Quick Grades: Spurs vs. Bucks - Dec. 4

[timvp]

Tim Duncan A-
Carried the load in the first half. Controlled the defensive boards. Defended the rim.

Manu Ginobili C
Poor shot selection and iffy decisions. Uneven D. However, numerous well-timed passes.

Tony Parker B
Very strong numbers outside of turnovers but never seemed to find a rhythm.

Gary Neal B
Slow start. Kept his chin up and trigger ready. Finished well.

Boris Diaw C
Bought minutes at small forward. A few good passes. Everything else was a struggle.

DeJuan Blair C-
Overwhelmed by the Bucks athletic front line. Missed a few more easy shots.

Tiago Splitter A-
Solid screens. Great rolling. Acrobatic finishes. Decent to good on defense.

Matt Bonner B+
Didn't shoot it straight but competed on defense and rebounded extremely well.

Nando De Colo A-
Very impressive stint in the second half. Ran the show beautifully. D also a positive.

James Anderson B+
A few more surprisingly great passes. Stout defense. Contagious energy.

Cory Joseph A-
His defense was excellent. Came up with numerous loose balls. Crisp passes.

Pop A-
Kept shuffling the deck until he found a fivesome with life. Well done.

[KaiRMD1]

I agree with Bonner's grade, he rebounded the ball great. Let's see what happens next game. Also, Nando looks to be getting the handle of things

[Boomersgold]

Disagree with Cory Joseph's grade. He really didn't contribute much to tonight's win.

[Libri]

thanks

[bigfan]

Whats with the Bonner rebounding lately??

[timvp]

Also, Nando looks to be getting the handle of thingsYeah, this was definitely Nando's most "mature" outing. Very under control and never hurried. Impressive stuff from the rook.


Disagree with Cory Joseph's grade. He really didn't contribute much to tonight's win.Easily the best defense we've seen from a backup point guard this year. Notable, at least, IMO.

[timtonymanu]

Who knew the Spurs would go on a run with a lineup of De Colo, Neal, Anderson, Bonner, and Splitter?

Great coaching by Pop and props to the bench for fighting hard.

[timvp]

Whats with the Bonner rebounding lately??

He was due for a few big rebounding games after starting off the season so pitifully ... but he's been pretty darn impressive on the boards lately.

[playblair]

Yeah, this was definitely Nando's most "mature" outing. Very under control and never hurried. Impressive stuff from the rook.

Easily the best defense we've seen from a backup point guard this year. Notable, at least, IMO.

best defense from a spurs pg this season ..... not just back up ...

[timvp]

best defense from a spurs pg this season ..... not just back up ...

Overboard. Parker has had a strong defensive start to the season.

[Trainwreck2100]

manu with the best +/- of the game

[benstanfield]

http://i.imgur.com/Z56x3.gif


Are there any Bill Cosby's on ST?

I mean real, true Bills Cosby's. I am.

I had my awakening when I was 17. After a night of gorging myself on box after box of pudding pops, I was visited by a Bill Cosby. He called himself Bill Cosby. He came in through my bedroom window and spoke to me about his ability and his Jell-O.

He placed his hands upon my chest and I soon felt very cold. I dropped to my knees and looked up at him. He grabbed me by my neck and covered me with chocolate pudding. Oh, the feeling of such power coursing through my veins was almost orgasmic, I passed out from the pleasure.

When I awoke, there was a small scroll on the floor in front of my body. I sat up slowly, my whole body was dead cold. When I reached out for it and read it, I understood it completely. This was strange because it was written in Latin. It told me that I could get $1 of my next Jell-O brand purchase.

What are my powers you ask? I have the ability to draw the pudding from your body. A pudding Bill Cosby. This kind of Bill Cosby is special because I can still go out in the sun and have a normal functioning life. I feed off pudding instead of blood.

So here I am now, I've had my powers for over 3 years. They're great. I'm in very high respect of the elders and I've become a sire to a few of my own underlings.

Pic related.

[benstanfield]

Matt Bonner is and always will be fool's gold.

[Manudona]

Pop A-
Kept shuffling the deck until he found a fivesome with life. Well done.

If I were Pop then in the 4th quarter, when it was the bench dominating the game I would have done one of these things:

Either aproach the scoring table and ask if someone could please call Stern and tell him that Pop was asking if it was OK to keep playing the bench till the end of the game or it was mandatory to put the big 3 or

Not play any of the big 3 until the last second, then take a timeout so they play just that last second and then when some reporter asks him in the post game press conference I would say I was afraid of getting a fined if the big three did not play in the 4th

[HI-FI]

thanks for grades.

it's amazing how despite the injuries and our sluggishness at times, we've still been able to out execute other teams in crunch time. Our bench is something else, Pop and the organization deserve so much credit. To see guys like Nando and CoJo step it up when you figured they had the best excuse to be out of rhythm is a good feeling. Going to be real interesting when other guys are healthy, especially Kawhi, who I'm hoping comes back soon fully recovered.

[ElNono]

CoP member throwing Manu under the bus (again)... no surprises there...

cue :cry CoM members tell me I'm a CoP member and CoP members tell me I'm a CoM member :cry meme

[ElNono]

Overboard. Parker has had a strong defensive start to the season.

Is there any truth to other team's commentators always saying Spurs like to hide Parker on defense? I've heard that at least 3 or 4 times this season.

[Brunodf]

Pop is too high, his first rotations were bad. i would give a B+

[jestersmash]

Cory Joseph and Nando De Colo did fantastic jobs. For both players, their total contribution to the game wasn't really encapsulated by the final stat sheet.

I thought Nando De Colo controlled the flow and pace of the offense really well. He had a few hockey assists and hockey-hockey-assists (Behind the back pass to a rolling Splitter who hits a cutting Anderson who hits Bonner in the corner for a Vinny) that didn't show up in the stat sheet.

Cory Joseph really held is own and kept composure running the point, and when he wasn't running the point, he had pretty good, tenacious defense.


Pop is too high, his first rotations were bad. i would give a B+

Which rotations specifically were bad, in your opinion, and what should his rotations have been instead?

[playblair]

boris diaw is a sf .....

[jestersmash]

manu with the best +/- of the game

James Anderson had the best +/- of the game. "Manu" had the second best (+17).

[freetiago]

as a completely objective fan
spurs need to pass the ball to tiago "mr fourth quarter" splitter more
nando is the only spur who passed to him and its no suprised we went on a 16-2 when he did
splitter either got easy layups or made good passes while rolling
then parker came in and played hero mode and the lead went away

[Stabula]

Holy shit Blair continues to prove time and time again just how worthless he is. I hope no potential trade partners saw him tonight (or this whole season for that matter) because his trade value continues to plummet.

[Russo21]

Whats with the Bonner rebounding lately??

Pop's been lacing Bonner's sandwhiches with steroids.

[timvp]

:cry CoP member throwing Manu under the bus (again)... no surprises there... :cryWhat grade did you want him to get? A plus/minus twice as bad as anyone else. The Spurs outscored the Bucks by 22 points in the 23 minutes he wasn't on the court. Difficult to ignore, tbh. On top of that even CoM would have to admit his decisions weren't the greatest. De Colo came in and did a better impression of Manu than Manu did of himself. That has never and should never happen, tbh.


Is there any truth to other team's commentators always saying Spurs like to hide Parker on defense?Parker has been defending the opposing point guard in virtually every game this season. I don't remember a time he hasn't. Pop hasn't pulled out his "put Green on the opposing PG" trick thus far this season.


boris diaw is a sf .....Eh, I can't agree. When the corpse of Marquis Daniels is beating him off the dribble ... yeah, no.

[Stabula]

Bonner seems to be a humble and smart guy I can never fully hate him. Yeah he's fool's gold and will disappear in the playoffs like he always does but I've always found it a shame that this is the case. I hope he's magically able to turn it around someday (unlikely) because when he puts in the effort he adds to the team no matter how marginal that value is.

[007nites]

I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed Joseph's defense.

[Manufan909]

Thanks for the grades, timvp! :worthy: Do you think Pop might experiment with Tiago in the SL once everyone's healthy, as long as Splitter continues to beast half the time, and Blair continues to suck all the time? It's probably fools gold, but I remain cautiously optimistic.


Who knew the Spurs would go on a run with a lineup of De Colo, Neal, Anderson, Bonner, and Splitter?

Great coaching by Pop and props to the bench for fighting hard.
I was about to ask who the Dream 5 were. I sadly missed the entire third quarter, so I didn't get to enjoy the bench mob once again cleaning up the starters mess. I regret not seeing Anderson and De Colo most of all. Reading the quick grades had me confused cus Colo only ended up with 2 assists, but apparently he had a few hockey assists. On a completely unrelated note, Blair sucking it up now that he's a starter is getting on my nerves big time. Give Tiago a chance, Pop!!!


as a completely objective fan
spurs need to pass the ball to tiago "mr fourth quarter" splitter more
nando is the only spur who passed to him and its no suprised we went on a 16-2 when he did
splitter either got easy layups or made good passes while rolling
then parker came in and played hero mode and the lead went away

fixed

You're not wrong though, Splitter was wide open 2 or 3 times in the 4th and the ball handler just straight up ignored him. One time in particular JA received the pass when he was behind the backboard and had 2 guys keying in on him, and Splitter was all alone 5 ft in front of the rim. CoJo, Neal and TP MUST become significantly better at finding Tiago by the end of the season, cuz he is one sly motherfucker who is always either open, about to be open, or hustling to set a screen. Manu 1 and 2 already watch out for the Golden God very well. He was definitely mixing it up on his scores this game, he had a reverse layup, a floater, a finger roll, possibly a dunk cuz I missed the third quarter, everything but his patented hook.:hat

[TDMVPDPOY]

matt bonners rebound, just doing the dirty work that undersized big on the team is not doing...

[ElNono]

What grade did you want him to get? A plus/minus twice as bad as anyone else. The Spurs outscored the Bucks by 22 points in the 23 minutes he wasn't on the court. Difficult to ignore, tbh. On top of that even CoM would have to admit his decisions weren't the greatest. De Colo came in and did a better impression of Manu than Manu did of himself. That has never and should never happen, tbh.

B- would've been more fitting, IMO... he had as many assists/min as Tony, tbh... Also the Spurs outscored the Bucks by a whole bunch when Tony wasn't on the floor too, I don't see you nitpicking on that when it comes to Tony either, tbh... heck, Tony was pretty much invisible in the last quarter.

I know you're trying to be objective with these grades and all, but the bias are *clearly* showing...


Parker has been defending the opposing point guard in virtually every game this season. I don't remember a time he hasn't. Pop hasn't pulled out his "put Green on the opposing PG" trick thus far this season.

So your official stance is that it doesn't happen... :lol

[Manufan909]

Does anyone remember how Nando scored his two buckets that weren't 3s? I remember timvp saying something about Nando actually scoring while being guarded, but I missed it. Stupid ads...

[timvp]

Do you think Pop might experiment with Tiago in the SL once everyone's healthy, as long as Splitter continues to beast half the time, and Blair continues to suck all the time?No, I don't think Splitter is in line to start (other than games against the Lakers and any other team that comes up with a pair of large bigmen). Splitter is needed to anchor the bench unit -- on both sides of the court. Hypothetically the Spurs could start both and still have Splitter play with the bench ... but then if Splitter gets in early foul trouble, the bench becomes a bunch of midgets.

For Splitter to move into the starting lineup, the Spurs would have to acquire a backup center.

That said, I'm hoping Pop bumps Splitter's minutes up to ~25 MPG. That's doable and it should be a priority to play your fourth or fifth best player a healthy amount of time.

[ElNono]

BTW, timvp...

timvp has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

sup with this? Get your estonian operators to fix this immediately, tbh.

[playblair]

what do the spurs do with anderson.... he has been playing similar to pre injury ja ...

[siraulo23]

thanks for the grades, i missed the game

is bonner back to being 3rd/4th big again? wtf

[timvp]

B- would've been more fitting, IMO...So :crybig biased meanie:cry gave a C instead of a B-. OK. Do you agree with TP getting a B?

You must have pretty low expectations of Manu if you think this was an average game for him. He wasn't bad but he's Manu Ginobili; his standards should be higher than having the worst plus/minus on the team and hitting 30% of his shots.

Ginobili is damn good at basketball, if you haven't noticed.


I don't see you nitpicking on that when it comes to Tony either, tbhIf Manu had 22 points (on 11 shots) and ten assists and I only gave him a B, you'd drive over to my house and murder me, tbh.


.. heck, Tony was pretty much invisible in the last quarter.
?

Four points and three assists on three shots in seven minutes. That's ~28 points and ~21 assists per 48 minutes. Not exactly what I'd call invisible, but to each his own.


I know you're trying to be objective with these grades and all, but the bias are *clearly* showing...
I didn't see it til after I posted my grades but:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206388

Everyone :crybiased:cry


So your official stance is that it doesn't happen... :lolI don't remember it happening so far during the regular season. IIRC, Kawhi defended CP3 for a few possessions in the first Clippers game ... but since then I don't remember any hiding of TP. Do you?

[freetiago]

take bonner over blair right now
blair is undersized, doesnt rebound, still makes stupid mistakes and cant shoot
but if i had a choice i would take neither
bucks have a lot of frontcourt players
spurs should try to get a trade with them
dalembert is racking up dnps with the bucks
he would be a great 3rd big for us
henson, udoh, sanders all need big minutes and mbah a moute can play the 4 as well

[timvp]

BTW, timvp...

timvp has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

sup with this? Get your estonian operators to fix this immediately, tbh.

:lol Fixed. Someone must have posted porn or something for my PM box to fill up. Guess I better check, tbh.

[Manufan909]

ElNono I think your patriotism is blinding you. Manu is held to a high standard (won't debate about whether Tony's standard is higher or lower), and he just had a meh game. Even with Tony's TOs and Westbrick imitation in the final minutes, I still believe he was worthy of a B- at least. His incredible shooting percentages more than made up for his flaws, and he was solid on D. I might have Manu in my username, but I still agree with how timvp grades him almost every time.

I did just realize that I really have no clue how Manu is being graded at the moment. Is he still being given the benefit of the doubt to a small degree because of the multiple back injuries, or what?

[timvp]

Does anyone remember how Nando scored his two buckets that weren't 3s? I remember timvp saying something about Nando actually scoring while being guarded, but I missed it. Stupid ads...

He hit a guarded three-pointer on a pass from Manu, IIRC. I was surprised he shot it (since he usually doesn't even shoot when he's open) but glad he made it. He got another bucket on a backdoor pass, also from Manu, IIRC. And then got a backup on a goaltending call when Larry Sanders blocked his shot once and then tried to block it again after it hit the backboard.

[Manufan909]

No, I don't think Splitter is in line to start (other than games against the Lakers and any other team that comes up with a pair of large bigmen). Splitter is needed to anchor the bench unit -- on both sides of the court. Hypothetically the Spurs could start both and still have Splitter play with the bench ... but then if Splitter gets in early foul trouble, the bench becomes a bunch of midgets.

For Splitter to move into the starting lineup, the Spurs would have to acquire a backup center.

That said, I'm hoping Pop bumps Splitter's minutes up to ~25 MPG. That's doable and it should be a priority to play your fourth or fifth best player a healthy amount of time.

If by what's in bold you meant whenever TD is unavailable, then I wholeheartedly agree. Pop had at least 3 games this season (Clippers twice and Grizzlies once) already where Splitter would have made sense. Neither team has 2 "true" 7 footers, but those days are gone, tbh. I might be wrong, but I doubt anyone besides the Lakers are starting 2 quality bigs that are both over 6'10".

Also, why not use lube if you're going to sodomize ElNono so ruthlessly?:wow

[freetiago]

tallball still works as the grizzlies have proven
just need two competent 7 footers
howard +gasol doesnt work because howard has 0 basketball skills
drob+duncan worked because both are good defenders and have range on their jumpshots
gasol+randolph works because gasol at least is a good defender and both have solid all around offensive games

i would take a 7 footer posting up lebron on one end and letting lebron shoot all the jumpshots he wants on the other
he cant actually guard 5 positions and he went something like 10-50 on shots outside the paint in the finals

[silverblackfan]

Cory Joseph and Nando De Colo did fantastic jobs. For both players, their total contribution to the game wasn't really encapsulated by the final stat sheet.

I thought Nando De Colo controlled the flow and pace of the offense really well. He had a few hockey assists and hockey-hockey-assists (Behind the back pass to a rolling Splitter who hits a cutting Anderson who hits Bonner in the corner for a Vinny) that didn't show up in the stat sheet.

Cory Joseph really held is own and kept composure running the point, and when he wasn't running the point, he had pretty good, tenacious defense.


This.

[ElNono]

So :crybig biased meanie:cry gave a C instead of a B-. OK. Do you agree with TP getting a B?

B- for Tony, IMO. If we're grading as far as what individual player's ceilings are, etc. (and I think that's the rationale).


You must have pretty low expectations of Manu if you think this was an average game for him. He wasn't bad but he's Manu Ginobili; his standards should be higher than having the worst plus/minus on the team and hitting 30% of his shots.

Ginobili is damn good at basketball, if you haven't noticed.

Well, we disagree what constitutes an average game for Manu, tbh... Manu having an average game is an automatic B+, IMO. And that's indeed because Manu is damn good at basketball (and because the church's scriptures make it so, but that's a different topic). His 'average' is a lot of people's 'good' games.

A 'subpar' game would place him at B or B-... C means basically he didn't suit up, or there's some hidden agenda, tbh.


If Manu had 22 points (on 11 shots) and ten assists and I only gave him a B, you'd drive over to my house and murder me, tbh.

Murder is too much and frankly, I'm not at driving distance, which is an impediment. I would likely contact one of the church many minions and have him "borrow" your Tony Parker poster collection though.


Four points and three assists on three shots in seven minutes. That's ~28 points and ~21 assists per 48 minutes. Not exactly what I'd call invisible, but to each his own.

You left out two turnovers... and half of those points where from freebies... hero ball all over... at least Manu had half the amount of turnovers and twice as many rebounds.

I'm just merely one CoM member speaking out against this injustice, tbh...


I didn't see it til after I posted my grades but:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206388

Everyone :crybiased:cry

tbh, haven't checked that thread yet, but I'm sure the churchgoers will contact me immediately if there's something going on there.


I don't remember it happening so far during the regular season. IIRC, Kawhi defended CP3 for a few possessions in the first Clippers game ... but since then I don't remember any hiding of TP. Do you?

IIRC, Green defended CP3 sporadically in the last Clippers game too. But I would need to review my extensive videotape collection to give you a better answer, tbh.

[timvp]

B- for Tony, IMO. If we're grading as far as what individual player's ceilings are, etc. (and I think that's the rationale).B- for TP and Manu this game? Interesting.


Well, we disagree what constitutes an average game for Manu, tbh... Manu having an average game is an automatic B+, IMO. And that's indeed because Manu is damn good at basketball (and because the church's scriptures make it so, but that's a different topic). His 'average' is a lot of people's 'good' games.

A 'subpar' game would place him at B or B-... C means basically he didn't suit up, or there's some hidden agenda, tbh.
I consider B- as an average grade and then go from there. Perhaps that is the source of the confusion.


Murder is too much and frankly, I'm not at driving distance, which is an impediment. I would likely contact one of the church many minions and have him "borrow" your Tony Parker poster collection though.Tbh, timvp jr has three posters ... Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker ................ and Matt Bonner :depressed

[Manufan909]

He hit a guarded three-pointer on a pass from Manu, IIRC. I was surprised he shot it (since he usually doesn't even shoot when he's open) but glad he made it. He got another bucket on a backdoor pass, also from Manu, IIRC. And then got a backup on a goaltending call when Larry Sanders blocked his shot once and then tried to block it again after it hit the backboard.
Damn timvp, it seems as if you and Duncan orchestrated a buy one get one free deal with the devil to get back to your prime or something.


tallball still works as the grizzlies have proven
just need two competent 7 footers
howard +gasol doesnt work because howard has 0 basketball skills
drob+duncan worked because both are good defenders and have range on their jumpshots
gasol+randolph works because gasol at least is a good defender and both have solid all around offensive games

i would take a 7 footer posting up lebron on one end and letting lebron shoot all the jumpshots he wants on the other
he cant actually guard 5 positions and he went something like 10-50 on shots outside the paint in the finals

I won't deny that the Grizzlies have an opposing frontline, tops in the league by far when it comes to offense, but Z-bo is six freaking nine son. If you average Zach and Marc they are 6'11", which is probably the tallest frontline outside of Indiana, tbh.

And Pop/Sloan/Phil would be able to make Gasol and Howard work, I do believe. Just have them split setting up in the low post equally, curb down Kobe's touches drastically and see what happens. That last requirement is as likely as Bill Clinton being faithful from here on, so the Lakers are fucked. Unless Nash's Midas touch is still working, of course.

[DapDaGenius]

I can't believe Bonner had 12 rebounds this game......

[AussieFanKurt]

I can't believe Bonner had 12 rebounds this game......

It was a surprising thing to see, won't see it again for a while

[ElNono]

B- for TP and Manu this game? Interesting.

Tony is the player in his prime, or so we're told (:rolleyes)... Manu is supposed to be the guy on his way out... I mean, in a twisted, sick way, it all makes sense, tbh.


I consider B- as an average grade and then go from there. Perhaps that is the source of the confusion.

That's probably it. We'll be happy to forward you a copy of the scriptures, if you promise not to burn them like Brazil did when we sent them to him...


Tbh, timvp jr has three posters ... Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker ................ and Matt Bonner :depressed

That's fucked up...







... a Tony Parker poster, really? Poor child :lol

[Sean Cagney]

Bonner seems to be a humble and smart guy I can never fully hate him. .

I can..... He sucks.

[DapDaGenius]

It was a surprising thing to see, won't see it again for a while

Yeah, I hope he proves us wrong though.

[Paranoid Pop]

Thanks Timvp, tried to watch that one after it ended on LP but I could do it, was to shitty to watch without skipping half the game tbh so the grades are more than welcome.

Here's my wishlist for Christmas :

- that we sign Kenyon Martin regardless of how much of an headcase he is. The alternative is signing a backup center but I don't believe in that option because when the Thunder will go small, Tiago will be atomised by Durant on D and won't make him pay on O, can't post up a PG, horrid hook shot, enough said, show me some video evidence of Tiago backing up and bullying his man (like Sjax does on automatic)... Instead playing a big lineup with Boris and Kenyon would be awesome because Kenyon is fast enough to guard Sfs so we could switch the defense with Boris guarding the PF on D (Ibaka, Battier and so on) when the other team goes big with a star SF and have him play the 3 on offense. Kawhi is too small to play lockdown D on Sfs, I've seen him get pushed around by Metta and Lebron.

Tim Duncan
Kenyon Martin
Boris Diaw
Kawhi Leonard
TP

That would be elite defensively.

- that we ship some of the midgets to whoever wants them, we have farmed way too many, it gets confusing and takes up valuable roster space, Blair belongs in the midget category as well. There's no use of having 4 back up PGs come playoffs time.

What I think will happen :

- Pop will trade for Isiah Thomas because he can't wait to try a micro lineup of Thomas/Mills/TP/Neal/Blair and in the off season he will ask TP to recruit his good friend CP3 so that he can go full microbial.

[Capt Bringdown]

Our bench looks so deep in the regular season.

[ChuckD]

Pop is too high, his first rotations were bad. i would give a B+
Nope. Spurs were EXTREMELY shorthanded, and likely his top 10 player 5s were not available. GREAT adaptation on the fly.

[spurspokesman]

Matt Bonner is and always will be fool's gold.

This

[Bruno]

Nice to see Nando having another good game after the Miami game. He didn't start that well his NBA career but he is getting better. Let's hope it will continue.

Something that is helping Nando is the chemistry he had with Tiago on the pick and roll. It may have been forgotten but they have been teammates during about the month last year in Spain while there was a lockout. Spurs brought back the recipe that made the bench so successful last season: Splitter surrounded by shooters with Splitter being involved in a pick and roll as the primary play.

[spurspokesman]

Bonner 12 rebs. Thought it was a misprint.

[romain.star]

Nice to see Nando having another good game after the Miami game. He didn't start that well his NBA career but he is getting better. Let's hope it will continue.

Something that is helping Nando is the chemistry he had with Tiago on the pick and roll. It may have been forgotten but they have been teammates during about the month last year in Spain while there was a lockout. Spurs brought back the recipe that made the bench so successful last season: Splitter surrounded by shooters with Splitter being involved in a pick and roll as the primary play.

Never been found of Nando's game but one must admit he's mentally tough and can handle pressure. At last, one bench player who should not disappear coming PO time

[jjktkk]

Thanks Tim.

[UZER]

Bonner regular season:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110319112205/warnerbroscartoons/images/0/06/Michigan_J_Frog.gif

Bonner playoffs:

http://www.ncregister.com/images/sized/images/uploads/michigan-j-frog-255x192.jpg

[Brazil]

:cry Manu is old even when he sucks he deserves a B- :cry

[Kidd K]

http://i.imgur.com/Z56x3.gif


Are there any Bill Cosby's on ST?

I mean real, true Bills Cosby's. I am.

I had my awakening when I was 17. After a night of gorging myself on box after box of pudding pops, I was visited by a Bill Cosby. He called himself Bill Cosby. He came in through my bedroom window and spoke to me about his ability and his Jell-O.

He placed his hands upon my chest and I soon felt very cold. I dropped to my knees and looked up at him. He grabbed me by my neck and covered me with chocolate pudding. Oh, the feeling of such power coursing through my veins was almost orgasmic, I passed out from the pleasure.

When I awoke, there was a small scroll on the floor in front of my body. I sat up slowly, my whole body was dead cold. When I reached out for it and read it, I understood it completely. This was strange because it was written in Latin. It told me that I could get $1 of my next Jell-O brand purchase.

What are my powers you ask? I have the ability to draw the pudding from your body. A pudding Bill Cosby. This kind of Bill Cosby is special because I can still go out in the sun and have a normal functioning life. I feed off pudding instead of blood.

So here I am now, I've had my powers for over 3 years. They're great. I'm in very high respect of the elders and I've become a sire to a few of my own underlings.

Pic related.

. . .the fuck?

[Mouth is Bleeding]

It's interesting that even with his early boxscore and health problems, Manu is still owning an advanced stat (possibly the best, most popular right now?) like RAPM (Regularized Adjusted Plus/Minus) and is third behind Lebron and CP3.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2013.html

[wildbill2u]

as a completely objective fan
spurs need to pass the ball to tiago "mr fourth quarter" splitter more
nando is the only spur who passed to him and its no suprised we went on a 16-2 when he did
splitter either got easy layups or made good passes while rolling
then parker came in and played hero mode and the lead went away

I agree with you (and Manufan below) that the team doesn't seem to see Splitter enough when he is open. I can't understand it. It almost seems as if they have made up their mind beforehand to pass to a certain player and simply miss it when he slips away from his man and gets wide-open near the basket. It is something that he does extremely well and I've noted these missed opportunities many times in many games.

Maybe it's just because without Manu and now De Colo we simply don't have any natural PGs with great passing ability.

[Gagnrath]

Never been found of Nando's game but one must admit he's mentally tough and can handle pressure. At last, one bench player who should not disappear coming PO time

Neal does not disappear he gets blown by on defense but the man can shoot the ball anytime.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Whats with the Bonner rebounding lately??

Half a dozen DNP-CD's early in the season has a way of focusing attention.

[DMC]

Matt was fighting for rebounds, not doing his normal standing back, fake hustle and bother the outlet pass stuff. I thought he was a big part of why the Spurs got back into the game and eventually took over. The last few minutes were disturbing however, as Tony and Manu took turns finding creative ways to not use clock and turn the ball over.

[DMC]

Neal does not disappear he gets blown by on defense but the man will shoot the ball anytime.

fixed

[ElNono]

:cry I love my boi Tony hero ball... A++ :cry

[spurs108]

Parker has been defending the opposing point guard in virtually every game this season. I don't remember a time he hasn't. Pop hasn't pulled out his "put Green on the opposing PG" trick thus far this season.

Against the Celtics, if i remember correctly, Pop had Parker guarding Terry and Manu guarding Rondo for a decent stretch.

[JRHernandez88]

Thanks for the easy read. Ended up falling asleep on the couch! Any highlight plays?

[timvp]

Against the Celtics, if i remember correctly, Pop had Parker guarding Terry and Manu guarding Rondo for a decent stretch.

Even if true, that's not hiding Parker. Parker is the best Terry defender on the team and Terry is much more difficult to defend than a Rondo who was going for that assist streak.

[Fireball]

Another great game by the bench players. I'm really going bananas in the first half right now ... no 3 point shots go in whatsoever. But the Spurs still win these games, so I am not gonna complain too long. I have never seen Matty rebound the ball so fiercely. Tiago could have more rebounds, but he seems to give away the easy ones to Gary Neal (who really tries to improve his stats by taking the rebounds where no opponent is in sight). The DeColo/Splitter connections were beautiful to watch. Joseph and Anderson looked good as well. Now its one day rest and then the Rockets come to town. Lets see how we handle Harden and company. Hopefully our injured players will return soon.

PS: Stephen Jackson looked like a pimp on the bench ... great suit.

[playblair]

spurs should trade patty mills with the emergence of cojo.... & call up eric dawson

[ElNono]

Even if true, that's not hiding Parker. Parker is the best Terry defender on the team and Terry is much more difficult to defend than a Rondo who was going for that assist streak.

hiding, tbh

[quentin_compson]

What's up with ElNono's "I hate TP" shtick lately? :lol

Anyway, it was nice to see the Spurs taking care of the defensive glass this time. Cory Joseph also deserves props for his hustle. Blair, on the other hand, seems to have lost most of his finishing abilities.

[Mel_13]

No, I don't think Splitter is in line to start (other than games against the Lakers and any other team that comes up with a pair of large bigmen). Splitter is needed to anchor the bench unit -- on both sides of the court. Hypothetically the Spurs could start both and still have Splitter play with the bench ... but then if Splitter gets in early foul trouble, the bench becomes a bunch of midgets.

For Splitter to move into the starting lineup, the Spurs would have to acquire a backup center.

That said, I'm hoping Pop bumps Splitter's minutes up to ~25 MPG. That's doable and it should be a priority to play your fourth or fifth best player a healthy amount of time.

Exactly.

[Slippy]

as a completely objective fan
spurs need to pass the ball to tiago "mr fourth quarter" splitter more
nando is the only spur who passed to him and its no suprised we went on a 16-2 when he did
splitter either got easy layups or made good passes while rolling
then parker came in and played hero mode and the lead went away

Tony atleast looked out for Tiago and other teammates.

Can't say the same for Gary Neal who only sees rim when running the offense. Opposing teams find that offense or his more to the point easy to pick off or guard.

Spurs played a higher percentage brand of basketbball once Nando got the ball going into 4th. That's says alot considering he can get a little fancy with passes but from a fan standpoint im loving it.

[boutons_deux]

Nando is one cool cat of a passer. unemotional, no attitude, all business, loves to Play The Right Way. If he gets his jump shot falling next year, fantastic.

But I always have to wonder WTF a 23-year-old has been doing for all these basketball years that he can shoot worth a damn.

[Obstructed_View]

Did you have a Bonner poster made for him? Surely they aren't available to buy.

[Obstructed_View]

Schtick officially worn out. Time to move on.

[maverick1948]

Bonner and Anderson deserve an A as well as Splitter, De Colo and Joseph. For some reason that 5-some created more problems for the Bucks than the starting 5. Bonner was a killer on the boards, 3 offensive and 9 on the defense. His defense was as good as Diaw and way better than Blair. Anderson is looking more and more like the player the Spurs drafted. Some of his passes were better than TP's attempts. De Colo showed what the Spurs saw in him in Europe. Ball handling skills and most of all, shooting skills. He is settling into the grind of the NBA and not nervous. I see Joseph going back to the Toros when Jax and Kawhi come back with "Patrick" Mills and Anderson swapping out with matchups for game time. I want to more of De Colo with Splitter over the next 5 or 6 games. Extended minutes I think will show he and Splitter can work together on the Spurs as well as they did on their European teams. This would let Manu move back to the starting lineup and Green back to the 2nd unit.

TD, Boris, SJax, Manu and TP, start the old geezers then bring in Splitter, Bonner, Kawhi, Neal and De Colo with Green and Blair off the bench as needed.

[Boomersgold]

Bonner and Anderson deserve an A as well as Splitter, De Colo and Joseph. For some reason that 5-some created more problems for the Bucks than the starting 5. Bonner was a killer on the boards, 3 offensive and 9 on the defense. His defense was as good as Diaw and way better than Blair. Anderson is looking more and more like the player the Spurs drafted. Some of his passes were better than TP's attempts. De Colo showed what the Spurs saw in him in Europe. Ball handling skills and most of all, shooting skills. He is settling into the grind of the NBA and not nervous. I see Joseph going back to the Toros when Jax and Kawhi come back with "Patrick" Mills and Anderson swapping out with matchups for game time. I want to more of De Colo with Splitter over the next 5 or 6 games. Extended minutes I think will show he and Splitter can work together on the Spurs as well as they did on their European teams. This would let Manu move back to the starting lineup and Green back to the 2nd unit.

TD, Boris, SJax, Manu and TP, start the old geezers then bring in Splitter, Bonner, Kawhi, Neal and De Colo with Green and Blair off the bench as needed.

I see Pop playing a bench lineup of De Colo, Mills, Splitter, Ginobili and Bonner for the next few games or until Kawhi and Leonard are back.