T-Mobile to Sell Apple Products in 2013

[leemajors]

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/06/t-mobile-apple-2013/

[Drachen]

That sucks. I was thinking about switching to T-mobile next year.

[leemajors]

That sucks. I was thinking about switching to T-mobile next year.

They are investing a lot of money in LTE regardless. Why would that be a factor in your decision at all?

[Drachen]

They are investing a lot of money in LTE regardless. Why would that be a factor in your decision at all?

Because almost all phones will be on their HSPA+ network slowing them waaaaaaay down. Sure they may get 7 cities on LTE next year and that will cause some relief on their current network, but unless you live in one of those cities, you are likely going to get slow ass speeds if Tmobile attracts a ton of apple users.

[Biernutz]

You need to check t-mobiles coverage maps before you switch. They dropped a roaming agreement with att. They could have major holes in their coverage now.

[TheMACHINE]

Now that everyone is switching to Android, t-mobile is getting Apple. lol

[ElNono]

Now that everyone is switching to Android, t-mobile is getting Apple. lol

As far as the US market is concerned, Apple actually gained ground on Android... might just be the iPhone 5 release, and we'll see if it's just short lived.

[leemajors]

http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4148212/t-mobile-to-carry-the-iphone-starting-on-april-12th-for-99-up-front

$99 iPhone 5 starting April 12, sorry Drachen :lol

[leemajors]

The HTC One will also be $99. Hopefully T-Mobile makes a dent with pricing like this and other carriers follow suit.

[TheMACHINE]

T-Mobile does things differntly...doubt other carriers will follow.

[Drachen]

The HTC One will also be $99. Hopefully T-Mobile makes a dent with pricing like this and other carriers follow suit.

funny thing is that this pricing was already available, albeit with a contract. This is actually more expensive than I am paying, though with unlimited minutes and 500 MB more data.

[Drachen]

funny thing is that this pricing was already available, albeit with a contract. This is actually more expensive than I am paying, though with unlimited minutes and 500 MB more data.

Basically I locked in at the right time.

[Wild Cobra]

I was under the impression other carriers could contract for the iPhone after AT&T had the exclusive for a year. Why so long?

[Drachen]

I was under the impression other carriers could contract for the iPhone after AT&T had the exclusive for a year. Why so long?

apple didn't want to do it.

[leemajors]

apple didn't want to do it.

They also had to make a special model for t-mobile's bands.

[Wild Cobra]

They also had to make a special model for t-mobile's bands.
Both T-Mobile and AT&T use the GSM bands. All their phones are capable of using each others frequencies.

[Wild Cobra]

It is more likely, if I am correct about the 1 year timeframe, Apple and T-Moble couldn't come to a contract agreement.

[Drachen]

Both T-Mobile and AT&T use the GSM bands. All their phones are capable of using each others frequencies.

well if you are happy with a shiny new iphone and edge data speeds, you are correct. As long as At&t unlocked your iphone to allow you to take it to Tmobile (big if), then you are correct. However, if you wanted to take advantage of T-mobile's excellent HSPA+ 42.2 speeds for data, then you needed a phone which did so on the 1700 Mhz band. Iphones built for ATT were only quad band and used ATTs 1900 Mhz spectrum for the same connectivity. Last year Tmobile got some 1900 Mhz spectrum and began refarming so that they could advertise to att customers to bring their unlocked iphones with them. This was, however, pretty limited (mostly large markets only) and you dropped to EDGE anywhere else. This Iphone will presumably be pentaband (like the nexus 4 and galaxy nexus for example), including the 1700 Mhz spectrum, alleviating the problem.

[leemajors]

Both T-Mobile and AT&T use the GSM bands. All their phones are capable of using each others frequencies.

I worded it poorly - I believe the frequencies are different, but you are wrong. Try using a iPhone 3/4/4s from ATT on T-Mobile and see if you can use anything but EDGE.

[leemajors]

I worded it poorly - I believe the frequencies are different, but you are wrong. Try using a iPhone 3/4/4s from ATT on T-Mobile and see if you can use anything but EDGE.

and Drachen beat me to it.

[Drachen]

It is more likely, if I am correct about the 1 year timeframe, Apple and T-Moble couldn't come to a contract agreement.

also, att had the exclusive for 4 years IIRC

[Wild Cobra]

I worded it poorly - I believe the frequencies are different, but you are wrong. Try using a iPhone 3/4/4s from ATT on T-Mobile and see if you can use anything but EDGE.
LOL...

Try going past your allotted gigabytes on a T-Moble phone, and you just get edge too.

Are you paying for data roaming? If not, edge is all you will get too.

[Wild Cobra]

also, att had the exclusive for 4 years IIRC
OK, that makes sense. For some reason I thought it was only 1 year. Still, the phones are capable of each others bands. That doesn't mean they aren't software limited, like some scanners are.

[Drachen]

I just explained that it was hardware limited. leemajors was my post also poorly worded? Both his responses seem pretty nonsensical to me considering the subject.

[leemajors]

I just explained that it was hardware limited. leemajors was my post also poorly worded? Both his responses seem pretty nonsensical to me considering the subject.

:lmao

[ElNono]

T-mobile has been actually retrofitting their 3g towers with 1900MHz frequency support in some areas in the last few months (including NY), which lets unlocked iPhone users actually use 3G on their network.

EDIT: Drachen explained it already.

Also, be aware T-Mobile uses LTE band 4, which is only supported by the AT&T version of the iPhone 5 (A1428). Both the unlocked version and the verizon versions do not support that band.