Game Thread: Spurs @ Pacers - Nov. 23, 2012 @ 7 PM CST

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[lefty]

lol Larry Bird

[NRHector]

I have a feeling Hill is going to have a career-high game

[Arcadian]

(delete)

[Kidd K]

The Pacers aren't quite as good this year as last year. How's Granger's health doing now?

[playblair]

The Pacers aren't quite as good this year as last year. How's Granger's health doing now?

Scott Agness ‏@ScottAgness (https://twitter.com/ScottAgness) Danny Granger, who's still on crutches, was back around the team today for the 1st time since having an injection in his left knee on Nov 6.

[timvp]

Andrew Monaco and Sean Marks on the call? It'll be interesting to hear if Marks will give any insight.

[foodie2]

Oh, crap. No Sean and no Bill Land. They call Andrew Monaco the fan favorite, but I would like to know what fans like him. Certainly not me

[timvp]

^Yeah, Monaco tries too hard, IMO.

[BillMc]

Should be a good win for the spurs. I predict 101-92

[blackfire12]

just fuggin win

[timvp]

L'go, IMO.

[timvp]

Good start, Neal.

[ace3g]

Neal with it runner

[Juggity]

Neal gets it going

[timvp]

Two buckets in the paint :tu

[blackfire12]

getting in the paint early is good

[timvp]

Parker smoooooth to start out.

[phxspurfan]

when he's knocking down those floauters thats groayt

[DPG21920]

TP is schooling GH right now. Early, but TP looks great.

[blackfire12]

ugh, this is going to be the most boring commentary i've heard in a long time.. as much as i hate sean's lackadaisical, top shelf comments it at least adds something..

[timvp]

God-mode TP.

[Juggity]

Hell yeah

[DPG21920]

Just a stupid, stupid foul by Blair. If he wants to keep his playing time and be useful, he has to cut that out.

[timvp]

Blair with the lead block on that layup.

[Juggity]

Nice D on Hibbert there by TD

[Uriel]

Roy Hibbert makes Duncan look short. :(

[timvp]

D against backdoor cuts horrid right now, tbh.

[DPG21920]

TP is beast moding. GH3 just looks completely outclassed. GH3 actually passing well, but his energy is low and TP is shredding him on offense.

[Arcadian]

Tim's jumper is automatic.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

TP is soooooo smooth when he's locked in.

[Uriel]

It's amazing how well Duncan is playing to start the season. I really wonder how much longer he can keep this up.

[Paranoid Pop]

Neal at the 2 and Green at the 3 is just weak defensively.

[Manu-20]

Duncan and parker show to start this game, looking forward to seeing if splitter can build on his performance from last game.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tony and Timmy with great start. Spurs need to play better defense. Too many open looks for the Pacers

[Uriel]

Neal at the 2 and Green at the 3 is just weak defensively.
Not like we have much of a choice.

[Juggity]

It's amazing how well Duncan is playing to start the season. I really wonder how much longer he can keep this up.

At the moment, he's got to be a top 5-10 MVP candidate

[BillMc]

Neal at the 2 and Green at the 3 is just weak defensively.

Not much we can do with Leonard and Jackson out.

[timvp]

Parker has scored or assisted on last 14 points.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh, crap. No Sean and no Bill Land. They call Andrew Monaco the fan favorite, but I would like to know what fans like him. Certainly not me


^Yeah, Monaco tries too hard, IMO.

We should trade Land and Monaco to NO for Joel Meyers and Jason Smith... or just for Meyers! :lmao

[timvp]

God-mode Parker is a joy to watch. Hopefully he keeps it up.

[ace3g]

Boris playing SF...

[ace3g]

nevermind, thought Blair was staying in

[DPG21920]

GH3 is going to be embarrassed tbh...When he see's what TP is doing to him on film and how low his own energy level is, he will be red faced. GH3 is not even trying - very little effort on screens, on offense or any where. It's like he has the flu :lol

[siraulo23]

tp off to a great start

[Juggity]

10 pts 5 assists, halfway through the first. Wow.

[bklynspursfan]

Where da to haters at lol

[timvp]

Diaw gives up an offensive rebound and then next possession gets beat backdoor. Bad start :td

[blackfire12]

hope splitter comes out mad as hell again

[phxspurfan]

Psycho T...what a weird player

[Sa_Spursfan20]

Parker is going ham. Certainly is helping my fantasy team. :lol

[DPG21920]

GH3's defens:lol

[timvp]

God-mode TP but Spurs only up by 7. Little worrisome, tbh.

[Uriel]

God-mode TP but Spurs only up by 7. Little worrisome, tbh.
Paranoid, tbh.

[bbarry]

pop timeout :lmao

[timvp]

"I guaranteed Parker won't play this well the whole game."










Just getting it out of the way so a CoM-y doesn't have to come in and state the obvious, tbh.

[Spurs Brazil]

Parker on fire. Excellent start for him

[timvp]

Paranoid, tbh.

Probably true, fwiw.

[DPG21920]

I know Granger is out, but putting GH3 as a full time NBA PG is probably a large reason whey they are struggling. He just does not do anything well enough, consistently enough to warrant that type of trust. Good player, somewhat versatile, but you can see tonight his massive limitations as an NBA starter.

[Bill_Brasky]

Parker in mash mode. Let's see what Splitter gives us.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Manu is finally showing his age this year, but TP certainly isn't, and he's an incredible player to watch when he decides to destroy.

[timvp]

Bad shot Manu. Too aggressive D by TP.

[timvp]

Splitter with an arm sleeve? :rolleyes

[ace3g]

Splitter with an arm sleeve? :rolleyes

he wears those a lot of the time

[timvp]

he wears those a lot of the time

Don't remember seeing it in recent games. Could be wrong though.

[DPG21920]

Nando coming in.

[Uriel]

Wow.

[spurraider21]

cmon tiago throw it down. tries to finish palms up every time. but wow tony!

[Juggity]

Tp with a pretty sweet spin move

[Uriel]

WTF Manu

[timvp]

Parker missed.

Trade him.

[DPG21920]

Manu with the Tim Duncan chip shot miss change the momentum bads

[Juggity]

Manu lookin bad out there on both ends

[blackfire12]

oh lol didn't know pacers had mahinmi

[spurraider21]

Parker missed.

Trade him.
yeah parker bonner blair neal for chris paul

[timvp]

Mahinmi has sucked this year. Why the hell would a team give him $16M :lol

[blackfire12]

Mahinmi has sucked this year. Why the hell would a team give him $16M :lol

even bigger lol

[siraulo23]

de colo is in

[Uriel]

Mahinmi has sucked this year. Why the hell would a team give him $16M :lol
"All-star potential" - Sam Presti

[DPG21920]

Mahinmi has sucked this year. Why the hell would a team give him $16M :lol

Because he is a championship level big man. Also, this is the same team that paid GH3 to be their full time starter at PG.

[Juggity]

Manu takes and misses the transition 3

[timvp]

Mahinmi is a hoss.

Why did the Spurs ever let him go :l

[Bill_Brasky]

De Colo is a terrible shooter...

[TE]

C'mon manu

[Paranoid Pop]

Nando's shot wasn't even close....

[TE]

De Colo is a terrible shooter...
Not his best ability

[Cry Havoc]

Memphis 34
LAL 18

end of Q1

:lol

[urunobili]

Manu trash lately

[DPG21920]

:lol Timvp hatin on Ian after watching him play damn well on the biggest stage. You play well in the finals, you have potential /story.

[timvp]

Because he is a championship level big man. Also, this is the same team that paid GH3 to be their full time starter at PG.

Yeah paying Hill $40M is pretty damn outrageous when he's truthfully a really good third guard.

[BillMc]

Manu still not himself.

[ElNono]

tbh, I have the Lakeshow on my browser getting destroyed in Memphis while I watch the Spurs on TV... so probably won't comment much

[Uriel]

Memphis 34
LAL 18

end of Q1

:lol
At this point, I'm actually more interested in rooting for a Grizzlies' loss than a Lakers' one.

[pgardn]

Tiago...The requisite inability to finish...

[timvp]

tbh, TP is on fire and Manu isn't... so probably won't comment much

Fixed :)

[blackfire12]

Manu still not himself.

it might be a while...

[Cry Havoc]

tbh, I have the Lakeshow on my browser getting destroyed in Memphis while I watch the Spurs on TV... so probably won't comment much

:lol I've got both on computer, with the LAL volume turned up, because I love hearing their announcer's sadness at their team taking a dump with Pringles.

[ElNono]

Fixed :)

tbh, Tony is indeed on fire... nothing to add there, IMO

[blackfire12]

:lol I've got both on computer, with the LAL volume turned up, because I love hearing their announcer's sadness at their team taking a dump with Pringles.

:lol

[timvp]

Speaking of bad contracts, was I dreaming or did the Pacers give Gerald Green $12M ?

[blackfire12]

okay now that was a sick move from manu

[timvp]

Ginobili with the slow motion goods.

[Cry Havoc]

Oooo manu

[Juggity]

Wow, that was a pretty nice move. Manu heating up?

[timvp]

El contortion? Just stop, Monaco, tbh.

[dbestpro]

If I was Indiana I would leave DeColo open.

[blackfire12]

Speaking of bad contracts, was I dreaming or did the Pacers give Gerald Green $12M ?

3yr/10m

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao @ green's face.

[foodie2]

El contortion? Just stop, Monaco, tbh.

Going to mute it soon.

[Juggity]

transition D looks not so good

[timvp]

3yr/10m
Still pretty outrageous for someone who the Nets plucked out of the D-League midseason.

[Cry Havoc]

Still pretty outrageous for someone who the Nets plucked out of the D-League midseason.

But he's athletic! I mean, he's no James White, but still!

[blackfire12]

Still pretty outrageous for someone who the Nets plucked out of the D-League midseason.

yeah.. i dont think the pacers can discern value very well...

[blackfire12]

then again we're getting beat now so who knows :rolleyes

[Manu-20]

What BS spurs play good D and they still score

[TE]

Holy hell two straight makes from two scrubs

[dbestpro]

Manu looks like he's gonna have one of those games where he might be play better without the ball in his hands.

[Uriel]

That awkward moment when you're bench gives up the lead rather than creates one.

[Cry Havoc]

What BS spurs play good D and they still score

We lead the league every year in bullshit points against us.

[ElNono]

can't buy a basket... Tiago needs to get another T and bring out the aggression

[Spurs Brazil]

And the bench give up another lead...

[timvp]

Bench has been pretty damn bad. The offense has consisted of Ginobili trying some slow motion drive/pass/shot. On the other end, bad transition D keeps causing mismatched.

[DPG21920]

TBH Ian has actually had a pretty nice influence since he's come in. Pacers lead now and Manu once again looking terrible and losing a lead.

[timvp]

I rarely say this but Manu needs to pass the ball more. 1-on-5 isn't working right now.

[DPG21920]

Funny thing is, you will look at the box score at the end of this one and see GH3 with a decent stat line (probably 16 points, 4 rebs, 8 ast, 2 stls) and think wow, but it will be empty.

[ElNono]

The problem is nobody can't create a shot, and DeColo and Diaw won't even shoot...

[dbestpro]

Patty Mills can match up with Augustine better than DeColo.

[ElNono]

lol rebounds

[DPG21920]

Manu just needs to stop doing what he can't do on a consistent basis any longer - just play through Tiago and more times than not you will see good things.

[spurraider21]

hansbrough a better version of blair tbh

[TE]

Can't buy a bucket or a break

[timvp]

Splitter/Diaw back to no rebounding.

[Uriel]

Our saviour is back.

[siraulo23]

our bench is getting destroyed

[Paranoid Pop]

Bench being rapped like against the Clips.

[Spurs Brazil]

Diaw horrible horrible horrible

[bklynspursfan]

So ,much for diaw and splitter rebounding the ball

[ElNono]

tbh, Tiago has been horrible too... owned by Mahimi of all people

[Libri]

What the hell?! Ian pulling a Tim banker.

[DPG21920]

Also, this just kind of shows what I was saying earlier - with Manu struggling, Tiago will too. Manu is so important to Tiago doing well and Manu just has not been cutting it consistently.

[timvp]

Splitter making Mahinmi look like Kareem Abdul-Mahinmi, per usual.

[Juggity]

Tim leaves the game, Spurs start sucking ass

[Paranoid Pop]

Splitter/Diaw back to no rebounding.

Or back to playing a team able to rebound?

[timvp]

Parker just had to box out Psycho T :lol

[Juggity]

Green's shot a little off tonight

[ElNono]

that's why Manu doesn't pass... Green can't make a shot

[DPG21920]

Ian trying to do Blake Griffin :wow

[timvp]

Splitter/Diaw zero defensive rebounds in 20 minutes :pctoss

[dbestpro]

Need some outside shooting. Might be a good time to give Bonner a little burn.

[timvp]

that's why Manu doesn't pass... Green can't make a shot

Manu is also psychic now.

[DPG21920]

I like Ian's ability to stick for the same reason I love Tiago - ability to get to the FT line when they play.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Wow nice pass Duncan

[spurraider21]

nice layup by blair. splitter would have missed that tonight

[Spurs Brazil]

Besides Tony and Timmy the rest of the team sucks. They need help

[Juggity]

Tim's passing ability :tu

[DPG21920]

Very happy Pop went back to Blair. Spurs need his energy right now but he has to play smart.

[ElNono]

Manu is also psychic now.

he's that good, tbh

[Paranoid Pop]

Pacers commentators extremly fair, they are great tbh.

[TE]

Gotta go on a run here.



Damnit pop, I don't like this momentum pausing timeout.

[Uriel]

Need some outside shooting. Might be a good time to give Bonner a little burn.

[spurraider21]

Need some outside shooting. Might be a good time to give Bonner a little burn.
:gpower

[ElNono]

I'm glad we have Tony, he's gonna lead us to victory tonight

[Arcadian]

Beautiful pass from Tim.

[Spurs Brazil]

Hansbrough 11rebs.

Tiago/Diaw combo not working. Getting killed on the boards every game

[Splits]

6 offensive boards through a quarter and a half for the Pacers. The problem is back.

[timvp]

Green keeps falling asleep on D.

[DPG21920]

For those that don't know - Hibbert had a crazy weird statline last game: 25% FG, but 10 points, 11 rebounds and 11 blocks for a triple double.

[timvp]

Come on Manu. Time for one of your patented intragame bouncebacks.

[boutons_deux]

only Tony has more than 6 pts

0-5 on 3G

killed on the boards and AST

[Russ]

Green keeps falling asleep on D.

He needs to wake up on one end or the other.

[Russ]

Green keeps falling asleep on D.

He needs to wake up on one end or the other.

[DPG21920]

:wow What a pass from Roy and sick finish by George.

[blackfire12]

alright, good to see tim getting in it

[timvp]

Would the score be any different if it was just TP and TD playing 2-on-5?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

What do you mean how many times has he practiced that shot, Who would know the answer to that.

[DPG21920]

Tim vs Hibbert is pretty fun - Tim owning him though. Great pass again from Hibbert though.

[Bill_Brasky]

What a move from Tim.

[ElNono]

we're in the bonus... time to go to the rack

[Uriel]

Would the score be any different if it was just TP and TD playing 2-on-5?
Yeah, we'd be ahead.

[spurraider21]

I'll probably stop watching basketball when Tim hangs em up. This team won't do much without him

[DPG21920]

Sean commenting on how both Blair/Tiago working hard on FT's and so far he's right, the returns have been excellent.

[timvp]

Damn, TD in foul trouble? First time this season, IIRC.

[loveforthegame]

Ugh. 3rd foul on Duncan.

[Bill_Brasky]

3 on Duncan.

[timvp]

Gotta take Duncan out. Too dangerous that he'll pick up a 4th defending Hibbert.

[ElNono]

Green fucking up

[timvp]

Green garbage tonight, unfortch.

[Bill_Brasky]

Everybody getting flustered but Duncan. Chillax, Spurs....

[loveforthegame]

Hope Green wakes up before its too late.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Wow Green looks so out of it.

[Libri]

More fouls on Tim than Mahinmi. Ian used to be a foul magnet. :/

[dbestpro]

Green really struggling at SF.

[Paranoid Pop]

GTFO Green.

[ace3g]

give JA a chance

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

YES MANU take advantage of the slow guy

[Spurs Brazil]

Please sit Green. Worst game of the season

[timvp]

Manu bounceback forthcoming per par.

[Bill_Brasky]

Finally Manu makes a legit move.

[Uriel]

:lol WCF Green

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

another short shot.

[ElNono]

damn manu... not even the side of a barn

[DPG21920]

There you go Manu, sick drive. Hibbert takes some really, really tough shots. Against great defenders too - maybe that's why his FG is so bad right now.

[blackfire12]

no KL or SJAX is showing but it isn't off by that much tbh

[timvp]

OMG. Can't shoot tonight.

[Uriel]

We haven't hit a 3 all game, and we're only down 3.

[Bill_Brasky]

We can't hit a 3 tonight.

[Warlord23]

Can't hit the broadside of a barn against a shit team

[DPG21920]

TP needs to recognize what the deal is and be a little greedy. Take 25 shots tonight tbh...

[dbestpro]

Manu and Green shooting like DeColo.

[Ghjkll]

Manu´s shot is broken. Fuck.

[BillMc]

Manu and Green can't hit a jumper tonight.

[Uriel]

By the way, Danny Green has had 30 straight games with at least one 3 pointer -- longest in the NBA. That seems to be on the line tonight.

[pgardn]

We play this poorly and hang...

Good sign.

[timvp]

Need Neal in for Green right here.

[Libri]

First they get the flu and now they have brickitis.

[ElNono]

2-9 from downtown... it'll even out...

[loveforthegame]

Wouldn't hurt to give JA a chance. Surely we didn't sign him to sit on the bench.

[timvp]

2-9 from downtown... it'll even out...

Manu is 2-for-9 from field. Spurs are 0-for-9 from downtown, tbh.

[Kidd K]

Parker and Duncan both looking pretty good so far. Manu looking pretty bad again. Sloppy ball handling, sloppy passing, and his shooting is off too.

Parker in particular, damn. . .dude is just lighting it up the last few games. Looks like he's fully recovered from the flu now. His energy is back to it's normal levels. :)



Scott Agness ‏@ScottAgness (https://twitter.com/ScottAgness)Danny Granger, who's still on crutches, was back around the team today for the 1st time since having an injection in his left knee on Nov 6.

Damn. . .that's not good news for the Pacers. Thanks for the post man.

[ElNono]

Manu is 2-for-9 from field. Spurs are 0-for-9 from downtown, tbh.

thx

[blackfire12]

tp is gonna bail us out

[timvp]

Parker playing like Game 6 WCF. Manu playing like Game 6 WCF. Green playing like Game 1-6 WCF.

[bklynspursfan]

Bench has 3 rebounds. Smh

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

George hill is still taller than parker. And our bigs need to grab a damn rebound.

[Uriel]

We couldn't grad a rebound if our life depended on it.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tiago and Diaw SUCKS

[ElNono]

the game gets considerably more difficult if you can't rebound the ball...

[Uriel]

Gary Neal is the only non-international player on the floor for us. :)

[Warlord23]

The absence of Leonard and Jackson really hurting us on the boards

[spurraider21]

green got completely blown by and there wasn't even a screen... led to a paul george 3

[Warlord23]

Shameful play from everyone other than Parker and Duncan

[TE]

That kind of game

[dbestpro]

Looks like the "soft" Spurs are back on the court tonight.

[Cry Havoc]

When did this team forget how to shoot threes? I don't think I've ever seen a Spurs team that shoots so poorly.

[Spurs Brazil]

Green defense :lol :lol :lol

[boutons_deux]

0-9 3G

spurs only -2 RB

[ElNono]

Manu is 2-10 from the field, yet he's the 3rd highest scorer... need more from the role players

[loveforthegame]

Duncan and Parker need help in the second half. I don't care who it is but somebody needs to man up.

[timvp]

Green gets his azz burned on a simple move by Hill. Manu loses track of a player who just hit 9 three-pointers last game.

:rolleyes

[Spurs Brazil]

Tiago/Diaw game against the Celtics was a fluke. They've been bad the whole season.

[urunobili]

Why is De Colo ahead of Mills on the rotation?

[Uriel]

Are our defensive rebounding woes purely personnel issues? Or is it because of the revamped defense the Spurs have tried to introduce this season? Pop's system, after all, had always emphasized defensive rebounding and transition defense over crashing the boards and running the break.

[timvp]

Outside of TP and TD, Spurs are 5-for-23............

[Cry Havoc]

Why is De Colo ahead of Mills on the rotation?

De Colo probably hangs out with Bonner more often.

[ElNono]

Are our defensive rebounding woes purely personnel issues? Or is it because of the revamped defense the Spurs have tried to introduce this season? Pop's system, after all, had always emphasized defensive rebounding and transition defense over crashing the boards and running the break.

personnel... we just don't have bigs that are good rebounders career-wise... Blair might be the exception, but he regressed considerably

[Libri]

Hansbrough 11 rebounds :wow

Splitter/Diaw/Blair 3 rebounds, smh

[letmk]

When Manu cannot shot, it makes no sense pairing De Colo with him. Put Mills in if we have to play one of them.

[TE]

Hansbrough 11 rebounds :wow

Splitter/Diaw/Blair 3 rebounds, smh
:lmao

[timvp]

Half empty: TP and TD play near perfect half yet Spurs are losing.

Half full: Spurs are 0-for-10 on threes, haven't rebounded, haven't gotten anything from role players ... yet are only down 4.





Not sure how I see the glass, tbh.

[Warlord23]

If this offensive drought continues, Pop needs to get Mills and (gulp) Bonner in there