1 on 1. Prime vs Prime

[100%duncan]

Who'd win MJ or Duncan?

[FYM]

:lol Philippines

[RudyRay]

Jordan without a doubt...

[JRHernandez88]

whoever gets the ball first

[Richie]

neither could guard the other

[dirk4mvp]

look at these asshole spurfans, trying to be diplomatic.

[purplengold]

prolly Jordan, he gon get a steal somewhere n can hit the 3 automatic when he feel like it. They canna guard eachother tho

[rayjayjohnson]

:lmao spurfans

[JRHernandez88]

Lol nuggets fans no rings

[JRHernandez88]

:lmao spurfans
Only teams with GOATS allowed in this thread bro sorry :(

[JRHernandez88]

You can always participate in the dunk of the year tho, I mean Iggys a good dunker :) yayyyy

[Juggity]

prolly Jordan, he gon get a steal somewhere n can hit the 3 automatic when he feel like it. They canna guard eachother tho

Not that I'm a Jordan aficionado or ever saw him play, but from what I understand the 3 was the only weakness in his shooting game.

[JRHernandez88]

Not that I'm a Jordan aficionado or ever saw him play, but from what I understand the 3 was the only weakness in his shooting game.
Truth but his mid range game was nice

[rayjayjohnson]

You can always participate in the dunk of the year tho, I mean Iggys a good dunker :) yayyyy

Who the fuck is this douchebag anyway?

[purplengold]

Not that I'm a Jordan aficionado or ever saw him play, but from what I understand the 3 was the only weakness in his shooting game.

it was but when he feel like it he went ham from 3. his 3ball showed up when the team needed points n I'm guessin his ego will make him shoot the 3 like he Reggie miller

[JRHernandez88]

Who the fuck is this douchebag anyway?:depressed

[Jodelo]

Who the fuck is this douchebag anyway?

Someone who replies three times to the same quote...

[JRHernandez88]

Says the mavericks fan with more then 1500 post on a spurs forum :lol y'all boys is to funny

[pass1st]

:lol

[Riddler]

Says the mavericks fan with more then 1500 post on a spurs forum :lol y'all boys is to funny
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[Jodelo]

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:lmao

[JRHernandez88]

Lol Internet nerds

[JRHernandez88]

I don't tip I pay bills bitches call me buffalo

[Riddler]

I don't tip I pay bills bitches call me buffalo

Thuggin on the interwebs, pullin absolutely zero hoes

[JRHernandez88]

Fa sho

[BillMc]

In a one-on-one matchup a great big man will beat a great smaller man. In this case neither could stop the other, but on the rare cases Jordan misses, TD would be in a better position to get the rebound. On offense TD would get a much higher percentage of his own misses. This would allow Duncan to have a few more chances and win by a small margin.

[JRHernandez88]

oh i like that answer right there :lobt:

[JRHernandez88]

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/images/17/00/57/32/76/573276.gif&size=200x300lol thats funny tho

[rayjayjohnson]

Thuggin on the interwebs, pullin absolutely zero hoes

[JRHernandez88]

lol says the internet troll

[ambchang]

Not that I'm a Jordan aficionado or ever saw him play, but from what I understand the 3 was the only weakness in his shooting game.

Untrue.

Jordan was not that strong in shooting 3s, especially early in his career, but that is during an era when the 3 pointer was not as common as it is in today's game. Starting in the early 90s, Jordan was shooting 35%+ for a few years, and that is above average for a shooting guard in those days.

I would say the 3 pointer wasn't his strongest aspect, but it wasn't a weakness.

Back to the original, Jordan would have destroyed Duncan 1-1.

[purplengold]

Jordan vs Bird, all shots no less than 5 feet from da basket wouldda been interesting

[dbreiden83080]

Well if Duncan got the ball first he is just gonna back him down and put it in with either hand. Jordan is too fast for Duncan so he'd have to back way off and hope he misses some jumpers.. I'd favor Duncan because of the huge size difference and post game.. Also his shot blocking..

[dbreiden83080]

Untrue.

Jordan was not that strong in shooting 3s, especially early in his career, but that is during an era when the 3 pointer was not as common as it is in today's game. Starting in the early 90s, Jordan was shooting 35%+ for a few years, and that is above average for a shooting guard in those days.

I would say the 3 pointer wasn't his strongest aspect, but it wasn't a weakness.

Back to the original, Jordan would have destroyed Duncan 1-1.

I literally just saw Bulls/Knicks from 1993 the other day on NBA TV and Jordan was certainly consistent but by no means a great shooter. If Duncan gave him 20 ft jumpers he is not going to bury them all like Larry Bird.. Would have been awesome to see though..

[ambchang]

Jordan vs Bird, all shots no less than 5 feet from da basket wouldda been interesting

McDonald's already ran this competition back in 93 or something, I think they are still shooting for that Big Mac.

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[ambchang]

I literally just saw Bulls/Knicks from 1993 the other day on NBA TV and Jordan was certainly consistent but by no means a great shooter. If Duncan gave him 20 ft jumpers he is not going to bury them all like Larry Bird.. Would have been awesome to see though..

At the end of the day, Jordan's hyper-competitiveness will win out in this contest. No matter if it's a game of basketball, ping pong, horseshoe, or who can ruin a franchise the fastest, Jordan will always win.

[purplengold]

McDonald's already ran this competition back in 93 or something, I think they are still shooting for that Big Mac.

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prime bird gon make it mo interesting than brokeback bird

[Juggity]

Untrue.

Jordan was not that strong in shooting 3s, especially early in his career, but that is during an era when the 3 pointer was not as common as it is in today's game. Starting in the early 90s, Jordan was shooting 35%+ for a few years, and that is above average for a shooting guard in those days.

I would say the 3 pointer wasn't his strongest aspect, but it wasn't a weakness.

Back to the original, Jordan would have destroyed Duncan 1-1.

I think it was definitely a weakness earlier in Jordan's career. His career average is 32%, which for reference is about a percent lower than Kobe, king of the bad shooting percentages. Jordan's best 3 point shooting year in which he played the whole season (1995-96) isn't even as good as Danny Green's 3 pt shooting percentage last year.

Not sure exactly what the league average 3pt % was in the mid-90s, could only find stats from the mid-2000s: http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/john_schuhmann/03/04/3point.decline/index.html

Jordan's average is way below those, and his worst years (early in his career) were absolutely abysmal (13%, 18%, etc). Given the fact that the NBA shortened the distance of the 3pt shot in the mid-90s (1994-97), you would expect Jordan's averages to jump up significantly. Indeed, they did. But even that boost wasn't enough to pull him above the league average. And for the final three seasons he played, when the 3 pt shot was again extended to its current position, his percentages dropped back down to bad



1997-1998
.238


2001-2002
.189


2002-2003
.291


Jordan was the greatest player of all time, and his midrange game was phenomenal. I don't think anyone sensible will dispute that. But to me, his 3pt shooting was a clear weakness, and with the 3pt shot at its standard distance, he had even more difficulty.

[purplengold]

people forgetting Jordan guarded by faster players than Duncan n he still dominate, how many open 3s Jordan gon miss because he gon create shots easy. Duncan defense really only gonna slow Jordan if Jordan dumb enough ta let Duncan contest them. Jordan ego might get the betta of him that's it

this 1-1 so no help when Duncan lose jordan

[dbreiden83080]

At the end of the day, Jordan's hyper-competitiveness will win out in this contest. No matter if it's a game of basketball, ping pong, horseshoe, or who can ruin a franchise the fastest, Jordan will always win.

Duncan is plenty competitive and Jordan's trash talk would only elevate that.. 1 on 1 the larger man with the stellar post game will aways have the edge especially if he can also handle the ball and play great D and Duncan can do both... Duncan could take it 5 feet from the rim, turn around and with that insane wingspan hold over Jordan's head.. And Jordan could go around Tim with ease.. Would have been fun..

[JRHernandez88]

Truth.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I'd probably pick Jordan. I just don't see a good way for Duncan to guard him. While Jordan would have an uphill battle trying to guard Duncan in the post I could see him using his speed and jabbing away a steal or two when Tim tried to back him down. Would love to see that game happen, that's for sure. Someday when we figure out time travel this is the kind of thing the All Star weekend needs to feature.

[Stalin]

Says the mavericks fan with more then 1500 post on a spurs forum :lol y'all boys is to funny


sup, scrah

[Stalin]

At the end of the day, Jordan's hyper-competitiveness will win out in this contest. No matter if it's a game of basketball, ping pong, horseshoe, or who can ruin a franchise the fastest, Jordan will always win.


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[Latarian Milton]

In a one-on-one matchup a great big man will beat a great smaller man. In this case neither could stop the other, but on the rare cases Jordan misses, TD would be in a better position to get the rebound. On offense TD would get a much higher percentage of his own misses. This would allow Duncan to have a few more chances and win by a small margin.
true if the game is limited to the same half court. if they play a game one-on-one over the full court the smaller guy would hustle the shit out of the bigger one and win the game with ease imho

[ambchang]

I think it was definitely a weakness earlier in Jordan's career. His career average is 32%, which for reference is about a percent lower than Kobe, king of the bad shooting percentages. Jordan's best 3 point shooting year in which he played the whole season (1995-96) isn't even as good as Danny Green's 3 pt shooting percentage last year.

Not sure exactly what the league average 3pt % was in the mid-90s, could only find stats from the mid-2000s: http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/john_schuhmann/03/04/3point.decline/index.html

Jordan's average is way below those, and his worst years (early in his career) were absolutely abysmal (13%, 18%, etc). Given the fact that the NBA shortened the distance of the 3pt shot in the mid-90s (1994-97), you would expect Jordan's averages to jump up significantly. Indeed, they did. But even that boost wasn't enough to pull him above the league average. And for the final three seasons he played, when the 3 pt shot was again extended to its current position, his percentages dropped back down to bad



1997-1998
.238


2001-2002
.189


2002-2003
.291


Jordan was the greatest player of all time, and his midrange game was phenomenal. I don't think anyone sensible will dispute that. But to me, his 3pt shooting was a clear weakness, and with the 3pt shot at its standard distance, he had even more difficulty.

It is difficult to compare shooting percentages from different eras. Defenses are different, and emphasis on the 3 point shot is different. The 3 pointer didn't really become a serious weapon until around the late 80s, and then became an integral part of a team's offense in the mid-90s after the Rockets won b2b championships with that incredible inside out offense.

Sure, Jordan had some abysmal shooting seasons, but you have to look at sample size. Over his career, he was a very respectable 581-1778 (32.7% on 3s). The few seasons you quoted, he shot 126, 53 and 55 3 pters vs. >200 for his "good" seasons. To put those numbers in perspective, Bird, the best 3 pt shooter in the 80s, shot 37.6% for his career.

As for your comment on Kobe, he really isn't that bad of a 3 pt shooter, his issues are his shot selection despite the presence of some fantastic big man on his team. His main criticism is that he didn't fully utilize his teams strengths for the benefit of his own personal glory.

[JRHernandez88]

sup, scrah
What it do

[tp2021]

true if the game is limited to the same half court. if they play a game one-on-one over the full court the smaller guy would hustle the shit out of the bigger one and win the game with ease imho

Who really plays 1-on-1 full court though? All bout runnin back that halfcourt game til someone falls over.

[aal04]

6 inch + wingspan advantage is massive. TD is picking up nearly every single rebound here.

Im picking TD purely for height reasons. Jordan needs to be jumping very high every single shot and whenever someone misses TD will most probably get the rebound.

[Cry Havoc]

Cherokee Parks.

[irishock]

Jordan will lose because he doesn't have the tiebreaking 3pt shot. Duncan will easily score on him and tie the game after every time Jordan scores.

[Sean Cagney]

look at these asshole spurfans, trying to be diplomatic.

I still remember Dirk trying to cover Tim Duncan one on one and how easy he would score in the post... Thats all.

[dirk4mvp]

cool post