Pau for Amar'e trade in the works?

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/170229-rumor-alert-lakers-and-knicks-working-on-a-pau-gasol-for-amare-stoudemire-trade


The rumor around town is that the Lakers are actively looking to trade Pau Gasol to the Knicks for Amare Stoudemire

HoopsVibe's Very Quick Call: This isn't much of a win for either team, but edge goes to Knicks.


This isn't the first time Pau Gasol has been at the center of trade rumors in Los Angeles. The Big Llama has known his time in LA is questionable at best for over a year now. First, it was Gasol leaving LA as part of the trade that was going to bring Chris Paul to the Lakers, but that got vetoed by David Stern. Next, it was the non-stop trade rumors throughout the off-season reportedly due to his soft play in the playoffs last season. This time it is a trade between the Laker big man and the New York Knicks' power forward Amare Stoudemire.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[DMC]

That's as funny as seeing Mike D on the front page of LG.net.

[TE]

If this is legit true, they're actively trying to reunite the ole Phoenix Sun faithful from the mid decade :lol

[TheRealCB]

Jokes aside,this trade seems perfect for both teams.

[xtremesteven33]

Pau Gasol is one of the smartest big men in the league and the Lakers want to trade him? Amare has not proven anything in the league but that hes a system player who doesnt play defense. Gasol has way more fundamental skills than Amare ever dreams of having.

If this trade goes down, the Knicks win HUGE

[Richie]

Jokes aside,this trade seems perfect for both teams.

I don't see how Amare and Howard can play together. Neither has a reliable mid range game and the Lakers don't have shooters to kick it out to.

[lefty]

Is hoopsvibe legit ?

[DMC]

Pau Gasol is one of the smartest big men in the league and the Lakers want to trade him? Amare has not proven anything in the league but that hes a system player who doesnt play defense. Gasol has way more fundamental skills than Amare ever dreams of having.

If this trade goes down, the Knicks win HUGEHe's proven he doesn't know the difference between glass and plastic.

[Technique]

Hope it's true

[Mel_13]

Great trade for NY. Mitch is too smart to do something that stupid. Of course, there's always the possibility that Buss, Jr. is calling the shots. He's dumb enough to do that trade.

[gambit1990]

I don't see how Amare and Howard can play together. Neither has a reliable mid range game and the Lakers don't have shooters to kick it out to.

[jeebus]

Right now, the Lakers are looking at _allas as the example. If _allas can bring together a bunch of ex Clippers from the mid 2000s and achieve the same mediocrity like the Clippers, why not have the Lakers do the same? Nash, Bell, Amare.....ka-ching niggas.

[Seventyniner]

Great trade for NY. Mitch is too smart to do something that stupid. Of course, there's always the possibility that Buss, Jr. is calling the shots. He's dumb enough to do that trade.

We could see Amar''''''e + filler/picks for Pau. The Lakers have one draft pick in the next 3 years IIRC (2014 1st).

[baseline bum]

This can't be serious, right? Amare looks close to done and even if he was healthy, Gasol is a much more complete player. The only way this deal makes sense is if it's Jim Buss deciding to go down with the ship with D'Antoni.

[pass1st]

Curly must be getting giddy over the thought of his Suns and Lakers merging together.

[lefty]

Dwight + Amare + Kobe =






























:lmao

[Chinook]

This trade works for the Knicks and Amare, but it's terrible for the Lakers and Pau. Pau would be an awesome third big because he can play with Melo and Chandler. He'd obviously be a huge upgrade over the Golden Girls New York has backing them up right now. Amare would get to start again, and he'd be back with Nash and D'Antoni. The Lakers would get a worse player with a worse contract who may not be healthy enough to even play up to his old level. LA already has a legitimate PnR option; STAT's main draw is negated. Pau would hate coming off the bench in New York. Even playing soft, he's a top 5-7 big in the league. A healthy Amare is still not even top 10 anymore.

[SpursRock20]

The lack of respect for Gasol in Lakerland is astounding. Without him, their most recent championship seasons would have been 1st round exits.

[LkrFan]

Det 4-game losing streak is really causing Clipper Nation to reeeeaaaaccchhhh. :lol

Shit ain't happening.com

[Clipper Nation]

Det 4-game losing streak is really causing Clipper Nation to reeeeaaaaccchhhh. :lol
Seems Jimbo and Mitch are the ones who are reaching if they think The Big Uninsurable is the answer to their woes :lol

[Dex]

Trade the player that instantly made your team a title contender for a player who consistently makes his team worse every time he returns from chronic injuries?

Do it, Mitch. PLEASE!

[pass1st]

We should just keep Pau, there really isn't anybody out there we could realistically trade for who would be a step up. Only way to move Pau and not make the team worse would be getting a package deal for him.

[Mugen]

Called it when the D'Antoni signing happened. Good move for the Knicks and a lateral move for the Lakers.

Would still be a better trade than then Josh Smith BS that Lakersground is calling for

[HI-FI]

The lack of respect for Gasol in Lakerland is astounding. Without him, their most recent championship seasons would have been 1st round exits.

I've said the same for years, just like their lack of respect for Shaq is amazing is as well. Everything is about Food Stamps Bryant to them. Too bad we didn't get to see more years of his prime as the number one option:lol

[UZER]

Lakers should be going after someone like Scola....smart...rebounds...great passer...hits the 18' j...team first player. *edit: and he's gritty unlike Pau

It cracks me up that LA has Kobe Dwight Artest Pau and Nash....and its STILLnot enough. What other team has the luxury of that line up? In fact, the Thunder had to trade one of their big 3 because they couldn't afford him. But no, the poor lakers still need more help.

[Mugen]

Plus, i think a chance of scenery would do Pau a lot of good. He's expressed a desire to stay in the past but it just seems like he's tired of all the scrutiny/BS that comes w/ being a Laker.

He gets the majority of the blame while Kirby has gotten a free pass the last couple of years. Despite Kirby single handedly giving the Thunder series away and the fact that he couldn't even get out of the first round until Pau was gifted to him.

[Clipper Nation]

Called it when the D'Antoni signing happened. Good move for the Knicks and a lateral move for the Lakers.

Would still be a better trade than then Josh Smith BS that Lakersground is calling for
Tbh, Amar'e would be a downgrade for the Lakers... I actually respect Pau, even the current declining Pau is much better than that uninsurable, constantly-injured spaz Amar'e....

[Clipper Nation]

Lakers should be going after someone like Scola....smart...rebounds...great passer...hits the 18' j...team first player. *edit: and he's gritty unlike Pau

It cracks me up that LA has Kobe Dwight Artest Pau and Nash....and its STILLnot enough. What other team has the luxury of that line up? In fact, the Thunder had to trade one of their big 3 because they couldn't afford him. But no, the poor lakers still need more help.
You act like Amar'e is somehow a help, not a hindrance....

[UZER]

Didn't realize I was acting like anything tbh. My take had nothing to do with Amare.

[Riddler]

Lakers should be going after someone like Scola....smart...rebounds...great passer...hits the 18' j...team first player. *edit: and he's gritty unlike Pau

It cracks me up that LA has Kobe Dwight Artest Pau and Nash....and its STILLnot enough. What other team has the luxury of that line up? In fact, the Thunder had to trade one of their big 3 because they couldn't afford him. But no, the poor lakers still need more help.
No, Mr. Food stamps needs more food stamps. It'll never end.

[Chinook]

Lakers should be going after someone like Scola....smart...rebounds...great passer...hits the 18' j...team first player. *edit: and he's gritty unlike Pau

It cracks me up that LA has Kobe Dwight Artest Pau and Nash....and its STILLnot enough. What other team has the luxury of that line up? In fact, the Thunder had to trade one of their big 3 because they couldn't afford him. But no, the poor lakers still need more help.

The Suns can't trade Scola for a year, because they picked him up from the amnesty waivers.

[DeadlyDynasty]

That's just crazy talk

[Ace]

The Los Angeles Lakers are not actively seeking a trade of Pau Gasol, according to a report from the Los Angeles Times.


Gasol trade chatter had increased in recent days in the media, coinciding with his struggles on the floor and significant contract that runs through the 13-14 NBA season.


Gasol has played in four different offensive systems over the past three seasons and clearly prefers the Triangle.


"It put me in a natural position, which was post. I could score and I could pass," he said. "It was a perfect fit for me when I got here and Andrew (Bynum) was out. I had a lot of minutes and it was a need to cover.


"Now it's a different personnel, different need, different look, different system, different positioning. As a professional, you adjust to a different position in your company and try to do your best so the company still finds you a valuable asset and the company still performs as well as it did before."


Gasol has been slow to adapt to Mike D'Antoni's system.


"We're all trying to get adjusted to the faster pace and running harder to our spots so the spacing's better, the flow is better," Gasol said.

[Chinook]

Heck, why stop at Amare? The Lakers should get the 2005 Suns back together:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=chsxumg

They just need to find a way to get Diaw from the Spurs, and they'd be set.

[Clipper Nation]

Crofl.... remember when Mitch said the Lakers wouldn't make any moves after OKC knocked them out? Saying they won't trade Pau is like the kiss of death, tbh :lol

[JamStone]

I don't see how Amare and Howard can play together. Neither has a reliable mid range game and the Lakers don't have shooters to kick it out to.

The trade being either good or bad aside, I can't agree with that second statement. Whether Amare can return healthy or not is one thing. But hasn't he proven that if he is playing that he's one of the better midrange jumpshooting big men in the league? Especially now that his body is breaking down, that's the one thing he actually could provide, a reliable midrange game. I agree with the overall sentiment in the thread that it would not be a good trade for the Lakers. And I don't know if Amare and Dwight could play together. But it won't be because Amare doesn't have a reliable midrange game. That's one of the things he can bring to the table.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

This is a great trade for the Knicks. Amar'e has been injured for the playoffs 2 years straight and as much as it pains me to say it is completely done. Gasol could be sick for NY.

[irishock]

If the mid-decade Suns couldn't beat the Spurs, I'm not sure they can in 2013.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Lots of stupidity in this thread by the usual suspects

[DPG21920]

If LA could get Bosh instead of Amare, they would be huge winners.

[NRHector]

Right now, the Lakers are looking at _allas as the example. If _allas can bring together a bunch of ex Clippers from the mid 2000s and achieve the same mediocrity like the Clippers, why not have the Lakers do the same? Nash, Bell, Amare.....ka-ching niggas.

and the Spurs will send them home again like in the good old days

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If LA could get Bosh instead of Amare, they would be huge winners.

:lol agreed

[irishock]

Bosh is Miami's 2nd best player now, they won't make a Gasol swap.

[DPG21920]

In all seriousness though, like DoK said, Amare basically looks done. Even if he comes back, he's still a huge uninsured injury risk/contract. I can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. I would imagine that if Pau was truly on the table, it would be more for depth than "a singular star or name value".

Meaning I couldn't see him being traded for a guy like Amare, but a couple pieces that fit well and add to depth (even though Coach Dan doesn't really care too much for that) .

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Given how he meshed with Melo and TC in NY, even when healthy, I'd be concerned with the chemistry he'd have with Kobe and Dwight. He'd be a good floor spacer at PF with the occasional dunk that reminds people of what he could have been. That's about it. The thing that stands out to me when I watch him is how much traffic affects him now.

[ffadicted]

The big Llama, lol that's good

[Bynumite]

Not happening.

[Bynumite]

On one side you have a healthy 7 footer, the most versatile big man in the game. Nowadays, Amare is a dumb, injury prone black hole. So not happening.

[Latarian Milton]

im gonna expect his career to be revived after regrouping with nash tbh

[Killakobe81]

LOL I would step in and Stern that trade for "basketball reasons"

[Ice009]

Called it when the D'Antoni signing happened. Good move for the Knicks and a lateral move for the Lakers.

Would still be a better trade than then Josh Smith BS that Lakersground is calling for

I've been thinking of this trade too since D'Antoni was hired by the Lakers. If Amare is in good shape physically, then I think it's a possibility as he could be very good with Nash again.

Another one I think that would be something to look at is a is Kevin Love for Pau Gasol swap.

These are two trades that I think the Lakers should look at.


In all seriousness though, like DoK said, Amare basically looks done. Even if he comes back, he's still a huge uninsured injury risk/contract. I can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. I would imagine that if Pau was truly on the table, it would be more for depth than "a singular star or name value".

Meaning I couldn't see him being traded for a guy like Amare, but a couple pieces that fit well and add to depth (even though Coach Dan doesn't really care too much for that) .

What's actually wrong with Amare? Is he that fucked up?

[SpursIndonesia]

Another one I think that would be something to look at is a is Kevin Love for Pau Gasol swap.

These are two trades that I think the Lakers should look at.


As good as the Lakers FO is in arranging lopsided trades such in the past, i don't think Minnesota is gonna fall with that shit, atleast not yet, not this year. Even if K Love wants to play in LA badly and shows his preference openly, his position is very weak to demand a trade to his liking. Shouldn't take that last extension i guess, if money isn't everything for him.

[DAF86]

D'antoni seems to have no faith whatsoever in Pau right now. I could see the Lakers trading him, don't know if Amare is the answer though.

[SpurSwag]

Lakers should be going after someone like Scola....smart...rebounds...great passer...hits the 18' j...team first player. *edit: and he's gritty unlike Pau

It cracks me up that LA has Kobe Dwight Artest Pau and Nash....and its STILLnot enough. What other team has the luxury of that line up? In fact, the Thunder had to trade one of their big 3 because they couldn't afford him. But no, the poor lakers still need more help.

this is the reason why I hate the Lakers and their fans as much as I do. The spurs have stuck to their guns, for better or worse, and i doubt its always because Pop wants to keep everything they way they have it. I'm sure Pop would have loved to add a premier big man to this roster to help timmy, but he can't, so we work with what we get. The fuckin Lakers have 3 MVPs, 4 DPOY's, and numerous all stars combined in their starting line up, and they bitch about it.

[AaronY]

I've been thinking of this trade too since D'Antoni was hired by the Lakers. If Amare is in good shape physically, then I think it's a possibility as he could be very good with Nash again.

Another one I think that would be something to look at is a is Kevin Love for Pau Gasol swap.

These are two trades that I think the Lakers should look at.



What's actually wrong with Amare? Is he that fucked up?

His knees bro. He's lost his athleticism

[Sportcamper]

The Lakers have 3 MVPs, 4 DPOY's, and numerous all stars combined in their starting line up, and they bitch about it.

That's because we DESERVE so much more...

[ambchang]

The fuckin Lakers have 3 MVPs, 4 DPOY's, and numerous all stars combined in their starting line up, and they bitch about it.

Because fair weather fans only spend money to buy merchandise in order to attach their miserable lives to something successful.

Band wagoners don't like to pay money and still look like losers. What's the point of spending the money and not change a thing?

[Norris Cole]

I post an article saying the Lakers have interest in trading Gasol and some how this thread is still going...