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DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 03:28 PM
:lmao you have been defending it for two pages.

Wow, you really are that obtuse. Holy shit.

Drachen
11-27-2012, 03:28 PM
(This conversation has gotten dumb, but here goes).

I've heard Nevada referred to as West Coast, not the other two (but I also haven't had very many conversations involving Montana or Idaho :lol). Like I said, the term isn't used literally at all, at least in AZ. For whatever reason the term West Coast is used when Southwest would make more sense for Nevada or Arizona. A lot of it probably has to do with people associating SW with desert, NW with snow and mountains, so a state like Arizona or Utah that has a lot of desert but also a lot of mountains and skiing isn't universally labeled as NW or SW so people lazily call it West Coast.

I agree that it is dumb, but I was curious.


This is the world of the West Coast basketball conference too, right? They clearly don't have a problem associating Utah with the "West Coast" label.

I wouldn't use college conferences as a good indicator of geographical regions unless you want to defend Louisiana and California being in the same geographical region.

With that, I am done with the regional conversation. Thank you for enlightening me, I would have probably attributed Utah to the Rockies or something like that, but I have never really thought about it.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Thank you for enlightening me, I would have probably attributed Utah to the Rockies or something like that, but I have never really thought about it.
Prior to this, I hadn't either :lol

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 03:30 PM
God help anyone that actually lets DoK invest their money.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 03:36 PM
I agree that it is dumb, but I was curious.



I wouldn't use college conferences as a good indicator of geographical regions unless you want to defend Louisiana and California being in the same geographical region.

With that, I am done with the regional conversation. Thank you for enlightening me, I would have probably attributed Utah to the Rockies or something like that, but I have never really thought about it.

The Rocky Mountains are in some of the North of Utah but they are not the settled areas of the region. You may or may not recall the tales of all the men dying during the Mormon's crossing and thus the need for polygamy. Utah is in the western Pacific basin west of the rockies and like all of the other states that fit that bill, are sometimes referred to as west coast.

From a transportation and possibly migratory standpoint, the region could be considered semi-homogenous from an economic standpoint.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 03:39 PM
God help anyone that actually lets DoK invest their money.

I was a cubicle boy and now I'm investing people's money. Glad to see I'm moving up in the world.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 03:42 PM
The Rocky Mountains are in some of the North of Utah but they are not the settled areas of the region. You may or may not recall the tales of all the men dying during the Mormon's crossing and thus the need for polygamy. Utah is in the western Pacific basin west of the rockies and like all of the other states that fit that bill, are sometimes referred to as west coast.

From a transportation and possibly migratory standpoint, the region could be considered semi-homogenous from an economic standpoint.

:lmao


link that says Utah is considered west coast?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 03:44 PM
I was a cubicle boy and now I'm investing people's money. Glad to see I'm moving up in the world.

Oh you haven't done shit yet. You will probably just end up as a cubicle boy on the commercial banking side because they normally only move the smart ones to the investment banking side.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 03:59 PM
:lol this thread has gotten you so angry. Your disgust with me is seething through my computer screen.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 04:00 PM
:lol this thread has gotten you so angry. It's seething through my computer screen.

:lmao

Don't humor yourself. I'm not angry at all. I just recognize you for the ankle biting idiot that you are.

Homeland Security
11-27-2012, 04:21 PM
That'd be awesome. Then all the terrorists that hate us would focus on destroying Israel.
I don't think the terrorists' ideology with regard to the United States can be reduced to the Israel question. I also think governments in the region would be under enormous pressure from their people to take actions against Israel they don't want to take. Whether they do or don't, the massive instability caused either by social unrest (if they don't act) or massive Israeli retaliation (if they do) would disrupt oil production. That would have global impact, but disproportionately so in Europe, who relies on Arab oil much more than the U.S. does. Certainly the last thing Europe needs right now is an oil shock. Global leaders are working very, very hard to stop a European crack-up which would put the post-WWII order to an end. Once the lid pops off, you don't know where things are going to end up or how bad they're going to get. We take the last 67 years of peace in Western Europe for granted.

I think if the UN had a magic time machine where it could turn the clock back to 1947, very different decisions might be made, but of course it can't do that and instead has to deal with the present reality.

LnGrrrR
11-27-2012, 04:24 PM
Perhaps you're right about that HS. I know that EU is leery about Muslim immigration in certain countries too. Still, I sometimes think that forcing the countries in the ME to "grow up" might be preferable to us having to play counselor/babysitter/guardian.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 05:00 PM
:lmao


link that says Utah is considered west coast?

link? for someone as old as you are you certainly act like a child.

People sometimes merge the great basin and west coast regions. While you are fixating on the semantics of a label it's not lost on me that you started this bait and switch because you had no leg to stand on in the initial discussion.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 05:05 PM
Perhaps you're right about that HS. I know that EU is leery about Muslim immigration in certain countries too. Still, I sometimes think that forcing the countries in the ME to "grow up" might be preferable to us having to play counselor/babysitter/guardian.

That's a very nice way of describing the enmity that Mediterranean European states regard muslim immigrants. The French are especially lovable regarding the issue.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 05:13 PM
link? for someone as old as you are you certainly act like a child.

People sometimes merge the great basin and west coast regions. While you are fixating on the semantics of a label it's not lost on me that you started this bait and switch because you had no leg to stand on in the initial discussion.

I was doing just fine in the previous discussion. This one is just more fun watching you two idiots flounder around and try to validate that somehow Utah is west coast.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 05:19 PM
I was doing just fine in the previous discussion. This one is just more fun watching you two idiots flounder around and try to validate that somehow Utah is west coast.

Posturing is your MO lately. Typical.

Is? You completely lack nuance. And apparently reading comprehension. I said:


The Rocky Mountains are in some of the North of Utah but they are not the settled areas of the region. You may or may not recall the tales of all the men dying during the Mormon's crossing and thus the need for polygamy. Utah is in the western Pacific basin west of the rockies and like all of the other states that fit that bill, are sometimes referred to as west coast.

Need me to hold your hand through the grammar?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 05:24 PM
Posturing is your MO lately. Typical.

Is? You completely lack nuance. And apparently reading comprehension. I said:



Need me to hold your hand through the grammar?

Not at all. Post a link to someone that says Utah is West coast. Anyone, really, besides you and DoK.

And you clearly don't know a fucking thing about Utah...


The Rocky Mountains are in some of the North of Utah but they are not the settled areas of the region.

:lmao

Salt Lake City is surrounded by mountains and ski areas. They even had the winter olympics there, dumbass.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Trivia question:

What West Coast city hosted the winter olympics? :lmao

Homeland Security
11-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Perhaps you're right about that HS. I know that EU is leery about Muslim immigration in certain countries too. Still, I sometimes think that forcing the countries in the ME to "grow up" might be preferable to us having to play counselor/babysitter/guardian.
If they didn't have lots of the black juice that makes the world go 'round, the West would care about their affairs in the same way it cares about Mali's affairs.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 05:33 PM
Trivia question:

What West Coast city hosted the winter olympics? :lmao
Squaw Valley, CA in 1960

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 05:36 PM
Squaw Valley, CA in 1960

Actually, Vancouver is a lot more west coast than Squaw Valley. Sure as hell wasn't Salt Lake City :lmao

Homeland Security
11-27-2012, 05:40 PM
West Coast: California, Oregon, Washington
Southwest: Arizona, New Mexico
(Intermountain) West: Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Nevada, Utah, Colorado

The West includes the Great Basin and all ranges of the Rocky Mountains east to the Front Range. Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana also include the westernmost portions of the Great Plains.

The Wasatch Range of the Rocky Mountains dominates the view east from Salt Lake City.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 05:40 PM
Actually, Vancouver is a lot more west coast than Squaw Valley. Sure as hell wasn't Salt Lake City :lmao

So then what exactly is your point if a West Coast City has hosted the Winter Olympics before?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 05:50 PM
So then what exactly is your point if a West Coast City has hosted the Winter Olympics before?

Based on your previous argument Salt Lake City would have qualified. Glad you understand now it's not West Coast. Maybe you can convince Fuzzynuts now.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 05:52 PM
Not at all. Post a link to someone that says Utah is West coast. Anyone, really, besides you and DoK.

And you clearly don't know a fucking thing about Utah...



:lmao

Salt Lake City is surrounded by mountains and ski areas. They even had the winter olympics there, dumbass.

What's sad is that a ski trip there makes you think you are an expert on the region.

Is the majority of Utah mountainous or part of the Great Basin?

Also point to me where i said that I considered Utah to be West Coast?

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 05:54 PM
Utah does have a program they call the West Coast Initiative whose goal is to bring jobs from California to Utah.

Spurminator
11-27-2012, 05:55 PM
I can't comment on this discussion until I know if SLC was ever given a shout-out on any 90's "West Side" hip-hop tracks.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 05:59 PM
Utah does have a program they call the West Coast Initiative whose goal is to bring jobs from California to Utah.

So does Texas. Does that make us West Coast too?

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:02 PM
I am still waiting for you to justify your claim that I said utah was West Coast. From reviewing the thread neither did DoK but you are just intent on this derail. You don't have anything worthwhile to say as per usual so I guess you have to say something.

Is the majority of Utah mountainous or in the Great Basin?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:03 PM
What's sad is that a ski trip there makes you think you are an expert on the region.

Is the majority of Utah mountainous or part of the Great Basin?

Also point to me where i said that I considered Utah to be West Coast?

From a transportation and possibly migratory standpoint, the region could be considered semi-homogenous from an economic standpoint.


The Rocky Mountains are in some of the North of Utah but they are not the settled areas of the region. *You may or may not recall the tales of all the men dying during the Mormon's crossing and thus the need for polygamy. *Utah is in the western Pacific basin west of the rockies and like all of the other states that fit that bill, are sometimes referred to as west coast.


:lmao

owned

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:05 PM
I am still waiting. You really think that your bolded statement is me calling the state west coast?

Homeland Security
11-27-2012, 06:09 PM
The Western Pacific Basin includes Japan and the Philippines. I don't think Utah is quite that far west.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:11 PM
I am still waiting. You really think that your bolded statement is me calling the state west coast?

Yes, your bolded statement is you calling Utah West Coast.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:14 PM
Yes, your bolded statement is you calling Utah West Coast.

I said it was sometimes called that. I never said that I called it that. Can you understand the difference?

Given the flow of the discussion, me choosing that 'sometimes' phrasing instead of an identity and a little bit of critical thinking and you should be able to tell.

Can you show where DoK did?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:16 PM
Since you still don't seem to understand I will try pictures.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Aerial_Photo_of_Santa_Monica_Pier.jpg/800px-Aerial_Photo_of_Santa_Monica_Pier.jpg

West Coast

http://lodging4vacations.com/deer-valley-vacation-rental/1-deer-valley-ski-resort2.jpg

Not West Coast

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:24 PM
I said it was sometimes called that. I never said that I called it that. Can you understand the difference?

You tried to justify you and DoK's position of calling SLC West Coast by saying that "some" call it West Coast and refused to provide a single link to back up your bullshit position

Given the flow of the discussion, me choosing that 'sometimes' phrasing instead of an identity and a little bit of critical thinking and you should be able to tell.

My critical thinking appears to be working a hell of a lot better than yours

Can you show where DoK did?

Sure


:lol thinking usage of the term "West Coast" is taking a position.

The commissioner of the West Coast conference seems to share my opinion.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/conferences/standings/_/id/29/year/2013/west-coast-conference

You better let him know how stupid he looks for BYU being in the West Coast Conference :lmao:lmao:lmao

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:31 PM
Claiming that I said that to support MY argument? That's a circular argument. I am still waiting for the part where I said it was West Coast. You know a quote that is self contained indicating that.

Me saying that I understand where it being called that comes from ie that it is mosty the great basin that leads to the coast does not mean that I myself would call it that. Your critical thinking sucks as i have to hold your hand through what should be simple logic.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:41 PM
Claiming that I said that to support MY argument? That's a circular argument. I am still waiting for the part where I said it was West Coast. You know a quote that is self contained indicating that.

Me saying that I understand where it being called that comes from ie that it is mosty the great basin that leads to the coast does not mean that I myself would call it that. Your critical thinking sucks as i have to hold your hand through what should be simple logic.

OK, show me a link from ANYONE on the internet besides you and DoK that calls Utah West Coast.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:43 PM
*Utah is in the western Pacific basin west of the rockies and like all of the other states that fit that bill, are sometimes referred to as west coast.

Those were YOUR words. They weren't someone else's words.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:46 PM
Yeah and you clearly suck at grammar and critical thinking. Saying something is sometimes called something particular is not the same as calling something in particular in and of itself. This is why I say you lack nuance. There is a difference between the two even if you are too stupid to discern it.

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:50 PM
Yeah and you clearly suck at grammar and critical thinking. Saying something is sometimes called something particular is not the same as calling something in particular in and of itself. This is why I say you lack nuance. There is a difference between the two even if you are too stupid to discern it.

I gave you the perfect out you stupid bitch. Find one other person on the WWW besides you and DoK that calls Salt Lake City "West Coast"...:lol

Prove "some of those people" that exist in your fuzzy little head really exist.

mouse
11-27-2012, 06:50 PM
Since you still don't seem to understand I will try pictures.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Aerial_Photo_of_Santa_Monica_Pier.jpg/800px-Aerial_Photo_of_Santa_Monica_Pier.jpg

West Coast

http://lodging4vacations.com/deer-valley-vacation-rental/1-deer-valley-ski-resort2.jpg

Not West Coast

:lmao

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:52 PM
That's a red herring so who gives a shit. You still suck at grammar.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 06:54 PM
http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/20/2097/G9P2D00Z/posters/rob-blakers-snow-covered-mountain-in-sierra-nevada-california-usa.jpg

Where do you think this picture is from?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 06:58 PM
That's a red herring so who gives a shit. You still suck at grammar.

:lmao

You can pull the price tags off, bitch. You just got owned.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 07:03 PM
So is that your closing argument? This posturing? i know you put a lot of stock into unsubstantiated premises but just because I choose not to participate in your false choice does not justify your position.

What i want to know is do you still think that "Utah is sometimes referred to as West Coast" means that I call Utah West Coast? Oh and that picture I posted: where do you think it was taken?

CosmicCowboy
11-27-2012, 07:07 PM
So is that your closing argument? This posturing? i know you put a lot of stock into unsubstantiated premises but just because I choose not to participate in your false choice does not justify your position.

What i want to know is do you still think that "Utah is sometimes referred to as West Coast" means that I call Utah West Coast? Oh and that picture I posted: where do you think it was taken?

Just outside Sequoia National Park dumbass. It's actually in California. Last time I checked Salt Lake City was still two states over. Not West Coast. So when are your imaginary friends that think Salt Lake City is west coast going to chime in?

FuzzyLumpkins
11-27-2012, 07:21 PM
Just outside Sequoia National Park dumbass. It's actually in California. Last time I checked Salt Lake City was still two states over. Not West Coast. So when are your imaginary friends that think Salt Lake City is west coast going to chime in?

So posting pictures of snowy mountains proves what?

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Based on your previous argument Salt Lake City would have qualified. Glad you understand now it's not West Coast. Maybe you can convince Fuzzynuts now.

Yes, I knew all along Salt Lake isn't technically on the West Coast. Didn't deny that.

I think we both know, the point of my original post was that I plan on working in the Western part of the US which doesn't require a suit to work everyday. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

ElNono
11-27-2012, 07:25 PM
relevant article:

Financial Times: Drove of Wall Street bankers apply for plumbing licenses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)

LnGrrrR
11-27-2012, 07:26 PM
Yes, I knew all along Salt Lake isn't technically on the West Coast. Didn't deny that.

I think we both know, the point of my original post was that I plan on working in the Western part of the US which doesn't require a suit to work everyday. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Expect descriptions of jobs that originate in the West Coast and require suits.

CuckingFunt
11-27-2012, 07:27 PM
The fuck is this thread on about?

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Expect descriptions of jobs that originate in the West Coast and require suits.
Those are few and far between in my experience. The people I know who work in LA say they never have to wear suits.

Clipper Nation
11-27-2012, 07:45 PM
:cry "My lame 'DOK: Cubicle Boy' schtick isn't working, so now I have to derail this thread with semantics!" :cry

:lol CosmicCowboy

Wild Cobra
11-28-2012, 03:28 AM
:lmao

owned
He still won't get it. He's too ignorant to realize how often he's owned.

Wild Cobra
11-28-2012, 03:31 AM
I said it was sometimes called that. I never said that I called it that. Can you understand the difference?

LOL...

You try to engage into reverse, and still fail!

Is your transmission broken too?

Wild Cobra
11-28-2012, 03:32 AM
Since you still don't seem to understand I will try pictures.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Aerial_Photo_of_Santa_Monica_Pier.jpg/800px-Aerial_Photo_of_Santa_Monica_Pier.jpg

West Coast

http://lodging4vacations.com/deer-valley-vacation-rental/1-deer-valley-ski-resort2.jpg

Not West Coast
Nice pics, but aren't you spinning your wheels trying to educate The Fuzzy Troll?

lakerhaterade
11-28-2012, 03:33 AM
quality thread

Winehole23
02-19-2015, 01:28 PM
In a move that could alter the minimum wage debate and improve the image of the world's largest retailer, Walmart announced it will raise the baseline wage of its current store employees to $10 per hour, bringing pay hikes to an estimated 500,000 workers.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/walmart-wage-raise_n_6712316.html

boutons_deux
02-19-2015, 02:15 PM
$10 x 2000 = $20K/year, still poverty, Walmart still getting taxpayers to top up Walmart employees salaries.

Repugs, VRWC, tea baggers must be really pissed at Walmart for taking from investors and giving to moochers, losers, takers, welfare cheats.

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2015/02/19/wal-mart-quarterly-profit-rises-12-nytimesbusi/