Duncan best player in NBA this season

[Galileo]

Duncan best player in NBA this season

Tim Duncan

322 points
171 rebounds
45 assists
41 blocks
15 steals
+89 plus minus stat

sub total = +683 (Galileo plus rating)

111 missed FG
18 missed FT
26 turnovers
33 fouls

sub total = 188 (Galileo minus rating)

NET; 683 - 188 = 495 (net Galileo rating)

532 minutes played

net Galileo rating per 48 minutes = 44.7

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Lebron James

371 points
133 rebounds
97 assists
13 blocks
16 steals
+70 plus minus stat

sub total = +700 (Galileo plus rating)

128 missed FG
30 missed FT
37 turnovers
29 fouls

sub total = 224 (Galileo minus rating)

NET; 700 - 224 = 476 (net Galileo rating)

559 minutes played

net Galileo rating per 48 minutes = 40.9

44.7 > 40.9

Duncan > Lebron

:ihit

[YoMamaIsCallin]

A) what the hell is a Galileo rating? Never heard of it and Google cant find it.
B) while Duncan is playing great ball, no sane observer would claim he's better than LeBron, who is number one on everyone's list of best on the planet.

[AaronY]

A) what the hell is a Galileo rating? Never heard of it and Google cant find it.

lol

[SpursRock20]

Looks like he created his own formula. Cool

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Oh. LOL. His user name is Galileo. :)

Uhhhhh... NOW I get it.

[admiralfats]

lebron has played 3 fewer games

[Arc]

looks legit

[ffadicted]

A) what the hell is a Galileo rating? Never heard of it and Google cant find it..

I lol'ed

[gee]

This does not make sense to me.
You cant say the detriment of a turnover is equal to the benefit of a rebound.
You cant say an assist is equivalent to a single point scored, or a point scored by the team while the player happens to be out on the floor.
Etc
but you do

[dylankerouac]

lebron has played 3 fewer games

It's a /48 min stat.

[JRHernandez88]

Lol

[jestersmash]

This does not make sense to me.
You cant say the detriment of a turnover is equal to the benefit of a rebound.
You cant say an assist is equivalent to a single point scored, or a point scored by the team while the player happens to be out on the floor.
Etc
but you do

No kidding. This is the kind of rating that one would expect to be conceived in the mind of a 10 year old with limited basketball knowledge.

"Hey I have a great idea! Why don't we just add up all the good things and subtract all the bad things!!!"

(Although I'm pretty sure this is a joke thread and the stat isn't meant to be taken seriously)

[Galileo]

This is the most accurate formula ever devised by man.

[gee]

(Although I'm pretty sure this is a joke thread and the stat isn't meant to be taken seriously)

You'd think so, but I swear I've seen this guy using this stat seriously before

[sananspursfan21]

The best part is the fruits of his labor show, unlike a certain player who's name rhymes with Obi

[Galileo]

This does not make sense to me.
You cant say the detriment of a turnover is equal to the benefit of a rebound.
You cant say an assist is equivalent to a single point scored, or a point scored by the team while the player happens to be out on the floor.
Etc
but you do

You can say these things, because I want to avoid the charge of being subjective.

For example, the straight up statistical value of a turnover may be larger than a rebound, but maybe those who make turnovers are the people pushing the ball, so maybe the penalty for TO should be less than it appears.

An assist is shared with another who scored, so maybe an assist should be worth a point in the system rather than 2.

Also, if you make an assist, your team just scored 2 points, so you really get +3 for an assist.

[admiralfats]

It's a /48 min stat.

well, yeah, i didn't see the part where he had written minutes played i just saw the aggregate stats. i was just quickly trying to point out how silly a claim it is to make, not to mention how random the formula is. now i'll just point out that it makes a player more valuable to play more minutes, which lebron will end up doing, and so the per minute stat doesn't tell who is better, it tells you how good he is when he's on the floor. like with wages of wins, you have wins produced / 48 but then you have the total wins produced, which is what ultimately matters.

anyway i'm a little embarrassed i've said this much in reference to this topic so i'll end here

[Libri]

A) what the hell is a Galileo rating? Never heard of it and Google cant find it.

I think that rating was developed shortly after Galileo discoverd Jupiter's four largest moons in 1610.

[gee]

For example, the straight up statistical value of a turnover may be larger than a rebound, but maybe those who make turnovers are the people pushing the ball, so maybe the penalty for TO should be less than it appears

Actually don't understand what you're trying to say here.


An assist is shared with another who scored, so maybe an assist should be worth a point in the system rather than 2.

The ability to create an assist should definetly be weighted higher than 1 point scored. I thought this stat was to determine individual player performance, but you're more interested in trying to evenly distribute team production evenly amongst all players on the team.


Also, if you make an assist, your team just scored 2 points, so you really get +3 for an assist.
And all it will take is a 3 pt shot by the other team made over Gary Neal who was stupidly out of position to completely erase Tim Duncan's assist.

There are so so many holes in this, just the fact that each of your arguments are based on "maybe"s is enough to debunk the whole system. There is no maybe in determining stats.

[TDfan2007]

A) what the hell is a Galileo rating? Never heard of it and Google cant find it.


:lmao This just made my day.

[timvp]

He's not the best this season ... but he's closer than anyone could have imagined.

[racm]

The best part is the fruits of his labor show, unlike a certain player who's name rhymes with Obi

Timmy D plays defense to make sure his team wins games, tbh

[Raven]

Timmy is right now the number 3 player in the league overall and number 1 defensive.

[Galileo]

The ability to create an assist should definetly be weighted higher than 1 point scored. I thought this stat was to determine individual player performance, but you're more interested in trying to evenly distribute team production evenly amongst all players on the team.



a lot of assists are just throwing the ball to a dude with an open three. If he makes it, it is an assist. But if he misses, the exact same play by the passer is not an assist.

[Drz]

In related news, the Drz Metric shows Matt Bonner is leading the NBA in net star points.

Net Star Points = (3P%) * (1 - Rebound %)^(# of red hairs on head)

[Malik Hairston]

I'd have Duncan as the 3rd best player in the NBA this season, tbh..it probably won't last the duration of the season, but only Lebron and Durant have been a level ahead..

[phxspurfan]

I thought he was going to say in history. Misleading title

[crc21209]

I think he's easily a Top 5 League MVP candidate. The only guys who could argue are guys like Carmelo and LeBron...

[Macca76]

In related news, the Drz Metric shows Matt Bonner is leading the NBA in net star points.

Net Star Points = (3P%) * (1 - Rebound %)^(# of red hairs on head)
:lol

[jestersmash]

In related news, the Drz Metric shows Matt Bonner is leading the NBA in net star points.

Net Star Points = (3P%) * (1 - Rebound %)^(# of red hairs on head)

:lmao

[AaronY]

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-04-01/tn_1238561028087.jpg

[therealtruth]

If TD can start drawing double teams again in the post then you can go ahead and pencil in #5 especially with all the good outside shooters we have. If Tiago can start doing that even better.

[TampaDude]

If TD can start drawing double teams again in the post then you can go ahead and pencil in #5 especially with all the good outside shooters we have. If Tiago can start doing that even better.

^ this :hat

[Galileo]

Galileo has been vindicated!

[Galileo]

statistically, Duncan remains the best player per minute in the NBA this season, approached only by Lebron and Durant.

[007nites]

If Timmy played a consistent 34-35 minutes a game he would be in the top 3 for MVP candidates. I'm pretty sure he can play those minutes as well.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Witnessing something special with Sir Duncan this season..

[Killakobe81]

He has been amazing, but you cant say anyone is better than Lebron right now. More minutes may reduce his (duncan's) effectiveness and the fact Lebron plays so many more minutes and has to do so much for his team (even as good as they are) no way can you say someone is better than him. But duncan has been the best big ...no doubt about it.

[Horse]

He said Timmys the best, sounds good to me!