There is no God and I can prove it.....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Would this country ever elect one of those super intelligent atheists who don't play that religious bullshit? How come we keep electing stupid fucks who do believe?

How come every other 1st world country in the world is secular?

lol still using an appeal to popularity

[Blake]

Would this country ever elect one of those super intelligent atheists who don't play that religious bullshit? How come we keep electing stupid fucks who do believe?

Because we have a lot of dumbfucks in this country that are as dumb as you.

I sometimes wonder how we can be the dumbest country on earth, and then you start another thread and I understand.

[Avante]

Unlike you (Mr. Clean) that brings so much to a topic. Your nothing more than a glorified koriwhat or Avante the only difference is you have a larger post count.

You rather spend your time attacking my lame as humor instead of bringing some evidence or substance to a topic that will showcase your online skills.

Dude, I usually ignore your dumbass, be cool little one. ok?

[redzero]

:lol You completely fail to make a point. This country won't elect an atheist? So what? That doesn't make taking on a belief system for no logical reason, any less stupid.

You absolutely suck at this and your points are laughable.

In before Avante uses the "I can sound stupid because this discussion is about religion" excuse.

[Avante]

:lol You completely fail to make a point. This country won't elect an atheist? So what? That doesn't make taking on a belief system for no logical reason, any less stupid.

You absolutely suck at this and your points are laughable.

In before Avante uses the "I can sound stupid because this discussion is about religion" excuse.

As usual you fail to understand anything. Don't ignore the question, why would we never elect an atheist? How come we must have a believer in the White House?

One more time.....

Hell no you can't explain religion using logic......no duh!!!!!!!!!!!! Locically speaking it makes no sense at all.....no duh!!!!!!!!! Do you really think anyone can prove the existence of God? Of course not! This is that one situation where all that goes out the window, we simply go with it and fuck reasoning and logic, you really haven't figure that out by now? Amazing!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol You completely fail to make a point. This country won't elect an atheist? So what? That doesn't make taking on a belief system for no logical reason, any less stupid.

You absolutely suck at this and your points are laughable.

In before Avante uses the "I can sound stupid because this discussion is about religion" excuse.

Or the, "Do you think you're smarter than the billions of people who believe in god???" appeal to popularity.

[DMC]

Avante's method for life, don't think about it just go with it. If you think about it later, you'll probably get fat and post lots of youtube videos online as you regret your entire life.

You do realize that Avante, Mouse and Cosmored have the exact same excuse troll schtick where they propose illogical things and defend them with flawed reasoning, right?

[redzero]

This entire topic in a nutshell:

Avante: Billions of people believe in God, so he must exist!
me or DoK: Appeal to popularity logical fallacy.
Avante: Lots of people smarter than you believe in God, so he must exist!
me or DoK: Appeal to authority logical fallacy.
Avante: America won't elect an atheist, therefore <insert whatever stupid point Avante was trying to make>
me or DoK: So?
Avante: Well, my points don't have to make sense because we are talking about religion! Of course, I still think these are good points, even though they are fallacious, so I'll keep posting them anyway.

[Avante]

Avante's method for life, don't think about it just go with it. If you think about it later, you'll probably get fat and post lots of youtube videos online as you regret your entire life.

You do realize that Avante, Mouse and Cosmored have the exact same excuse troll schtick where they propose illogical things and defend them with flawed reasoning, right?

Then there's reality....

I know lots of people who dont believe and lots that do. Those that do are far more content with things. I've seen drunks/dopers find God and totally turn their life around. I 've watched old people die totally content because of their faith in God. I can't see any negatives in believing in God, it's so easy and makes you feel better about things. Couldn't care less about ...prove it huh huh huh???....that's for losers. This county believes in God, they do that for a reason, it feels good. Like anything there will always be those idiots who don't get it.

[redzero]

^ Oh, I forgot to add your use of anecdotes as facts.

You are a textbook example on how not to make an argument. ALL of your points are logically flawed, which is amazing.

[Avante]

This entire topic in a nutshell:

Avante: Billions of people believe in God, so he must exist!
me or DoK: Appeal to popularity logical fallacy.
Avante: Lots of people smarter than you believe in God, so he must exist!
me or DoK: Appeal to authority logical fallacy.
Avante: America won't elect an atheist, therefore <insert whatever stupid point Avante was trying to make>
me or DoK: So?
Avante: Well, my points don't have to make sense because we are talking about religion! Of course, I still think these are good points, even though they are fallacious, so I'll keep posting them anyway.

Avante...why do most people believe in God?
you...don['t know.
Avante...why have we always had religious beliefs?
you...idiots!
Anante....you gain what by not believing?
you...nothing.
Avante...you do know about all those who turned their life around once they came to God, right?
you...weaklings.
Avante...I pity you.
you...I'm logical
Avante...sad but logical.

[redzero]

Avante...why do most people believe in God?
you...don['t know.
Avante...why have we always had religious beliefs?
you...idiots!
Anante....you gain what by not believing?
you...nothing.
Avante...you do know about all those who turned their life around once they came to God, right?
you...weaklings.
Avante...I pity you.
you...I'm logical
Avante...sad but logical.

:lol Completely wrong, as usual.

[Avante]

^ Oh, I forgot to add your use of anecdotes as facts.

You are a textbook example on how not to make an argument. ALL of your points are logically flawed, which is amazing.

Ok then slick, prove there is no God. I need proof! Talk me out of it.

[mouse]

Please stop.

Say pretty please.

[redzero]

Ok then slick, prove there is no God. I need proof! Talk me out of it.

:lol And now you are shifting the burden of proof.

Here, you desperately need this: http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/pdf/FallaciesPoster24x36.pdf

Now, look over this .pdf and make a point that isn't logically fallacious or an anecdote. If you can't, then stop posting about this matter, because you are only embarrassing yourself.

[mouse]

Dude, I usually ignore your dumbass, be cool little one. ok?

What do you consider little?

[mouse]

You're just making an ugly mess here.

Stop crapping in topics you know nothing about. And I wont step in your shit.

[Wild Cobra]

This seems like a senseless argument to me. Why do you guys keep it up? Do you like to bicker?

[Avante]

:lol And now you are shifting the burden of proof.

Here, you desperately need this: http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/pdf/FallaciesPoster24x36.pdf

Now, look over this .pdf and make a point that isn't logically fallacious or an anecdote. If you can't, then stop posting about this matter, because you are only embarrassing yourself.

Embarrasing is trying to talk logic and God, yet you STILL can't seem to figure that out.

I'll go really really slow. pay attention...

LOGIC DOESN'T APPLY,OK?????????


Let me guess, zooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmm...righ t over your head as usual.

Far more are like me than like you, thank God.

I do a kick out of how you think you're some great debater, only a fool would think you could apply logic to religion, you are a fool.

[Avante]

Stop crapping in topics you know nothing about. And I wont step in your shit.

Little freak does nothing but that.

[Avante]

What do you consider little?

The size of your brain.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Hey Avante, maybe god can help you make better football picks

:lmao 2-5
:lmao avoiding the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ thread like your fatass avoids the salad bar

[silverblk mystix]

God or no god...

this thread is now 10 pages- I will probably say that Avante is smarter than redzero faggot because the little faggot is still chasing Avante around....:lmao


As if redzerohomo will ever prove or disprove anything...

[Avante]

Hey Avante, maybe god can help you make better football picks

:lmao 2-5
:lmao avoiding the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ thread like your fatass avoids the salad bar

I have never hung around in that thread during the games, you've never noticed that? No worries mate, lot of football left.

Time tested methods!

[Blake]

Say pretty please.

naw, please is enough.

If you really want to run around with your pants around your ankles shooting out steams of hot liquid shit, then you are going to no matter how nicely anyone suggests you stop.

[Avante]

God or no god...

this thread is now 10 pages- I will probably say that Avante is smarter than redzero faggot because the little faggot is still chasing Avante around....:lmao


As if redzerohomo will ever prove or disprove anything...

Hard to believe isn't it? A little shit playing..."it's not logical to believe in God"..hahahaha!!!!!!!! The dummy just can't figure it out......FAITH!!!!!!!

Nobody can prove shit. I do get a kick out of the boy however, stupid but funny.

[mouse]

Anyone who thinks there no designer hold your breath for over 4 minutes and hopefully find out tonight.


http://www.facebook.com/MITnews

[redzero]

:lmao Avante is such a dishonest little bitch. He brings up religion all the time, then acts like he doesn't want to talk about it.

Avante, if you truly believe that logic doesn't apply to religion, THEN STOP TALKING ABOUT RELIGION. Stop trying to make arguments for why one should believe in God, then hiding behind that excuse of yours when your arguments are shown to be terrible.

Pick a side: either follow through with your arguments or don't talk about religion. Stop being a hypocritical pussy.

[mouse]

The size of your brain.

You know how much of the human brain is used?

[mouse]

naw, please is enough.

If you really want to run around with your pants around your ankles

Say where and when and bring your rusty banjo


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shooting out steams of hot liquid shit, then you are going to no matter how nicely anyone suggests you stop.[/QUOTE]

[Avante]

:lmao Avante is such a dishonest little bitch. He brings up religion all the time, then acts like he doesn't want to talk about it.

Avante, if you truly believe that logic doesn't apply to religion, THEN STOP TALKING ABOUT RELIGION. Stop trying to make arguments for why one should believe in God, then hiding behind that excuse of yours when your arguments are shown to be terrible.

Pick a side: either follow through with your arguments or don't talk about religion. Stop being a hypocritical pussy.

I hate to break it to ya like this but I don't need your approval, honest! I'll talk about whatever I want, who the fuck are you to tell me what I can do? Yep, nobody!

I like believing in God obviously most people do, ya reckon? Be a little scrooge nobody cares. Be logical, while others bask in His glory.

[Avante]

You know how much of the human brain is used?

Obviously we don't all use the same %.

[mouse]

Obviously we don't all use the same %.

Then Divide your findings by 2 and you have your findings..

an empty box with many holes.

[redzero]

I hate to break it to ya like this but I don't need your approval, honest! I'll talk about whatever I want, who the fuck are you to tell me what I can do? Yep, nobody!

I like believing in God obviously most people do, ya reckon? Be a little scrooge nobody cares. Be logical, while others bask in His glory.

Then, stick to your arguments. Stop trying to copout when your arguments are dismantled.

[Avante]

Then Divide your findings by 2 and you have your findings..

an empty box with many holes.

Actually your logic is flawed, you failed to take into consideration the size of the box involved. Obviously the larger the box the less holes. Simply logical.

[DMC]

Then there's reality....

I know lots of people who dont believe and lots that do. Those that do are far more content with things.

If you don't realize just how fucking stupid that sounds no one here can help you. Content with pretending to know things is either lazy or delusional. If everyone were like that, there would be no new discoveries.


I've seen drunks/dopers find God and totally turn their life around. No you haven't. You said yourself that no one can prove a God exists ergo you cannot find what cannot be proven to exist. How then did you see someone find God? You saw them switch their addiction to Jesus from drugs. Now they are more fucking annoying than ever. Nothing is worse than reformed druggies turned Jesus freaks.


I 've watched old people die totally content because of their faith in God. I can't see any negatives in believing in God, it's so easy and makes you feel better about things. Couldn't care less about ...prove it huh huh huh???....that's for losers. This county believes in God, they do that for a reason, it feels good. Like anything there will always be those idiots who don't get it.

Having invisible friends is considered a childhood thing, and when adults like John Nash do it, it's considered a mental disorder. You can say it doesn't hurt to believe in things that aren't real, but too bad you couldn't tell that to the Salem witches, those who died in the Crusades or the millions of people who've been raped and slaughtered because people believed in something that wasn't real.

You just cherry pick the flowery examples of benign outcomes and ignore the caustic history of religion itself. You're a retarded ass clown.

[DMC]

Actually your logic is flawed, you failed to take into consideration the size of the box involved. Obviously the larger the box the less holes. Simply logical.

Mouse/Cosmored shtick is used.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If you don't realize just how fucking stupid that sounds no one here can help you. Content with pretending to know things is either lazy or delusional. If everyone were like that, there would be no new discoveries.

No you haven't. You said yourself that no one can prove a God exists ergo you cannot find what cannot be proven to exist. How then did you see someone find God? You saw them switch their addiction to Jesus from drugs. Now they are more fucking annoying than ever. Nothing is worse than reformed druggies turned Jesus freaks.


Having invisible friends is considered a childhood thing, and when adults like John Nash do it, it's considered a mental disorder. You can say it doesn't hurt to believe in things that aren't real, but too bad you couldn't tell that to the Salem witches, those who died in the Crusades or the millions of people who've been raped and slaughtered because people believed in something that wasn't real.

You just cherry pick the flowery examples of benign outcomes and ignore the caustic history of religion itself. You're a retarded ass clown.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcxpdiBaHr1reixuno1_250.gif

[Avante]

Mouse/Cosmored shtick is used.

I need somenody elses shtick, hahahaha~~~~~~

Dude, you crack me up, not a brain in your fucking head.

[DMC]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcxpdiBaHr1reixuno1_250.gif

http://gifsoup.com/view/144758/flair-strut-o.gif

[Blake]

God or no god...

this thread is now 10 pages- I will probably say that Avante is smarter than redzero faggot because the little faggot is still chasing Avante around....:lmao


As if redzerohomo will ever prove or disprove anything...

You're more obsessed with Avante than anyone here

[Blake]

Actually your logic is flawed, you failed to take into consideration the size of the box involved. Obviously the larger the box the less holes. Simply logical.

that makes no sense.

The smarter you try to sound, the more sad I get for Mason.

[Avante]

http://gifsoup.com/view/144758/flair-strut-o.gif


http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/205795-1/Caught-fapping-angry.gif

[redzero]

God or no god...

this thread is now 10 pages- I will probably say that Avante is smarter than redzero faggot because the little faggot is still chasing Avante around....:lmao


As if redzerohomo will ever prove or disprove anything...

:lol dickriding Avante even though you disagree with him
:lol holds two year long e-grudges, then claims that other follow people around

[Avante]

If you don't realize just how fucking stupid that sounds no one here can help you. Content with pretending to know things is either lazy or delusional. If everyone were like that, there would be no new discoveries.

No you haven't. You said yourself that no one can prove a God exists ergo you cannot find what cannot be proven to exist. How then did you see someone find God? You saw them switch their addiction to Jesus from drugs. Now they are more fucking annoying than ever. Nothing is worse than reformed druggies turned Jesus freaks.


Having invisible friends is considered a childhood thing, and when adults like John Nash do it, it's considered a mental disorder. You can say it doesn't hurt to believe in things that aren't real, but too bad you couldn't tell that to the Salem witches, those who died in the Crusades or the millions of people who've been raped and slaughtered because people believed in something that wasn't real.

You just cherry pick the flowery examples of benign outcomes and ignore the caustic history of religion itself. You're a retarded ass clown.

Another long line of total bullshit, amazing!

Pay attention...

Nobody can prove anything having to do with is there a God. Most people don't give a shit about reasoning/logic, fuck that, they want a God in their life. Then we have the minority, those like you that are beyond stupid who have some need to..."can we see Him, huh huh huh?"..hahahaha!!!!!! Tell me amigo how come so few play that? Could it be because it sucks? Look at you, you're a fucking mess, a punk in hiding. You are a great example of those who don't get it. Yep, assholes!

[AussieFanKurt]

This viewpoint that you have that if heaps of people do/like it, it must be good is fucking ridiculous.. a fuck load of people like soccer.. do you also love that? Using your logic, you must because if you don't you're in the minority and are stupid

[Avante]

This viewpoint that you have that if heaps of people do/like it, it must be good is fucking ridiculous.. a fuck load of people like soccer.. do you also love that? Using your logic, you must because if you don't you're in the minority and are stupid

We live in a world that does believe, I prefer to believe. Give me a good reason not to believe. Do you think I'd be better off if I didn't? What harm/negative is there being a believer? My life would be better off if I didn't, how's that?

[SpursRock20]

We live in a world that does believe, I prefer to believe. Give me a good reason not to believe. Do you think I'd be better off if I didn't? What harm/negative is there being a believer? My life would be better off if I didn't, how's that?

Avante, just stop. Either you are trolling or you are stupid. Why are you asking for a reason not to believe when you already said believing in God requires no reason? Simple question

[Avante]

Avante, just stop. Either you are trolling or you are stupid. Why are you asking for a reason not to believe when you already said believing in God requires no reason? Simple question

I don't troll that's for dumbass kids in hiding.

Stupid is thinking anyone really cares what others think about .."YOUR"..religious beliefs. What's really stupid is thinking religion can be compared to our measly little level of comprehension. This is far beyond us.

Sad to watch these who..."but we can't prove anything"...hahaha!!!!!!!! We aren't suppose to be able to prove anything.

[SpursRock20]

We aren't suppose to be able to prove anything.

Then why ask for proof of the contrary?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Stupid is thinking anyone really cares what others think about.

Yet you keep using an appeal to authority and bringing up what others think.

[Avante]

Yet you keep using an appeal to authority and bringing up what others think.

It's like music, we are all influensed by what we heard. Without others I'd never have known about any God. I have seen enought to realize those who do believe are far better off than those who don't. I prefer to have a God in my life, you gain nothing by not having Him there.


N_lrrq_opng

You think these guys hide behind a computer screen talking shit?

[AussieFanKurt]

We live in a world that does believe, I prefer to believe. Give me a good reason not to believe. Do you think I'd be better off if I didn't? What harm/negative is there being a believer? My life would be better off if I didn't, how's that?

Who cares if the world believes... doesn't mean you just follow something blindly because others do. I don't know or care if you'd be better off but to say I am not as happy as you and an idiot because I'm in minority and don't follow blindly like you is moronic

[Avante]

Who cares if the world believes... doesn't mean you just follow something blindly because others do. I don't know or care if you'd be better off but to say I am not as happy as you and an idiot because I'm in minority and don't follow blindly like you is moronic

Apparently you really haven't been paying attention. I mentioned seeing the difference a God does make in others lives. I've watched dumb fucks like you come to God and how He changed things for them. I've seen old people content with death because of their faith in God. I've seen how God has turned things around. If you want to live in a world without Him in it, go for it. It's very obvious you are beyond help.

This story has been told many times.


CIvd9hhbAHA

[AussieFanKurt]

I was religious as a youth until I started asking questions and too many were left unanswered or answered poorly. I don't really have much wrong with god but man-made religion is a fucking joke. I tried having god in my life for many years, I tried and it did nothing and I am much happier now tbh, explain that mr high and mighty

[Wild Cobra]

I was religious as a youth until I started asking questions and too many were left unanswered or answered poorly. I don't really have much wrong with god but man-made religion is a fucking joke. I tried having god in my life for many years, I tried and it did nothing and I am much happier now tbh, explain that mr high and mighty
I've been trying to stay out of this, because it's one of those arguments that nobody can actually win. That said, I would off hand, trust anyone with religious values over an Atheist or Satan worshiper. I don't care if you believe in Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, Mother Earth, etc. Over my half century of memory, I have clearly noticed that those who believe we have a living spirit are statistically better people than those who don't.

[Avante]

I was religious as a youth until I started asking questions and too many were left unanswered or answered poorly. I don't really have much wrong with god but man-made religion is a fucking joke. I tried having god in my life for many years, I tried and it did nothing and I am much happier now tbh, explain that mr high and mighty

What if those questions you asked had of been answered? It appears you weren't in the best surroundings. You might think you're really happy without a God, a mistake a lot of people make.

Ever have to take a leak really really bad, so you hold it and hold it and hold it then finally......ahhhhhhhhhh. It's kinda like that, once you finally find Him, ahhhhhhhhh.

[Avante]

I've been trying to stay out of this, because it's one of those arguments that nobody can actually win. That said, I would off hand, trust anyone with religious values over an Atheist or Satan worshiper. I don't care if you believe in Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, Mother Earth, etc. Over my half century of memory, I have clearly noticed that those who believe we have a living spirit are statistically better people than those who don't.

There is no doubt in my life those I've come across with a God in their life are better off than those who don't. I don't care what anyone here says about it, like you I've seen it.

We tend to see more broken homes, crime, drug and alcohol abuse from those without a God. More dependent on the system to survive.

[Wild Cobra]

There is no doubt in my life those I've come across with a God in their life are better off than those who don't. I don't care what anyone here says about it, like you I've seen it.
But why argue about it with someone who's mind is set otherwise? You are just spinning your wheels.

[Avante]

But why argue about it with someone who's mind is set otherwise? You are just spinning your wheels.

Why do any of this do this at all? Trust me I'm not looking for...

Avante..there is a God
poster...you are so right Avante.
Avante..I'm bad to the bone.
poster...yes you are a badddd man.
Avante..I'm Gods gift to women
poster...hung like a horse!
Avante...Superman ain't got shit on me
poster...kyptonite wouldn't stand a chance

That would bore the hell out of me.

[Wild Cobra]

Why do any of this do this at all? Trust me I'm not looking for...

Avante..there is a God
poster...you are so right Avante.
Avante..I'm bad to the bone.
poster...yes you are a badddd man.
Avante..I'm Gods gift to women
poster...hung like a horse!
Avante...Superman ain't got shit on me
poster...kyptonite wouldn't stand a chance

That would bore the hell out of me.
Yes, we all do. However, the depth at which you all go at this, considering there is no solid proof either way, suggests you have nothing better to do. I think that's pretty sad.

[Avante]

Yes, we all do. However, the depth at which you all go at this, considering there is no solid proof either way, suggests you have nothing better to do. I think that's pretty sad.

I agree with that, that's why those who come here to do nothing but wimper/argue/criticize really do have it bad. I do make an effort to pull my weight and not have to be drug along by others. So many here are happy to just follow.

[AussieFanKurt]

I've been trying to stay out of this, because it's one of those arguments that nobody can actually win. That said, I would off hand, trust anyone with religious values over an Atheist or Satan worshiper. I don't care if you believe in Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, Mother Earth, etc. Over my half century of memory, I have clearly noticed that those who believe we have a living spirit are statistically better people than those who don't.

c'mon mate, you'd trust someone who worships mother earth or scientology over an atheist... surely not.

[Wild Cobra]

c'mon mate, you'd trust someone who worships mother earth or scientology over an atheist... surely not.
Absolutely.

I don't trust people who don't believe in having a soul.

Just how trustworthy do other people think you are?

Do bother answering. I don't expect it to be an honest one.

[AussieFanKurt]

Absolutely.

I don't trust people who don't believe in having a soul.

Just how trustworthy do other people think you are?

Do bother answering. I don't expect it to be an honest one.

Why is believing in a soul so important? I am sure there is a very fair share of people who believe in souls who are not trustworthy. I don't see how this belief makes anyone more trustworthy? I don't trust people unless given a reason to and I sure don't base it around belief of souls or religion, it's whether or not they earn my trust

[redzero]

Absolutely.

I don't trust people who don't believe in having a soul.

Just how trustworthy do other people think you are?

Do bother answering. I don't expect it to be an honest one.

How does believing in having a soul make one trustworthy?

[Wild Cobra]

How does believing in having a soul make one trustworthy?
Everything matters on the whole of the individual. My werds were meant in general. If you go back to my earlier words:

That said, I would off hand, trust anyone with religious values over an Atheist or Satan worshiper.
Saying "off hand," wasn't the best choice of words, but I meant this in the context of knowing little or nothing else about a person.

I have no doubt that I have a spirit. I would once say instead that I had no doubt that humans have a spirit. However, in recent years, I have become open to the possibility that some people are born without a soul, and that everyone who does have a soul has had one or more experiences that can be called spiritual. I believe it changes how we treat other people.

[AussieFanKurt]

Each to their own. At least your replies aren't littered with arrogance like avante thinking he is so much better than people without religion/god

[redzero]

What makes an atheist less trustworthy?

[Wild Cobra]

What makes an atheist less trustworthy?
It's my opinion. Just call it decades of experience.

[redzero]

It's my opinion. Just call it decades of experience.

On what are you basing this experience? What have you experienced? Are atheists more likely to commit crimes? To lie?

Your opinion isn't based on anything.

[Wild Cobra]

On what are you basing this experience? What have you experienced? Are atheists more likely to commit crimes? To lie?

Your opinion isn't based on anything.
Wow...

Are you that butthurt over my words?

No matter what I say, you will not believe me. My 50+ years of experience with other humans on this earth obviously have no merit to you. What compelling reason do I have to try to convince you of that my opinion is correct?

It is opinion...

Let it go, else you definitely are butthurt!

[Wild Cobra]

Zero;

Did you do this?

Religious statues beheaded at Portland Grotto (http://www.kgw.com/home/Religious-statues-beheaded-at-Portland-Grotto-181584961.html)

I have visited this Grotto. It is truly a sacred place. This was completely uncalled for.

[redzero]

:lol Yeah, I thought so. You're as laughable as Avante, since both of you post bullshit then hide behind the "It's just my opinion" excuse when called out.

[Wild Cobra]

:lol Yeah, I thought so. You're as laughable as Avante, since both of you post bullshit then hide behind the "It's just my opinion" excuse when called out.
WTF...

I am not going to waste my time recounting several dozen experience to prove a point to an asshole like you.

Tell me. Would you believe me anyway, or do you need me to find a link on the internet?

This is the same pointless BS I was speaking of earlier. It becomes a never ending argument. People like you are despicable, wanting to have someone prove opinion.

[redzero]

WTF...

I am not going to waste my time recounting several dozen experience to prove a point to an asshole like you.

Tell me. Would you believe me anyway, or do you need me to find a link on the internet?

This is the same pointless BS I was speaking of earlier. It becomes a never ending argument. People like you are despicable, wanting to have someone prove opinion.

:lol I'm despicable? You're the one letting your prejudices cloud your judgment, not me.

[Wild Cobra]

:lol I'm despicable? You're the one letting your prejudices cloud your judgment, not me.
We all have bias and discriminate on a daily basis. You are perverting what everyone does as wrong.

When everything else is equal, what do you use to discriminate between two people, items, etc?

[redzero]

We all have bias and discriminate on a daily basis. You are perverting what everyone does as wrong.

When everything else is equal, what do you use to discriminate between two people, items, etc?

There are valid an invalid reasons to treat somebody with suspicion. You haven't provided a single reason for why you are more suspicious of atheists, yet.

[Wild Cobra]

There are valid an invalid reasons to treat somebody with suspicion. You haven't provided a single reason for why you are more suspicious of atheists, yet.
I didn't know I need to. I don't feel like I need to.

I was thinking that maybe you have confused what I said with your bias of what you think I meant.

To clarify, I did say people who believe. I'm not talking about the individual who may be a Christin one day a week, but the people who actually practice. The people who actually have faith. Maybe you haven't been around such people much, but in general, there is a dramatic difference in how such people treat others, as opposed to those who who don't have faith.

[redzero]

Ah, nothing like the ol' No True Scotsman.

[CuckingFunt]

At least your replies aren't littered with arrogance

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[CuckingFunt]

WTF...

I am not going to waste my time recounting several dozen experience to prove a point to an asshole like you.

Tell me. Would you believe me anyway, or do you need me to find a link on the internet?

This is the same pointless BS I was speaking of earlier. It becomes a never ending argument. People like you are despicable, wanting to have someone prove opinion.

No one is expecting you to prove an opinion. I believe that you believe people with some sort of religious/spiritual faith are more trustworthy than people without. And I'm pretty sure everyone else here believes it to.

The problem comes in when you make statements which assert and/or suggest that your opinion is somehow based in fact. It's not.

Believe what you want to believe. Trust who you want to trust. You're entitled. But when those decisions are rooted in baseless prejudice, at least own up to it. Doing otherwise just makes you look like an idiot. And invites criticism when you're unable to back the claims you make as justification for your prejudice and intolerance.

[Blake]

I have clearly noticed that those who believe we have a living spirit are statistically better people than those who don't.

lol statistically better

[Blake]

Why do any of this do this at all? Trust me I'm not looking for...

Avante..there is a God
SBM...you are so right Avante.
Avante..I'm bad to the bone.
SBM...yes you are a badddd man.
Avante..I'm Gods gift to women
SBM...hung like a horse!
Avante...Superman ain't got shit on me
SBM..kyptonite wouldn't stand a chance

That would bore the hell out of me.

FIFY

[redzero]

Based on my years of experience on SpursTalk, I have come to the conclusion that Wild Cobra is a lying douche. It is statistically proven that the majority of his claims are bullshit.

[Blake]

Based on my years of experience on SpursTalk, I have come to the conclusion that Wild Cobra is a lying douche. It is statistically proven that the majority of his claims are bullshit.

3 out of 4 black surgeons agree

[Avante]

Each to their own. At least your replies aren't littered with arrogance like avante thinking he is so much better than people without religion/god


Most religious people have some standards they try to live up to, more so than non believers. So we are more likely to see crime from non believers, low morales type people.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao Wild Cobra saying religion means someone is more trustworthy.

There have been countless clergymen involved in ponzi schemes where they use their status as a preist to con people into investing. I've never seen someone use atheism as the backbone of a ponzi scheme, but several major ponzi schemes were made possible by god and religion.

[johnsmith]

Most religious people have some standards they try to live up to, more so than non believers. So we are more likely to see crime from non believers, low morales type people.

That's weird because most Hispanics I know are the most spiritual people if ever met.....and in another thread you talk about how much you hate them.....weird.

[resistanze]

I also wouldn't call shoving your dick up a child's ass as the most trustworthy action in the world.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I also wouldn't call shoving your dick up a child's ass as the most trustworthy action in the world.

:cry but they aren't allowed to get married :cry

[redzero]

Most religious people have some standards they try to live up to, more so than non believers. So we are more likely to see crime from non believers, low morales type people.

I would ask you if you have statistical evidence of this, but everybody here knows you are just talking out your ass.

[silverblk mystix]

If a man allows another man to ram a hard cock into their beloveds' va jay jay...I am pretty sure that cuck needs to check his moral compass and start believing in something...

or if he already does believe in something- he should stop believing it...


because that is one fucked up way to live!!!! :lmao


I won't mention any names *cough Blake *cough...:lmao


(emoticons were absolutely necessary)

[mouse]

Based on my years of experience on SpursTalk, I have come to the conclusion that Wild Cobra is a lying douche. It is statistically proven that the majority of his claims are bullshit.

post a link to this claim.

[redzero]

post a link to this claim.

That post went completely over your head.

[mouse]

Most religious people have some standards they try to live up to, more so than non believers. So we are more likely to see crime from non believers, low morales type people.

This person has a point. After all if you had a choice to move to a suburb of Christians or a neighborhood of City gangs and non church goers?

Stop the bullshit already you don't have to like a believer in God but at least give them props for trying to clean up this place and making efforts for this planet to someday be a better place to live.


It's like hating Mexicans but having no problems paying 50 dollars a month for lawn service.

You need the Bible thumpers on planet Earth your just to proud to admit it.

[mouse]

That post went completely over your head.


Which head?

[Blake]

If a man allows another man to ram a hard cock into their beloveds' va jay jay...I am pretty sure that cuck needs to check his moral compass and start believing in something...

or if he already does believe in something- he should stop believing it...


because that is one fucked up way to live!!!! :lmao


I won't mention any names *cough Blake *cough...:lmao


(emoticons were absolutely necessary)

Smh va jay jay

[mouse]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/mouse2222.jpg

[Avante]

I would ask you if you have statistical evidence of this, but everybody here knows you are just talking out your ass.

Don't get out much do ya slick? Maybe there are some stats on this, see what I can find. In my life time I'ver noticed it, can't believe you haven't.

Paste...
This book has two messages. First, religion reduces crime. Second, look what happens to scholars who say this is true.
The first argument rests on the work of Byron R. Johnson, a professor at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, who compiled a survey of every study between 1944 and 2010 that measured the possible effect of religion on crime. He found 273 such studies. As he reports in "More God, Less Crime," even though their authors used different methods and assessed different groups of people, 90% of these studies found that more religiosity resulted in less crime. Only 2% found that religion produced more crime. (The remaining 8% found no relationship either way.)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Obviously since there are more believers than non believers we have to go with %'s.

[redzero]

Don't get out much do ya slick? Maybe there are some stats on this, see what I can find. In my life time I'ver noticed it, can't believe you haven't.

Paste...
This book has two messages. First, religion reduces crime. Second, look what happens to scholars who say this is true.
The first argument rests on the work of Byron R. Johnson, a professor at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, who compiled a survey of every study between 1944 and 2010 that measured the possible effect of religion on crime. He found 273 such studies. As he reports in "More God, Less Crime," even though their authors used different methods and assessed different groups of people, 90% of these studies found that more religiosity resulted in less crime. Only 2% found that religion produced more crime. (The remaining 8% found no relationship either way.)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Obviously since there are more believers than non believers we have to go with %'s.

That provides no information on non-believers. It only compares degrees of religiosity.

Show me information that shows that believers (i.e., Christians, Muslims, etc.) are less likely to commit crimes. You made the stupid statement on no basis, now go back and find evidence that supports your assumption.

And I know that Avante will pull out the No True Scotsman fallacy very soon. He'll claim that all those Christians who commit crimes aren't true Christians, so he can cover his ass and qualify so much that he can't be proven wrong.

[AussieFanKurt]

Doctor Herbert Benson at Harvard University conducted a large-scale scientific study of intercessory prayer at six different American hospitals. The study showed--contrary to Benson's personal hopes--that intercessory prayer not only had no positive effect on cardiac patients but that patients who were told that someone would be praying for them actually experienced negative effects.

- Prayer may be dangerous to your health: On intercessory prayer, spirituality and bad science. Bjerrisgaard and Armin

I thought god helped though Avante

[Avante]

That provides no information on non-believers. It only compares degrees of religiosity.

Show me information that shows that believers (i.e., Christians, Muslims, etc.) are less likely to commit crimes. You made the stupid statement on no basis, now go back and find evidence that supports your assumption.

And I know that Avante will pull out the No True Scotsman fallacy very soon. He'll claim that all those Christians who commit crimes aren't true Christians, so he can cover his ass and qualify so much that he can't be proven wrong.

Who the fuck you talking to little fella? You don't tell me a damn thing punk. Use your fucking head dummy, don't religious people play by some rules as compared to non religious, well?

Did ya see the football game tonight? Dude gets hurt, so what do we see, his teammates (big bad dudes) on a knee heads bowed in prayer. Nobody playing this stupid..."can we see Him , huh huh huh?"

How about this moron....in my life I've noticed those into religion are far better adjusted to life and not as apt to get involved with crime.

Now add....(crime at the bottom)

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/12/why-religion-matters-even-more-the-impact-of-religious-practice-on-social-stability

[redzero]

Who the fuck you talking to little fella? You tell me a damn thing punk. Use your fucking head dummy, don't religious people play by some rules as compared to non religious, well?

The majority of people play by the rules, which are called laws. Those who don't might end up in prison, which is a much better deterrent than hell.

If what you claim is true and obvious, then post the statistics that support your claim. Show me the stats that indicate that theists are less likely to commit crimes than atheists and agnostics. Stop with the bullshit and post evidence.


Did ya see the football game tonight? Dude gets hurt, so what do e see, his teammates on a knee heads bowed in prayer. Nobody playing this stupid..."can we see Him , huh huh huh?"

Completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion. I would expect nothing less from you, because you love non-sequiturs.


How about this moron....in my life I've noticed those into religion are far better adjusted to life and not as apt to get involved with crime.

And here comes the No True Scotsman fallacy combined with yet another attempt to pass off anecdotes as real evidence. It also has nothing to do with your claim that believers are less likely to commit crimes than non-believers (i.e., atheists and agnostics).

Another instance of Avante being a dishonest douche who couldn't form a solid argument if his life depended on it. Of course, he'll post more non-sequiturs and anecdotes instead of actually providing evidence of his claims.

[Avante]

The majority of people play by the rules, which are called laws. Those who don't might end up in prison, which is a much better deterrent than hell.

If what you claim is true and obvious, then post the statistics that support your claim. Show me the stats that indicate that theists are less likely to commit crimes than atheists and agnostics. Stop with the bullshit and post evidence.



Completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion. I would expect nothing less from you, because you love non-sequiturs.



And here comes the No True Scotsman fallacy combined with yet another attempt to pass off anecdotes as real evidence. It also has nothing to do with your claim that believers are less likely to commit crimes than non-believers (i.e., atheists and agnostics).

Another instance of Avante being a dishonest douche who couldn't form a solid argument if his life depended on it. Of course, he'll post more non-sequiturs and anecdotes instead of actually providing evidence of his claims.

Ever talk to a cop?


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/12/why-religion-matters-even-more-the-impact-of-religious-practice-on-social-stability

[redzero]

Still waiting for Avante to provide proof that theists are less likely to commit crimes than atheists and agnostics. It will probably never happen, because he is too stupid to understand the distinction between not being religious and not believing at all.

[Avante]

Still waiting for Avante to provide proof that theists are less likely to commit crimes than atheists and agnostics. It will probably never happen, because he is too stupid to understand the distinction between not being religious and not believing at all.

Why not read the link?

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...cial-stability (http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/12/why-religion-matters-even-more-the-impact-of-religious-practice-on-social-stability)

Do you think at all? Those who spent Sunday in church are more likely to go out and commit crimes vs those who have no reason to abide by any morale set of laws? Ever heard of common sense? Dude, you ever leave the house?

[redzero]

Why not read the link?

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...cial-stability (http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/12/why-religion-matters-even-more-the-impact-of-religious-practice-on-social-stability)

That link discusses degrees of religiosity and doesn't mention non-believers at all. Since you are way too stupid and dishonest to understand my point, let's just drop this subject.

Instead, I'll ask you a question:

Which is better? Choosing not to commit heinous acts because one's own personal belief that committing crimes is wrong, or choosing not to commit heinous acts because someone else says that committing crimes is wrong?

[AussieFanKurt]

give up dude. there really is no point, he's so close minded its almost unbelievable, you can't have a proper debate with him because he's a troll/imbecile who always avoids points that refute his and he has no rebuttal for

[Avante]

That link degrees of religiosity and doesn't mention non-believers at all. Since you are way too stupid and dishonest to understand my point, let's just drop this subject.

Instead, I'll ask you a question:

Which is better? Choosing not to commit heinous acts because one's own personal belief that committing crimes is wrong, or choosing not to commit heinous acts because someone else says that committing crimes is wrong?

Didn't read it did ya dumbass? There are tons of similiar articles out there saying that exact same thing, I'll do the work for ya. It's pretty much....

Those who believe in a God are less likely to commit crimes when compared to those without a God in their life.

Are you telling me you didn't see that in that......oh yeah, you never read it. So why ask me to bring proof of things if you aren't going to read them? Want more?

What gets me is how you could not know this? It's actually common knowledge. Not too many Bible thumping crooks out there. You honestly are so fucking stupid you don't get that?

[Avante]

give up dude. there really is no point, he's so close minded its almost unbelievable, you can't have a proper debate with him because he's a troll/imbecile who always avoids points that refute his and he has no rebuttal for

Dude, how about the facts, will they work? Do you even have a clue at all about this, ya don't do ya? So why not just keep your big fucking mouth shut, ok?

[redzero]

I didn't see a single mention of NON-BELIEVERS in that link. Not a mention of atheists or agnostics. Again, since you are too stupid and dishonest to understand my request-even though I made my request quite clear several times--I would to drop the subject.

Now, please, answer my question from the previous post. Thanks in advance.

[AussieFanKurt]

I showed part of the abstract of an actual journal article where they found belief and prayer was negative and you didn't acknowledge it. Typical, instead you present some stupid google search website. Well done. The facts? Well I presented some.. but they don't work on you.. you can't see two sides of an argument, only yours.

[AussieFanKurt]

Catholic priests raping children and the church covering it up... what a nice thing to be apart of

[Avante]

I didn't see a single mention of NON-BELIEVERS in that link. Not a mention of atheists or agnostics. Again, since you are too stupid and dishonest to understand my request-even though I made my request quite clear several times--I would to drop the subject.

Now, please, answer my question from the previous post. Thanks in advance.

Are you for real? That piece made it very clear that without a God in your life.......right? So why play stupid ass games? Dude, you asked for proof, I brought it and can bring some more. Until you fess up and admit you read exactly what I was saying I'm not answering shit. Where's the common sense, think about it dummy.

[Avante]

I showed part of the abstract of an actual journal article where they found belief and prayer was negative and you didn't acknowledge it. Typical, instead you present some stupid google search website. Well done. The facts? Well I presented some.. but they don't work on you.. you can't see two sides of an argument, only yours.

Get the fuck out of here, tired of your bullshit. You post something it's the facts, I post something it's stupid.....fuck that. You suck asshole!

[redzero]

Are you for real? That piece made it very clear that without a God in your life.......right? So why play stupid ass games? Dude, you asked for proof, I brought it and can bring some more. Until you fess up and admit you read exactly what I was saying I'm not answering shit. Where's the common sense, think about it dummy.

I won't fess up to anything. I asked for proof that believers are less likely to commit crimes than non-believers, and you did not give me any. You are too stupid to understand my request, and you are a giant fucking hypocrite for bitching about somebody else not admitting something, even though you rarely, if ever, admit to being wrong on here, even though you are wrong almost all the time.

[AussieFanKurt]

Get the fuck out of here, tired of your bullshit. You post something it's the facts, I post something it's stupid.....fuck that. You suck asshole!

ahh the irony

[AussieFanKurt]

:lol

[Avante]

I won't fess up to anything. I asked for proof that believers are less likely to commit crimes than non-believers, and you did not give me any. You are too stupid to understand my request, and you are a giant fucking hypocrite for bitching about somebody else not admitting something, even you rarely if ever admit to be wrong on here, even though you are wrong almost all the time.

I haven't been wrong about anything so why lie? Go ahead what was I wrong about? I 'd love to see this? Prove it?

[Avante]

ahh the irony

Don't run that stupidity by me.

[AussieFanKurt]

Anyone who needs a deity to feel good about their life has serious problems, end of story

[AussieFanKurt]

Don't run that stupidity by me.

irony mate, lots of it

[redzero]

I haven't been wrong about anything so why lie? Go ahead what was I wrong about? I 'd love to see this? Prove it?

Easy. You were wrong about there being a bet between us, and you have never admitted that you were wrong. The closest you ever came to it was when you lied and claimed that you were trolling to save face (as you often do), then went back to still claiming that I lost a bet that never happened and that I should be gone.

[Avante]

Anyone who needs a deity to feel good about their life has serious problems, end of story

Anyone who believes that is beyond help and in the minority. Wake up little fella, you really aren't getting it at all.

[Avante]

Easy. You were wrong about there being a bet between us, and you have never admitted that you were wrong. The closest you ever came to it was when you lied and claimed that you were trolling to save face (as you often do), then went back to still claiming that I lost a bet that never happened and that I should be gone.

We did have a bet and you lost, then did all you could to get out of it. No honor at all.

Now what else? You gave the impression I was always wrong about a lot of things, ok what else?

[AussieFanKurt]

you are one of those people that give people of belief a bad image

[redzero]

We did have a bet and you lost, then did all you could to get out of it. No honor at all.

Complete and total lie. You are also a complete hypocrite because you have welshed on multiple bets (see link below for more details), so you calling somebody dishonorable for not upholding a non-existent agreement is laughable since you have actually welshed real bets.


Now what else? You gave the impression I was always wrong about a lot of things, ok what else?

Here you go. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203406

In this topic, I prove without a shadow of a doubt that there was never a bet, but you still lie and try to claim that there was. I provide the definition of the word "bet" and links to our exchanges before you posted the pics. To any reasonable human being, it was clear that you were lying your ass off.

How anyone can be so dishonest is baffling to me. You have the pure, unaltered facts staring you in the face, yet you still lie and claim that you are right.

Now, you are either going to completely dismiss everything in this post and lie like you always do, or claim that you were trolling. I don't have any expectation of you, for once in your life, to admit that you were wrong about something.

[Avante]

Complete and total lie. You are also a complete hypocrite because you have welshed on multiple bets (see link below for more details), so you calling somebody dishonorable for not upholding a non-existent agreement is laughable since you have actually welshed real bets.



Here you go. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203406

In this topic, I prove without a shadow of a doubt that there was never a bet, but you still lie and try to claim that there was. I provide the definition of the word "bet" and links to our exchanges before you posted the pics. To any reasonable human being, it was clear that you were lying your ass off.

How anyone can be so dishonest is baffling to me. You have the pure, unaltered facts staring you in the face, yet you still lie and claim that you are right.

Now, you are either going to completely dismiss everything in this post and lie like you always do, or claim that you were trolling. I don't have any expectation of you, for once in your life, to admit that you were wrong about something.

Dude, you called me all these names, you called me a liar numerous times, you said I was never ever ever ever going to produce the evidence....right? We made a bet, I said I did you said I didn't. Then you finally figure it out, yep, I was working ya, so you tried to put stupid time limits on shit. When the bottom line was yes I had the music, so you were as wrong as wrong gets and should have apologized. Of course being the little prick that ya are ya never did. You got your ass kicked little fella and not once admitted that. Not once..."ok man sorry I called you all those names"....so fuck you! You got stomped on asshole and everyone saw it. Of course a low rent fucker like you is going to play bullshit games, what else can you do?

[Avante]

you are one of those people that give people of belief a bad image

Trust me amigo, I know some believers that wouldn't even talk to a loser like you. It would be...."you poor soul, so lost"...then ignore ya.

[redzero]

Dude, you called me all these names, you called me a liar numerous times, you said I was never ever ever ever going to produce the evidence....right?

So?


We made a bet

Then, show me where I agreed that I would leave. Show me where you agreed to the terms.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203406&p=6117034&viewfull=1#post6117034

Again, this post shows our exchanges before you posted the pics. Show me where either of us accepted the bet. Don't whine about me be not apologizing. Don't claim that I was wrong about you not having the records, because I know that already. That has nothing to do with what I am asking you right now.

Now, before you respond, think of this as a chance to show some semblance to intelligence for once in your life. THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO. Don't ignore my request and go on a long, rambling whinefest about how I was mean to you and never apologized. Just provide the link that showed that I agreed to the bet. That is all. Please, just provide the link.

[Avante]

So?



Then, show me where I agreed that I would leave. Show me where you agreed to the terms.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203406&p=6117034&viewfull=1#post6117034

Again, this post shows our exchanges before you posted the pics. Show me where either of us accepted the bet. Don't whine about me be not apologizing. Don't claim that I was wrong about you not having the records, because I know that already. That has nothing to do with what I am asking you right now.

Now, before you respond, think of this as a chance to show some semblance to intelligence for once in your life. THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO. Don't ignore my request and go on a long, rambling whinefest about how I was mean to you and never apologized. Just provide the link that showed that I agreed to the bet. That is all. Please, just provide the link.

So you aren't going to apologize for calling me liar and all those names? You were proven wrong yet you won't apologize despite the "fact" I wasn't lying? What sort of bullshit is that? I need an apology. And until I get one I'm not searching out anything. Be a man ya little prick.

If you wanna talk to me I need to read....."ok man sorry, you were right, I sucked" until I do read that you are dead to me.

[redzero]

You don't even have to search. I have already provided the links to all the posts. The reason why you won't look is because you know I am right. You are whining about an apology to change the topic. You did that in the topic I linked as well. It's the only defense you have left.

I stated that you never admit to being wrong.
You asked me to provide evidence.
I provided the evidence.
Now you are trying to steer the topic in another direction, but I'm not going to bite.

You were wrong. No amount of stalling will change that fact.

[Avante]

You don't even have to search. I have already provided the links to all the posts. The reason why you won't look is because you know I am right. You are whining about an apology to change the topic. You did that in the topic I linked as well. It's the only defense you have left.

I stated that you never admit to being wrong.
You asked me to provide evidence.
I provided the evidence.
Now you are trying to steer the topic in another direction, but I'm not going to bite.

You were wrong. No amount of stalling will change that fact.

We had a bet, you lost. Those are the facts. I need an apology.

[redzero]

Avante thinks that if he repeats the same thing over and over again, it will become true. He is just another Dale Robinson, since they are both old men who lie their asses off about any and everything. He's lazy and dishonest.

Well, I'm done for now. Destroying you all the time gets pretty boring, so maybe I'll just let you be until you are inevitably banned from here.

[Avante]

Avante thinks that if he repeats the same thing over and over again, it will become true. He is just another Dale Robinson, since they are both old men who lie their asses off about any and everything. He's lazy and dishonest.

Well, I'm done for now. Destroying you all the time gets pretty boring, so maybe I'll just let you be until you are inevitably banned from here.

Let's see...

You got totally manhandled over the music thing to the point of having to lie about things.

Refuse you admit you were wrong about crime and religion.

Have never ever proven anything having to do with God.

Are now lying about destroying...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You get worked every single time you mess with me, you know it and I know it. I own you and always have.

Pay attention slick..

I need that apology, that's all I want to hear from you, got it!

Can ya imagine a long bus ride with this little shit? Talk about a pain in the ass, damn!

Fuck it, let's have some music.


1ARUCSdcLPY

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I know some believers that wouldn't even talk to a loser like you. It would be...."you poor soul, so lost"...then ignore ya.

Sounds like some great people.

[Avante]

Sounds like some great people.

Powerful people, ain't about to get caught up in silliness over their beliefs. They waste no time at all with guys like that dude. Way above that sort of thing.

It would be...

atheist....there ain't no God, prove it?
believer....I can't.
atheist...see see you're wrong.
believer...whatever you say, have a nice day.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao power people?

You are one delusional old fuck.

[Avante]

:lmao power people?

You are one delusional old fuck.

And you are one dumdass mutherfucker. So tell me dumbass who am I talking about?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

atheist....there ain't no God, prove it?
believer....I can't.
atheist...see see you're wrong.
believer...whatever you say, have a nice day.

Do people who openly admit they can't prove something and that they have an illogical belief generally sit in a 13 page thread repeatedly trying to prove what it is they say is unprovable?

[Blake]

atheist....there ain't no God, prove it?
believer....I can't.
atheist...see see you're wrong.
believer...whatever you say, have a nice day.

Atheist: prove there is a god

Believer: I can't.

atheist: then please remove prayer from public schools, remove in god we trust from coins and allow gays to get married please.

Believer: this country's leaders and laws have been ordained by god so fuck off, heathen.

Atheist: lol Avante. lol 70%.

[Avante]

Do people who openly admit they can't prove something and that they have an illogical belief generally sit in a 13 page thread repeatedly trying to prove what it is they say is unprovable?

Show me where I tried to prove anything. I've mentioned many times nothing about this is provable. I've mentioned that word faith many times. How could the existence of God be proven, go ahead would love to know.

[Blake]

Show me where I tried to prove anything. I've mentioned many times nothing about this is provable. I've mentioned that word faith many times. How could the existence of God be proven, go ahead would love to know.

You're retarded. No junk talk. You are really mentally challenged.

[Avante]

The bottom line in all this is that we finally have something totally out of our relm of comprehension, everything we know can be explained, there is some logical reasoning involved until we come to ....God? Now all our laws of reasoning and logic go out the window, now it's nothing more than faith in something we can't reason with, there is nothing logical about it so we have to go with just our faith. There are those who can't do that, everything has to be logical, explainable, they can't fathom that we are dealing with the supernatual here. It's beyond them, while others have an open mind, they realize that us humans are limited and we don't know it all. So we have the thinkers who can see beyond our limits and those stuck with limitations.

Hell no nothing can be proven, it's not suppose to be. If it could be then why have faith when you have facts? God wants you to come to Him thru that faith if He didn't He'd show Himself.

[Blake]

The bottom line in all this is that we finally have something totally out of our relm of comprehension, everything we know can be explained, there is some logical reasoning involved until we come to ....God? Now all our laws of reasoning and logic go out the window, now it's nothing more than faith in something we can't reason with, there is nothing logical about it so we have to go with just our faith. There are those who can't do that, everything has to be logical, explainable they can't fathom that we are dealing with the supernatual here. It's beyond them, while others have an open mind, they realize that us humans are limited and we don't know it all. So we have the thinkers who can see beyond our limits and those stuck with limitations.


You're retarded. No junk talk. You are really mentally challenged.

[Blake]

God wants you to come to Him thru that faith if He didn't He'd show Himself.

If God really wanted you to come to him, you'd already be there with him.

lol you can respond. I won't hold your feet to the fire that you vowed never to respond to me again or else you would self ban yourself forever.

[Avante]

This guy was a master slide man and one of the first gospel singers to record. The great Blind Willie Johnson. Dylan covered this tune on his first album. One of his songs is up there in Voyager, just in case the Aliens discover it. No doubt they have record players, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

t5HaHVKRouo

[Blake]

You're retarded. No junk talk. You are really mentally challenged.

[Avante]

Where are those atheist songs?

_xdIkBgL7WQ

[Blake]

wogta8alHiU

[CuckingFunt]

This conversation is killing my brain cells.

[Avante]

This conversation is killing my brain cells.

Don't you have some nails to polish, soaps to watch?

[Clipper Nation]

:lol at Avante using songs to argue that God exists

By that logic, Avante worships Lil B :lol

[CuckingFunt]

:lol at Avante using songs to argue that God exists

By that logic, Avante worships Lil B :lol

Impossible.

Avante already accurately predicted that country music was better than rap.

[AussieFanKurt]

If a ghost in the sky helps you sleep at night avante, well I won't stop you. But fact you need it is sad. Obviously a shit life if you need something like that

[Avante]

If a ghost in the sky helps you sleep at night avante, well I won't stop you. But fact you need it is sad. Obviously a shit life if you need something like that

Dude, I grew up with God in my life, I don't know any other life. A shit life is not having any hope or faith in anything, how sad is that?

Look at you right now, you stupid enought to think all those billions on billions of believes all had shit lifes...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! You need to hear some gospel music, trust me slick those singers aren't living a shit life. What a moronic thing to say.

[JoeChalupa]

Dude, I grew up with God in my life, I don't know any other life. A shit life is not having any hope or faith in anything, how sad is that?

Look at you right now, you stupid enought to think all those billions on billions of believes all had shit lifes...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! You need to hear some gospel music, trust me slick those singers aren't living a shit life. What a moronic thing to say.

I too grew up with God in my life and I can't imagine not having faith. But that is just me and I live peacefully and comfortably with my faith in my God. All the criticism and smack about how religion and faith is stupid doesn't me and yes, it does help me sleep better. It works for me.
Oh, and there is a God as the Victoria Secret's Fashion Show is on tonight.

[Avante]

I too grew up with God in my life and I can't imagine not having faith. But that is just me and I live peacefully and comfortably with my faith in my God. All the criticism and smack about how religion and faith is stupid doesn't me and yes, it does help me sleep better. It works for me.
Oh, and there is a God as the Victoria Secret's Fashion Show is on tonight.

Obviously you get it, I pity these little shits who don't. As we know they are in the minority, most people are too smart to go it alone.

[AussieFanKurt]

Dude, I grew up with God in my life, I don't know any other life. A shit life is not having any hope or faith in anything, how sad is that?

Look at you right now, you stupid enought to think all those billions on billions of believes all had shit lifes...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! You need to hear some gospel music, trust me slick those singers aren't living a shit life. What a moronic thing to say.

you have a shit life obviously then

what would god say about your adultery - paying for sex? hm

[Avante]

you have a shit life obviously then

what would god say about your adultery - paying for sex? hm

You're the one without a God in your life, not me. You might wanna cool comparing life's.

I was 19-22 years old, in a foreign land surrounded by whores. Yep, weak.

[AussieFanKurt]

You're the one without a God in your life, not me. You might wanna cool comparing life's.

I was 19-22 years old, in a foreign land surrounded by whores. Yep, weak.

Yeah and I'm a lot happier without god in my life than the 15 years I had it in my life. I feel for you, not everyone's as lucky as me

[redzero]

I wonder what a good reason to believe in God would be for those who don't need fairy tales to make themselves feel happy.

[silverblk mystix]

14 pages :lmao

[Blake]

I predict SBM will continue to suck Avante.

Nailed it

[Avante]

Yeah and I'm a lot happier without god in my life than the 15 years I had it in my life. I feel for you, not everyone's as lucky as me

Well lets see....

three vehicles
home owner
10.000 book library
20,000 football cards
6000 CD's/records/tapes
built like a chunk of railroad steel
wife is long tall and has that "my daddy owns oils wells" walk.
6 big screen TV's.
money will never be a problem
enought food to feed an African village.
Everybody deeply in love with everyone else.

Ok your turn.

[AussieFanKurt]

Well lets see....

three vehicles
home owner
10.000 book library
20,000 football cards
6000 CD's/records/tapes
built like a chunk of railroad steel
wife is long tall and has that "my daddy owns oils wells" walk.
6 big screen TV's.
money will never be a problem
enought food to feed an African village.
Everybody deeply in love with everyone else.

Ok your turn.

I feel for you that you have to prove and compare your material worth to a 20 year old on the internet, you must be sadder than I thought. If you ever need to chat I'm here son!

[Avante]

I wonder what a good reason to believe in God would be for those who don't need fairy tales to make themselves feel happy.

In God We Trust
One Nation Under God
I Swear To God
So Help Me God
BYU
Abilene Christian
Dallas Baptist
Oklahoma Baptist
Notre Dame
Texas Christian
Easter
Christmas
Churchs all over the place
Gospel music
Heaven
Hell
Godfather
Pregame prayer
A priest marrying a couple

[AussieFanKurt]

:lol 20k football cards, COOL MAN!

[Avante]

I feel for you that you have to prove and compare your material worth to a 20 year old on the internet, you must be sadder than I thought. If you ever need to chat I'm here son!

Wel then sonny, know your fucking place. You don't own shit, you ain't seen shit and you don't know shit, but at 20 you think you do. We all went thru that. Zits?

[Avante]

:lol 20k football cards, COOL MAN!

Probably more, starting in the mid 50's-present.

[AussieFanKurt]

Wel then sonny, know your fucking place. You don't own shit, you ain't seen shit and you don't know shit, but at 20 you think you do. We all went thru that. Zits?

I'm not the one trying to prove myself to someone on the net like you are, you really must be sad. I hope things improve soon!!!

[redzero]

I guess that, for a rational person, there isn't much incentive to believe. There's no need to cling to stories written in the desert 2000+ years ago. No need to waste time or money church.

Feels good, man.

[Avante]

I guess that, for a rational person, there isn't much incentive to believe. There's no need to cling to stories written in the desert 2000+ years ago. No need to waste time or money church.

Feels good, man.

A rational person doesn't gamble an eternity spent in hell. They cover their ass.

[Avante]

I'm not the one trying to prove myself to someone on the net like you are, you really must be sad. I hope things improve soon!!!

I'm not the one going around telling strangers I know nothing about how shitty their life must be.

[AussieFanKurt]

A rational person doesn't gamble an eternity spent in hell. They cover their ass.

ahhh so your reason for having belief is to cover your ass, right

[redzero]

I also don't let fear dictate my beliefs, because this is 2012 and I don't have to worry about bullshit like eternal damnation or any other nonsense. And I acknowledge how it is contradictory for an all-loving God to punish somebody for all eternity.

Feels good not being a coward who believes in nonsense out of fear.

[Blake]

A priest marrying a couple

A priest molesting boys.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I also don't let fear dictate my beliefs, because this is 2012 and I don't have to worry about bullshit like eternal damnation or any other nonsense. And I acknowledge how it is contradictory for an all-loving God to punish somebody for all eternity.

Feels good not being a coward who believes in nonsense out of fear.

Plus, Avante's "cover your ass" argument is more bullshit. In the event that his god doesn't exist but the Muslim god Allah does, he's just as fucked as us cold blooded atheists and going to the same hell we're going to for not praising Muhammed.

[silverblk mystix]

15 PAGES of sheeple puppets :lmao

[Blake]

I predict SBM will continue to suck Avante.

Nailed it

[AussieFanKurt]

how are you and avante going along, SBM? things seem strong as ever

[silverblk mystix]

Nailed it


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[redzero]

Plus, Avante's "cover your ass" argument is more bullshit. In the event that his god doesn't exist but the Muslim god Allah does, he's just as fucked as us cold blooded atheists and going to the same hell we're going to for not praising Muhammed.


Pascal's Wager is so flawed it isn't funny. There are countless numbers of outcomes, but arrogant Christians automatically assume that either their god and their heaven exist or there are no gods.

Pascal's Wager doesn't account for other gods, other denominations, or even if heaven and hell exist in the first place, with or without God. Only a true moron would think that it is a good reason to believe in God.

[silverblk mystix]

how are you and avante going along, SBM? things seem strong as ever



STFU aussie homo - you're out of your element!

[AussieFanKurt]

STFU aussie homo - you're out of your element!

someone's getting defensive, its okay, we all know. dont need to cover it up

[AussieFanKurt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7JscsZ-52o&amp;feature=youtu.be

[Sybok]

15 PAGES of sheeple puppets :lmao

I can feel your pain. Walk with me for a moment as we share our thoughts: You're a child, your father, a migrant worker from Chihuahua arrives at a small mobile home in West Texas, riding in the back of a farm truck. Your mother, only a chromosome away from being traded for saddle blankets, born in a horse stable in a US Cavalry barn in San Angelo, found by your father at age 12 sucking glue from an old shoe, has just finished rolling out tortillas and has placed a couple on the old stove in the kitchen. You and your brother are pretending to be astronauts inside an old broken down refrigerator in the yard. You see your father arrive and you run to meet him. He calls you "mijo" and you call him "padre". He regales you with tales of cherries, apples, oranges and other delectable fruits that he's picked in his month long tour of the country. He hands you an apple, two bites missing from it. You tear into it and smile and say "gracias padre, como estas?". All the while no one has notices your brother, Chuy Rodriguez Rodriguez Hernandez (actually belonging to another man while your father was in Florida) has stopped making noise, as he's locked inside this space ship. 30 minutes later your mother wonders where Chuy went. She asks you and your face turns almost tan (white would be too far for you), "Chuy was in the space chip" you say. "Mira mira, Chuy, aye ya ya... noooooo" as your mother finds Chuy has found an old jar of picante sauce and has launched into it full force in that refrigerator. Chuy joo ate the last picante sauces, joo thief".

Since then you've been out to stop crime, enrolling in a police academy only to later decide it was too easy for you, so you opted to instead check assholes in a local lockup facility. Now you hate yourself because every day your fingers have a permanent ring of shit around them, and they reek of latex and shit and piss and cum. You think back to days when your father brought you the fruit and long for those days, and you draw a strange parallel to the fruit your father picked and the ass fruit you pick. You have come full circle. Let go.

[silverblk mystix]

I can feel your pain. Walk with me for a moment as we share our thoughts: You're a child, your father, a migrant worker from Chihuahua arrives at a small mobile home in West Texas, riding in the back of a farm truck. Your mother, only a chromosome away from being traded for saddle blankets, born in a horse stable in a US Cavalry barn in San Angelo, found by your father at age 12 sucking glue from an old shoe, has just finished rolling out tortillas and has placed a couple on the old stove in the kitchen. You and your brother are pretending to be astronauts inside an old broken down refrigerator in the yard. You see your father arrive and you run to meet him. He calls you "mijo" and you call him "padre". He regales you with tales of cherries, apples, oranges and other delectable fruits that he's picked in his month long tour of the country. He hands you an apple, two bites missing from it. You tear into it and smile and say "gracias padre, como estas?". All the while no one has notices your brother, Chuy Rodriguez Rodriguez Hernandez (actually belonging to another man while your father was in Florida) has stopped making noise, as he's locked inside this space ship. 30 minutes later your mother wonders where Chuy went. She asks you and your face turns almost tan (white would be too far for you), "Chuy was in the space chip" you say. "Mira mira, Chuy, aye ya ya... noooooo" as your mother finds Chuy has found an old jar of picante sauce and has launched into it full force in that refrigerator. Chuy joo ate the last picante sauces, joo thief".

Since then you've been out to stop crime, enrolling in a police academy only to later decide it was too easy for you, so you opted to instead check assholes in a local lockup facility. Now you hate yourself because every day your fingers have a permanent ring of shit around them, and they reek of latex and shit and piss and cum. You think back to days when your father brought you the fruit and long for those days, and you draw a strange parallel to the fruit your father picked and the ass fruit you pick. You have come full circle. Let go.



:sleep


Tired, uninventive & stale schtick. Time to try another of your troll accounts.

[AussieFanKurt]

Tired, uninventive & stale schtick.

Irony at its best... "sheeple, sheeple, 14 pages hehehe"

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I can feel your pain. Walk with me for a moment as we share our thoughts: You're a child, your father, a migrant worker from Chihuahua arrives at a small mobile home in West Texas, riding in the back of a farm truck. Your mother, only a chromosome away from being traded for saddle blankets, born in a horse stable in a US Cavalry barn in San Angelo, found by your father at age 12 sucking glue from an old shoe, has just finished rolling out tortillas and has placed a couple on the old stove in the kitchen. You and your brother are pretending to be astronauts inside an old broken down refrigerator in the yard. You see your father arrive and you run to meet him. He calls you "mijo" and you call him "padre". He regales you with tales of cherries, apples, oranges and other delectable fruits that he's picked in his month long tour of the country. He hands you an apple, two bites missing from it. You tear into it and smile and say "gracias padre, como estas?". All the while no one has notices your brother, Chuy Rodriguez Rodriguez Hernandez (actually belonging to another man while your father was in Florida) has stopped making noise, as he's locked inside this space ship. 30 minutes later your mother wonders where Chuy went. She asks you and your face turns almost tan (white would be too far for you), "Chuy was in the space chip" you say. "Mira mira, Chuy, aye ya ya... noooooo" as your mother finds Chuy has found an old jar of picante sauce and has launched into it full force in that refrigerator. Chuy joo ate the last picante sauces, joo thief".

Since then you've been out to stop crime, enrolling in a police academy only to later decide it was too easy for you, so you opted to instead check assholes in a local lockup facility. Now you hate yourself because every day your fingers have a permanent ring of shit around them, and they reek of latex and shit and piss and cum. You think back to days when your father brought you the fruit and long for those days, and you draw a strange parallel to the fruit your father picked and the ass fruit you pick. You have come full circle. Let go.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Avante]

I already mentioned I grew up in a home that believed in God, I didn't come to God, I was always with God. I'm not talking about me when I say "cover your ass", I'm talking about the ignorant atheists,

[AussieFanKurt]

:lol indoctrinated by parents, luckily my parents gave me a choice on what to do rather than brainwashing me at a young age

[DMC]

I already mentioned I grew up in a home that believed in God, I didn't come to God, I was always with God. I'm not talking about me when I say "cover your ass", I'm talking about the ignorant atheists,

You cannot even prove a God exists. Since even you cannot do that, you are also ignorant, except that doesn't stop you from following the herd of mindless jesus drones.

Ignorance + certainty = douchebag

[DMC]

I can feel your pain. Walk with me for a moment as we share our thoughts: You're a child, your father, a migrant worker from Chihuahua arrives at a small mobile home in West Texas, riding in the back of a farm truck. Your mother, only a chromosome away from being traded for saddle blankets, born in a horse stable in a US Cavalry barn in San Angelo, found by your father at age 12 sucking glue from an old shoe, has just finished rolling out tortillas and has placed a couple on the old stove in the kitchen. You and your brother are pretending to be astronauts inside an old broken down refrigerator in the yard. You see your father arrive and you run to meet him. He calls you "mijo" and you call him "padre". He regales you with tales of cherries, apples, oranges and other delectable fruits that he's picked in his month long tour of the country. He hands you an apple, two bites missing from it. You tear into it and smile and say "gracias padre, como estas?". All the while no one has notices your brother, Chuy Rodriguez Rodriguez Hernandez (actually belonging to another man while your father was in Florida) has stopped making noise, as he's locked inside this space ship. 30 minutes later your mother wonders where Chuy went. She asks you and your face turns almost tan (white would be too far for you), "Chuy was in the space chip" you say. "Mira mira, Chuy, aye ya ya... noooooo" as your mother finds Chuy has found an old jar of picante sauce and has launched into it full force in that refrigerator. Chuy joo ate the last picante sauces, joo thief".

Since then you've been out to stop crime, enrolling in a police academy only to later decide it was too easy for you, so you opted to instead check assholes in a local lockup facility. Now you hate yourself because every day your fingers have a permanent ring of shit around them, and they reek of latex and shit and piss and cum. You think back to days when your father brought you the fruit and long for those days, and you draw a strange parallel to the fruit your father picked and the ass fruit you pick. You have come full circle. Let go.

lol

[Jacob1983]

It's not what you know. It's what you can prove.

http://theleague2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/alonzo-harris.jpg

[Avante]

:lol indoctrinated by parents, luckily my parents gave me a choice on what to do rather than brainwashing me at a young age

I always had a choice, brainwashing, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! I saw those who were my fanmily and those who didn't have a God, real easy choice to make.

[AussieFanKurt]

I always had a choice, brainwashing, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! I saw those who were my fanmily and those who didn't have a God, real easy choice to make.

Yeah I'm sure you had a "choice" if you choice was your dad saying how good god was 24/7

[DMC]

I always had a choice, brainwashing, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! I saw those who were my fanmily and those who didn't have a God, real easy choice to make.

You monitor this site like a fucking ICBM operator.

God is gonna getcha... god is gonna getcha..... god is gonna getcha... abdula abdula

[Avante]

You cannot even prove a God exists. Since even you cannot do that, you are also ignorant, except that doesn't stop you from following the herd of mindless jesus drones.

Ignorance + certainty = douchebag

I don't care if God exists, it's a better life having faith that He does, look at how fucked up you are, not a cool bone in your body, you see slick you have no God, you haver no hope, no faith. all you have is a big fucking mouth.

[Avante]

Yeah I'm sure you had a "choice" if you choice was your dad saying how good god was 24/7

My dad said grace and that was about it, hell he once told me...

dad..if I hear of you starting any fights at school, I'll kick your ass
me...ok.
dad..but if I hear about you letting anyone push you around, I'll kill you
me..ok

[AussieFanKurt]

Needing god to be happy is so sad. Whoever needs this to be satisfied with their life needs a reality check. If you just like to have god in your life thats fine but to say one needs god to be happy and fulfilled is a typical ridiculous generalisation for a dumb christian to make

side note: not all christians are dumb but you're a prime example

[Avante]

Needing god to be happy is so sad. Whoever needs this to be satisfied with their life needs a reality check. If you just like to have god in your life thats fine but to say one needs god to be happy and fulfilled is a typical ridiculous generalisation for a dumb christian to make

side note: not all christians are dumb but you're a prime example

Dude you are 20 years old, trust me little man you don't know shit, not a fucking thing, zero. You haven't read enought, you haven't lived enought, you haven't had enought adventures to be calling anyone dumb. You're a punk know nothing kid, totally clueless about that big old world out there. Trust me amigo I could embarrash you right here right now showing everyone just how much your dumb ass doesn't know. So be cool fool, ok?

I don't give a shit what you think about religion, you're just a dumb kid. I like believing in God, it feels good. Do you really think a punk like you ....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AussieFanKurt]

Dude you are 20 years old, trust me little man you don't know shit, not a fucking thing, zero. You haven't read enought, you haven't lived enought, you haven't had enought adventures to be calling anyone dumb. You're a punk know nothing kid, totally clueless about that big old world out there. Trust me amigo I could embarrash you right here right now showing everyone just how much your dumb ass doesn't know. So be cool fool, ok?

I don't give a shit what you think about religion, you're just a dumb kid. I like believing in God, it feels good. Do you really think a punk like you ....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol every post you make you seem more and more sad, I really really feel for you. The fact you are getting so defensive obviously means I've hit a sensitive spot naw

[Avante]

:lol every post you make you seem more and more sad, I really really feel for you. The fact you are getting so defensive obviously means I've hit a sensitive spot naw

Sad is watching some dumbass kid run his big ass mouth. If you knew anything it really would help, since you don't it...................

[AussieFanKurt]

Sad is watching some dumbass kid run his big ass mouth. If you knew anything it really would help, since you don't it...................

i'm not running my mouth at all, you're the one running your mouth throwing chat... naw does it make you feel like a big man

[Avante]

i'm not running my mouth at all, you're the one running your mouth throwing chat... naw does it make you feel like a big man

Dude, you can't even order a drink in a bar, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet you're still a cherry boy aren't ya? Never been in jail, never been in an alley fight, never been stabbed, never been downtown Norh Hollywood, San Francisco, San Diego with all the trannies, doppers, dikes, pimps, hookers, freaks and geeks. I bet you still live at home, right?

[AussieFanKurt]

Dude, you can't ever order a drink in a bar, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet you're still a cherry boy aren't ya? Never been in jail, never been in an alley fight, never beem stabbed, been been downtown Hollywood, San Francisco, San Diego with all the trannies, doppers, pimps, hookers, freaks and geeks. I bet you still live at home, right?

Drinking age in Australia is 18... Wow someone is special. I stopped reading at that point

[Avante]

Drinking age in Australia is 18... Wow someone is special. I stopped reading at that point

Great let's leave it at that.

[Wild Cobra]

You cannot even prove a God exists. Since even you cannot do that, you are also ignorant, except that doesn't stop you from following the herd of mindless jesus drones.

Ignorance + certainty = douchebag
I cannot prove, nor would I attempt to prove, that any God exists. For me, if Jehovah exists, so do others. I do know from personal experience that we are spiritual beings. I would say it is very feasible that the Gods do not exists, but we create them in our image. When a person has a spiritual experience, I will contend it is likely they acknowledge it and give credit to what ever their belief is that they learned.

I do feel sorry for those who have not had spiritual experiences. You would at least no longer be atheist.

[Avante]

I cannot prove, nor would I attempt to prove, that any God exists. For me, if Jehovah exists, so do others. I do know from personal experience that we are spiritual beings. I would say it is very feasible that the Gods do not exists, but we create them in our image. When a person has a spiritual experience, I will contend it is likely they acknowledge it and give credit to what ever their belief is that they learned.

I do feel sorry for those who have not had spiritual experiences. You would at least no longer be atheist.

You got it bro.


Look at all these people who also get it.



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[AussieFanKurt]

I cannot prove, nor would I attempt to prove, that any God exists. For me, if Jehovah exists, so do others. I do know from personal experience that we are spiritual beings. I would say it is very feasible that the Gods do not exists, but we create them in our image. When a person has a spiritual experience, I will contend it is likely they acknowledge it and give credit to what ever their belief is that they learned.

I do feel sorry for those who have not had spiritual experiences. You would at least no longer be atheist.

This view that atheists are sad people is so funny. I'm very happy in my life, very happy and an atheist. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that

[Avante]

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The nature of Australian spirituality can be explored from the viewpoint of religious beliefs. Most Australians believe in God. A large number accept conventional Christian beliefs such as life after death, the divinity of Jesus and the existence of the devil and of heaven. Many also believe in reincarnation, which has its origins in mainstream Eastern religion.
While most Australians believe in God, only a minority believe in a personal God. Around 35% believe in a personal God and 39% in a lifeforce of some sort. Some 9% feel there is no God, and 17% don't know. The fact that more Australians believe in God than attend church is also evident in the fact that while 20% attend church at least monthly, around 33% pray or meditate at least weekly, and 43% feel somewhat or extremely close to God.


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So there you are at a ball game, a play, a concert, a restaurant and start talking this..."there is no God"....you'd be told to shut the fuck up and sit your ass down.

[AussieFanKurt]

lacking relevance

[Avante]

lacking relevance

Point is no matter where you go nobody wants to hear some kid going around..."there is no God". You will always be out numbered by the more mature, more intelligent and wiser.

[Wild Cobra]

This view that atheists are sad people is so funny. I'm very happy in my life, very happy and an atheist. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that
I didn't say atheists were sad people. I said I think it's sad they haven't have spiritual experiences.

[Wild Cobra]

Drinking age in Australia is 18... Wow someone is special. I stopped reading at that point
Isn't it 15 or 16 in Germany?

[Wild Cobra]

Just asked Wiki:


Germany has three drinking ages.

At 14 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine, as long as they are in the company of their parents or a legal guardian.
At 16 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine without their parents or a legal guardian.
At 18 - having become adults, people are allowed access to distilled liquor.

[AussieFanKurt]

Isn't it 15 or 16 in Germany?

yeah we always drank on a school trip to france, spirits and beer when we were 16. must be numerous euro countries

[AussieFanKurt]

Point is no matter where you go nobody wants to hear some kid going around..."there is no God". You will always be out numbered by the more mature, more intelligent and wiser.

went to a catholic school, said there was no god, was never told to be quiet or to sit my ass down, to be honest teachers and students were more of the opinion that everyone is entitled to their opinion and didn't really care. its rich to say people of faith are mature, intelligent and wiser due to that alone, if you think that you are a moron, sure one of faith can be all those three but its not their faith alone

[Avante]

went to a catholic school, said there was no god, was never told to be quiet or to sit my ass down, to be honest teachers and students were more of the opinion that everyone is entitled to their opinion and didn't really care. its rich to say people of faith are mature, intelligent and wiser due to that alone, if you think that you are a moron, sure one of faith can be all those three but its not their faith alone

A moron goes around telling people of faith they are this and that. They don't know enought to keep their mouth shut because wants to hear them.Who cares what some 20 year old kid thinks? Dude, know your place, ok?

[AussieFanKurt]

A moron goes around telling people of faith they are this and that. They don't know enought to keep their mouth shut because wants to hear them.Who cares what some 20 year old kid thinks? Dude, know your place, ok?

well my teacher asked me so why wouldn't I answer.. wtf.

[DMC]

I cannot prove, nor would I attempt to prove, that any God exists. For me, if Jehovah exists, so do others. I do know from personal experience that we are spiritual beings. I would say it is very feasible that the Gods do not exists, but we create them in our image. When a person has a spiritual experience, I will contend it is likely they acknowledge it and give credit to what ever their belief is that they learned.

I do feel sorry for those who have not had spiritual experiences. You would at least no longer be atheist.

By saying "spiritual" you're just pushing the concept of a god back to another gap. There's also no proof of spirits. The experience you refer to might be an emotional one, but you're equivocating that with spirituality, and the next step there is a deity. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

The rest I agree with.

[it's me]

It's common knowledge we can't prove a god exists or can't prove a god doesn't exist..... but it's stupid to believe something based on pure wishful thinking....

I'm a de-converted christian, now agnostic.......... A "creator god" might exist, but believing in the christian god and all the christian dogmas and shit is pure stupidity, as I said in another thread................

if the judeo-christian god actually exists as interpreted and written about in the old and new testament, he certainly is a motherfucker son of a bitch, a bloodthirsty lunatic…. no matter if it’s an animal or a human (jesus 100% man, Numbers 31:24-40) …. Dude wanted to see blood and implemented the barbarian and ridiculous “sacrifice system”, shit… he’s fucking god…. could have invented a more “loving” stupid system to forgive his own defective creation.

Fortunately, that god is just an invention.

[DMC]

It's common knowledge we can't prove a god exists or can't prove a god doesn't exist..... but it's stupid to believe something based on pure wishful thinking....

I'm a de-converted christian, now agnostic.......... A "creator god" might exist, but believing in the christian god and all the christian dogmas and shit is pure stupidity, as I said in another thread................

if the judeo-christian god actually exists as interpreted and written about in the old and new testament, he certainly is a motherfucker son of a bitch, a bloodthirsty lunatic…. no matter if it’s an animal or a human (jesus 100% man, Numbers 31:24-40) …. Dude wanted to see blood and implemented the barbarian and ridiculous “sacrifice system”, shit… he’s fucking god…. could have invented a more “loving” stupid system to forgive his own defective creation.

Fortunately, that god is just an invention.

Why are you mad at God?

[DarkReign]

Amazing that these conversations persist any further than they have to.

[it's me]

Why are you mad at God?

Lol I'm not................ I'm stating a fact that contemporary christians try to avoid..... read some church history, and the barbarian behavior is pretty aligned with what the christian god actually “is”.... fuck, even Luther and all his new interpretations and reformation, advised to kill and burn the non christian Jews............ the christian god doesn't exist, you just need to put the irrational faith aside to see the picture clear.

[Jesus]

It's common knowledge we can't prove a god exists or can't prove a god doesn't exist..... but it's stupid to believe something based on pure wishful thinking....

I'm a de-converted christian, now agnostic.......... A "creator god" might exist, but believing in the christian god and all the christian dogmas and shit is pure stupidity, as I said in another thread................

if the judeo-christian god actually exists as interpreted and written about in the old and new testament, he certainly is a motherfucker son of a bitch, a bloodthirsty lunatic…. no matter if it’s an animal or a human (jesus 100% man, Numbers 31:24-40) …. Dude wanted to see blood and implemented the barbarian and ridiculous “sacrifice system”, shit… he’s fucking god…. could have invented a more “loving” stupid system to forgive his own defective creation.

Fortunately, that god is just an invention.

The day will come and I can't wait to wipe that stupid look off your face.

[DMC]

Lol I'm not................ I'm stating a fact that contemporary christians try to avoid..... read some church history, and the barbarian behavior is pretty aligned with what the christian god actually “is”.... fuck, even Luther and all his new interpretations and reformation, advised to kill and burn the non christian Jews............ the christian god doesn't exist, you just need to put the irrational faith aside to see the picture clear.

People have portrayed God in a negative light. God is love, and anything that says otherwise is wrong. You just have to believe it contrary to the evidence on the matter. That's why it's called fishing and not catching... errr... faith I mean.

[DMC]

The day will come and I can't wait to wipe that stupid look off your face.

lol trolled by your own people

[it's me]

People have portrayed God in a negative light. God is love, and anything that says otherwise is wrong. You just have to believe it contrary to the evidence on the matter. That's why it's called fishing and not catching... errr... faith I mean.

Bingo......... That's exactly what christians do, I simply can't believe nonsense.

[it's me]

The day will come and I can't wait to wipe that stupid look off your face.


:lmao fucking jesus you're awesome.

[Avante]

I think everyone wants to show how their way of doing it is how it should be done. The believers are.."you poor misguided souls" while the non believers are..."you dumb fuck, believing in a fantasy". What we do know for a fact is that there are far more believers than non believers. We also know for a fact all those non believers will either rot in a grave or burn in Hell for all eternity. While the believers will either rot in a grave or share in His glory for all eternity. So you have to ask yourself who has the better idea?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So god is going to send anyone who doesn't place illogical faith in him to hell? Sounds like a huge asshole. I really have no interest in worshiping a narcissistic prick who only rewards people who ignore logic.

And what you said isn't true. If the god that truly exists is the Islamic God Allah and not the Christian God, then you'll burn in the same hell I'll burn in. Heck, Allah will probably hate you more for believing in a Christian god than me for believing in no god.

[Avante]

So god is going to send anyone who doesn't place illogical faith in him to hell? Sounds like a huge asshole. I really have no interest in worshiping a narcissistic prick who only rewards people who ignore logic.

And what you said isn't true. If the god that truly exists is the Islamic God Allah and not the Christian God, then you'll burn in the same hell I'll burn in. Heck, Allah will probably hate you more for believing in a Christian god than me for believing in no god.


I do agree that He doesn't fuck around, if you don't kiss His ass you will pay the price.

Mohammad was a murderous tyrant, a pedophile. Some Islamic scholars think he might have been wacko. As we know Christianity was around long before Islam. It's pretty obvious the bit about the Angel Gabriel on the mountain in a cave was total bullshit. Cat simply bullshitted.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I do agree that He doesn't fuck around, if you don't kiss His ass you will pay the price.

So you admit to worshipping a narcissistic asshole who punishes people for not kissing his ass?.

Man, that sounds like it totally sucks.

The Greek gods and polytheism were around LONG before Islam or Christianity, so you better start worshipping those gods if were talking about what's been around longest.

Praise Zeus!

[Avante]

So you admit to worshipping a narcissistic asshole who punishes people for not kissing his ass?.

Man, that sounds like it totally sucks.

You keep acting like it's some real big ordeal when in reality it's nothing at all. You have probably noticed I'm not some goodie goodie at all. I do my thing regardless of my trust in God, I do the best I can to let Him know my feelings if it's not enought fuck it I'll take my chances. I don't go to church, I don't do anything other than once in awhile..."me and You, right? I know You're there" if that isn't enought, bummer.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You keep acting like it's some real big ordeal when in reality it's nothing at all. You have probably noticed I'm not some goodie goodie at all. I do my thing regardless of my trust in God, I do the best I can to let Him know my feelings if it's not enought fuck it I'll take my chances. I don't go to church, I don't do anything other than once in awhile..."me and You, right? I know You're there" if that isn't enought, bummer.

So then you have a decent chance at going to hell too.

See ya there. We can roast marshmellows together.

[Avante]

So then you have a decent chance at going to hell too.

See ya there. We can roast marshmellows together.


I have a hard time with all this just happening by chance. So many things having to work in perfect...PERFECT..concert in order to pull it off. I just can't see some little whatever waddling out of the ocean then....the Elephant the Eagle, the Spider, if that isn't hard to buy what is?

I gotta go with something is out there, what I have no idea. So I gotta accept what those who knows far more about it go with, yep...God. But since I don't kiss ass worh a damn I can just hope He's cool with my..."I'm not going to kiss your ass dude"...I have my faith and hope. It's going to be tight if I make the cut or not.

I seriously doubt we're hanging out together in Hell.

[Blake]

The day will come and I can't wait to wipe that stupid look off your face.

lol your mom going with ” uh....god got me pregnant”

[Blake]

I have a hard time with all this just happening by chance. So many things having to work in perfect...PERFECT..concert in order to pull it off. I just can't see some little whatever waddling out of the ocean then....the Elephant the Eagle, the Spider, if that isn't hard to buy what is?

I gotta go with something is out there, what I have no idea. So I gotta accept what those who knows far more about it go with, yep...God. But since I don't kiss ass worh a damn I can just hope He's cool with my..."I'm not going to kiss your ass dude"...I have my faith and hope. It's going to be tight if I make the cut or not.

Not even god would be able to put up with hearing about track stars from the 50s for all eternity.

You're going to hell to torture the devil

[redzero]

I do agree that He doesn't fuck around, if you don't kiss His ass you will pay the price.

Mohammad was a murderous tyrant, a pedophile. Some Islamic scholars think he might have been wacko. As we know Christianity was around long before Islam. It's pretty obvious the bit about the Angel Gabriel on the mountain in a cave was total bullshit. Cat simply bullshitted.

And the stuff about Jesus resurrecting isn't bullshit.

You sure a convenient skeptic.

[Avante]

And the stuff about Jesus resurrecting isn't bullshit.

You sure a convenient skeptic.

I once had the tip of my finger wacked off at work. Just the tip, while it bleed like hell it wasn't all that. Everyone coming up to me, "hear ya got your hand chopped off".

I seriously doubt any of that Bible stuff, I just go with something is behind all this. Ok, God will work because I have no other explanation.

[AussieFanKurt]

I don't go to church, I don't do anything other than once in awhile..."me and You, right? I know You're there" if that isn't enought, bummer.

Wait wait... you're going on about how magnificent god is in your life etc and you don't even go to church or anything.. jesus

[redzero]

I once had the tip of my finger wacked off at work. Just the tip, while it bleed like hell it wasn't all that. Everyone coming up to me, "hear ya got your hand chopped off".

I seriously doubt any of that Bible stuff, I just go with something is behind all this. Ok, God will work because I have no other explanation.

Why do you doubt all of it when billions of people believe in it?

Actually, why do you call what happened to Muhammad bullshit? Billions of people believe in it, so it must be true, right?

[DoubtingThomas]

And the stuff about Jesus resurrecting isn't bullshit.

You sure a convenient skeptic.

I too thought it was BS.

[DMC]

So god is going to send anyone who doesn't place illogical faith in him to hell? Sounds like a huge asshole. I really have no interest in worshiping a narcissistic prick who only rewards people who ignore logic.

And what you said isn't true. If the god that truly exists is the Islamic God Allah and not the Christian God, then you'll burn in the same hell I'll burn in. Heck, Allah will probably hate you more for believing in a Christian god than me for believing in no god.

Nor did Lucifer and 1/3rd of those who knew God personally (angels) according to the Bible.

[DMC]

I too thought it was BS.

Troll Forum regulars who made 1 billion alt names for every topic imaginable.

[Avante]

Wait wait... you're going on about how magnificent god is in your life etc and you don't even go to church or anything.. jesus

Where did I say anything about how magnificent trusting in God was? I said it felt better to have hope and faith in something as oppossed to having nothing at all. I do believe those with a God in their life are more content I think statss have proven that.

[DMC]

I have a hard time with all this just happening by chance. So many things having to work in perfect...PERFECT..concert in order to pull it off. I just can't see some little whatever waddling out of the ocean then....the Elephant the Eagle, the Spider, if that isn't hard to buy what is?

I gotta go with something is out there, what I have no idea. So I gotta accept what those who knows far more about it go with, yep...God. But since I don't kiss ass worh a damn I can just hope He's cool with my..."I'm not going to kiss your ass dude"...I have my faith and hope. It's going to be tight if I make the cut or not.

I seriously doubt we're hanging out together in Hell.

You're going down the line on fallacious reasoning aren't ya? If you aren't Mouse you're doing a damn fine job imitating him.