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RandomGuy
11-13-2012, 01:24 PM
Here it comes. YAY AMNESTY!!! I think it is a good thing.

(give me a minute to get some popcorn before responding...)


WASHINGTON (AP) — Two senators on opposite sides of the aisle are proposing comprehensive changes to the immigration laws that would include a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants now in the United States.

Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York and Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who promoted similar proposals on separate Sunday news shows said that no path to citizenship would be available until the country's borders were secure.

Only then could those in the U.S. without authorization "come out of the shadows, get biometrically identified, start paying taxes, pay a fine for the law they broke," Graham told CBS' "Face the Nation." ''They can't stay unless they learn our language, and they have to get in the back of line before they become citizens. They can't cut in front of the line regarding people who are doing it right and it can take over a decade to get their green card." A green card grants permanent residency status — a step toward citizenship.

Schumer told NBC's "Meet the Press" that he and Graham have resumed talks on immigration policy that broke off two years ago and "have put together a comprehensive detailed blueprint on immigration reform" that has "the real potential for bipartisan support based on the theory that most Americans are for legal immigration, but very much against illegal immigration."

Graham, however, made no mention of working with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, refugees and border security.

Immigration policy, largely ignored during President Barack Obama's first four years in office, has re-emerged as a major issue as Republicans seek ways to rebound from their election performance. More than 70 percent of Hispanic voters supported Obama, who has been more open than Republicans to comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws.

Three days after Tuesday's election, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said it was time to address immigration policy. He urged Obama to take the lead in coming up with a plan that would look at both improved enforcement of immigration law and the future of the estimated 11 million people living in the country illegally. Boehner, however, did not commit to the citizenship issue.

Graham said that the "tone and rhetoric" Republicans used in the immigration debate of 2006 and 2007 "has built a wall between the Republican Party and Hispanic community," causing Hispanic support to dwindle from 44 percent in 2004 to 27 percent in 2012.

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boutons_deux
11-13-2012, 01:26 PM
"They can't stay unless they learn our language"

WTF? plenty of US citizens in the Confederate states can't speak English, and they aren't all black. :lol

LnGrrrR
11-13-2012, 04:34 PM
To be honest, they should just make English the official language if they're going to make immigrants learn it. Just be consistent at least. Nice to see that Republicans are getting a bucket of cold water dumped on their heads about immigration. Will the bubbas in their party allow them to keep sane though?

mavs>spurs
11-13-2012, 06:50 PM
the american people will never accept amnesty for 20 million plus illegals no matter how much the traitors try to shift the demographics in this country. it'll be civil war before this gets passed. let the illegals stay in the blue states while we secede.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2012, 06:54 PM
It won't be civil war.

There will be no secession.

LnGrrrR
11-13-2012, 06:58 PM
the american people will never accept amnesty for 20 million plus illegals no matter how much the traitors try to shift the demographics in this country. it'll be civil war before this gets passed. let the illegals stay in the blue states while we secede.

Fire the first shot M>S! Be a revolutionary! M>S>Che

Winehole23
11-13-2012, 06:58 PM
self-marginalization is the easiest form of victimization and is apparently very much in vogue among sore losers

George Gervin's Afro
11-13-2012, 07:15 PM
I would go seek out m>s if there was civil war... exchange niceties and such

mavs>spurs
11-13-2012, 07:17 PM
:lol of course be@ner-wife and some of the most hardcore, rabid liberals are for this, but the american people have spoken time and time again. amnesty is a slap in the face to everyone in this country who works hard and respects the country, native born and legal immigrants alike, and all that is good. you don't award law breaking without encouraging bad things.

LnGrrrR
11-13-2012, 07:42 PM
:lol of course be@ner-wife and some of the most hardcore, rabid liberals are for this, but the american people have spoken time and time again. amnesty is a slap in the face to everyone in this country who works hard and respects the country, native born and legal immigrants alike, and all that is good. you don't award law breaking without encouraging bad things.

Do it M>S! Live in history, as the true patriot who reversed the destructive trend in America and instead, turned the country around towards its true promise! You have nothing to fear but fear itself!

ChumpDumper
11-13-2012, 08:00 PM
:lol of course be@ner-wife and some of the most hardcore, rabid liberals are for this, but the american people have spoken time and time again. amnesty is a slap in the face to everyone in this country who works hard and respects the country, native born and legal immigrants alike, and all that is good. you don't award law breaking without encouraging bad things.
I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally.lol time and time again

Latarian Milton
11-13-2012, 08:16 PM
"most americans are for legal immigration" makes me :lmao

legal immigrants make exactly same impact on americans' living standard as much as illegals do, if not more. its only the government that supports legal immigration it seems to me tho, because extra population equals extra taxes, despite it'll lower americans living standard as a whole. a piece of paperwork doesn't justify what's ingenuously wrong tbh

Drachen
11-13-2012, 08:29 PM
lol time and time again

and even more time and more time even more again (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986)
















click the damn link.

Jacob1983
11-13-2012, 10:10 PM
America needs to make up its fuckin' mind on immigration. If illegal immigration is going to be legal and not treated as a crime, then do that and shut the fuck up about it. Stop half assing or even no assing the situation and do something.

Wild Cobra
11-15-2012, 03:09 AM
"most americans are for legal immigration" makes me :lmao

legal immigrants make exactly same impact on americans' living standard as much as illegals do, if not more. its only the government that supports legal immigration it seems to me tho, because extra population equals extra taxes, despite it'll lower americans living standard as a whole. a piece of paperwork doesn't justify what's ingenuously wrong tbh
I see you lack the wisdom of your avatar.

boutons_deux
11-15-2012, 11:23 AM
America needs to make up its fuckin' mind on immigration. If illegal immigration is going to be legal and not treated as a crime, then do that and shut the fuck up about it. Stop half assing or even no assing the situation and do something.

half-assing it is just another way the the Repugs rouse their rabble base, that's why they don't really want a solution, and didn't produce one when they controlled WH and Congress 2001 2008.

god, guns, gays, abortion, illegal immigrants, all serve as Repug tool to sucker their base.