Game Thread: Spurs vs. Knicks - Nov. 15, 2012 @ 7:30 PM CT

[Chomag]

Ya, manu has been so sloppy with passing lately. Most of them seem to be passing off-balance. He seems to be trying to force it and do to much, and needs just to make a
clean pass.

[twincam]

Oh I forgot to add:

Fail #4, Why in the hell was Parker jacking up bricks and allowing Manu to create turnovers when he's still not 100% to contribute?

[Richie]

Manu shot 4/8 tonight and looked good driving to the basket. Offensive liability my ass. Maybe he was against the Lakers, but not tonight.

It's not his fault Tony turned into a ball-hog in the fourth quarter.

Big turnovers at important times and 1-5 from 3, mostly open shots. He was poor.

[Budkin]

We played shitty in the Lakers game and won. Can't do that two games in a row and win. Game is 48 minutes.

[superjames1992]

remind me the ages of the big 3 back then?
There was no Big Three back then.

Tony was a little baby and Manu was like 25. Neither were huge contributors that season (especially Manu).

Timmy was Superman back then, though.

[Budkin]

Fuck off, Tony Parker. Punk-ass.


Hate that guy.

LOL, guys have shitty nights. It happens.

[TDMVPDPOY]

duncan only took 7 shots b4 that stupid 3pt attempt....your bound to lose when his having low shot attempts...

[siraulo23]

ST hates parker now :lol

tbh he did chuck a bit too much

[Darius Bieber]

The Spurs started the season 6-4 in 2002-2003.................

True but look what we had in 2003.

A young thug in Jackson.
A real defense.
A superstar stopper in Bruce Bowen. I'd love to see him (in his prime) defending Durant. Durant would have no chance in hell.
A younger and more athletic big three.
Speedy Claxton to take control.

[MI21]

Tony looked like Westbrook out there in the 4th.. That would be one of his worst quarters ever.

Manu was really bad too, he just looks so slow..

[superjames1992]

Big turnovers at important times and 1-5 from 3, mostly open shots. He was poor.
I agree. He's not an offensive liability, though. I have faith that he'll come through eventually.

Manu always turns the ball over more than we'd like, but he has been especially bad this season. He has to start hitting threes, though. That has become a huge part of his game as he's grown older.

[The_Worlds_finest]

Jason Kidd is a monster on that team. When Amare comes back look out. Spurs need to do something with Bonner.

[TDMVPDPOY]

ST hates parker now :lol

tbh he did chuck a bit too much

its not just the chucking, its the stupid hero ball bullshit he does in games when its not needed just to statpad his production...dude is a fkn scrub from day 1

[BatManu20]

The irony that the Spurs starting sucking ass the minute Splitter left the game is almost incomprehensible enough to make my head explode. Give the Knicks credit for knocking down big shots, but the Spurs choked big time in this one.

[timvp]

After taking a deep breath ........ this game should be a good learning tool. You can't go into coast mode with time still left on the clock. Duncan needs touches when he's playing this well. Just have to play smarter in the fourth.




And props to the Knicks. They played a damn good game.

[HI-FI]

Manu is still looking like an assistant coach who throws a jersey on at the last minute. I really hope he heals up enough for this season.

[SA210]

I hope Pop gets an F- for the last 4 minutes or so

[Manu-20]

Obviously im really pissed off right now at the spurs choke job but it's not like they cant get better they were playing awesome D and had a 12 point lead over one of the tops teams in the league right now and just shat the bed still wont change the fact im pissed off right now but this game may help the spurs more than it would if they had won playing like shit again.

[KaiRMD1]

Fail #1, why in the hell would you keep firing three point attempts when you're not making them during the game?
Fail #2, why in the hell did Popovich bring the starters out when the bench produced the double digit lead?
Fail #3, why in the hell do you allow the opponent to continuously shoot three pointers, and allow them to make them?

I was thinking all of these during the game

[Sean Cagney]

I hate Kidd, that fuck always scores on us no matter what team he is on. Fucking alien

You are right that OLD FUCK does, in Dallas he would hit sime timely shots against us as well. NJ well we won the finals over his team, ever since then I think he has been gifted some back for that and GOD gave him some skill to be able to hit shots on the Spurs. I hate playing against him.

[BatManu20]

After taking a deep breath ........ this game should be a good learning tool. You can't go into coast mode with time still left on the clock. Duncan needs touches when he's playing this well. Just have to play smarter in the fourth.

This team should be past the moral victories and learned lessons tbh. They pride themselves on veteran leadership, yet thier veterans are the one's that blew the game in the 4th.


And props to the Knicks. They played a damn good game.

[bbarry]

After taking a deep breath ........ this game should be a good learning tool. You can't go into coast mode with time still left on the clock. Duncan needs touches when he's playing this well. Just have to play smarter in the fourth.


They've been giving up leads down the late stretch of the games forever. It's in their DNA. They will never learn.

And props to the Knicks. They played a damn good game.

[Chomag]

This is the worst and slowest I have ever seen Manu play. I hope it's all from ailing injuries more then his game falling off a cliff. He is at that age when it happens however....

[TDMVPDPOY]

After taking a deep breath ........ this game should be a good learning tool. You can't go into coast mode with time still left on the clock. Duncan needs touches when he's playing this well. Just have to play smarter in the fourth.




And props to the Knicks. They played a damn good game.

we all seen this from the last 2 seasons in the playoffs, when duncan is in hot mode, he gets subbed, only to return in the 2nd half with 2 shot attempts setup for him...its fkn pathetic hero ball thats costing us games....give the ball to the hot hand, not the hand that thinks he can fkn shoot

[Boomersgold]

we all seen this from the last 2 seasons in the playoffs, when duncan is in hot mode, he gets subbed, only to return in the 2nd half with 2 shot attempts setup for him...its fkn pathetic hero ball thats costing us games....give the ball to the hot hand, not the hand that thinks he can fkn shoot

The only problem is that said player 'can't' shoot. If Tony's drives aren't working for him, then he starts taking jumpshots. When he starts taking jumpshots, you know the Spurs will lose.

[Johnny RIngo]

There was no Big Three back then.

Tony was a little baby and Manu was like 25. Neither were huge contributors that season (especially Manu).

Timmy was Superman back then, though.

It's games like this that show you why we haven't won shit since '07. Duncan exiting his prime and letting Parker/Ginobili become the first option on offense isn't going to win you a championship.

[Mugen]

Kidd amps up the Knicks BBIQ exponentially and it showed tonight.

They passed the ball beautifully while Tony & Manu held it way too long.

[DPG21920]

After taking a deep breath ........ this game should be a good learning tool. You can't go into coast mode with time still left on the clock. Duncan needs touches when he's playing this well. Just have to play smarter in the fourth.




And props to the Knicks. They played a damn good game.

Does a team with this much experience really need to learn that lesson? If so, that is troubling..

To me the "TP is gassed" is the concerning part. Why would he be gassed when he himself says he's still young and can handle more minutes? Faton did not seem gassed and played around the same minutes..

[tim_duncan_fan]

Ya, manu has been so sloppy with passing lately. Most of them seem to be passing off-balance. He seems to be trying to force it and do to much, and needs just to make a
clean pass.


He's always trying to do little cute shit.


Just make the smart pass and GTFO the way until you have enough rhythm to really contribute.

[jesterbobman]

Other than that 7 minutes at the end of the game, the performance was fine. They made shots at a ridiculous rate early and then the D in the 2nd and 3rd was good, and Splitter finishing well was good. Obviously the final stretch was horrible, with Parker being a ball hog in that period, and Manu is clearly off. Sad to lose, and a really bad finish where the offense went to shit, but there are positive elements to take out.

[team-work]

Need for Manu to sit out some games?

[Geeboy]

Is Gary Neal injured?! Manu is too turnover prone to play minutes in crunch time. :bang

[HI-FI]

well on the plus side, Kawhi was doing some great shit out there at times. I have a lot more faith in our youngins right now than 2 of the Big 3.

[SA210]

I'm a Manu bigtime homer, but damn wtf on the turnovers, Tony with the ballhog bs, and Pop not shitting on them, and for not putting bench back in.

[Reck]

This game left a bitter taste in my mouth.

It will be months before I watch another Spurs game. I'm throughly disgusted. Truely.

[SA210]

Pop using the "tired" card, stfu Pop

[Budkin]

They fell apart in the 4th. Shitty game. Still November so it's just not worth freaking out over. Now they'll have a bunch of shit to work on.

[Obstructed_View]

If I told you the Spurs were going to play the Knicks, and one team was going to have their shooting guard putting up ill-advised shots and making bad turnovers in crunch time, and their best player was going to shoot the ball too much and cost his team the win you'd think the Spurs would be the team to win.

[Budkin]

Months? :rolleyes

[timtonymanu]

This game left a bitter taste in my mouth.

It will be months before I watch another Spurs game. I'm throughly disgusted. Truely.

Damn, really? I think they've been through worse losses. It's not like we lost to the Kings out there.

[timtonymanu]

This game left a bitter taste in my mouth.

It will be months before I watch another Spurs game. I'm throughly disgusted. Truely.

Damn, really? I think they've been through worse losses. It's not like we lost to the Kings out there.

[Reck]

Months? :rolleyes

Months.

In fact, may not even waste my time or raise my hope with relugar season esctacy.

[BatManu20]

I haven't felt this shitty after a loss since game 5 of the WCF last year. Spurs choked on a fat one tonight.

[Libri]

Is Gary Neal injured?! Manu is too turnover prone to play minutes in crunch time. :bang

Yes, Pop confirmed it.

[TE]

This game left a bitter taste in my mouth.

It will be months before I watch another Spurs game. I'm throughly disgusted. Truely.
On to the next game, tbh.

[Dingle Barry]

This game left a bitter taste in my mouth.

It will be months before I watch another Spurs game. I'm throughly disgusted. Truely.
:madrun:madrun

[DPG21920]

Other than that 7 minutes at the end of the game, the performance was fine. They made shots at a ridiculous rate early and then the D in the 2nd and 3rd was good, and Splitter finishing well was good. Obviously the final stretch was horrible, with Parker being a ball hog in that period, and Manu is clearly off. Sad to lose, and a really bad finish where the offense went to shit, but there are positive elements to take out.

In every game there are positives. It's not panic to say a team with the other team's superstar neutered, at home, with a double digit lead in the 4th should win. It's a really, really bad loss when you saw how the game was playing out. Fourth quarter let downs from your stars at home are alarming no matter how you slice it. Especially when one of your stars looks really damn iffy physically and has an injury history.

[Reck]

:madrun:madrun

Leave me to my grief son.

[SA210]

The ending to this game is embarrassing really. Just horrible. BSPN will be on Knicks nut-sack tomorrow and shitting on Spurs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol TP is gassed excuse.....dude wasnt tired when he went kobe mode....

fkn westbrick wannab

[DPG21920]

Still think it's incredible how TP is taking care of the ball though. That will keep the Spurs in a lot of games.

[timtonymanu]

On to the next game, tbh.

rofl it's true. But it's Shadowflames we're talking about here.

[playblair]

the real question is why did diaw play over blair in the 2nd half ..... diaw made turrible decisions while blair started the game playing stellar defense

[timtonymanu]

On to the next game, tbh.

rofl it's true. But it's Shadowflames we're talking about here.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I bet Tony is one of those guys who is still keeping up with his stats throughout every game 10 years into the league.


He always was the least Spur-like of the Spurs. Always half-way gone Hollywood.

[Reck]

rofl it's true. But it's Shadowflames we're talking about here.

Did I fucked your sister or something? You've been on my dick for a minute now. rofl

[timtonymanu]

Did I fucked your sister or something? You've been on my dick for a minute now. rofl

No, it's pretty common knowledge on the forum that you're a shitty poster.

But yeah go on with your grief. See you in months. Don't you dare show up sooner.

[Reck]

No, it's pretty common knowledge on the forum that you're a shitty poster.

But yeah go on with your grief. See you in months. Don't you dare show up sooner.

Like you're a shining example of good takes. At least I have my own takes. You just piggy back off others. :lol

And hey faggot I never said I would leave the board.

[Geeboy]

In fairness to the Spurs, we played great D tonight. It's just that that Knicks where shooting the lights out on the last 4 minutes while we are are throwing bricks. Kidd shooting the ball 2 feet from the line is insane. It's their night, but Pop should know better.:nope

[Budkin]

Wow it's mid November. Crappy loss but nothing near the level of being eliminated after choking a 2-0 lead in the WCF when you are the favorite to win it all. I still haven't gotten over that loss.

[timtonymanu]

Like you're a shining example of good takes. At least I have my own takes. You just piggy back off others. :lol

And hey faggot I never said I would leave the board.

Where have I piggy backed others? rofl. It's obvious you think of me then when I don't post much downstairs.

[timtonymanu]

Like you're a shining example of good takes. At least I have my own takes. You just piggy back off others. :lol

And hey faggot I never said I would leave the board.

Where have I piggy backed others? rofl. It's obvious you think of me then when I don't post much downstairs.

[kobexxx]

TP is not a superstar. He'S ONLY GOOD FOR REGULAR SEASONS. He disappears during playoffs. He can be guarded, unlike the real superstars. SA need a superstar who can carry the team during Playoffs, else it'll be the same story again.

[Sean Cagney]

Glad I turned that crap off so I didn't see what has everyone so worked up. Pop has to grill Tiago even harder now, so he plays even better, and then he can bench him even more.

I am glad I did not get to watch this crap either.

[Reck]

Where have I piggy backed others? rofl. It's obvious you think of me then when I don't post much downstairs.

LOL trying the reverse psychology on me. I've seen you post plenty of stupid shit here and otherwise. Fact!

[Boomersgold]

I can see it now...
Skip Bayless: "The Spurs would've won had Pop played Splitter down the stretch. He was on fire and was setting some mean picks."
Stephen A Smith: "The Spurs are too old. And Tiago Splitter, Tiiaagooo Spliitteerrrr, is still a scrub. The Knicks just outplayed them the entire game. They deserved the win."

[timtonymanu]

LOL trying the reverse psychology on me. I've seen you post plenty of stupid shit here and otherwise. Fact!

It's obvious you've been stalking me then. It's easy to find a shitty take from you downstairs. You've had me on your mind for a while now.

I admit I probably have made some stupid comments before, but you've always been shitty and a lot of posters know it. At least you're consistent. Props.

Anyway, enjoy your grief.

[Boomersgold]

LOL trying the reverse psychology on me. I've seen you post plenty of stupid shit here and otherwise. Fact!

Wait! If you're favourite team is Knicks, does that mean you were rooting for the Knicks?

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

:pop: I'm making up excuses so we don't look bad.

[MinuteByMinuteSports]

It looked like we went run and gun style. Or was that my imagination?

[Reck]

It's obvious you've been stalking me then. It's easy to find a shitty take from you downstairs. You've had me on your mind for a while now.

I admit I probably have made some stupid comments before, but you've always been shitty and a lot of posters know it. At least you're consistent. Props.

Anyway, enjoy your grief.

Dude lol please.

You have quoted me twice in the past month to talk trash about me while I have done or say anything about you. I must be getting under your skin to go to such extreme measures.

To me, you're a nobody so why would I be worry about you like you are so much about me?

And LOL others. What others? lmao

Good night rookie.

[Reck]

Wait! If you're favourite team is Knicks, does that mean you were rooting for the Knicks?

I got hometown love for the Knicks taht's all. They're not my favorite.

[timtonymanu]

Dude lol please.

You have quoted me twice in the past month to talk trash about me while I have done or say anything about you. I must be getting under your skin to go to such extreme measures.

To me, you're a nobody so why would I be worry about you like you are so much about me?

And LOL others. What others? lmao

Good night rookie.

Don't really care what you think of me, tbh. But I find it creepy how you claim to know so much about my posting history when I'm a "nobody" to you. I think you're confusing me with someone else. Other than you being a shitty poster tonight, I don't even remember quoting you another time.

[timtonymanu]

Dude lol please.

You have quoted me twice in the past month to talk trash about me while I have done or say anything about you. I must be getting under your skin to go to such extreme measures.

To me, you're a nobody so why would I be worry about you like you are so much about me?

And LOL others. What others? lmao

Good night rookie.

Don't really care what you think of me, tbh. But I find it creepy how you claim to know so much about my posting history when I'm a "nobody" to you. I think you're confusing me with someone else. Other than you being a shitty poster tonight, I don't even remember quoting you another time.

[TE]

Well, things don't get much easier from here. Next two games, at home, against matchup nightmares in Denver and LA Clips. If Pop said the team is tired, shut everybody down cause they're gonna need all the rest to run and keep up with these young/athletic squads.

[Reck]

Don't really care what you think of me, tbh. But I find it creepy how you claim to know so much about my posting history when I'm a "nobody" to you. I think you're confusing me with someone else. Other than you being a shitty poster tonight, I don't even remember quoting you another time.

Follow your own advise. :lol

A, you say you dont post much downstairs so how would you know of what I post.
B, for someone who doesn't care you sure are getting butthurt over comments I may or may not post.

You're contradicting yourself. If you're going to call me a shitty poster and a stalker, at least have some security blanket on yourself instead of shooting yourself in the foot.

[SA210]

:pop: I'm making up excuses so we don't look bad.

[Creation88]

Fuck bandwagon knicks fans

[Paranoid Pop]

Truth is we probably played better then in any of our wins thus far, the level of intensity on D was good overall if anything Pop scheme of doubling Melo and giving space to their 3 point shooters was at fault but individually it was good overall, SJax is money when it comes to defend elite PFs, makes me want to see him on Griffin tbh, the offense looked much improved. TP and Manu will get into better shape but I was pretty pleased with what I saw.

That said the second unit should be better than what they show, other than Sjax they are pretty underwheming, Patty can't run a decent play and Manu is not in shape or healthy enough at this point.

[crc21209]

On to the next one is all I can say after this one. They didnt play very well for a good stretch tonight. Sometimes I think a loss like tonight (good kick in the ass) can do wonders for a team in the long run....

[crc21209]

Still think it's incredible how TP is taking care of the ball though. That will keep the Spurs in a lot of games.

I've been really impressed that he's cut down on his turnovers this year also....

[Raven]

bad loss, really.. oh well, we'll survive.

[kobexxx]

need to get a superstar go to guy.....