Plantar fasciitis

[ashbeeigh]

Have any of you athletes had to deal with this? I feel like Tim Duncan with this icky pain in my foot (remember when he had it and it was a big deal?) What did y'all do to get rid of it or did you just keep training through it?

Mine started after switching from Nike shoes to Brooks right when my mileage went from about 15 to 25 per week when training for RNR. I thought it was just because I increased the mileage and held back a bit after the race but then when I started to run again this past week it was horrible. I could hardly make it back to the car after my run on Thursday and am foregoing my long run today because it hurts to stand on it.

I've done some foam rolling, ice and some advil. Has anyone done anything else to get this thing to go away? I'd really hate to stop training for the next half that I have coming up in January.

[Trainwreck2100]

drop the brooks, get a minimalist for starters. Mine didn't go away till I got the cortisone shot

[mrsmaalox]

I've never had it, but I think what you are doing for it and rsting is about all that can be done. Sorry about that :(

[ashbeeigh]

drop the brooks, get a minimalist for starters. Mine didn't go away till I got the cortisone shot

I'm thinking the same thing. Not necessarily minimalist but something more normal and not motion controlled because I do overpronate.

Thanks for the sympathy, maalox. It sure is a pain!

[Trainwreck2100]

also take up swimming, and cut down on your run load

[Sportcamper]

Girl you need to see a specialist and follow the medical advice…In the mean time cut back on activities that make your feet hurt... Try not to walk or run on hard surfaces… Do toe stretches , calf stretches and towel stretches several times a day, especially when you first get up in the morning…

The question you have to ask yourself is, is your jogging really worth it? Do you want to walk with a limp at age 50? My advice is to stop jogging unless it is on wet grass at your local parks or golf courses…Get into bicycling…You can ride a bike your entire life, jogging, 10 k’s marathoons don’t last forever…

[ashbeeigh]

Girl you need to see a specialist and follow the medical advice…In the mean time cut back on activities that make your feet hurt... Try not to walk or run on hard surfaces… Do toe stretches , calf stretches and towel stretches several times a day, especially when you first get up in the morning…

The question you have to ask yourself is, is your jogging really worth it? Do you want to walk with a limp at age 50? My advice is to stop jogging unless it is on wet grass at your local parks or golf courses…Get into bicycling…You can ride a bike your entire life, jogging, 10 k’s marathoons don’t last forever…

Wow. What a dream killer.

[Fabbs]

Agree with others. Go see a specialist.
Getting massaged by a hunky therapist might work for you. Along with stretching.
But you really need to have a specialist i.d. exactly what it is you have.

I had pf bad but the therapist/chiro worked it out in about 6 sessions. (Mine was a chick, sorry trolls).

[Das Texan]

Goto a shoe specialist and get fitted for proper running shoes.

Brooks from my experience sucks.

Dont really run until the pain is basically gone.

Bike riding puts pressure on your joints just like running can. So whatevers.

[CuckingFunt]

I agree with the suggestions to see a specialist, if you can. I think a lot of times foot pain is indiscriminately labeled plantar fasciitis without thoroughly considering other potential causes or without paying enough attention to differences in severity.

I had plantar fasciitis several years ago when I stopped dancing regularly, and though it was painful as hell at the time, it wasn't terribly severe. I got a prescription for Vicodin that I didn't even need and had a whole routine of stretches suggested to me (most of them, not surprisingly, were similar to all the tendus and other dance stretches/foot warmups I had been doing most of my life), noticed improvement immediately, and was completely pain free within a month. And while I'm aware my right foot has been more susceptible to pain/stress than it used to be, I've been largely pain free ever since.

A few years later, however, my aunt was also diagnosed with plantar fasciitis and was given all the same drugs and information that I was, and it did absolutely nothing for her. Noting did. Not stretching, not resting her foot, not pain meds, not anything. She's eventually had to get a cortisone shot a few times, and will likely have to keep doing so, but even that hasn't really solved the problem. She still feels pain if she walks more than a few blocks at a time. And she's a former cyclist who has always been in excellent shape.

Point being, it's possible that we weren't both suffering from plantar fasciitis, since our experiences have been so different, but it's certain we shouldn't both have been just sent home with the same diagnosis and advice. Your feet are important enough to be worth seeking out personalized advice. Especially since running is so important to you.

[CuckingFunt]

Also, I agree with the swimming suggestion. It's a fantastic workout that, while not completely free of risk, is pretty kind to your bones and joints. Adding swimming to your regular routine could give you the same benefits of increasing your miles (except perhaps when you're specifically getting ready for an upcoming run, or something) without adding more and more stress to your legs and feet.

Not to mention that swimming is about a bajillion times more fun/enjoyable than running, which sucks and is horrible.

[ashbeeigh]

Not to mention that swimming is about a bajillion times more fun/enjoyable than running, which sucks and is horrible.

Thanks for the advice, CF. I know you hate running. I happen to enjoy the ability to out in the fresh air with my music and the road. I know we will never agree on the enjoyability of running.

I really wish I could afford to go to a specialist (I need to go to Arosti for my general misaligned body) but won't have insurance to cover it until February, the week after the next half that I signed up for.

[Fabbs]

If you are gonna swim, be forewarned about chlorine and other baddies in H2O.
http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2012/11/23/water-workouts.aspx?e_cid=20121123_PRNL_art_2

[CosmicCowboy]

Agree with the podiatrist. Been there, done that. The exercises didn't work, cortisone didn't work. Ultra sound on the heel to make it scar over finally worked.

[DMC]

I had it. I had to have my leg removed just below the knee. Sorry.

[ashbeeigh]

I had it. I had to have my leg removed just below the knee. Sorry.

Shut up. :lol

[Sportcamper]

Wow. What a dream killer.

Sorry about that…Did not mean to crush your dreams…:lol...What I meant to say is that I had to give up jogging and I am really into cycling…

[CavsSuperFan]

Bike riding puts pressure on your joints just like running can.

Public schools?

[TDMVPDPOY]

lebomb has a toe fetish, maybe u can let him suck on it, might cure ur PF

[Latarian Milton]

sorry to learn your suffering but what's the point for a women in participating in such a training? don't think it's easy for a woman to run while swining her ass left and right exaggeratedly tbh

[sonnytris]

Get from a foot docter a good pair of orthotics for your feet

[ashbeeigh]

I taped my foot and took some advil this morning. It didn't hurt nearly as bad as it did after my run last Thursday. I'm still going to keep an eye on it, but I feel like it's just another ache on my left side because my body is so out of whack because of my cerebral palsy.

[mrsmaalox]

Ash, were you ever a tiptoe walker as a kid?

[ashbeeigh]

Ash, were you ever a tiptoe walker as a kid?

I still am to an extent. I know my gait gives me lots of problems. It's all very subtle but still there.

[mrsmaalox]

I still am to an extent. I know my gait gives me lots of problems. It's all very subtle but still there.

You're comment about the cp and your left side triggered a thought about your Achilles tendon. My daughter was an extreme preemie, born with undeveloped (shortened) Achilles tendons which caused her to be a tiptoe walker; it was something we were told she would grow out of as her legs and feet stretched out. She started gymnastics at age 5 and then got real active in soccer and basketball about age 8 and started having the plantar fasciitis off and on. After a couple of years it almost incapacitated her. Her orthopedic doc explained it wasn't a result of an injury or overuse, but it was the shortened Achilles tendon that was causing the pf because it couldn't accomodate her activity level. He put her on a strict schedule of stretching therapy (it was a REAL hassle) and prescribed ONLY New Balance shoes for at least a year, and let her continue with gymnastics only, which she still does. The PF resolved, as did the tip toe walking. They also recommended botox injections into the Achilles to relax it and help it stretch, but we were able to avoid that.

[ashbeeigh]

Thanks for that maalox. I'm like 99% sure that most of my trouble stems from the tightness and all that stuff. Once I think I've kicked something, something else pops up. first it was horrible anterior shin splints, then it was the hip problems and now this. The day I can afford to see a specialist will be the best day.

[Koolaid_Man]

Have any of you athletes had to deal with this? I feel like Tim Duncan with this icky pain in my foot (remember when he had it and it was a big deal?) What did y'all do to get rid of it or did you just keep training through it?

Mine started after switching from Nike shoes to Brooks right when my mileage went from about 15 to 25 per week when training for RNR. I thought it was just because I increased the mileage and held back a bit after the race but then when I started to run again this past week it was horrible. I could hardly make it back to the car after my run on Thursday and am foregoing my long run today because it hurts to stand on it.

I've done some foam rolling, ice and some advil. Has anyone done anything else to get this thing to go away? I'd really hate to stop training for the next half that I have coming up in January.

you should wear more eye liner, dark shadow, and arch your eye-brows just a tad....go a bit lighter on the make up...almost looks like you're been tanning..otherwise you have a nice MILF look...

[Summers]

I had what I thought was PF for several months. My family practitioner told me to just try to not walk on it much until it subsided. I got fed up with not being able to go anywhere so I made an appt with a podiatrist and it took him less than one minute to look at my foot and say "You don't have plantar fasciitis... you have extremely high arches. Here." He gave me some $30 shoe inserts to support my arch and *instantly* I could walk around like a normal person. I used my tennies with the inserts for a few months and now I can pretty much wear any shoe I want as long as it has some arch support. My point is... get thee to a podiatrist. :)

[ashbeeigh]

I had what I thought was PF for several months. My family practitioner told me to just try to not walk on it much until it subsided. I got fed up with not being able to go anywhere so I made an appt with a podiatrist and it took him less than one minute to look at my foot and say "You don't have plantar fasciitis... you have extremely high arches. Here." He gave me some $30 shoe inserts to support my arch and *instantly* I could walk around like a normal person. I used my tennies with the inserts for a few months and now I can pretty much wear any shoe I want as long as it has some arch support. My point is... get thee to a podiatrist. :)

Lucky you. From everything I've looked at and been told I have like almost no arch. I feel like it's there, but almost 6 years of wearing almost nothing but Old Navy flip-flops and ballet flats has caught up to me little arch. I'm glad your feet are doing better, Summers. :)

[ashbeeigh]

you should wear more eye liner, dark shadow, and arch your eye-brows just a tad....go a bit lighter on the make up...almost looks like you're been tanning..otherwise you have a nice MILF look...

How does adding more eye liner and dark shadow equal wearing less make-up? You're so dumb.

[cantthinkofanything]

LOL. Leave it to Spurstalk to provide Wikipedia advice and living 10 years behind the real world. Go see a specialist and ask about Plantar Hypotherapy and/or Plantar Microsurgery (it's an outpatient procedure). Most people don't even need the microsurgery but both treatments are inexpensive when compared to the more "traditional" methods.

[Koolaid_Man]

How does adding more eye liner and dark shadow equal wearing less make-up? You're so dumb.

I'm not an expert on make-up but as a woman you should know that eye liner and dark shadow around the eyes would give you more appeal...I was trying to be kind and help you out by pointing out that you have two tones of shade on your face...perhaps it's from tanning / sun exposure...or perhaps it's from a heavy application hand...

you're so much sexier when trying to project anger...keep it up I like it...:hat now go fix your make-up

[cantthinkofanything]

I'm not an expert on make-up but as a woman you should know that eye liner and dark shadow around the eyes would give you more appeal...I was trying to be kind and help you out by pointing out that you have two tones of shade on your face...perhaps it's from tanning / sun exposure...or perhaps it's from a heavy application hand...

you're so much sexier when trying to project anger...keep it up I like it...:hat now go fix your make-up

Don't listen to Kool...he looks like shit


http://www.welaf.com/uploads/201011/15/imgs/1289875749_ugliest-woman-in-the-world.jpg

[Koolaid_Man]

Don't listen to Kool...he looks like shit


http://www.welaf.com/uploads/201011/15/imgs/1289875749_ugliest-woman-in-the-world.jpg

:lol yes I do... ;-)

but I was just trying to help her out and she started insulting me...she's too old to be acting like that...very weird /strange behavior coming from someone her age... I suspect she's still upset that I told her that letting her kids be cheer leaders instead of playing real sports was bad for the kids in the long run...I know I'm right about that as well as I am about her make-up...

[cantthinkofanything]

:lol yes I do... ;-)

but I was just trying to help her out and she started insulting me...she's too old to be acting like that...very weird /strange behavior coming from someone her age... I suspect she's still upset that I told her that letting her kids be cheer leaders instead of playing real sports was bad for the kids in the long run...I know I'm right about that as well as I am about her make-up...

I didn't read all that but I agree with you about your take on cheerleading. And I get it that it's hard and all that and takes some level of physical prowess. But any "sport" where awards are subjectively determined by judges isn't really a sport. And further, a "sport" that's based on providing support for another sport???? Give me a break...

Not saying they aren't important...every school needs a pregnant cheerleader once in a while to remind everyone to not have unprotected sex.

[Dr.Scholl]

I think you should be gellin'.

[CosmicCowboy]

Thanks for the advice, CF. I know you hate running. I happen to enjoy the ability to out in the fresh air with my music and the road. I know we will never agree on the enjoyability of running.

I really wish I could afford to go to a specialist (I need to go to Arosti for my general misaligned body) but won't have insurance to cover it until February, the week after the next half that I signed up for.

I know a perv podiatrist that would probably comp you for a blow job.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Might I suggest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO-SBPTF5E

[Twisted_Dawg]

I know a perv podiatrist that would probably comp you for a blow job.

Shame on you CC.

[ploto]

Ash-- Did you ever go see the guys at Fleet Feet. Obviously, they are not podiatrists, but they are experts at fitting shoes, orthotics, etc... They will analyze your gait and everything. They might be able to recommend something to help and they cost you nothing, except for if you buy something in the store.

[ashbeeigh]

Ash-- Did you ever go see the guys at Fleet Feet. Obviously, they are not podiatrists, but they are experts at fitting shoes, orthotics, etc... They will analyze your gait and everything. They might be able to recommend something to help and they cost you nothing, except for if you buy something in the store.

I did get myself analyzed at Soler's on Jackson Keller (mainly because it's closer to me). After my third pair of shoes there I think I might need to try a new store. They're nice enough and know what they are talking about, to an extent, but if you don't like the one or three shoes they show you you're fucked. They had like 3 pairs of motion controlled shoes the last time I went. One was $110 and the other $130 after the 20% or something discount I had with LLS. Obviously, I'm willing to pay for the shoes, but the last pair I got were the Brooks and the PF started shortly after I broke them in. That store is smaller, so maybe something bigger would help. Perhaps I'll make it to Fleet Feet. :)

[DMC]

How does adding more eye liner and dark shadow equal wearing less make-up? You're so dumb.

He's trying too hard to be someone trying to be Silky Jones.

1. Lebomb
2. Trill
3. Kool
4. Purplenpiss


All pretty much the same trolling schtick.

[JamStone]

I had it multiple times in college. I played basketball everyday and had to stop at least initially each time. The pain varied day to day from tolerable to annoying to pretty painful. I just went to the university medical services, not some specialist. But I remember them telling me that there wasn't anything specific I could do to make it go away faster. They told me just limit as much strenuous walking/running as much as possible. And that it would probably run its course in a couple months. I ended up playing basketball on it after a few days or maybe a week or so just because I was a gym rat in college and couldn't stay away. Unless there's a better way to manage it than back then, I think you may just have to deal with it until it goes away after a couple months.

[to21]

I had been dealing with mine for almost a full year....till I went to see a specialist. Also, started to focus on really getting a good lengthy stretch in before I run.

[PM5K]

milf, lol.

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn Ash, you have really lost a lot of weight.

[Biernutz]

I had a severe case of Planter fasciitis. It started with light pain in heel on one side. Over time it got worse and I could barely walk with the pain on the outsides of my heel. I went to a podiatrist to have it checked out. He took x-rays and told me ---yes I had plantar fasciitis. My tendons were inflamed and my heel felt like i had a very bad bone bruise. I tried stretching and using the fasciitis support every night. It didn't work and back to the podiatrist. This time he gave me a shot in my heel that hurt like hell. It worked and I got some relief for about 30 days then It came back. I got 2 more rounds of shots with with shots were just not helping. I had bought innersoles, heel cups different socks at stores with no good results. We were at the point were he said some custom innersoles at about $400. I saw a sample of the intersoles and they felt very hard. I asked if there was anything softer that that. He said for his high school runners he recommended NEW BALANCE Pressure relief innersoles from the NEW BALANCE store. I went to the store at the FORUM and got a set of the pressure relief with metatarsal pad. They cost about $41 a set. They come in sizes to fit your shoe size. I slipped set into my work boots that I have to wear for work. Almost right away I felt a difference. The shoes felt better day by day and the pain started to fade away day by day. In 60 days I was almost pain free with just a hint of soreness. I have started to work out again pain free. I still keep up with my foot stretches and use the intersoles in other shoes but I am pain free now. I would use these innersoles and make sure my shoes are fitted for the way you roll your foot when you run our walk.

http://www.aperfectdealer.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/scstore/sitepages/tekfit.html?E+scstore

http://running.about.com/od/shoesapparelandgear/a/foottypes.htm

[Kamala]

Don't walk around the house bare footed. My doctor suggested those ugly crocs. Let me tell you walking around the house in those helps.

[Biernutz]

I use crocs around the house all the time. They are very soft on your feet. Another thing my podiatrist showed my was how to lace my shoes. You need to lace your shoes so your heel does not feel loose. This runners lacing keeps your shoe heel tight and it really works.

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/locklacing.htm

[DeadlyDynasty]

It must be bad, cause it's turned Antonio Gates into a female.

[cantthinkofanything]

It must be bad, cause it's turned Antonio Gates into a female.

guess that makes it more acceptable for your fantasy buttsex with him

[DeadlyDynasty]

guess that makes it more acceptable for your fantasy buttsex with him
Good thing I don't need to fantasize about having buttsex with your mom.

[mrsmaalox]

So how's it going Ash? Any better? I was just re-reading this thread and I noticed someone else's doctor also put them in New Balance shoes for PF---must be something to that. I hurt my L knee in bed (yup :lol) about a week ago and I was scared it would hobble me; but I ran through it and it recovered in a couple of days, thank goodness!


Ash-- Did you ever go see the guys at Fleet Feet. Obviously, they are not podiatrists, but they are experts at fitting shoes, orthotics, etc... They will analyze your gait and everything. They might be able to recommend something to help and they cost you nothing, except for if you buy something in the store.

Ploto, have you done any of (or heard anything about) the instructional programs at Fleet Feet? I'm considering the 5 to 10K class in January. I did the Couch to 5K on my own, but I'm thinking I may benefit from some professional instruction as I progress. I'm not particularly excited about group instruction, the thing I love about running is doing it alone, but who knows it could be fun and if nothing else I'll meet people with similar skill level to compare myself to.

[ashbeeigh]

So how's it going Ash? Any better? I was just re-reading this thread and I noticed someone else's doctor also put them in New Balance shoes for PF---must be something to that. I hurt my L knee in bed (yup :lol) about a week ago and I was scared it would hobble me; but I ran through it and it recovered in a couple of days, thank goodness!

It is getting better. I've been wrapping my arch after watching a few youtube videos. My current ache is my second toe because I was wearing the shoes that didn't hurt my PF but apparently my feet swell when I run so it bumps into the top and now it's like ugh. So, I switched back to the Brooks. For Christmas I need to go get some new shoes.

And I know you didn't ask me about the Fleet Feet thing, but I've heard good things about it. We would run past their training group on Saturdays downtown. I always saw coaches with the runners so it looks like you get a lot of support with them.

[ashbeeigh]

I think I just need to turn this thread into the ashbeeigh injury thread. I'm pretty sure that I sprained my second toe from wearing the Nikes instead of the Brooks. Man. It hurts.

[Trainwreck2100]

that's what you get for running in Nikes

[ashbeeigh]

that's what you get for running in Nikes

The PF stated in the Brooks. That's why I switched back.

[mrsmaalox]

It is getting better. I've been wrapping my arch after watching a few youtube videos. My current ache is my second toe because I was wearing the shoes that didn't hurt my PF but apparently my feet swell when I run so it bumps into the top and now it's like ugh. So, I switched back to the Brooks. For Christmas I need to go get some new shoes.


I think I just need to turn this thread into the ashbeeigh injury thread. I'm pretty sure that I sprained my second toe from wearing the Nikes instead of the Brooks. Man. It hurts.

Not to sound like a broken record but....."New Balance" ;) Maybe even just their inserts if you don't want to buy the shoes. I've read that Dr Scholl's has a pretty good line of motion inserts too.

[Trill Clinton]

ashbeeigh...can we get a pic of your feets?

[ashbeeigh]

ashbeeigh...can we get a pic of your feets?

aahahahahaha. ahahahahaha. I can't stop laughing. No.

[Trill Clinton]

aahahahahaha. ahahahahaha. I can't stop laughing. No.

:depressed

[ashbeeigh]

:depressed

There's a joke within your question that you don't get.

[Trill Clinton]

There's a joke within your question that you don't get.

well i was just hoping to see your pedicured feets.

i hope the fascitis didn't jack em up.