View Full Version : Who is watching F1? That Austin track is the shiznit!
CosmicCowboy
11-18-2012, 03:22 PM
sweet!
mavs>spurs
11-18-2012, 04:42 PM
u mean the one they paid for with taxpayer money to make a few rich assholes more rich
CosmicCowboy
11-18-2012, 07:06 PM
How did Boutons steal your login? It may be a VRWC but It's still awesome. F1 >>>>>>>>Nascar.
Latarian Milton
11-18-2012, 07:36 PM
watched it in the early days but haven't watched it much since schumacher left ferrari
jeebus
11-18-2012, 07:58 PM
watched it in the early days but haven't watched it much since schumacher left ferrari
+1
I watched the shit out of it in the 90s, almost every race when he was with Ferrari. I eventually stopped about 10 years ago but it's still fun to watch. much better than that redneck nascar faggotry
Some people are making a killing just renting out rooms to the visitors. My inlaws are making 500 a night for their casita, and had it out all week and weekend. Nothing wrong with that, but it was crazy Friday night when I landed on my return flight from Denver. The airport was full of race fans even around midnight.
Latarian Milton
11-18-2012, 08:26 PM
the only thing good with nascar is their engines don't combust petrol, but alcohol instead so they're supposedly preferred by most environmentalists tbh
johnsmith
11-18-2012, 08:27 PM
u mean the one they paid for with taxpayer money to make a few rich assholes more rich
Taxpayers hardly paid shit for it and a ton of local contractors made boat loads of money off the construction of it as well as made a shit ton of jobs building it......and forget about the tourism money it brought in....that place was a gold mine for the city of Austin, the state of Texas, and a bunch of locals that rented out their houses.
johnsmith
11-18-2012, 08:28 PM
Anyone that is still opposed to it is believing everything they read on the Internet and is a sucker not going along with it.....total success for everyone involved!
leemajors
11-18-2012, 09:53 PM
traffic wasn't even bad today, which was a definite plus.
sweet!
It's legit. A rare instance I will agree with you on anything.
CubanMustGo
11-18-2012, 11:22 PM
You can thank big Red McCombs. He's the money behind this thing, without him it would have shriveled up like Tavo's dick when Bernie pulled his contract.
Big Red gets shit done. I love the man. Go buy his used cars pronto!
ChumpDumper
11-19-2012, 01:46 AM
Taxpayers hardly paid shit for itWhat does that mean in actual dollars?
johnsmith
11-19-2012, 11:59 AM
What does that mean in actual dollars?
25 million.
JudynTX
11-19-2012, 12:11 PM
How many more races will be at this new track? We hope to check it out sometime.
ChumpDumper
11-19-2012, 12:14 PM
25 million.Ok, that was just the amount from the state event fund this year -- it's actually a quarter billion over 10 years.. That's a start.
How much else?
ChumpDumper
11-19-2012, 12:15 PM
How many more races will be at this new track? We hope to check it out sometime.You're on the hook for another $40 million for a motorcycle race at least.
johnsmith
11-19-2012, 12:38 PM
Ok, that was just the amount from the state event fund this year -- it's actually a quarter billion over 10 years.. That's a start.
How much else?
But they plan on using profit from the race to pay next years "installment" and then keep doing just that each year....don't get me wrong here, I understand that govt promises about where certain money goes doesn't always happen but if they do what they say they're gonna then it won't be a problem.
Furthermore, if you knew all of this, why did you ask?
Finally, why is everyone against small businesses that made a boat load of money on the construction f the track and created a 1,000 jobs (albeit temporary ones)?
ChumpDumper
11-19-2012, 12:45 PM
I knew some of it; I'm sure there's a lot more i don't know.
When you say they plan on using the profit, who are you talking about? I hadn't heard of this plan and I'm not sure how it would work.
Drachen
11-19-2012, 01:11 PM
I know they have to pay 25 million per year to the F1 organization just for the privilege of hosting f1 events.
johnsmith
11-19-2012, 01:30 PM
I knew some of it; I'm sure there's a lot more i don't know.
When you say they plan on using the profit, who are you talking about? I hadn't heard of this plan and I'm not sure how it would work.
http://m.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/texas-taxpayers-would-foot-1st-formula-one-bill/nRtJG/
This is an old story but the only one I could find while sitting at lunch. Explains it pretty well though.
ChumpDumper
11-19-2012, 01:42 PM
So there's really no telling what would go back into the fund at this point.
I just have trouble with the idea of subsidizing the risk of billionaires. From tech companies to F1 races to the Spurs to toll roads to medical corporations. I don't know where it's supposed to stop.
johnsmith
11-19-2012, 01:49 PM
So there's really no telling what would go back into the fund at this point.
I just have trouble with the idea of subsidizing the risk of billionaires. From tech companies to F1 races to the Spurs to toll roads to medical corporations. I don't know where it's supposed to stop.
I see your point, and it's definitely valid, but I think in this instance, it's a good idea...and I thought it was really stupid at first.
CosmicCowboy
11-29-2012, 11:56 AM
Dang...some serious intrigue on the World Championship...Ferrari is appealing...
ROME (AP) — Formula One's governing body said Thursday that it will explain to Ferrari why it did not penalize Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel for an overtaking maneuver in the season-ending Brazilian Grand Prix.
FIA believes there is no cause for Ferrari to lodge an appeal that, if successful, would strip Vettel of the F1 title and give it to Ferrari driver Fernando Alonso.
Video footage from Sunday's Brazilian GP appears to show that Vettel passed Jean-Eric Vergne's Toro Rosso's while a yellow caution light was on.
If a rules breach were proven, Vettel would be hit with a 20-second penalty, which would move him from sixth place to eighth in the race and give Alonso the F1 title by one point.
"The incident wasn't reported to stewards in the first place because it didn't seem like there was a need to report it at the time," Norman Howell, the director of communications for the International Automobile Federation (FIA), told The Associated Press. "Now that Ferrari has sent us a letter asking for an explanation we will give it to them."
One of the videos was taken from a camera on Vettel's car.
"Ferrari has asked, via a letter, an explanation from the FIA over VET's pass of VER on lap 4 of the Brazilian GP," the Italian team said in a Twitter post Thursday.
Alonso finished second in the race at Interlagos, but Vettel's sixth place was enough to give him his third straight season title by three points. The 25-year-old German became F1's youngest three-time champion.
Should Alonso be awarded the title, he would become a three-time champion.
"We're looking at the video. We have until tomorrow to file an appeal," Ferrari spokesman Luca Colajanni told The AP.
If Ferrari does appeal, the case would then be considered by the four Brazilian GP stewards. After an eventual decision, each side can appeal to the FIA appeals court, with a final decision likely before the F1 awards ceremony in Istanbul on Dec. 7.
Vettel appeared to be in big trouble when he was bumped shortly after the start of the race and spun. He dropped to last place before he could turn his car around and began to chase the leaders. He steadily worked his way up the field despite a slightly damaged car and no radio communication.
It was during Vettel's climb back through the field that the alleged illegal overtake of Vergne occurred.
When there is a yellow caution flag or light, it signals danger on the track and drivers must slow down and not overtake. If a driver does overtake, he is penalized with a drive-thru or a 20-second penalty in the final results if the infraction is discovered after the race is over.
Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/FIA-has-an-explanation-for-Ferrari-in-passing-case-4075851.php#ixzz2DdDPitDL
robino2001
11-30-2012, 11:23 AM
You can thank big Red McCombs. He's the money behind this thing, without him it would have shriveled up like Tavo's dick when Bernie pulled his contract.
Late to the party but one thing I noticed... I live in Austin but was in SA for F1 weekend. SA media covered the event pretty well - but EVERYTHING the SA media said was Red McComb's this, Red that, etc... this is his baby, he made it gold... etc. In the lead up to F1 in Austin, I don't recall hearing Red McCombs name once. I know he had a large hand in it, but it was funny seeing the extreme night and day difference in the two media markets.
Biernutz
11-30-2012, 10:06 PM
I went to the race and had a great time. There were race fans from all 50 states and 42 foreign country's. I talked to fans from England ,South America Australia. They were renting cars ,staying downtown in Austin for most of the week and enjoying the night life. Everyone said the were having a great time and will be back as many times they have a race here. One of the Grand Prix drivers liked the area around Austin so much he bought a horse ranch in the area. Food vendors made money as the lowest cost hamburger cost $9. I paid $150 for a general admission ticket. That was the lowest cost ticket. Next year I will buy a higher cost ticket. The Attendance for Friday was 40,000 Saturday was 80,000 and Sunday was 120,000. I was there and I would believe the figures on the attendance. I have co-worker tried to rent a car for the mid week thru Sunday of the race weekend and was told all rent cars in central Texas were rented. This had to be a big money maker for the Austin area like SXSW. I am looking forward to the bikes in April and the Australian V8 super cars in May.
Red McCombs does not invest in money into losing sports investments.....He made tons of money when he sold the Spurs and the Vikings. I believe the track will pay it's way sooner than later because there was no major sponsors of the track and they were under the gun to just finish the track in time for the race. This will come along with more events other than auto races.
CubanMustGo
11-30-2012, 11:28 PM
Michael Schumacher, the man who won more F1 championships than anyone in history, is the one who bought the 500-acre ranch.
Red got a lot of air time on Speed, because they're up on the whole story. I live in Austin, too; no doubt his role here was overshadowed by the Tavo-Epstein pissing match but he's the one who brought the bulk of the money to the table.
lefty
12-01-2012, 12:08 AM
Meh ....
Average track
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