Why is Jerry Sloan being talked about as a good candidate for LA?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Kurt "I'm fuckin retarded" Rambis was saying yesterday D'antoni would be a horrible fit but Sloan would be a good fit. Why? Sloan is just like D'antoni....low post scorers are useless in his offense, his teams are always mediocre at defense, the SG is always in a completely complementary role, and his teams always under achieve in the playoffs. It's a given how bad of a candidate D'antoni would be, but Sloan would be just as bad.

[LakaFan]

I agree son

[dbreiden83080]

Why would anyone under any circumstances ever consider hiring D'antoni? He can't coach D or motivate players.. The Lakers O might get on track but nobody would respect him in the locker room..

[Raven]

because he is a great coach I guess..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

^Everyone already knows that about D'antoni and no one is trying to debate it. Sloan, largely because his teams always had tons of "blue collar" white players, and for whatever other reasons, has developed the reputation of a coach who's teams are hard nosed, play great defense, execute very well in the half court, and do very well in the playoffs, when that isn't the case at all. Sloan's teams have been up tempo PG-oriented teams that run nothing other than pick and rolls in the half court, play mediocre defense, can gimmick their way to 50+ wins every year, then get out-toughed in the playoffs. He's a glorified Mike D'antoni.

[Raven]

^Everyone already knows that about D'antoni and no one is trying to debate it. Sloan, largely because his teams always had tons of "blue collar" white players, and for whatever other reasons, has developed the reputation of a coach who's teams are hard nosed, play great defense, execute very well in the half court, and do very well in the playoffs, when that isn't the case at all. Sloan's teams have been up tempo PG-oriented teams that run nothing other than pick and rolls in the half court, play mediocre defense, can gimmick their way to 50+ wins every year, then get out-toughed in the playoffs. He's a glorified Mike D'antoni.

I think that being pnr freaks is the only thing you can relate d'antoni with sloan..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think that being pnr freaks is the only thing you can relate d'antoni with sloan..

great regular season success compared to repeated playoff failures, being incapable of getting their teams to consistently play D, and always letting low post scorers go for career highs on a regular basis. The similarities go far beyond the fact their "offensive genius" consisted of whoring the pick and roll and never running any other plays in the half court.

[Raven]

great regular season success compared to repeated playoff failures, being incapable of getting their teams to consistently play D, and always letting low post scorers go for career highs on a regular basis. The similarities go far beyond the fact their "offensive genius" consisted of whoring the pick and roll and never running any other plays in the half court.

I don't consider an nba final a failure, at least when you're never the favourite to begin with.. Sloan created an environment of success, somewhere where you don't need to stat pad to be cool, and he did not consider playin D as a shame, so no, I don't consider them similar by any means.. And really I don't consider Sloan an offensive genius either. Anyway, the pick would be really stupid, I mean, let the old man with a leg in the grave leave in peace, he's really really old, like really old not like old for sports..

[Proxy]

That's a strong opinion to say he's an underachiever when his best teams were running into Phil and MJ and the teams post Stockton/Malone weren't on a championship level talent-wise. He always had the team playing physical ball. This Lakers team on paper should have a good defense.

[DPG21920]

I disagree a lot about D'Antoni for LA. I think the upside there is tremendous and to me he should be the coach that is hired.

[mavs>spurs]

the SG is always in a completely complementary role

maybe he IS the one guy LA needs, tbh :lol

[JMarkJohns]

Good is relative... He'd maximize Nash/Gasol/Howard with pnr, likely get a lot out of the frontcourt by emphasizing rebounding, and mediocre defense is better than no defense. Relative to D'Antoni or others, he's a good hire.

[purplengold]

dun matter, looks like Phil gon come back since he meetin wit lakers this morning. foo was like in another state yesterday so he wanna coach again. hope he got energy ta coach dis team again

[Findog]

Kurt "I'm fuckin retarded" Rambis was saying yesterday D'antoni would be a horrible fit but Sloan would be a good fit. Why? Sloan is just like D'antoni....low post scorers are useless in his offense, his teams are always mediocre at defense, the SG is always in a completely complementary role, and his teams always under achieve in the playoffs. It's a given how bad of a candidate D'antoni would be, but Sloan would be just as bad.

I thought his offenses always revolved around a good p'n'r game. Wouldn't a Nash-Howard p'n'r be awesome? The real reason Sloan wouldn't work is because he's old school and screams at his players like they are backup JV guys. He was able to get away with that for so long in Utah because of his tenure and he had the support of Larry Miller. Today's players won't put up with that kind of treatment. I think he's a good coach but there's no way he could coach like that anymore. Management would side with the players over him once he started riding their asses.

[Monostradamus]

Why is D'Antoni a bad hire? The talent on LA is perfect for D'Antoni. He had built a solid team in New York until he was gutted by the Carmelo trade. Carmelo being too selfish to give up his "let me go iso every fucking possession" offense shouldn't be D'Antoni's fault. Management put D'Antoni in a weak position by going over his head with the trade, then giving Carmelo all the power. At that point there was nothing else D'Antoni could do, except bench Carmelo, which would have gotten him fired anyways.

The only problem in LA would be Kobe's love of going iso too, but he's not nearly as reliant on that as Carmelo. Kobe can find his shots within the flow of a real offense too. D'Antoni to the Lakers makes even more sense than Phil coming back.

[Proxy]

I thought his offenses always revolved around a good p'n'r game. Wouldn't a Nash-Howard p'n'r be awesome? The real reason Sloan wouldn't work is because he's old school and screams at his players like they are backup JV guys. He was able to get away with that for so long in Utah because of his tenure and he had the support of Larry Miller. Today's players won't put up with that kind of treatment. I think he's a good coach but there's no way he could coach like that anymore. Management would side with the players over him once he started riding their asses.

It's sad that the league has changed in this direction where players are too proud to be coached.

[Proxy]

Why is D'Antoni a bad hire? The talent on LA is perfect for D'Antoni. He had built a solid team in New York until he was gutted by the Carmelo trade. Carmelo being too selfish to give up his "let me go iso every fucking possession" offense shouldn't be D'Antoni's fault. The only problem in LA would be Kobe's love of going iso too, but he's not nearly as reliant on that as Carmelo. Kobe can find his shots within the flow of a real offense too.

It would be entertaining for sure... and there's enough talent on the Lakers to do what Phoenix never was able to accomplish and get to the finals.

I always viewed D'Antoni's success in PHO as something that should've been largely (mostly) attributed to Nash's skill set. Maybe Carmelo ruined what Mike wanted to do in NYK, but then you could question as to how he would gain the respect of Kobe and Dwight if he couldn't get it from Melo.

[Clipper Nation]

To be fair, with that, it's not just the players... the screaming coaches have been all but phased out at both the college level and the NBA, due to competition from coaches who can motivate and get players to buy in without treating them like shit...

[Monostradamus]

It would be entertaining for sure... and there's enough talent on the Lakers to do what Phoenix never was able to accomplish and get to the finals.

I always viewed D'Antoni's success in PHO as something that should've been largely (mostly) attributed to Nash's skill set. Maybe Carmelo ruined what Mike wanted to do in NYK, but then you could question as to how he would gain the respect of Kobe and Dwight if he couldn't get it from Melo.

I don't think it was a matter of respect with Melo as it was a matter of clashing basketball philosophies, neither guy being willing to bend. Carmelo just signed a huge extension and became the face of the franchise, so obviously he was going to win that battle, and he knew it. He didn't have that leverage with George Karl, plus Karl was willing to bend more to fit Carmelo's style.

[Proxy]

I don't think it was a matter of respect with Melo as it was a matter of clashing basketball philosophies, neither guy being willing to bend. Carmelo just signed a huge extension and became the face of the franchise, so obviously he was going to win that battle, and he knew it. He didn't have that leverage with George Karl, plus Karl was willing to bend more to fit Carmelo's style.

I see what you're saying about the NYK situation. I guess he and Nash possibly coming together again gives him an advantage in getting the Lakers to buy into what he wants to run... not that I see any of them having a problem with running up and down scoring all those points.

[Rick Santorum]

Why is D'Antoni a bad hire? The talent on LA is perfect for D'Antoni. He had built a solid team in New York until he was gutted by the Carmelo trade. Carmelo being too selfish to give up his "let me go iso every fucking possession" offense shouldn't be D'Antoni's fault. Management put D'Antoni in a weak position by going over his head with the trade, then giving Carmelo all the power. At that point there was nothing else D'Antoni could do, except bench Carmelo, which would have gotten him fired anyways.

The only problem in LA would be Kobe's love of going iso too, but he's not nearly as reliant on that as Carmelo. Kobe can find his shots within the flow of a real offense too. D'Antoni to the Lakers makes even more sense than Phil coming back.
Prior to the Melo trade, he built a mediocre 45-50 win team in New York with a ceiling that was a 2nd round playoff appearance. If the Lakers' goal with their current team is to build a "solid team" that at best is gonna win one playoff series, then yeah, D'antoni is their guy.

[Rick Santorum]

I don't consider an nba final a failure, at least when you're never the favourite to begin with
The 1997 and 1998 Jazz would have lost to other Eastern Conference teams too, people have revised history and now pretend the 1997 and 1998 Jazz were a level above every team in the NBA other than the Bulls. The reason they made the finals was because of how weak the West was those 2 years. The Spurs and Lakers hadn't emerged yet while the Suns, Rockets, and Sonics teams that dominated the 90s had all peaked and/or been dismantled.


.. Sloan created an environment of success, somewhere where you don't need to stat pad to be cool
Please. Malone and Stockton are two of the biggest stat whores the NBA has ever seen. Stockton would have open layups that he'd pass out of to inflate his assist total.


and he did not consider playin D as a shame
His teams were always mediocre defensively. It's more revisionist history to pretend his teams were always good at defense. With the exception of a few years, they never were. They were always middle of the pack.

[Rick Santorum]

I thought his offenses always revolved around a good p'n'r game. Wouldn't a Nash-Howard p'n'r be awesome?

It'd be as awesome as the Nash-Amare p'n'r was. It would probably win as many championships too. I'd argue it would be worse since Nash is a shell of his old self and Howard is easier to defend as a p'n'r threat because Amare was a better shooter and had much better hands (before anyone turns this into a strawman argument where I'm saying Amare > Howard, I'm saying Amare > Howard as a p'n'r threat, which he is).

The fact people are suggesting they bring in a coach who will build the offense around Nash pick and rolls is hilarious. He's been irrelevant the last two years, him being able to stay healthy without Phoenix's training staff is a total unknown, his pick and rolls have always required great spacing which the Lakers don't have at all, and he turns 39 in February. Nash inspires more backwards logic and stupidity than any other athlete I've ever seen.

[Raven]

The 1997 and 1998 Jazz would have lost to other Eastern Conference teams too, people have revised history and now pretend the 1997 and 1998 Jazz were a level above every team in the NBA other than the Bulls. The reason they made the finals was because of how weak the West was those 2 years. The Spurs and Lakers hadn't emerged yet while the Suns, Rockets, and Sonics teams that dominated the 90s had all peaked and/or been dismantled.


Please. Malone and Stockton are two of the biggest stat whores the NBA has ever seen. Stockton would have open layups that he'd pass out of to inflate his assist total.


His teams were always mediocre defensively. It's more revisionist history to pretend his teams were always good at defense. With the exception of a few years, they never were. They were always middle of the pack.

a)
so you could basically say that they overachieved..
b)
I won't argue with that, I'm talking about the role players not needing to post a double double per game just to get playing time
c)
Well, that's what I've been sayin, mediocre is far better than shameful.

[Rick Santorum]

a)
so you could basically say that they overachieved..
b)
I won't argue with that, I'm talking about the role players not needing to post a double double per game just to get playing time
c)
Well, that's what I've been sayin, mediocre is far better than shameful.
a)
I'd say they were comparable to the 2007 Cavaliers. Maybe they overachieved, but them running into a team capable of exposing their flaws was inevitable, even if the only teams that could weren't in their conference.
b)
I'm not sure what your point is here at all. Your recycling the, "He knew the game went beyond stats! He's an old school guy!" rhetoric people use with Sloan because there isn't any substance to back up the claim his teams were gritty teams that played well in the half court. His teams were up tempo teams that won games by out shooting the other team.
c)
So you're admitting he was a mediocre coach defensively. Good, glad we're clear on that.

[Koolaid_Man]

I disagree a lot about D'Antoni for LA. I think the upside there is tremendous and to me he should be the coach that is hired.

What do you know...you can't even make legit bets...Phil will inspire and players will look upon him in awe because of his accomplishments..that's 3/4 of the battle....

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I think the number 1 reason goes beyond the Xs and Os. When Sloan lost his allies in the Jazz front office he lost the struggle for the locker room as soon as Deron Williams got unhappy. That was one big star ego in an otherwise lowkey locker room in a small market. He'd be going to a club that just had a similar shift of power to the younger Buss, plus Kobe's megawatt ego, a franchise center that's got at least one coach's blood on his hands, and a market with more cameras than there are Mormons in Utah. It's a bad fit already before you even consider his drill sergeant reputation.

Do they have anyone within the organization that they can go with like Spoelstra? Someone tight with the management. Wouldn't be a ready made guy, but all of those that are available and worth a damn are all guys coming out of situations where their stars chased them out of town. Before they'll buy into a new system the players need to be able to buy into the idea that any new guy won't be just as disposable as Brown.

[DMC]

In the past teams looked for players that fit into their coaching system. Now they look for coaches that fit into their players ego structure.

The NBA is fucked.

[Brazil]

In the past teams looked for players that fit into their coaching system. Now they look for coaches that fit into their players ego structure.

The NBA is fucked.

:lol

[DAF86]

Why is D'Antoni a bad hire? The talent on LA is perfect for D'Antoni. He had built a solid team in New York until he was gutted by the Carmelo trade. Carmelo being too selfish to give up his "let me go iso every fucking possession" offense shouldn't be D'Antoni's fault. Management put D'Antoni in a weak position by going over his head with the trade, then giving Carmelo all the power. At that point there was nothing else D'Antoni could do, except bench Carmelo, which would have gotten him fired anyways.

The only problem in LA would be Kobe's love of going iso too, but he's not nearly as reliant on that as Carmelo. Kobe can find his shots within the flow of a real offense too. D'Antoni to the Lakers makes even more sense than Phil coming back.

lol what?

His players are old and slow as fuck so no up-tempo offense, he has to play Gasol and Dwight so no small-ball, they have no three point shooters.

:lol Mavfans' basketball takes

[DAF86]

I disagree with DUNCANownsKOBE tbh, the talent on LA does fit Sloan's style. Probably the greatest pick and roll PG ever and two elite bigmen to play it with, two hard nosed wings that can cut to the basket and have the strength to bang and take advantage inside, Lakers' lack of three point shooters wouldn't matter 'cause three pointers aren't a crucial part of Sloan's offensive plan.

The problem with Sloan is, as many have said, his way of managing the lockeroom.

With all this said, the right choice without a doubt is Jackson but I don't know if he will take it.

[lefty]

Mike Brown is available

[venky]

LA needs a coach that won't micromanage during the game.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao "The greatest pick and roll PG ever." This isn't 2006. More stupidity and backwards logic inspired by a 38 year old PG who we aren't even sure is getting healthy any time soon.

[DAF86]

:lmao "The greatest pick and roll PG ever." This isn't 2006. More stupidity and backwards logic inspired by a 38 year old PG who we aren't even sure is getting healthy any time soon.

He's still on of the best at that, tbh. And if he doesn't heal it won't matter who becomes the coach. LA needs Nash to play at a high level for them to be contenders. He's the main difference between last year's team and this one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He's still on of the best at that, tbh.

How many teams have won a championship running the offense through their "great pick and roll" PG? It doesn't matter if he's still one of the best at it, unless the NBA changed its rules recently and instead of the playoffs they have a competition where each team's PG demonstrates his ability to run the pick and roll and the team with the best PG wins. Did that happen, I'm not sure tbh. The way everyone thinks the Lakers should run their offense through Nash when Nash has been injured since game 1, that must be it.

The reason he's stayed good at running pick and rolls is because he's done it in small ball lineups that have great spacing and create gimmicky mismatches. Remember how good he was at running pick and rolls when it was 2009 and he was playing with a C who clogs the lane? That's more of what it would be like, only he's a lot worse now than he was then. It would be extremely stupid to run the offense through an brittle boned PG who turns 39 in February who couldn't win a title in his prime when you have Howard, Gasol, and Kobe. There is so much stupidity involving Steve Nash posted on this forum and the entire internet I'm almost convinced its a world wide attempt to troll me.

[DAF86]

Nobody said that the offense should be run through him. In fact I don't think the offense should be run through anybody in particular on the Lakers. Nash, Gasol, Dwight and Kobe should all share playmaking responsibilites equally. Kinda like the Spurs have done over the years with Tony, Manu and Tim.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You said Jerry Sloan would be a good fit. Jerry Sloan has always built his offense around the PG. Nash is the PG. You can figure the rest out on your own.

[DAF86]

You said Jerry Sloan would be a good fit. Jerry Sloan has always built his offense around the PG. Nash is the PG. You can figure the rest out on your own.

That's because he has always had world class PGs. If he would have had Lebron do you think he would have built his offense around the PG?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's because he has always had world class PG. If he would have had Lebron do you think he would have built his offense around the PG?

You've been sucking Nash's dick as the best PNR PG in the NBA in this thread, so Sloan would still have a world class PG according to your logic. Now your saying he isn't a world class PG? Pick a lane.

And I'm not sure what he'd do if he had Lebron. If winning a championship with a coach is contingent on the 60-some year old coach reinventing himself and completely changing up his system from how its been his entire 20 year career, that's not a chance any sane human being would want to take.

[DAF86]

You've been sucking Nash's dick as the best PNR PG in the NBA in this thread, so Sloan would still have a world class PG according to your logic. Now your saying he isn't a world class PG? Pick a lane.

Saying the he's probably the best pnr PG ever doesn't necesarilly mean that I think that he's still World class.


And I'm not sure what he'd do if he had Lebron. If winning a championship with a coach is contingent on the 60-some year old coach reinventing himself and completely changing up his system from how its been his entire 20 year career, that's not a chance any sane human being would want to take.

He doesn't need to change his system tbh, he can make subtle changes or even have the same exact offensive schemes but with the SF or SG running the pnr instead of the PG, for example.

You're not being honest when you say that you don't know what he would do if he had Lebron. He would do what any coach in the World, adapt his system to the talent he has.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Saying the he's probably the best pnr PG ever doesn't necesarilly mean that I think that he's still World class.
So then why would you say he's the best PNR PG ever when you're now admitting he's no longer world class? Are you admitting it was retarded and intellectually dishonest to ever dwell in the past and act like it's 2006?


He doesn't need to change his system tbh, he can make subtle changes or even have the same exact offensive schemes but with the SF or SG running the pnr instead of the PG, for example.
OK, so now Sloan would be a good fit because he could run the PNR with his SG and SF. Originally it was because he had the best PNR PG in the history of the universe and two hard nosed wings who can cut to the basket. My how your reasons keep changing.


You're not being honest when you say that you don't know what he would do if he had Lebron. He would do what any coach in the World, adapt his system to the talent he has.
His ability to adapt to talent and change his system being completely unproven since he's ran the exact same offense that has been PG-oriented his entire career. It's intellectually dishonest to pretend a 60-something year old coach can adapt to a team structured completely different from the teams he's always coached as quickly and easily as the snap of your fingers.

[ezau]

Why are we talking about a team that's just a few wins better than the Bobcats? Lakers are lucky to reach the playoffs this year.

[The TroutBum]

Look at all the faggots that are butt hurt that the Jazz owned their anus over the years saying that Sloan wouldn't work in LA. Comical.


Fuck the Laker's and it would be a sad day to see Jerry take over, but just like I did with Benedict Malone, I'd shove 30 years of fandom down the shitter and hope he dies in a plane crash.

[Raven]

a)
I'd say they were comparable to the 2007 Cavaliers. Maybe they overachieved, but them running into a team capable of exposing their flaws was inevitable, even if the only teams that could weren't in their conference.
b)
I'm not sure what your point is here at all. Your recycling the, "He knew the game went beyond stats! He's an old school guy!" rhetoric people use with Sloan because there isn't any substance to back up the claim his teams were gritty teams that played well in the half court. His teams were up tempo teams that won games by out shooting the other team.
c)
So you're admitting he was a mediocre coach defensively. Good, glad we're clear on that.

I was commenting the similarities between sloan and d'antoni, so you need to put that into contest..

[Pelicans78]

This Lakers team isn't gonna beat the Heat no matter who is coaching. Kobe and Gasol are too old to carry the load and Howard isn't good enough offensively to do it. LOL at thinking Nash is the answer. He's no CP3 and even if he was, it still wouldn't be enough.

[Monostradamus]

His players are old

LOL Dwight Howard is old? He's 26, but yeah, he's "old".

manufans' basketball takes :lol

[DAF86]

LOL Dwight Howard is old? He's 26, but yeah, he's "old".

manufans' basketball takes :lol

Ok, let's ignore all the other componets of the starting line-up and their two most important bench players. :lol

[pass1st]

Ok, let's ignore all the other componets of the starting line-up and their two most important bench players. :lol

Tbh, Hill is our most important bench player and he's young.

[DAF86]

Tbh, Hill is our most important bench player and he's young.

I expect D'antoni to play Jamison as the main(/probably only) big off the bench.

[pass1st]

I expect D'antoni to play Jamison as the main/probably only big off the bench.

I'd hope he realizes Hill is actually a good player

[DAF86]

Tbh, Hill is our most important bench player and he's young.


I expect D'antoni to play Jamison as the main(/probably only) big off the bench.

Jordan Hill - DNP coac's decision http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400277964

P/S: Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb and reaffirm that Sloan would have been a better fit than D'antoni. Dude doesn't know what the fuck to do with Pau.

[ElNono]

Sloan would've never accepted to coach the Lakeshow anyways because he wouldn't have the authority he needs to bench certain 'stars' in certain games...

That's why it was either D'Antoni or Dunleavy...

[DAF86]

Why is D'Antoni a bad hire? The talent on LA is perfect for D'Antoni. He had built a solid team in New York until he was gutted by the Carmelo trade. Carmelo being too selfish to give up his "let me go iso every fucking possession" offense shouldn't be D'Antoni's fault. Management put D'Antoni in a weak position by going over his head with the trade, then giving Carmelo all the power. At that point there was nothing else D'Antoni could do, except bench Carmelo, which would have gotten him fired anyways.

The only problem in LA would be Kobe's love of going iso too, but he's not nearly as reliant on that as Carmelo. Kobe can find his shots within the flow of a real offense too. D'Antoni to the Lakers makes even more sense than Phil coming back.

Mavkrew member with the awful BB take per par.

[lefty]

haha solid bump



Yeah right Mike D was the right choice :lol

[DAF86]

I thought they would at least dare to show their faces around here. :lol

lol "the talent on LA is perfect for D'Antoni"

[DPG21920]

Give it time.

[TheRealCB]

Just stating an opinion here: Yeah,calling out your teammates and coach isn't the best thing you can do.But when you are Pau and you're benched,while watching your 20 million dollar center go 9-21 from the line and lose the game,how long can you stay quiet?

[DAF86]

Give it time.

Yeah, I know the Lakers will be good, they will have a winning streak here and there but to me it's pretty obvious that with a coach like Sloan they would be better and that the talent in LA isn't perfect for D'antoni at all.

[Monostradamus]

Mavkrew member with the awful BB take per par.

Manufan premature ejaculation, per par etc. D'Antoni doesn't have a PG to run his system yet. It's going to take time.

I'll ELE bet you the Lakers go to the NBA Finals.

[Monostradamus]

and Pau's skill set is great for D'Antoni's offense. tbh I just overestimated what a gaping vagina that guy really is.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

D'antoni being a bad fit (and the OP doesn't say anything to the contrary) doesn't somehow make it so Sloan would be a good fit. How D'antoni has done is pretty irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

[DAF86]

Manufan premature ejaculation, per par etc. D'Antoni doesn't have a PG to run his system yet. It's going to take time.

I'll ELE bet you the Lakers go to the NBA Finals.

They may get to the NBA finals, like I said the Lakers are just too talented not to be a good team, but that won't mean that the talent in LA is perfect for D'antoni (in fact when they become good I'm pretty sure it won't be becuase of the SSOL system, it will be because of finally learning how to play toghether and improved defense) it will mean that they were just too talented and got it toghether at the right time, thing that could have happened with any coach.

With that said: sure, I would play. 'Cause even though I expect them to be good and it wouldn't shock me to see them in the NBA finals I see other teams with better chances of getting there.

A few questions though:

-The ELE bets are those where the loser can't post here for X amount of time right?
-What if a trade happens?

[monosylab1k]

:lol backtracking "i never said they wouldn't be good with D'Antoni :cry"

Did you think they could make the Finals with Mike Brown?

As far as the ELE, loser is out for 6 months.

[DAF86]

:lol backtracking "i never said they wouldn't be good with D'Antoni :cry"

Did you think they could make the Finals with Mike Brown?

As far as the ELE, loser is out for 6 months.

I expected them to be good with any coach. What I found funny was the thought of D'antoni being a better fit for this Lakers team than Phil Jackson or Sloan.

Ok, I'm in. What if a trade happens though?

[DAF86]

One more thing: Are all of your trolls included on the bet?

[DAF86]

If anyone sees monosylab1k tell him that I'm looking for him.

[FYM]

One more thing: Are all of your trolls included on the bet?

sup DAF86 still in the Messi cock sucking business ?

[Leetonidas]

Steve Nash has always been massively overrated imo, Tony Parker routinely took his ass to the woodshed in years past and people really think he's LA's savior? :lmao That team in LA has talent but is horribly constructed. At least the big three in Miami can play with each other no problem.

[DAF86]

sup DAF86 still in the Messi cock sucking business ?

Sup FYM, Still in the irrelevant thread making business?

[FYM]

Sup FYM (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36240), Still in the irrelevant thread making business?

:tu good business right there

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Ok, I'm in. What if a trade happens though?

Either you're in or not. Why do you keep looking for qualifiers to get out of it?

[DAF86]

Either you're in or not. Why do you keep looking for qualifiers to get out of it?

If they trade Gasol for some shooting and athleticism I think it's fair to say that the talent in LA wasn't perfect for D'antoni.

[monosylab1k]

lol scared to take the bet

[Jodelo]

sup DAF86 still in the Messi cock sucking business ?

:lmao

[DAF86]

lol scared to take the bet

OK I'll take it either way 'cause everybody will know that if they trade Gasol and make it to the finals you won't be right, tbh.

Are all of your trolls included in the bet?

[monosylab1k]

OK I'll take it either way 'cause everybody will know that if they trade Gasol and make it to the finals you won't be right, tbh.

Are all of your trolls included in the bet?

Yes all trolls are included.

[DAF86]

Ok, I'm in.