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RandomGuy
11-29-2012, 03:06 PM
White Man Shoots And Kills Black Student In Florida After Argument Over Loud Music

Less than nine months after Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in central Florida, another black teenage student was killed under suspicious circumstances.

Michael David Dunn, a 45-year-old vice president of Dunn & Dunn Data Systems in Vero Beach, was in Jacksonville this past weekend for his son’s wedding. The Orlando Sentinel details what happened on Friday when Dunn, a gun collector, encountered Jordan Russell Davis, a student at nearby magnet school Samuel W. Wolfson High:

Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and several other teenagers were sitting in a sport utility vehicle in the parking lot when Dunn pulled up next to them in a car and asked them to turn down their music, [Jacksonville sheriff's Lt. Rob] Schoonover said.


Jordan and Dunn exchanged words, and Dunn pulled a gun and shot eight or nine times, striking Jordan twice, Schoonover said. Jordan was sitting in the back seat. No one else was hurt.Dunn’s attorney Monday said her client acted responsibly and in self-defense. She did not elaborate.

Schoonover also said that “there were words exchanged” between the two, and Dunn claims to have felt “threatened” before opening fire.

According to his father Ron Davis, the teenager died in the arms of his friend in the car. Ron said his son was unarmed.

Dunn was arrested at his home on Saturday and charged with murder and attempted murder. He is being held without bail.

Davis’s funeral will take place on Saturday, Dec. 1 and his parents plan to create a foundation “for at risk students that suffer from tragedies, in his memory.”

Since Dunn is claiming self-defense, Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, which earned infamy after Trayvon Martin’s killing, could be at issue in this case. After Martin’s death, Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) appointed a task force to review the law that authorizes the unfettered use of deadly force in self-defense, but the panel didn’t recommend any significant changes.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/27/1244411/jordan-russell-davis/
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-teen-shot-dead-loud-music-20121126,0,4320738.story
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oh shit. here we go again. :bang

TeyshaBlue
11-29-2012, 03:23 PM
not really. The Martin case bears no resemblance to this case whatsoever, other than it's a white dude gunning down a black dude. Take that back, Zimmerman was a brown dude.

There was at least an initial perception of self defense in the Martin case. Doesn't look like a puff of self defense in this incident.

CosmicCowboy
11-29-2012, 03:27 PM
Dunn was arrested at his home on Saturday and charged with murder and attempted murder. He is being held without bail.

:rolleyes

z0sa
11-29-2012, 03:33 PM
Not much of a parallel. This douchebag drove away from the scene of the crime and went home, which is many miles from the shooting, probably hoping nobody would be able to find him or something equally stupid. It also appears that he fired from his car into the kid's SUV ... no way he can say his life was threatened considering no weapons were in the vehicle.

cantthinkofanything
11-29-2012, 03:39 PM
Not much of a parallel. This douchebag drove away from the scene of the crime and went home, which is many miles from the shooting, probably hoping nobody would be able to find him or something equally stupid. It also appears that he fired from his car into the kid's SUV ... no way he can say his life was threatened considering no weapons were in the vehicle.

what we don't know is if the kid was pointing a bag of Skittles at the white guy.

DarrinS
11-29-2012, 03:56 PM
What's most important are the races of the shooter and victim.

Wild Cobra
11-29-2012, 04:03 PM
What's most important are the races of the shooter and victim.
You should start using a Jesse Jackson avatar.

coyotes_geek
11-29-2012, 04:29 PM
What's most important are the races of the shooter and victim.

Can't get a red team / blue team pissing match started without knowing some basic demographic information of the parties involved. How are red team and blue team supposed to know what sides to take if there's nothing to make assumptions about political leanings of the participants from?

I don't know any of the specifics about this case, but I do know that the guy who is most likely to have political views different from my own is definitely guilty of something.

boutons_deux
11-29-2012, 04:34 PM
What's most important are the races of the shooter and victim.

In the Confederacy and red-states, yes.

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-29-2012, 05:25 PM
Yeah, there won't be much controversy here at all. Meanwhile, anyone who thinks Zimmerman is getting convicted is kidding his/herself.

Jacob1983
11-29-2012, 11:23 PM
Change the victim's race to white or change the shooter's race to black, and no one gives a fuck about this story. Book it.
What does that say about humanity? I will tell you what it says. It says we are biologically racist on some level.

Spurminator
11-29-2012, 11:42 PM
What's most important are the races of the shooter and victim.

So you don't think race had anything to do with this. You think Dunn would have felt threatened and opened fire on a group white teenagers blasting country music from their pickup truck?

Of course he would have, because racism doesn't exist anymore in your world, except reverse racism which is obviously far worse than actual racism.

Spurminator
11-29-2012, 11:43 PM
Change the victim's race to white or change the shooter's race to black, and no one gives a fuck about this story. Book it.
What does that say about humanity? I will tell you what it says. It says we are biologically racist on some level.

It says you obviously don't watch the news. The scenario you just described would be all over it. And DarrinS would have posted a thread about it.

baseline bum
11-29-2012, 11:51 PM
Don't really see where this one is anything like the Trayvon case. This is an obvious murder and hopefully this dickhead gets the needle for killing an innocent kid.

Jacob1983
11-30-2012, 04:18 AM
If the shooter was white and the victim was white, this would not be a story. If the shooter was black and the victim was black, this would not be a story. People are attracted to racism and starting shit when it comes to race.

Latarian Milton
12-01-2012, 01:15 AM
if the victim was white n the gunner black, the white cops would've shot his head off right at the scene tbh. shit just another example of stupid nigga digging his own tomb with his teeth imho. they were exchanging trash talks and the white old son of a bitch got pissed off and brought out his gun. niggas didn't know he had a gun in his car nor did they know a white guy could lose his temper so easily.

Jacob1983
12-01-2012, 03:27 AM
People love white on black violence and black on white violence. That translates into people liking racism and encouraging it.