Game Thread: Spurs vs. Clippers - Nov. 19, 2012 @ 7:30 PM CST

[playblair]

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vs 7:30


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[bbarry]

it is gonna be nice to get some payback.

[ace3g]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/121119_neal_shoot

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/121119_diaw_shoot

[TDMVPDPOY]

LOSING this game, either means we cant beat a full strength monkeyball team....

but there is a correlation between cp3 and teams that peaks too early, where injuries will catch up to them derail the team off course tanking out whatever contender run

[DPG21920]

As Bruno mentioned before, the bench play is a big deal right now for LA vs SA. LA is deep and is performing well especially with Jamal Crawford absolutely lighting it up. I will be very interested to see if Jordan can keep up his level of play. If he has truly made a leap in his game as he's shown so far this year, LAC is a legit contender to do serious damage in the West. Still highly skeptical that Jordan will be a double digit scorer consistently but he is playing hard, running the floor and using his unreal athleticism to score at a high clip. He's also protecting the rim like crazy.

[LakerHater]

Ref Assignment



Bill Kennedy
Karl Lane
Leroy Richardson

[ace3g]

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) Coach Pop said he doesn't like to tell Jackson what to do. I don’t want to piss Jack off. I don’t tell Jack to do anything" #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash) #Clippers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Clippers&src=hash)

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) This is how Pop deals with Jack: "I say ok, Timmy, Manu go talk to him.” #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash) #Clippers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Clippers&src=hash)


dan mccarney ‏@danmccarneysaen (https://twitter.com/danmccarneysaen)
Pop says DeJuan Blair will start tonight against Clips, for no particular reason other than that's what he wants to do.

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer)
Coach Pop on Stephen Jackson: “I’m not going to play Jack 40 minutes, because Jack’s about 43 or 44." #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash) #Clippers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Clippers&src=hash)

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer)
Coach Pop on Danny Green: “Danny Green’s turned into a pretty good player, we've gone to him a few times.” #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash) #Clippers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Clippers&src=hash)

[TD 21]

As Bruno mentioned before, the bench play is a big deal right now for LA vs SA. LA is deep and is performing well especially with Jamal Crawford absolutely lighting it up. I will be very interested to see if Jordan can keep up his level of play. If he has truly made a leap in his game as he's shown so far this year, LAC is a legit contender to do serious damage in the West. Still highly skeptical that Jordan will be a double digit scorer consistently but he is playing hard, running the floor and using his unreal athleticism to score at a high clip. He's also protecting the rim like crazy.

The Clippers depth is vastly overrated. The back court isn't, with Crawford and Bledsoe, but the front line is pathetic. Odom looks done, Barnes is a fringe rotation player and Hollins and Turiaf are scrubs, who wouldn't crack most teams rotations.

When Billups and Hill return, they'll be overloaded on the perimeter. Guys like Green and Barnes, who have contributed to their start, will be riding the pine and one or two of Butler, Billups, Hill, Crawford and Bledsoe, will have their minutes squeezed and that will inevitably lead to chemistry issues.

The difference between the Spurs and Clippers is, the Spurs have depth, while the Clippers have too many guys.

[Budkin]

It'll be a tough win without Kawhi but we'll get it done.

[DPG21920]

The Clippers depth is vastly overrated. The back court isn't, with Crawford and Bledsoe, but the front line is pathetic. Odom looks done, Barnes is a fringe rotation player and Hollins and Turiaf are scrubs, who wouldn't crack most teams rotations.

When Billups and Hill return, they'll be overloaded on the perimeter. Guys like Green and Barnes, who have contributed to their start, will be riding the pine and one or two of Butler, Billups, Hill, Crawford and Bledsoe, will have their minutes squeezed and that will inevitably lead to chemistry issues.

The difference between the Spurs and Clippers is, the Spurs have depth, while the Clippers have too many guys.

That sounds almost identical to the Spurs tbh...lots of talented guards/sf's but big men an issue.

[TD 21]

That sounds almost identical to the Spurs tbh...lots of talented guards/sf's but big men an issue.

Splitter and Diaw are light years better than any of the Clippers backup bigs, though.

Also, Spurs perimeter guys, other than Jackson, weren't big name guys used to being featured scorers for the majority of their career, so they handle their role better than some of the Clippers guys likely will.

[timvp]

L'go, tbh.

[timvp]

Green scores the first bucket again :smokin

[DatBoyGood]

Every game Green scores first bucket lol

[Paranoid Pop]

Bad pass by Tim.

[timvp]

Good take by Jack.

[DatBoyGood]

jax!

[timvp]

Damn it. Jack hurt. :pctoss

[Captivus]

Take it slow guys!! dont rush things!

[ace3g]

and on his shooting hand..

[DatBoyGood]

if we lose jax this team is in trouble

[Russ]

Spurs going one-on-one.

[siraulo23]

tony cant pass on the break, and d gren cant finish

[crc21209]

He'll be alright, Jack's a warrior...

[Spurs Brazil]

I hope Jax is OK

[timvp]

tony cant pass on the break, and d gren cant finish

Tbh, Parker shouldn't pass on the break. He scores just about every time he goes by himself.

[Mugen]

RJ woulda been dead right now if that happened to him.

[naico]

Shooting hand too..

[DatBoyGood]

good job blake. :lol

[Russ]

Great interior D by the Spurs. Best in years.

[timvp]

Pass Interference on Blake Griffin.

Incomplete Pass Blake Griffin.

[Paranoid Pop]

Turnotimmy.

[timvp]

Duncan+Splitter sighting.

[timvp]

Hell of a pass by TP. To Manu.

[DatBoyGood]

DUNCAN!!

[Manu-20]

Duncan is on a mission this game.

[DesertSpur50]

Timmy coast to coast!!!!!!!

[siraulo23]

omfg duncan is a beast

please please, i want this rejuvenated version of duncan in the POs

[timvp]

Duncan :wow

[Russ]

Duncan sure looks good (for someone who is done).

[BillMc]

Timmy moving so nice this year. Almost a glide compared to previous years recently

[HI-FI]

if Duncan is at this level in the POs, oh shit sons

[bklynspursfan]

8 points 6 boards and 1 block in about 9 minutes.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tim Duncan is fucking amazing

Tony good job attacking

[Manu-20]

IF we had this version of duncan in the playoffs last year we would of went all the way.

[Captivus]

Yahoo fantasy has to chance Tim Duncan to C-PG.

[Pauleta14]

Wow Timmy is........WoW

[BillMc]

Dear God, please let Timmy's career never end.

[DPG21920]

Clips missing looks from good spots, but I like that our bigs stay some what grounded vs leaping to block shots. Especially down low with Tim and Tiago in the game. Instead of getting fouls called on you by jumping up and down, stay grounded and keep your arms up high. Then use your lower body to just nudge them some.

Tim is just ballin so hard.

[Paranoid Pop]

Duncan sure looks good (for someone who is done).

Not confortable with him trying so much to play PG tbh, it was nice don't get me wrong but it could have easily been a third turnover.

[007nites]

Timmy playing like LeBron

[siraulo23]

i think duncan wants to be in the all star game, after not making it last season tbh

[007nites]

Clips missing looks from good spots, but I like that our bigs stay some what grounded vs leaping to block shots. Especially down low with Tim and Tiago in the game. Instead of getting fouls called on you by jumping up and down, stay grounded and keep your arms up high. Then use your lower body to just nudge them some.

Tim is just ballin so hard.

It's like Tim and Rasho back in the day

[SpursRock20]

Not confortable with him trying so much to play PG tbh, it was nice don't get me wrong but it could have easily been a third turnover.

I love when Duncan brings the ball up court. He's actually a great dribbler for a big man, imo.

[Pauleta14]

Timmy "benjamin Button" DUNCAN...

[DPG21920]

Amazing how different the Clips O looks when Bledsoe and Willie are not spacing the floor with 3 balls.

[ace3g]

nice arc on those FTs by Splitter

[DPG21920]

Great, now Manu will have a shattered vertebrae.

[timvp]

Manu with the smart kamikaze.

[SpursRock20]

Manu looked quick right there. Definitely rounding into form!

[bklynspursfan]

Best FT shooters in this game. Jordan and Splitter

[timvp]

Ginobili :rolleyes

[007nites]

Too many passes

[siraulo23]

one pass too many on that possession

[timvp]

Jack is actually hurt :pctoss

[Kool Bob Love]

CoM

[SpursRock20]

Too unselfish right there. Ginobili needs to shoot that.

And Jackson is worrying me.

[DatBoyGood]

manu is something else

[DPG21920]

Damn, Jack. Not good.

[DPG21920]

:lol Crawford with the hot sauce bads

[Russ]

Damn, Jack. Not good.

I think he'll be fine.

[Mugen]

crofl Manu wrecking crawford

[SpursRock20]

Manu is looking very spry defensively.

[DPG21920]

Great pass by Manu, Tiago with the allergic to dunking finish

[007nites]

Manu is our best defender on the perimeter hands down. May even be the best in the West.

[Mugen]

damn i hope Jack is okay that its nothing serious like manus hand injury last year.

[JohnnyMax]

http://i.imm.io/MeSf.jpeg

[Paranoid Pop]

Manu is our best defender on the perimeter hands down. May even be the best in the West.

:lol

[crc21209]

Jack will be alright....even if he needs a game or two off...

[Kool Bob Love]

Manu was not gonna let jamal "nutmeg" him.

[Manu-20]

Jacks should be fine give him a couple days off doubt he will be gone for more than a week at most.

[ElNono]

Good game for Tim and Manu to show up, since TP seems scared of CP3 per par bads

[Spurs Brazil]

Good 1st quarter but it'll be tough with Jax out

[BillMc]

We've gone from deep at SF to thin mighty quick

[Mugen]

how long was Delonte West out last year when he dislocated/fractured his finger???

[HI-FI]

monkeyballers playing dirty, per par

[timvp]

Ginobili with two of the dumber passes you'll ever see.

[ElNono]

That p&r with Tiago isn't working...

[bklynspursfan]

PG Neal... lol

[timvp]

Ginobili has to bring the ball up when Neal is defended by Bledsoe.

[SpursRock20]

Neal dribbles worse than a girl.

[ElNono]

Then Neal as PG never worked... smh

[TDMVPDPOY]

damn odom and diaw = teletubbies

[BatManu20]

Odom's a fatty

[ElNono]

Diaw bailed out

[007nites]

If it weren't for these offensive boards the game would be tied by now

[Russ]

Jacks should be fine give him a couple days off doubt he will be gone for more than a week at most.

Much as I like Jack . . .

He could be out for a week with an upset stomach.

[timvp]

Pop to Ginobili: "Bring the ball up!"

[SpursRock20]

Although he missed, I'm glad Diaw shot that.

[BatManu20]

Gary Neal fucking sucks sometimes..

[ElNono]

damn Neal

[timvp]

Damn it. The bench had a chance to push this to ~15. Instead they got sloppy and it's a game again.

[024]

patty mills would have finished that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol gary neal....dude is a fkn scrub

[DatBoyGood]

weak...

[DPG21920]

:lmao that slow motion break with Gary/Danny. Spurs lack some elite wing/guard finishers outside of TP (Manu doesn't appear to be elite there any more).

[SpursRock20]

It's becoming very clear to me that we really don't have a backup point. All of our candidates have a glaring weakness.

[crc21209]

The Clippers are playing like crap right now, the Spurs NEED to take advantage of it....

[Manu-20]

Lets put nando in this game at least he can bring the ball up and provide some ball movement.

[Paranoid Pop]

Their bench is just plain better than ours, no surprise whatsoever.

[HI-FI]

Gotta put Nando in for Neal. Nando is far more confident/competent as a handler and passer

[ElNono]

unfortunately both Kawhi and Jack are very important pieces, especially defensively... doesn't bode well for the Spurs both of them being out

[Captivus]

Pop has to make sure he is not gonna ask himself in 4 months: Why did I waited so much to put Nando in??

[Spurs Brazil]

how long was Delonte West out last year when he dislocated/fractured his finger???

6 weeks

[timvp]

Ginobili and Neal benched for Mills and De Colo.

[ElNono]

ugh, no big 3

[DatBoyGood]

lmao nando

[TDMVPDPOY]

man diaw has to shootthat shit everytime he decides to drive

[007nites]

de colo needs to stop with that nigga ball

[Kool Bob Love]

SMFH

[Russ]

Playground ball . . .

[SpursRock20]

Where has our 3pt shooting gone?

[timvp]

The Spurs bench with negative IQ basketball.

[DPG21920]

Great start by Nando :tu. Not leading to anything yet, but he has played well. LA bench out doing Spurs again which is definitely an issue continued...

[024]

at this rate, we're going to see matt bonner in the game.

[DatBoyGood]

pathetic

[SpursRock20]

Decolo is out of his element.

[Russ]

DeColo/Mills look challenged.

[ElNono]

Pop with the absolute coaching bads... wtf

[DPG21920]

Spurs are a soft team a lot of the time.

[siraulo23]

cant rebound for shit, lol

[ElNono]

wtf rebound

[Spurs Brazil]

Bench killing us

[timvp]

Splitter is ultra soft Charmain mode.

[bklynspursfan]

This lineup is an absolute joke.

[024]

pop letting the bench suffer

[siraulo23]

diaw splitter, hmm

[naico]

wow TO's and rebounds...It's been like that all year now.

[TDMVPDPOY]

wats with teh fancy passes, fkn spurs playin stupid shit

[Johnny RIngo]

Diaw, Neal, DeColo, Green all playing terrible

[Captivus]

Decolo is out of his element.

If Pop dont use him thats always gonna happen.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tiago/Diaw can't get a damn board

[Paranoid Pop]

So many TOs, it's like nobody takes cares of the ball besides TP.

Their bench is raping ours AGAIN.

[timvp]

Time for TP, TBH.

[ElNono]

Is Tony still :cry tired :cry?

[Splits]

Who needs Jordan on the o-boards when you've got... Matt fucking Barnes? 3 straight offensive boards/putbacks? Pathetic.

[DPG21920]

Diaw has really regressed this season which is disappointing considering he's in decent shape and had a training camp. Tiago is talented and he needs to be the focal point when stuff like this is going on.

[crc21209]

This line-up fucking blows. Nando-Mills-Green-Diaw-Splitter? WTF Pop. Like timvp has said before, ONE of the Big 3 has to be on the floor at ALL times...

[Boomersgold]

De Colo's playing like crap. Take him off.

[Spurs Brazil]

Why the fuck Timmy and Tony are still on the bench????

[ElNono]

Tiago is too soft to be focal point of anything

[bklynspursfan]

Pop needs to get TD and TP in there. And Manu for that matter. Who the hell cares what VND is doing with his starters

[PingPong]

Splitter bruised his silk skin..

[crc21209]

Don't Tim or Tony usually come in around the 8 minute mark in the 2nd? Wake Up Pop!

[timvp]

The Spurs bench gets bent over religiously by the Clips. Odd, tbh.

[Boomersgold]

De Colo comes in, gets 2 turnovers and misses a wide open shot. I'd rather play Joseph than De Colo.

[BatManu20]

Green.. smh

[DatBoyGood]

Yikes.

[Russ]

Green will always break your heart.

[crc21209]

I can't stand ANY of the Clippers. They're all your typical "balla" douchebags. Paul, Jordan, Barnes, Bledsoe, etc...

[Boomersgold]

Wow. Green, you're better than this.....

[Johnny RIngo]

Tiago is too soft to be focal point of anything

Have you seen the rest of the bench? Tiago's the only one playing half decent

[Mugen]

brutal stretch of bball from the Spurs there. Clippers bench has killed us in both games.

[Paranoid Pop]

We can't win with such a difference in bench production, more TOs lol...

[timvp]

Jack hurt. Green's face is bruised and his lip is bleeding. Splitter bleeding from his lower extremities. Clippers know how to play Ginobili for the pass on pick-and-rolls. Bench rolls over and dies.

Bleh.

[024]

did del negro just pull a good coaching move?? coaxing pop to go bench v bench?

[timvp]

Jack hurt. Green's face is bruised and his lip is bleeding. Splitter bleeding from his lower extremities. Clippers know how to play Ginobili for the pass on pick-and-rolls. Bench rolls over and dies.

Bleh.

[ElNono]

Have you seen the rest of the bench? Tiago's the only one playing half decent

That doesn't mean he can be the focal point of anything or that he's not soft

[Paranoid Pop]

We're going for a TO record, great reality check tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

Parker needs to come out and be aggressive. Offense is struggling. He has to up his play

[ElNono]

We need Capt TP... is he gonna show up?

[Clipper Nation]

did del negro just pull a good coaching move?? coaxing pop to go bench v bench?

Tbh, he basically tries to rip off Pop as much as possible, so there you have it...

[Kool Bob Love]

POP trollin. Sequ would be proud.

[Boomersgold]

Why is Pop playing De Colo?

[crc21209]

:lol Barnes. Fucking LA jumping piece of shit.....

[Johnny RIngo]

De Colo comes in, gets 2 turnovers and misses a wide open shot. I'd rather play Joseph than De Colo.

I've never liked DeColo. Maybe I was watching the wrong games but everytime I tuned in to see the French NT, he looked like garbage. Calling him a poor man's Ginobili is an insult to Manu

[Mugen]

People wanting to trade Jack need to look at the last 6 mins to see how much the Spurs need his toughness/grit when shit goes south.

[Boomersgold]

Great D by De Colo!

[DatBoyGood]

I hate Barnes.

[Paranoid Pop]

Got monkeyballed so easily, disturbing stuff.

[timvp]

Clippers are pretty damn good defensively ................. but not this good.

[ElNono]

oh well... another 20pt loss to the Clipps... they just have a great bench this season

[naico]

fucking pathetic

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This has to be the ugliest stretch of basketball played by the Spurs all season.

Holy cow

[crc21209]

I can't wait till Crawford starts shooting 30% in a month. He's overrated up the ass right now...

[TheSkeptic]

That stretch might've costed us the game. We need a back-up point guard in the worst way...

[Clipper Nation]

Clippers are pretty damn good defensively ................. but not this good.

Tbh, I think we're 2nd in the league in defensive efficiency at the moment...

[Boomersgold]

Someone please tell me why De Colo's still in the game?

[ElNono]

19-2 run and we don't even look mad

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Fucking bench crapped their pants and now the whole team is in a funk after a great start... ugh. :pctoss

[boutons_deux]

spurs 5 - 22 2nd qtr

they may not get 10 pts

[TE]

Nothing going in ATM

[bklynspursfan]

These are wide open shots being missed, they should start to drop at some point

[HI-FI]

Clips playing niggaball and we are playing Euro style soft. We have to outgrit these fuckers.

[ElNono]

more flops

[timvp]

CP3 with the barrel roll :lol

[naico]

Nice flop

[HI-FI]

CP3, the Nicolas Cage of flopping

[TE]

The best flopper in the game doing what he do.

[crc21209]

:lol Paul runs into Green, gets the call. Unbelievable. How anyone could root for this little pussy is beyond me...

[Clipper Nation]

CP3 trolling with det one :lol

[SpursRock20]

That flop was so obvious.

[widowmaker]

If they have a thing called monkey ball for the clippers. They need to have a thing called dummy ball for the spurs. That or pussy ball.

[LakerHater]

Clippers outscoring Spurs 23-5 in 2Q

[Boomersgold]

CP3, an All-star flopper.

[crc21209]

One of these days he's going to flop his way into an injury...bruised tailbone, sprained ankle, torn ACL, etc.

[Duncan2177]

That stretch might've costed us the game. We need a back-up point guard in the worst way...

Where's Derek Fishface?

[timvp]

If the Spurs can keep this within 5 by halftime, that'd be pretty damn great all things considered. If the starters didn't do work early, this could easily be a blowout already.

[Johnny RIngo]

Diaw -16
DeColo -12

[LakerHater]

Nooo Tony!!

[crc21209]

Fucking Tony ruined that fast break HORRIBLY....

[ElNono]

Paging Tony Parker...

[timvp]

Barnes having the half of his life defensively.

[DPG21920]

Spurs are more prone to nasty droughts than any other top team seemingly. It's scary how the well dries up in quarters often. Probably has to do with the overall talent level - Spurs don't have that take over star that can do things on his own when things go bad on a consistent basis.

[TE]

smh

[DatBoyGood]

wtf blair?

[BatManu20]

Lol at Blair's horrible touch around the rim.

[timvp]

Those flip shots used to be money for Blair. WTF happened.

[Russ]

Spurs are more prone to nasty droughts than any other top team seemingly.

That's because you're a Spurs fan.

[TheSkeptic]

Where's Derek Fishface?

Are you insane? After .04 I will never cheer for that guy.
Besides, we already have Gary Neal.

[Paranoid Pop]

Defensive clinic tbh.

[crc21209]

Fucking Clippers, going for the injury of course...

[LakerHater]

WoW

[timvp]

Within 5. Dats all I ax.

[Boomersgold]

Are you insane? After .04 I will never cheer for that guy.
Besides, we already have Gary Neal.

Gary Neal and Patty Mills are better than Old-man-Fisher. Our bench is one of the deepest in the league. Teams like the Blazers would kill to have bench players nearly as good as ours.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Truly pathetic 2nd Q.

Still, I think we'll come out a different team in the second half.

[ElNono]

shit.. 4-6 weeks for jack

[ace3g]

JAX... 4-6 weeks...

[crc21209]

4-6 weeks? WTF?!?!?!?!

[DPG21920]

That's because you're a Spurs fan.

Perhaps, but I watch a lot of non-Spurs basketball as well. Spurs are a pretty extreme team - they have scorching hot games, then burn the tape. But you could be right.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

4-6 weeks with out jack smfh!!!!!!

[siraulo23]

shit jax out

[timvp]

Jackson out 4-to-6 weeks :pctoss :pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss

[HI-FI]

pffttt...Jax injury...

[Mugen]

Goddamnit Jack out 4-6 weeks

[TE]

Wow bad news on SJAX

[crc21209]

Well, we're officially fucked until Kawhi comes back on December 1st (Hopefully).

[DatBoyGood]

did they say jackson out 4 to 6 weeks?!

[ElNono]

time to put somebody that gives a shit about defending on CP3...

[LakerHater]

Jax out 4 to 6 weeks

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs are more prone to nasty droughts than any other top team seemingly. It's scary how the well dries up in quarters often. Probably has to do with the overall talent level - Spurs don't have that take over star that can do things on his own when things go bad on a consistent basis.

It doesn't help that Parker/Ginobili have been off to a pretty horrid start this season forcing bench players to try to do more than they're capable of

[024]

trade duncan to the heat, tank the season!!!11!1!

[LakerHater]

Non-displaced fracture, proximal phalanx, right little finger for Jzx

[DPG21920]

That was phenomenal defense by TP on CP3 right there.

[capek]

Not Jax too! :(

[crc21209]

:lol Clippers ball MY ASS.......

[ElNono]

bs call

[TE]

lmao

[DPG21920]

:lmao

[BatManu20]

Lol Blair