Rand Paul has gone essentially rogue in the Senate

[Galileo]

"Rand Paul has gone essentially rogue in the Senate and does things no other Senator would dream of. He is just as likely to piss off John McCain as Barbara Boxer. Many times he acts alone to object to bills set to pass under suspension, so that there is debate and roll calls. He filibusters, tacks on crazy amendments to stall statist legislation and induce debate, excoriates statist agency people in Senate hearings, rails against foreign aid, the patriot act, the TSA, overreach by the EPA, aggression without a congressional declaration of war, writes anti-state books, proposes budgets that balance in 3 years, votes against debt ceiling increases, warrantless searches and wiretaps, quotes novels and famous philosophers, makes frequent references to specific sections of the constitution, has said ALL regulations should sunset regularly and then have to be justified in order to be reinstated, has said on national T.V. that he feels he should return his salary to the taxpayers since the Senate does so little work and with no debate, he introduces bills for no reason other than to underscore hypocrisy, and last but not least, he claims to eat lots of sushi. He is just one guy and can't do it all alone. But looking at him work, you almost wouldn't know it. He has evolved into a top notch speaker, thinks well on his feet, and can dumb down the message for the lower information voter when necessary."

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?395355-Havent-been-on-in-a-bit.-So-are-we-going-Rand-Paul-2016&p=4729005&viewfull=1#post4729005

[DMC]

Wow who would have thought Ronpaulforums would say good things about Ron Paul Jr? So he's basically worthless and an annoyance like his pa. Apple, tree etc...

[Clipper Nation]

Wow who would have thought Ronpaulforums would say good things about Ron Paul Jr? So he's basically worthless and an annoyance like his pa. Apple, tree etc...
:cry Principles and liberty are annoying :cry

[ElNono]

Didn't this guy sold out to Romney in like a millisecond?

[Clipper Nation]

Didn't this guy sold out to Romney in like a millisecond?
Yeah, Rand is hardly a chip off the old block... Ron has had foresight, a backbone, and the balls to call the DC establishment out on their obvious bullshit...

[Bartleby]

"has said on national T.V. that he feels he should return his salary to the taxpayers since the Senate does so little work "



Did he actually return his salary or just talk about doing it?

[Galileo]

Did he actually return his salary or just talk about doing it?

He returned $600,000 of his senate budget. This is similar to what Ron Paul does, but Ron returns less money than this.

[Galileo]

Yeah, Rand is hardly a chip off the old block... Ron has had foresight, a backbone, and the balls to call the DC establishment out on their obvious bullshit...

Rand is a lot better than Ron when it comes to challenging the establishment. For example, Rand filibustered the Patriot Act for 3 days. Ron has never done that.

[Galileo]

Didn't this guy sold out to Romney in like a millisecond?

No, Rand promised to support the eventually GOP nominee from the beginning. Ron Paul supporters failed to get Ron the nomination.

[boutons_deux]

Rand Paul has already taken all kinds of Repug funds. Nothing special about this guy, just another Confederate Senator.

He's a Kock-sucker and owned by the financial sector:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00030836

yawn. yeah, a real iconoclast, a radical wanting the best for his KY, American people! :lol

[symple19]

Sure hope he runs (for pres) in 2016. Was glad to vote for him when I lived in Kentucky

If nothing else, the guy is a contrarian, which is badly needed in the halls of government amongst the yes men/women and egomaniacs.

Big ups

[boutons_deux]

Randian Paul will accomplish nothing at all, just like his effete, useless father.

[Clipper Nation]

Rand is a lot better than Ron when it comes to challenging the establishment.
:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

He returned $600,000 of his senate budget. This is similar to what Ron Paul does, but Ron returns less money than this.So Rand didn't return his salary.

What is his health insurance like?

[Expert]

Both Ron and Rand Paul are completely worthless for anything except spoilers for the GOP. Nader had to have a successor on the other side of the fence.

[Galileo]

Rand Paul is already the 2016 frontrunner.

[Galileo]

So Rand didn't return his salary.

What is his health insurance like?

Rand Paul is not an anarchist. If you are an anarchist then you are an idiot.

[Galileo]

:lmao

Rand Paul filibustered the Patriot Act for three days. Ron Paul never filibustered the Patriot Act. Rand is taking what Ron started, and moving it forward by a large leap.

[ElNono]

No, Rand promised to support the eventually GOP nominee from the beginning. Ron Paul supporters failed to get Ron the nomination.

So he sold out from the get go... impressive.

[ChumpDumper]

Rand Paul is already the 2016 frontrunner.No, he isn't. Rubio is.

Rand is a sellout.

[Galileo]

No, he isn't. Rubio is.

Rand is a sellout.

Rubio is too inexperienced and has no organization, nor has he been vetted.

[Galileo]

So he sold out from the get go... impressive.

No, Rand did not sell out. You didn't do enough to get Ron Paul the GOP nomination.

[ChumpDumper]

Rubio is too inexperienced and has no organization, nor has he been vetted.But he's the frontrunner. No one really knows who Rand is.

[ChumpDumper]

No, Rand did not sell out. You didn't do enough to get Ron Paul the GOP nomination.You didn't do enough.

[Galileo]

You didn't do enough.

I'm not complaining about the endorsement. I think Rand was right to endorse Ron in the primary and Romney in the general.

[Galileo]

But he's the frontrunner. No one really knows who Rand is.

Few know who Rubio is, but Rand has nationwide name recognition.

[ElNono]

No, Rand did not sell out. You didn't do enough to get Ron Paul the GOP nomination.

Sure he did. He put party over principle. That's selling out.

[ChumpDumper]

Few know who Rubio is, but Rand has nationwide name recognition.Yeah, Rubio is leading the nationwide polls for 2016. He's known.

[DMC]

Galileo Galileo Galileo Galileo

[Galileo]

Sure he did. He put party over principle. That's selling out.

No, the principle is to support the best candidate in the primary, and then your party in the general election. If Rand did not support Romney, it would be viewed by the public as support of Obama. You might be stupid, but Rand Paul is not.

[Galileo]

Yeah, Rubio is leading the nationwide polls for 2016. He's known.

Rubio is not even eligible to run for president, he was born a Cuban citizen. He still may be an illegal alien.

[ChumpDumper]

No, the principle is to support the best candidate in the primary, and then your party in the general election. If Rand did not support Romney, it would be viewed by the public as support of Obama. You might be stupid, but Rand Paul is not.So Ron Paul supported Obama.

OK.

[ChumpDumper]

Rubio is not even eligible to run for president, he was born a Cuban citizen. He still may be an illegal alien.He was born in Miami.

Why do you have to lie?

[ElNono]

No, the principle is to support the best candidate in the primary, and then your party in the general election. If Rand did not support Romney, it would be viewed by the public as support of Obama. You might be stupid, but Rand Paul is not.

Another terrible take. Rand doesn't have to endorse anybody.

But since he did endorse Mitt from the get go, he's for more wars, more spending and tax cuts for the rich. Sounds like your average GOP representative.

lol rogue

[DMC]

btw the thread title made me think Rank Paul was hating on the Chinese by the "rogue" comment.

[Galileo]

So Ron Paul supported Obama.

OK.

That's why Ron lost the GOP nomination, he endorsed Chuck Baldwin. Rand will not make the same mistake twice.

[Galileo]

He was born in Miami.

Why do you have to lie?

His parents were citizens of Cuba, making Rubio a natural born Cuban citizen, he became a naturalized citizen a few years later.

[Wild Cobra]

His parents were citizens of Cuba, making Rubio a natural born Cuban citizen, he became a naturalized citizen a few years later.
If he was born in Miami, he can be president. Period.

[Jacob1983]

McCain was technically born in Panama. *

[Galileo]

If he was born in Miami, he can be president. Period.

No, the Constitution says you must be subject to US jurisdiction when born. But Rubio was subject to Cuban jurisdiction since his parents were both illegal aliens. Rubio also spun a tall tale about his past, he said his parents fleed Castro, when they actually fleed Batisita. Rubio cannot be trusted.

[Galileo]

McCain was technically born in Panama. *

Bob Barr was born in Iran. George Romney was born in Mexico.

[Jacob1983]

Well, McCain was able to run for president because at the time of his birth, he was born at a United States military base in Panama. If it's a US military base, it's technically American soil.

[Wild Cobra]

No, the Constitution says you must be subject to US jurisdiction when born. But Rubio was subject to Cuban jurisdiction since his parents were both illegal aliens. Rubio also spun a tall tale about his past, he said his parents fleed Castro, when they actually fleed Batisita. Rubio cannot be trusted.
I wish that was the interpretation, but it has not been.

Ever hear of "Anchor Babies?"

[ChumpDumper]

That's why Ron lost the GOP nomination, he endorsed Chuck Baldwin. Rand will not make the same mistake twice.Yes, Rand sold out.


His parents were citizens of Cuba, making Rubio a natural born Cuban citizen, he became a naturalized citizen a few years later.You'll have to provide a link to his naturalization. Otherwise, it's complete crap you just made up.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Rubio is not even eligible to run for president, he was born a Cuban citizen. He still may be an illegal alien.

In addition to being a student of liberty, I can see you're also a student of racism.

[Galileo]

In addition to being a student of liberty, I can see you're also a student of racism.

No, Ron Paul is trying to end the racist war upon drugs. You evidently support the racist war upon drugs. Lock up them black people! You are not just a student of racism, you are a practicing racist.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No, Ron Paul is trying to end the racist war upon drugs. You evidently support the racist war upon drugs. Lock up them black people! You are not just a student of racism, you are a practicing racist.

I have said I don't know how many times on this site how much I am against the war on drugs. I'm also a huge fan of Ron Paul because whether or not I agree with him, he always sticks to his beliefs and puts what he thinks is best for the country over politics or anything else. Rand Paul on the other hand would be absolutely nothing without his dad and is a sell out.

You're also a racist for calling Rubio a non-citizen just because he's Cuban.

[symple19]

Paul plans to inject himself into the middle of the GOP’s emotional immigration debate in the wake of Romney losing swing states with heavy Latino populations like Florida, Colorado and Nevada. Paul is working on a novel plan that he says would “assimilate” many of the 12 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. Those individuals, he said, could apply for legal status, but immigration would then be clamped down in the interim. He also says his plan would toughen security at the border.
“I want to show what conservatives would or can accept,” he said in describing his plan. “If we assimilate those who are here, however they got here — don’t make it an easy path for citizenship. There would be an eventual path, but we don’t make anybody tomorrow a citizen who came here illegally. But if they’re willing to work, willing to pay taxes, I think we need to normalize those who are here.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83737_Page2.html#ixzz2CVmbXn9K

[Galileo]

I have said I don't know how many times on this site how much I am against the war on drugs. I'm also a huge fan of Ron Paul because whether or not I agree with him, he always sticks to his beliefs and puts what he thinks is best for the country over politics or anything else. Rand Paul on the other hand would be absolutely nothing without his dad and is a sell out.

You're also a racist for calling Rubio a non-citizen just because he's Cuban.

Rubio is a neocon racist who hates Arabs.

[Galileo]

You'll have to provide a link to his naturalization. Otherwise, it's complete crap you just made up.

If he does does have his papers, then he is still an illegal alien and should be deported.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Rubio is a neocon racist who hates Arabs.
I agree with all of that. I can't stand Rubio, but he's a US citizen eligible to run for president, and him being an asshole doesn't change the fact it's racist to think he's an illegal Cuban alien.

[Galileo]

I agree with all of that. I can't stand Rubio, but he's a US citizen eligible to run for president, and him being an asshole doesn't change the fact it's racist to think he's an illegal Cuban alien.

Its funny how the same people who said Obama was not a citizen are now insisting that Rubio is a citizen.

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Its funny how the same people who said Obama was not a citizen are now insisting that Rubio is a citizen.

:lmao

You're really throwing darts with your eyes closed now. I've made fun of the Obama birthers as much as anybody. I'll make it this simple:

Anyone who thinks Obama isn't a citizen and was born in Kenya is a racist.

Anyone who thinks Rubio isn't a citizen and was born in Cuba is a racist.

[ChumpDumper]

If he does does have his papers, then he is still an illegal alien and should be deported.He doesn't have any naturalization papers because he was born in Miami.

He's a natural born citizen and all your disbelief of the Constitution won't change that.

[Galileo]

You're really throwing darts with your eyes closed now. I've made fun of the Obama birthers as much as anybody. I'll make it this simple:

Anyone who thinks Obama isn't a citizen and was born in Kenya is a racist.

Anyone who thinks Rubio isn't a citizen and was born in Cuba is a racist.

Actually, both Obama and Rubio support the racist war upon drugs. So those that support Obama and Rubio are racists, those that oppose them are anti-racists.

[Galileo]

Marco Rubio Is NOT Eligible To Be President or VP
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?395434-Marco-Rubio-Is-NOT-Eligible-To-Be-President-or-VP

[ChumpDumper]

Marco Rubio Is NOT Eligible To Be President or VP
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?395434-Marco-Rubio-Is-NOT-Eligible-To-Be-President-or-VP
There's no such thing as a native-born citizen according to the Constitution. There's natural born (as in - was a citizen when born) and naturalized (As in, became a citizen by being granted the status by a court.)

And there's also no legal precedent for your definition that I'm aware of, while my definition has hundreds of years of American and English common law. Rubio was born here, he's eligible.

Sorry JFK, but even though I realize this won't change anybody's mind, this isn't Ron Paul's position on the issue, and honestly, makes us look like nutjobs. :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Actually, both Obama and Rubio support the racist war upon drugs. So those that support Obama and Rubio are racists, those that oppose them are anti-racists.
I agree the war on drugs is racist and targets black people, but the average war on drugs supporter more naive and gullible than racist. Calling people racist for supporting the war on drugs will only make them defensive.

You'd have a lot more credibility going solely after Rubio's beliefs instead of drumming conspiracies about where he was born.

[Galileo]

I agree the war on drugs is racist and targets black people, but the average war on drugs supporter more naive and gullible than racist. Calling people racist for supporting the war on drugs will only make them defensive.

You'd have a lot more credibility going solely after Rubio's beliefs instead of drumming conspiracies about where he was born.

It has become fashionable to call everyone a racist.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It has become fashionable to call everyone a racist.

Someone who thinks a Cuban-American is actually a Cuban citizen illegally in America sounds like a racist to me.

[ChumpDumper]

It has become fashionable to call everyone a racist.It has become fashionable for those who call themselves constitutionalists to ignore the Constitution.

[Galileo]

Someone who thinks a Cuban-American is actually a Cuban citizen illegally in America sounds like a racist to me.

Great. See. You are in on the fashion. Everyone is a racist. Obama made it popular. Thank you.