NBA: Who would you select as your young PG? [Archive]

Raven

11-13-2012, 09:02 AM

Wall if he wasn't that injury prone, the other all suck (and tbh Wall does too), in one way or another. Really i would be confortable with Gogi Dragič.

Raven

11-13-2012, 09:02 AM

Just curious why noone thinks Brandon Jennings is that good. I think he is pretty damned good.

just a ballhog like all the others in the list.

TDMVPDPOY

11-13-2012, 09:26 AM

wall seems like a draft busts

purplengold

11-13-2012, 09:57 AM

Irving the truth, maybe Bledsoe after him. Lillard just overrated n fall apart against good D

lefty

11-13-2012, 10:17 AM

Irving TBH, no brainer

Raven

11-13-2012, 10:21 AM

wall seems like a draft busts

well it is safe to say he is... Still, if you're rebuilding, you'de rather wait for a very quick pass first pg than a ball hog that will always be a ball hog.. Irving, Holiday or, god forbid, Walker will never be pass first pg.

Pelicans78

11-13-2012, 10:33 AM

Irving and then Jennings and no one else on the list. Jennings is better this season, especially defensively.

Jodelo

11-13-2012, 10:44 AM

Holiday.

TheRealCB

11-13-2012, 10:48 AM

Irving is seriously challenging Rondo for best PG in the east and you guys bother comparing him to scrubs like Jennings and Holiday?? :lmao

kamikazi_player

11-13-2012, 12:42 PM

Jeremy Lin

lebomb

11-13-2012, 01:09 PM

Jennings leads the league in steals and is in the top 5-6 in Assists......while avg. about 17-18pts a game.

whitemamba

11-13-2012, 01:19 PM

darius morris

JoeTait75

11-13-2012, 01:47 PM

Irving is seriously challenging Rondo for best PG in the east and you guys bother comparing him to scrubs like Jennings and Holiday?? :lmao

I obviously like Irving a lot, but right now he is a turnstile defensively. Dragic just abused him the other night in Phoenix.

Raven

11-13-2012, 02:49 PM

i don't see Rubio in the list, injured of course, and the offensive game is horrible but really a great point guard, should be top 3 in assists every year and also defends well.

elemento

11-13-2012, 04:01 PM

Irving easily

Clipper Nation

11-13-2012, 04:39 PM

Eric Bledsoe

tlongII

11-13-2012, 05:13 PM

Lillard. He's easily the best out of that group.

dirk4mvp

11-13-2012, 05:27 PM

Irving by a mile.

pass1st

11-13-2012, 05:36 PM

Lillard. He's easily the best out of that group.

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GP
MPG
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PM-3PA
3P%
FTM-FTA
FT%
RPG
APG
BLKPG
STLPG
PFPG
TOPG
PPG

2012-13 Regular Season
7
34.7
8.3-17.6
.472
2.0-4.4
.452
4.3-5.6
.769
4.1
6.3
0.3
0.9
3.0
4.1
22.9

LkrFan

11-13-2012, 08:47 PM

Irving TBH, no brainer

Latarian Milton

11-13-2012, 08:48 PM

lin will earn more all-star caps in the next 5 years than all them guys combined though

Pelicans78

11-13-2012, 10:06 PM

Jennings is better right now.

tlongII

11-14-2012, 12:57 AM

Lillard with 22 and 9 while going 5/6 from three tonight.

dirk4mvp

11-14-2012, 01:45 AM

Jennings is better right now.

His FG% and 3P% is still dogshit.

Malik Hairston

11-14-2012, 02:15 AM

1. Irving
2. Jennings
3. Holiday
4. Lillard
5. Wall
6. Walker

Mouth is Bleeding

11-14-2012, 03:03 AM

Easy

1. Irving
2. Lillard
3. Huertas

noob cake

11-14-2012, 03:27 AM

Irving is worth more than any two PG below him.

At this point, I wouldn't trade Irving for anyone other than Bron, Durant, CP or Brow.

TheRealCB

11-14-2012, 05:05 AM

Irving is worth more than any two PG below him.

At this point, I wouldn't trade Irving for anyone other than Bron, Durant, CP or Brow.
:lol Brow
:lol You wouldn't trade him for Howard/Love

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 08:55 AM

His FG% and 3P% is still dogshit.

True. Irving is shooting much better. Both are similar in their assists and turnovers rate. Jennings has been much better defensively.

I would easily take Brow over Irving. No debate and not because he's for the Hornets. He brings way more to the table and has way more upside.

lebomb

11-14-2012, 09:20 AM

Jennings last game against Philly.......... 33pts on 57% shooting, 5-5 FT, 4-9 3pt, 8 asst.

Damn!

TheRealCB

11-14-2012, 10:16 AM

True. Irving is shooting much better. Both are similar in their assists and turnovers rate. Jennings has been much better defensively.

I would easily take Brow over Irving. No debate and not because he's for the Hornets. He brings way more to the table and has way more upside.

:lolGlorified Marcus Camby over Irving

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 11:01 AM

:lolGlorified Marcus Camby over Irving

You're fucking stupid if you think Davis is a glorified Marcus Camby. Way more skills offensively at a young age and more potential defensively. He has way more potential than Irving. Irving is a fucking PG. Davis is a big man with so much upside and he's already averaging 17 pts, 8 boards, and 3 blocks per game while shooting 53% from the field and 78% from the line and he's still 19. He's probably as good as Irving now and has way more potential.

TheRealCB

11-14-2012, 11:54 AM

You're fucking stupid if you think Davis is a glorified Marcus Camby. Way more skills offensively at a young age and more potential defensively. He has way more potential than Irving. Irving is a fucking PG. Davis is a big man with so much upside and he's already averaging 17 pts, 8 boards, and 3 blocks per game while shooting 53% from the field and 78% from the line and he's still 19. He's probably as good as Irving now and has way more potential.

How many of that 17 points are spoon fed?

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 12:04 PM

How many of that 17 points are spoon fed?

It's not like he's getting good guard play. His % of points off assists aren't any higher than most frontcourt players Hornets may have the worst starting backcourt in the league. Yet he's showed a good touch in the paint with his hook shot and he's hitting perimeter jumpers plus getting to the line talking guys off the dribble. If he had decent guard play, he could be averaging over 20 a game. Let's not even talk about defense where he has way more impact than Irving who's below average as a defender. Most people would easily take a talented big man over a talented PG. Its not like Irving is CP3.

TheRealCB

11-14-2012, 12:11 PM

It's not like he's getting good guard play. His % of points off assists aren't any higher than most frontcourt players Hornets may have the worst starting backcourt in the league. Yet he's showed a good touch in the paint with his hook shot and he's hitting perimeter jumpers plus getting to the line talking guys off the dribble. If he had decent guard play, he could be averaging over 20 a game. Let's not even talk about defense where he has way more impact than Irving who's below average as a defender. Most people would easily take a talented big man over a talented PG. Its not like Irving is CP3.

He was better last year than CP3 was on his first year. But anyway,I don't think Davis ever reaches his so-called potential,I've called him a bust and maybe that makes me biased.

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 12:29 PM

He was better last year than CP3 was on his first year. But anyway,I don't think Davis ever reaches his so-called potential,I've called him a bust and maybe that makes me biased.

He wasn't really better than CP3. He averaged more PPG and shot a higher percentage from the field, but CP3 had a higher assist rate, lower turnover rate and pretty much shat on him in every other statistic and was better defensively. Also, CP3 led his team to a 20 game improvement in his rookie season without much help outside of David West. But to be honest, I would take a healthy Davis long-term over CP3.

Clipper Nation

11-14-2012, 12:43 PM

But to be honest, I would take a healthy Davis long-term over CP3.
:lmao

Early-prime, pre-knee-injury CP3 was putting up some of the greatest seasons for any point guard in history and was royally screwed out of an MVP... current CP3 is one of the smartest, most cerebral players in the league and elevates his teammates... you're crazy if you take Brow over that....

TheRealCB

11-14-2012, 01:55 PM

He wasn't really better than CP3. He averaged more PPG and shot a higher percentage from the field, but CP3 had a higher assist rate, lower turnover rate and pretty much shat on him in every other statistic and was better defensively. Also, CP3 led his team to a 20 game improvement in his rookie season without much help outside of David West. But to be honest, I would take a healthy Davis long-term over CP3.

Fuck me for trying to reason with you.

kamikazi_player

11-14-2012, 02:31 PM

AaronY

11-14-2012, 02:45 PM

Irving is the worst defender in the NBA right now according to most advanced defensive metrics

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 03:05 PM

:lmao

Early-prime, pre-knee-injury CP3 was putting up some of the greatest seasons for any point guard in history and was royally screwed out of an MVP... current CP3 is one of the smartest, most cerebral players in the league and elevates his teammates... you're crazy if you take Brow over that....

PGs don't win championships. You'll find out the hard way. Davis has more potential especially on the defensive end and skills offensively as well. He needs to get a little stronger but he's only 19 and he will mature physically. Davis will be able to control the paint on both ends of the floor. That's something a PG won't ever be able to do.

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 03:06 PM

Fuck me for trying to reason with you.

Because you can't. Most of your arguments were stupid.

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 03:09 PM

:lol just a butthurt Hornet/Pelican/Spirit fan trying to believe that getting rid of CP3 was good for their shitty franchise.

I never said it was good you dumbfuck. Hornets had no choice. They just got lucky when they won the lottery and ending up with Davis. They weren't going anywhere with CP3 anyway except to a lower seeded playoff team.

Pelicans78

11-14-2012, 03:10 PM

Irving is the worst defender in the NBA right now according to most advanced defensive metrics

He's a terrible defender. He is a very good scorer for a PG. But he's no CP3 and definitely isn't a game changer.

Clipper Nation

11-14-2012, 07:20 PM

PGs don't win championships.

Luckily, our PG isn't our only star/leader... next! :lol

pass1st

11-14-2012, 07:31 PM

Luckily, our PG isn't our only star/leader... next! :lol

:lol Next 3 best players are Monkeyball, PG Billups , streaky SG Crawford. Only 1 of those can be considered a leader