is stuck on his "what about the children" argument, which doesn't make sense.

Jacob1983
11-09-2012, 11:44 PM
FOX News needs to quit their bitching and just go to Colorado or Washington and light up some doobies and smoke them.

boutons_deux
11-11-2012, 01:33 PM
Gov. Brown tells the Obama administration to back off on marijuana

California Gov. Jerry Brown said Sunday on CNN that the Obama administration should respect states that choose to legalize the use of marijuana for medicinal or recreational purposes.

“It’s time for the Justice Department to recognize the sovereignty of the states,” Brown said, noting that a number of states had medical marijuana laws. “I believe the president and the Department of Justice ought to respect the will of these separate states.”

Colorado and Washington state both legalized the recreational use of marijuana on Election Day. However, the federal Drug Enforcement Administration still classifies marijuana as a schedule I drug: the most restrictive classification, reserved drugs with a high potential for abuse and no accepted medicinal value.

Brown said that federal law shouldn’t “nullify reasonable state measures” like regulated marijuana legalization.

“We are capable of self-government,” he added. “We don’t need some federal gendarme to come and tell us what to do. I believe in comity toward the states, that’s a decent respect.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/11/gov-brown-tells-the-obama-administration-to-back-off-on-marijuana/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/11/gov-brown-tells-the-obama-administration-to-back-off-on-marijuana/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Bill_Brasky
11-11-2012, 01:40 PM
I was watching First Take and they were talking about NFL players using it, and Bill Romanowski of all people was pulling out every bullshit 50's anti-weed propaganda take I've heard of.

Yes, THAT Bill Romanowski, the same fucking faggot that used steroids and ended his teammate's career by punching his eye socket out.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-11-2012, 01:42 PM
This is where it's time for Obama to start backing up that "forward" motto his campaign used. There's no valid reason why he shouldn't back off the war on drugs now.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-11-2012, 01:43 PM
I was watching First Take and they were talking about NFL players using it, and Bill Romanowski of all people was pulling out every bullshit 50's anti-weed propaganda take I've heard of.

Yes, THAT Bill Romanowski, the same fucking faggot that used steroids and ended his teammate's career by punching his eye socket out.
:lol the one who openly talks about breaking players fingers when there was a pile up just for the fun of it?

boutons_deux
11-11-2012, 04:19 PM
After Passage Of Legalization Initiative, 220 Marijuana Cases Dismissed In Washington State

Following the successful passage of a state referendum legalizing small amounts of marijuana for recreational use, two county prosecutors in Washington state have dismissed hundreds of misdemeanor marijuana cases. Although, the effective date of the referendum is not until December 6, the prosecutors used their discretion to apply the new rule retroactively.

The move underscores how, even though marijuana possession remains illegal under federal law, state initiatives legalizing possession for recreational use in Washington and Colorado could have far-reaching consequences. As a practical matter, virtually all arrests and prosecutions for marijuana possession occur at the state level.

The Department of Justice could sue to block enforcement of the law. Thus far, the federal government has not indicated if they will directly challenge Colorado and Washington.

In 2010, over 750,000 people in the United States were charged with possession of marijuana only.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/10/1176151/after-passage-of-legalization-initiative-220-marijuana-cases-dismissed-in-washington-state/

Having an mj arrest record (no conviction, no jail) does wonders for your job prospects.

Drachen
11-11-2012, 04:49 PM
This is where it's time for Obama to start backing up that "forward" motto his campaign used. There's no valid reason why he shouldn't back off the war on drugs now.

The only thing I can think of is how does he sell it? If he goes "states rights" doesn't he get abortion backlash? Or does he just not care about that?

(honest question, no ulterior motive)

coyotes_geek
11-12-2012, 09:15 AM
There's no valid reason why he shouldn't back off the war on drugs now.

Sure there is. He's a closet republican and supports the war on drugs.

boutons_deux
11-12-2012, 09:24 AM
I bet Barry won't remove mj from Schedule I because of the black angle. The Repugs and "Christians" and PIC would be all over his ass saying he was doing black stoners a favor.

scott
11-12-2012, 10:13 AM
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/07/doocy-on-marijuana-vote-whats-to-keep-somebody/191200

Great points by Doocy. Hate it when people get "potted up"

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-12-2012, 10:37 AM
I bet Barry won't remove mj from Schedule I because of the black angle. The Repugs and "Christians" and PIC would be all over his ass saying he was doing black stoners a favor.

That's a total cop out that might have flied in his first term but now that he's won his 2nd term sure as hell isn't gonna fly now. Obama just won a reelection by completely ignoring and shrugging off everything the Christian right said about him, it's a total reflection on his weaknesses as a leader if he's gonna let asinine accusations they might come up with stop him from doing the obvious. Don't single out the religious right for the war on drugs, they're a huge part of it but so are the Democrats.

The reason why Obama is gonna keep weed on Schedule I is because he's in big pharma's and the privatized prison industry's back pocket.

TeyshaBlue
11-12-2012, 10:42 AM
The only thing I can think of is how does he sell it? If he goes "states rights" doesn't he get abortion backlash? Or does he just not care about that?

(honest question, no ulterior motive)

Yeah, once you let that states rights thing outta the bag, it's hard to stuff it back in.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-12-2012, 10:49 AM
The only thing I can think of is how does he sell it? If he goes "states rights" doesn't he get abortion backlash? Or does he just not care about that?

(honest question, no ulterior motive)
He's in his 2nd term so he shouldn't care about abortion backlash. He just won a reelection not giving a shit about backlash from the religious, "state rights!" crowd, I'm tired of other liberals using that as an excuse for Obama.

On another note, it is really sad that we live in a country so infected by religion where if you give states the right to legalize weed, people will respond with, "Well then, why can't states control what women do to their own body!" It's never gonna happen, but I don't think the legalization of weed should be a state right. There should be a federal law legalizing weed in all 50 states to make sure Alabama and Mississippi can't continue to keep it illegal as a reason to incarcerate minorities.

Drachen
11-12-2012, 11:17 AM
I wasn't trying to use it as an excuse, but I can see how the game is played from afar. My opinion is that "he should just not care about it". The question was will he? Weed being illegal is dumb, and this is coming from someone who has absolutely no desire to smoke.

Jacob1983
11-13-2012, 02:46 AM
What about casinos, prostitution, and unions? No one has a problem with states making the call on those issues. Americans seem to pick and choose what they think should be decided by the states and what should be decided by Uncle Sam.

Latarian Milton
11-13-2012, 03:29 AM
legalizing drugs or not is just as little of a federal issue as gay marriage tbh

AussieFanKurt
11-13-2012, 06:29 AM
why do they give a fuck, do they seriously think people smoking weed is going to impact their life - just a reason to have a bitch for the sake of it

boutons_deux
11-13-2012, 06:58 AM
"why do they give a fuck,"

because they know their Bible-worshipping rural asshole puritans want to stop anything that's pleasurable, from women having sex to anybody smoking dope. Fox knows exactly how igorant, stupid, and moralistically obsessed their bubba viewers are, and sucker them in like the best TV evangelists and tent meeting snake handlers.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-13-2012, 08:43 AM
What about casinos, prostitution, and unions? No one has a problem with states making the call on those issues. Americans seem to pick and choose what they think should be decided by the states and what should be decided by Uncle Sam.
Is this where you get really butthurt about abortion and gay marriage but insist you're OK with abortion and gay marriage?

ALVAREZ6
11-13-2012, 09:00 PM
It's all fucking bullshit. They should talk about what they know about.
They'd be left with very little to talk about imo....maybe it'd turn into a Christian network, only they'd probably fuck up very often since most of those clowns are likely fake Christians.

AussieFanKurt
11-13-2012, 09:13 PM
They'd be left with very little to talk about imo....maybe it'd turn into a Christian network, only they'd probably fuck up very often since most of those clowns are likely fake Christians.

yeah using it as an excuse to be a bigot and get away with it

Jacob1983
11-13-2012, 10:14 PM
My butt isn't hurt at all. I think abortion is baby killing and the easy way out but I would rather have it be legal and not have to hear women bitch about it. Personally, I think abortion should only be legal in cases of rape, incest, and if the mother is going to die and maybe in the first 3 months. If it's not under those cases then tough shit, LMAO! I don't have a problem with homosexuals having sex and getting married. They can do whatever they want.

And I would love for Texas to have casinos and legal weed.

boutons_deux
11-14-2012, 08:35 PM
Fox Repug Propaganda network always in close step with The American People

Even Repug in-house poller Rasmussen can't screw this one up

7% Think U.S. Is Winning War on Drugs

Eighty-two percent (82%) say the country is not winning the fight against illegal drugs.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/november_2012/7_think_u_s_is_winning_war_on_drugs

boutons_deux
11-15-2012, 01:25 PM
In Response to Amendment 64, Boulder DA Dismisses Marijuana Cases (http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/11/15/in-response-to-amendment-64-boulder-da-dismisses-marijuana-cases/)

District Attorney Stan Garnett will dismiss all pending criminal cases of possession of less than an ounce of marijuana, saying the overwhelming support for Amendment 64 in Boulder County makes it highly unlikely a jury would ever reach a guilty verdict in any of those cases.

“You’ve seen an end to mere possession cases in Boulder County under my office,” Garnett said Wednesday, becoming the first Colorado district attorney to drop pot cases because Colorado voters approved Amendment 64 earlier this month.

As a result of the announcement, police officials across Boulder County also stated they will no longer issue marijuana-possession citations in light of Amendment 64. The constitutional amendment will legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana in Colorado for those 21 or older.



http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/11/15/in-response-to-amendment-64-boulder-da-dismisses-marijuana-cases/

Coors is gonna have his ass.

johnsmith
11-15-2012, 03:23 PM
Am I missing something here? I haven't seen where Fox News has been mentioned in this thread other than in the title and in Scott's post of a tweet.

johnsmith
11-15-2012, 03:27 PM
In Response to Amendment 64, Boulder DA Dismisses Marijuana Cases (http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/11/15/in-response-to-amendment-64-boulder-da-dismisses-marijuana-cases/)

District Attorney Stan Garnett will dismiss all pending criminal cases of possession of less than an ounce of marijuana, saying the overwhelming support for Amendment 64 in Boulder County makes it highly unlikely a jury would ever reach a guilty verdict in any of those cases.

“You’ve seen an end to mere possession cases in Boulder County under my office,” Garnett said Wednesday, becoming the first Colorado district attorney to drop pot cases because Colorado voters approved Amendment 64 earlier this month.

As a result of the announcement, police officials across Boulder County also stated they will no longer issue marijuana-possession citations in light of Amendment 64. The constitutional amendment will legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana in Colorado for those 21 or older.



http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/11/15/in-response-to-amendment-64-boulder-da-dismisses-marijuana-cases/

Coors is gonna have his ass.

I'm nearly positive that Coors is in Jefferson County.....not that they still won't be pissed.

Oh, and having grown up in Colorado, I can assure you that suprisingly, no one there really likes Coors.

boutons_deux
11-15-2012, 03:59 PM
I'm nearly positive that Coors is in Jefferson County.....not that they still won't be pissed.

Oh, and having grown up in Colorado, I can assure you that suprisingly, no one there really likes Coors.

the two biggest contributing opponents to CA mj proposition were 1) the police associations, natch (they gotta have something to pad their quotas. like frying n!gg@s and browns) and 2) the alcohol industry. Coors knows damn well widespread legal mj use would have a serious hit on alcohol consumption.

johnsmith
11-15-2012, 04:36 PM
the two biggest contributing opponents to CA mj proposition were 1) the police associations, natch (they gotta have something to pad their quotas. like frying n!gg@s and browns) and 2) the alcohol industry. Coors knows damn well widespread legal mj use would have a serious hit on alcohol consumption.

So why would coors be the only ones upset?

boutons_deux
11-15-2012, 04:59 PM
So why would coors be the only ones upset?

What other national beer brewer has HQ in CO?

And of course Coors is well-known for supporting extreme right wing causes.

johnsmith
11-15-2012, 05:07 PM
What other national beer brewer has HQ in CO?

And of course Coors is well-known for supporting extreme right wing causes.

Anheusier (sp?), has a gigantic brewery in Ft. Collins. There are also a million micro brews.............


Totally off subject though, I was just fucking around. I get your point.

boutons_deux
11-18-2012, 02:25 AM
Seattle's Police Department Releases Humorous Guide on How to Get Stoned, After Initiative to Legalize Pot Passes

Last week, the Seattle Police Department quietly released the hillarious how-to, Marijwhatnow? A Guide to Legal Marijuana Use In Seattle . Witty and silly, it covers all the bases, from driving stoned to drug tests for jobs and whether police themselves can get high. It begins:

The people have spoken. Voters have passed Initiative 502 and beginning December 6th, it is not a violation of state law for adults over 21 years old to possess up to an ounce of marijuana (or 16 ounces of solid marijuana-infused product, like cookies, or 72 ounces of infused liquid, like oil) for personal use. The initiative establishes a one-year period for the state to develop rules and a licensing system for the marijuana production and sale.

Marijuana has existed in a grey area in Seattle for some time now. Despite a longstanding national prohibition on marijuana, minor marijuana possession has been the lowest enforcement priority for the Seattle Police Department since Seattle voters passed Initiative 75 in 2003. Officers don’t like grey areas in the law. I-502 now gives them more clarity.

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/seattles-police-department-releases-humorous-guide-how-get-stoned-after-initiative-legalize

boutons_deux
11-18-2012, 09:59 AM
Wisconsin asks hunters to watch for marijuana fields

Marijuana growing operations in Wisconsin, watch out: the U.S. Forest Service has instructed hunters to look out for fields in the state’s Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest, reported CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/17/us/wisconsin-marijuana/index.html?hpt=hp_c2).

In August, one fisherman in the state came upon a 8,000-plant growing operation worth $8 million.

“Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest is large, secluded and heavily roaded, so our personnel cannot by themselves keep an eye on every acre,,”

Police interviews with those who have been apprehended on growing operations revealed that most were undocumented immigrants. Some claim they were sent from California knowing their eventual task, but others say they were unaware they would be growing marijuana and did not know what state they were working in.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/17/wisconsin-asks-hunters-to-watch-for-marijuana-fields/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

How many deputized hunters harvest a couple $1000 for themselves before snitching to the USFS? :)

leemajors
11-18-2012, 10:05 AM
What other national beer brewer has HQ in CO?

And of course Coors is well-known for supporting extreme right wing causes.

MillerCoors is HQ'd in Chicago, technically.

boutons_deux
11-29-2012, 07:15 AM
Why Are We Testing Newborns for Pot?

Employees at US hospitals are testing more and more newborns for cannabis exposure. And, with alarming frequency, they are getting the wrong results. So say a pair of recent studies documenting the unreliability of infant drug testing.

In the most recent trial, published in the September edition of the journal Clinical Chemistry, investigators at the University of Utah School of Medicine evaluated the rate of unconfirmed 'positive' immunoassay test results in infant and non-infant urine samples over a 52-week period. Shockingly, authors found [3] that positive tests for carboxy THC, a byproduct of THC screened for in immunoassay urine tests, were 59 times less likely to be confirmed in infant urine specimens as compared to non-infant urine samples. Overall, 47 percent of the infant 'positive' immunoassay urine samples evaluated did not test for the presence of carboxy THC when confirmatory assay measures were later performed.

Immunoassay testing – the standard technology utilized in workplace drug testing – relies on the use of antibodies (proteins that will react to a particular substance or a group of very similar substances) to document whether a specific reaction occurs. Therefore, a 'positive' result on an immunoassay test presumes that a certain quantity of a particular substance may be present in the sample, but it does not actually identify the presence of the substance itself. A more specific chemical test, known as chromatography, must be performed in order to confirm any preliminary analytical test results. Samples that test positive on the presumptive immunoassay test, but then later test negative on the confirmatory test are known as false positives.

False positive test results for cannabis’ carboxy THC metabolite are relatively uncommon in adult specimens. Among newborns’ specimens, however, false positive results for alleged cannabis exposure are disturbingly prevalent. [4]

For example, in April, researchers at the University of North Carolina reported in the journalClinical Biochemistry that various chemicals present in various baby wash products, such as Johnson's Head-to-Toe Baby Wash and CVS Baby Wash, frequently cross-react [5] with the immunoassay test to cause false positive results for carboxy THC. “[The] addition of Head-to-Toe Baby Wash to drug-free urine produced a dose dependent measureable response in the THC immunoassay,” the investigators concluded [6]. “Addition of other commercially available baby soaps gave similar results, and subsequent testing identified specific chemical surfactants that reacted with the THC immunoassay. … Given these consequences, it is important for laboratories and providers to be aware of this potential source for false positive screening results and to consider confirmation before initiating interventions.”

Following the publication of the UNC study, researchers at the University of Utah screened for the presence of baby soap contaminants in infant urine. Surprisingly, they didn’t find any [7]. Rather, they concluded that the disproportionately high rate of false positive test results discovered among their samples were the result of a cross-reaction with some other, yet to be determined constituent. They cautioned: “Until the compounds contributing to positive urine screen results in infants are identified, we encourage the use of alternative specimens for the detection and investigation of neonatal exposure to cannabinoids. Screen-positive cannabinoid results from infant samples should not be reported without confirmation or appropriate consultation, because they cannot currently be interpreted.”

http://www.alternet.org/print/drugs/why-are-we-testing-newborns-pot

part of the reason US health care is 2x more expensive than other countries. :) Utah and NC, fucking NoWhereLand and the Confederacy.