Nando De Colo assigned to the Toros

[ace3g]

Matthew R Tynan ‏@mtynan_PtR (https://twitter.com/mtynan_PtR) Whoa! Nando De Colo assigned to the Toros... According to press release.

San Antonio Spurs ‏@spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs) [Press Release] http://j.mp/VldJhk (http://t.co/VmTD4QSS) Spurs Assign Nando De Colo to @austintoros (https://twitter.com/austintoros)

[Boomersgold]

Called it. (Not really)

[Boomersgold]

I guess Mills is now the third string point guard behind Neal (again).

[ChuckD]

The timing is surprising as he is one of the few healthy wings available. Kawhi and Jack are already out, and Green's hammy went whammy last night. That leaves Manu and Anderson as right sized wings.

Maybe this is one of those quick down and up assignments to get him a game or two of playing time. SA doesn't have a game until Wednesday.

[Bruno]

It's likely only an one game assignment and Nando won't miss a single Spurs' game. Spurs next game is Wednesday and Toros have a game today.

And I like this move. Nando will have a game where he will be able to take 20 shots without consequences and it will help him to stay in game shape.

[timvp]

Interesting.

My guess is that it'll just be for today's game. There's a break in Spurs action so might as well throw De Colo out for a few minutes in Austin. Getting up 10-15 shots could really help him find his rhythm.

I can't imagine it's for more than one game since Green, Kawhi and Jackson are injured.




Edit: I got Bruno'ed.

[Raven]

weird move..

[Bruno]

BTW, Toros today game is at 4 pm ET. D-League has this year a great video stream/archive system through youtube.

[spurraider21]

not a fan of the move, and by bet is, de colo isn't a fan either. he didn't leave him team in europe to play in the d-league

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8xysK8fYlk&feature=player_embedded

[Cane]

Looks like some practice


not a fan of the move, and by bet is, de colo isn't a fan either. he didn't leave him team in europe to play in the d-league

One game he's starting against the Heat, in another he's suiting up for the d-league. Now that's classic Popovich.

[DesignatedT]

not a fan of the move, and by bet is, de colo isn't a fan either. he didn't leave him team in europe to play in the d-league

Did you not just read what Bruno posted? Wait and see what happens before you jump off the cliff. It's like a glorified practice for him and by what I've seen so far this season, he could use as many of those as he can get.

[spurraider21]

Did you not just read what Bruno posted? Wait and see what happens before you jump off the cliff. It's like a glorified practice for him and by what I've seen so far this season, he could use as many of those as he can get.
Nobody's jumping off any cliffs. Just didn't seem like something to be thrilled about on the surface, and all I said was I wasn't a fan of it. Sure, if it ends up being a game, no big deal. But since there's been no report or announcement regarding the duration of his time there, we can't be absolutely sure. It does make sense with our injury situation to keep him around, so I hope the one game theory holds true.

[Paranoid Pop]

We have too many back up PGs tbh, we only really need two out of Nando/Mills/Cojo, especially since they arent that good, I don't get why they picked up Cojo's option tbh.

The problem with Nando is that he's not a very good fit next to Manu, that's like a double TO threat and shooting wise that's not good enough...

I know full well that starting units don't matter quite as much as closing units but I wonder if we should start Manu again, the logic behind making him come off the bench is maximising the number of his touches but I think lowering his touches a bit would increase the quality of his play at this point, especially if he doesn't have to play PG.

Duncan - Splitter
Diaw - SJax
Kawhi - Anderson
Manu - Nando
TP - Neal or Mills

I think Nando + Anderson could provide plenty of playmaking. Then the choice between Neal and Mills would depend on who they have to guard. I don't like Splitter Diaw either as a combination.

Boris also plays arguabvly better at SF but our PFs suck to much to make it a regular thing unless we get someone else.

[Chase_the_Bass]

I was watching the game at work so I really only saw about half of it off and on, but it looked like during one stretch of the game Nando was playing the 3 and guarding Gay. Was I imagining that?

[Bruno]

275296988701020161

That's Nando's agent saying that Nando will only be sent down for 1 game and that he will be called up just after it.

[timvp]

Bruno with the goods. timvp late per par.

[spurraider21]

Bruno (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2449) with the goods. timvp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) late per par.
no more cliff jumping for me

[will_spurs]

Bruno (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2449) with the goods. timvp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) late per par.

Bruno with the goods. timvp with the comic relief :)

[spurraider21]

We have too many back up PGs tbh, we only really need two out of Nando/Mills/Cojo, especially since they arent that good, I don't get why they picked up Cojo's option tbh.

The problem with Nando is that he's not a very good fit next to Manu, that's like a double TO threat and shooting wise that's not good enough...

I know full well that starting units don't matter quite as much as closing units but I wonder if we should start Manu again, the logic behind making him come off the bench is maximising the number of his touches but I think lowering his touches a bit would increase the quality of his play at this point, especially if he doesn't have to play PG.

Duncan - Splitter
Diaw - SJax
Kawhi - Anderson
Manu - Nando
TP - Neal or Mills

I think Nando + Anderson could provide plenty of playmaking. Then the choice between Neal and Mills would depend on who they have to guard. I don't like Splitter Diaw either as a combination.

Boris also plays arguabvly better at SF but our PFs suck to much to make it a regular thing unless we get someone else.
the reason we are carrying all these point guards is because there's a solid shot neal will walk after the year to chase a bigger role. De Colo and Joseph are the 2 guys the organization is high on for the future, but since they're vastly unproven they are also hanging onto Mills because he's more of a known quantity. although based on his play early this year, i doubt he's coming back again, as long as de colo and CoJo progress as expected

[Bruno]

Bruno with the goods. timvp late per par.

:)

His agent is also saying in another tweet that he is send down to help his conditioning and "to get more responsibilities in the shooting area, which has been lacking from him so far".

[silverblackfan]

no more cliff jumping for me

No! I had a cliff all picked out and everything....

[wildbill2u]

Looks like some practice One game he's starting against the Heat, in another he's suiting up for the d-league. Now that's classic Popovich.

Needs some layup practice. It's hard in this league to get to the hoop so when you do, don't dawdle around with a surprise pass. Shoot it youngster.

[ChuckD]

Bruno with the goods. timvp late per par.

Bruno stole the idea from me an hour earlier. :lol

[Kidd K]

Not too surprised. De Colo has been "shitting the bed" so to speak lately. Too many negatives and not enough positives. De Colo seems like a very raw player despite being in his mid 20's. He wil benefit from extra playing time, not to mention less stress of absolutely having to make every play count while playing with the big team.

I think De Colo has potential, so I'm glad we have him, but he's been underperforming. I expect JA will get more time now with Green out, and we'll see more Mills and Neal at PG. JA doesn't blow anyone's doors off, but he doesn't seem to make too many mistakes at least the way De Colo does.

Looking forward to seeing De Colo back, and in a good mental state in the near future. If he can become more consistent with his ball handling and playmaking. . .and with his shooting, I think we might have something with him.

[ace3g]

Dentmon, Nando, CJ, Wilkerson, Cowan starting line up

[DMC]

Toros are going to send him home to rest.

[ace3g]

Nando just hit a corner 3 and had a 15 ft jumper go earlier: 5 pts

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

The pull-up jumper looked nice.

[jestersmash]

Dentmon looking more impressive than De Colo :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Called it. (Not really)


:lol

[Obstructed_View]

Did I just see Boris Diaw in the stands?

[jestersmash]

Nando looks so passive. Maybe he thinks the D-league is too "beneath" him.

And C.J. just ran probably the first successful (spacing-wise) pick and roll of the game.

[keywester]

De Colo only 2/7 shooting with only 5pts in 17 min... Not very impressive (yet). When Mills played a couple of D league games he torched the place with over 30pts.

[McGusto55]

Makes sense..

[ChumpDumper]

I wouldn't read much into one game. It's like those who judged Joseph last year after looking at a couple of box scores. Players like those are sent down to the Toros specifically to change their games and focus on parts of their game that are not strong. Mills scored a ton of points in the D-League because scoring is one of his strong suits. Instructing De Colo to look for his own juimper is unnatural for him so there can be issues.

[jestersmash]

I'm willing to overlook De Colo's poor shooting (although he nearly airballed a wide open 3 point attempt). It's just strange to see him so ineffective against terrible players. He's clearly not a 1 on 1 kind of point guard who can create opportunities for others (and for himself) off the dribble. He relies on people setting good picks for him and his team having good spacing overall.

Cory Joseph on the other hand looks pretty solid.

[ChumpDumper]

Did I just see Boris Diaw in the stands?Yes. Good eye.

[jestersmash]

C.J. looks really confident out there. Great to see.

[timvp]

Not watching this game live. Who is running point? Out of CJ, NDC and Ballhog Dentmon, there are a lot of options out there. Looks like the Toros are also giving Head some action.

[ChumpDumper]

Mostly Joseph. Nando actually got a three.

[ChumpDumper]

Made a long transition two -- foot on the line. Looked comically forced.

[mrjap2x]

Is it just me or de colo isn't listed at the box score.

[ChumpDumper]

Is it just me or de colo isn't listed at the box score.He is listed here: http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20121202/IDAAUS/gameinfo.html

May not be listed on the app's box score.

[ChumpDumper]

lol Nando finishes the game at PF.

[ChumpDumper]

Joseph was a couple of assists away from a triple double. Looked good finishing at the rim. Competition is pretty bad though; won't have a challenge for another couple of games, then he plays against Troy Hudson/Andrew Goudelock and Garrett Temple.

[keywester]

Tough choice between DeColo & CJ. Slight edge to CJ

[Boomersgold]

De Colo only 2/7 shooting with only 5pts in 17 min... Not very impressive (yet). When Mills played a couple of D league games he torched the place with over 30pts.

If I remember correctly, Patty Mills had 38 points and 12 assists in his last dleague game.

[Ice009]

If I remember correctly, Patty Mills had 38 points in his last dleague game.

Scoring is his strength, so that is no surprise that he lit it up in the D-League when he was last there.

Patrick's weakness is ball handing and passing. If he was only better in those areas he could be getting a lot more court time.

btw why do all his fans call him Patty? He said that he prefers the name Patrick, yet all his hardcore fans always call him Patty.

[Boomersgold]

Scoring is his strength, so that is no surprise that he lit it up in the D-League when he was last there.

Patrick's weakness is ball handing and passing. If he was only better in those areas he could be getting a lot more court time.

btw why do all his fans call him Patty? He said that he prefers the name Patrick, yet all his hardcore fans always call him Patty.

I'm not sure why fans call him Patty. His nickname started in college when he played for St Mary's, and ever since then, the nickname stuck. Almost everyone nowadays calls him Patty. I think Mills is the only player in the NBA to have his nickname (Patty) as his name on his NBA.com profile, as well as the Spurs NBA TV Companion.

[maverick1948]

I'm not sure why fans call him Patty. His nickname started in college when he played for St Mary's, and ever since then, the nickname stuck. Almost everyone nowadays calls him Patty. I think Mills is the only player in the NBA to have his nickname (Patty) as his name on his NBA.com profile, as well as the Spurs NBA TV Companion.

First of all, my wife calls him Patty Melt. Thought that was what she heard from Bill on TV broadcast.

As for Nando and Cory at the Toros, I watch the game on here and think that this was an attempt to see if De Colo could if called on handle a SF without size. At 6-5, he is a huge PG, tall SG and short SF. The Toros played a lot of 3 guard rotations. Both De Colo and Joseph saw alot of court time with Dentmon and Kelly. I think Pop just wanted game time for both and get a look at whether De Colo could play limited time at SF. This makes me wonder if Green may have more than tightness in his legs.

[spurs108]

I'm not sure why fans call him Patty. His nickname started in college when he played for St Mary's, and ever since then, the nickname stuck. Almost everyone nowadays calls him Patty. I think Mills is the only player in the NBA to have his nickname (Patty) as his name on his NBA.com profile, as well as the Spurs NBA TV Companion.

Emanuel Ginobili and Maurice (Mo) Williams come to mind, and i feel like there are a decent number of others.

[Boomersgold]

Emanuel Ginobili and Maurice (Mo) Williams come to mind, and i feel like there are a decent number of others.

Completely forgot about Manu! Why do they call him Manu anyway?

[Ice009]

Completely forgot about Manu! Why do they call him Manu anyway?

It's the middle part of his name Emanuel. Not sure who came up with it. He was called that well before he came to the NBA. The Spurs players were calling him Gino when he first came here ;).

[DapDaGenius]

Dang...I know he isn't happy about that. I wish I could find the article again, but I remember him stating that he wouldn't want to go to the D-league because he came here only to play in the NBA and not the D-league.

Hopefully he looks at this as a chance to improve and doesn't pull a Steve Blake and start fighting team mates.

[sinok]

It's the middle part of his name Emanuel. Not sure who came up with it. He was called that well before he came to the NBA. The Spurs players were calling him Gino when he first came here ;).

Manu is the standard diminutive for any Em(m)anuel(le) in latin languages (French, Italian, Spanish...).

[ChumpDumper]

Dang...I know he isn't happy about that. I wish I could find the article again, but I remember him stating that he wouldn't want to go to the D-league because he came here only to play in the NBA and not the D-league.No one forced him to go to Austin for a game.

[jiggy_55]

Emanuel Ginobili and Maurice (Mo) Williams come to mind, and i feel like there are a decent number of others.

Umm isn't Danny Green originally Daniel? I'm 99% sure he is.

[DapDaGenius]

No one forced him to go to Austin for a game.
...............right

[ChumpDumper]

...............rightYes, right.

NBA players have to agree to be assigned.

[Splits]

Yes, right.

NBA players have to agree to be assigned.

Not rookies.

[ChumpDumper]

Not rookies.Yes, rookies.

[Splits]

Yes, rookies.

• Players with three years of service or less can be assigned to the D-League. (It was two years' experience in the previous CBA.)
• A player can be assigned to the D-League an unlimited number of times after a limit of three in the previous CBA.
• Players continue to receive their NBA salary while assigned to the D-League. This was also the case under the previous CBA, but ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher reported recently that the league was pushing for players to be paid at D-League salary rates while under assignment.
• Players with more than three years' experience can be assigned to the D-League -- for example, for injury rehabilitation -- but only when the player and the union request the assignment. Under the previous CBA, players with more than two years' experience could not be assigned to the D-League no matter what.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7329408/new-items-added-nba-collective-bargaining-agreement

[ChumpDumper]

The wording of the actual CBA shows you are correct, though I have read of teams' giving players the choice. That was before the current agreement though.

If Nando is going to be a bitch about it, might as well trade him.

[DapDaGenius]

Yes, right.

NBA players have to agree to be assigned.

EDIT: Yeah, the other guy(/you) helped me out, so forget it.

[ChumpDumper]

Slow your roll. You proved nothing with your outdated article. I proved your argument for you by reading the CBA.

Again. If he's a bitch about it, get rid of him. He's not that good.

[Boomersgold]

Umm isn't Danny Green originally Daniel? I'm 99% sure he is.

Quite true. A lot of the Spurs players are more known by their nicknames than their actual names.

[Boomersgold]

Is De Colo still with the Toros? According to Bruno's source, he was only going to be assigned for 1 day.

[DapDaGenius]

Slow your roll. You proved nothing with your outdated article. I proved your argument for you by reading the CBA.

Again. If he's a bitch about it, get rid of him. He's not that good.

It doesn't matter if it is outdated....that's just saying that wasn't too pleased with going.

Also yeah, that's why I was saying I hope he wasn't going to bitch about it.

"He's not that good".....meh

[ChumpDumper]

It doesn't matter if it is outdated....that's just saying that wasn't too pleased with going.How could an article written before Nando was in the NBA prove that Nando was upset about being assigned?


Also yeah, that's why I was saying I hope he wasn't going to bitch about it.

"He's not that good".....mehHe's not.

And anyway, I remember his saying he wasn't here to play in the D-League (could be wrong). Not quite the same as saying he was going to be a bitch about being assigned.

[DapDaGenius]

How could an article written before Nando was in the NBA prove that Nando was upset about being assigned?

It would show that ORIGINALLY he wasn't too happy with going(if he was upset about it). I'm NOT talking about how he feels about it now(Because I'm not sure if there is an interview out on that yet), I'm talking about how it seemed like he felt about it back when he was being interviewed about it.

"He's not." When i said "meh" I saying I don't give a shit.

"I remember his saying he wasn't here to play in the D-League (could be wrong). Not quite the same as saying he was going to be a bitch about being assigned."

I didn't say he wasn't going to bitch originally, until you describe it as that, if you look at what I originally said, I was just hoping that he wouldn't be upset and see this as a lane for improvement.

Although I did say "I know he isn't happy about that." But that's just how I talk at times, of course it's not a fact. Then I made a joke about him turning into Steve Blake and fighting his own teammates, but again it was a joke.

[will_spurs]

btw why do all his fans call him Patty? He said that he prefers the name Patrick, yet all his hardcore fans always call him Patty.

Where and when did he say that? His Twitter account is Patty_Mills, so if he really dislikes this nickname the first thing to do would be not to use it himself...


I'm not sure why fans call him Patty. His nickname started in college when he played for St Mary's, and ever since then, the nickname stuck. Almost everyone nowadays calls him Patty. I think Mills is the only player in the NBA to have his nickname (Patty) as his name on his NBA.com profile, as well as the Spurs NBA TV Companion.

Actually most players are called by their nickname:
Timothy Duncan -> Tim
William Anthony Parker -> Tony
Emmanuel Ginobili-> Manu
Matthew Bonner -> Matt

etc.

[Boomersgold]

Apparently De Colo's back in San Antonio. Can anyone confirm this?

[Boomersgold]

Where and when did he say that? His Twitter account is Patty_Mills, so if he really dislikes this nickname the first thing to do would be not to use it himself...


He did say it though. It was in an interview, and he also said that at home, he's called "Pat".

[PÒÓCH]

Perhaps Pop liked what he saw in Anderson which prompted him to make this move. Makes sense since Anderson is familiar with the system and can fit right in without making too many mistakes.

[Josepatches_]

He's back
http://t.co/znLukfEW

[Seventyniner]

Dang...I know he isn't happy about that. I wish I could find the article again, but I remember him stating that he wouldn't want to go to the D-league because he came here only to play in the NBA and not the D-league.

Hopefully he looks at this as a chance to improve and doesn't pull a Steve Blake and start fighting team mates.

I thought it was Ryan Richards who was outspoken about not wanting to ever play in the D-League.

[DapDaGenius]

I thought it was Ryan Richards who was outspoken about not wanting to ever play in the D-League.

Both apparently. But Ryan.....is on a whole different level.

[HI-FI]

maybe Boris took Nando up to Austin so he'd have someone to eat with at La Madeleine.

[Bruno]

Green and Neal didn't practice today because of injuries. If they are unavailable for the Buck game Wednesday, calling back Joseph would be a good idea.

[MR-Clutch]

Richards was very willing to play in the d league

[maverick1948]

I doubt De Colo bitched about going to Austin for one game. Pop likely sat down and explained to him that Danny Green might miss(which he is) a game or two. With Kawhi and SJax out, we need to know how you would fair at SF for limited minutes. So the trip was to get minutes as well as see what he could do at SF. De Colo said he would rather stay in Europe than come to SA and play in Dleague. Ryan said he would rather be in Dleague than in Europe. De Colo understands what is expected of him. Time on the court at Austin, translates to time on the court at SA.

[pjjrfan]

He might have earned himself a spot off the bench with his play tonight, although I thought he played well in the Heat game, he was put in a stressful situation there at the end and made a couple of bad decisions that cost them the game, but tonight he seemed to be more in control of the moment and did some truly marvelous things Bucks.

[Boomersgold]

He might have earned himself a spot off the bench with his play tonight, although I thought he played well in the Heat game, he was put in a stressful situation there at the end and made a couple of bad decisions that cost them the game, but tonight he seemed to be more in control of the moment and did some truly marvelous things Bucks.

[bklynspursfan]

Looks like it happened again:


Pounding the Rock ‏@poundingtherock (https://twitter.com/poundingtherock)
Spurs have assigned Nando de Colo to the Toros. Story soon




http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/130104_spurs_reassign_nando_de_colo_to_austin

[ace3g]

^ Yep

San Antonio Spurs ‏@spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs) Nando De Colo re-assigned to @austintoros (https://twitter.com/austintoros) http://j.mp/Uo3c8U (http://t.co/5rgFQtOk)

[Boomersgold]

When's the next Toros game?

[capek]

De Colo looks like he's hit a bit of a rookie wall the last few games. Hopefully this'll allow him to play through it, as he was starting to look promising prior to Neal's injury.

[Bruno]

It sounds again like an one game stint for today's game.

Edit: it's confirmed by a journalist close to De Colo.
287248210655850496

[polandprzem]

Umm keep him hot

[boutons_deux]

flipping NDC back and forth with Toros so he can play more is strong indication Pop thinks NDC is worth developing.

[TMTTRIO]

Well with Manu probably gone next season there will be room for him to play a big part.

[Boomersgold]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LDo_qLAdNVU

Is anyone watching the game? Joseph seems to be outshining De Colo right now.

[Hoops Czar]

He needs to stay there.

[ChumpDumper]

Is anyone watching the game? Joseph seems to be outshining De Colo right now.Yeah, Cojo is definitely fresher. Banked in a long three at the end of the half.

Houston just loaded up RGV with athletic big men.

[Boomersgold]

Joseph= D League MVP

[Boomersgold]

field goalsrebounds



pos
min
fgm-a
3pm-a
ftm-a
+/-
off
def
tot
ast
pf
st
to
bs
ba
pts


















http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/images/livestats/arrow.gif T. Wilkerson (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/tyler_wilkerson/)
F
30:45
3-10
0-0
1-2
-1
2
4
6
3
4
0
4
3
1
7


R. Jackson (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/rick_jackson/)
F
26:19
7-12
0-0
2-3
-8
3
8
11
1
3
1
1
1
2
16


http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/images/livestats/arrow.gif C. Joseph (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/cory_joseph/)
G
36:51
6-15
3-5
4-4
-12
3
3
6
3
3
3
3
0
1
19


http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/images/livestats/arrow.gif N. De Colo (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/nando_de_colo/)
G
30:39
7-17
0-5
1-1
-8
2
3
5
7
3
2
4
0
0
15

[ace3g]

Spurs recall Nando:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/130105_decolo

and no SJAX tonight...