To root or not to root? [Archive] - SpursTalk.com Forums

lefty

12-08-2012, 11:14 PM

I dunno

Sense of achievement perhaps
Cuz it looks so complicated to do

But srsly, Im not sure if its necessary
I know it is for phones who dont officially get OS updates

My HTC phones will get JB in January, but I see all those cool JB ROMS in XDA and I want to try one of them

At the same time, Im not sure its worth the hassle, since one of the reason I diteched IOS for Android is the customization out of the box

Venti Quattro

12-09-2012, 12:04 AM

Rooting might turn your phone into a brick, and you can't run to the manufacturer and tell them :cry Please fix my phone because I bricked it from rooting :cry because they will laugh at your face.

resistanze

12-09-2012, 12:14 AM

Any man who bricks his phone while rooting in 2012 deserves to lose $600, TBH.

But no, you don't have to root your phone. Unless you're a self-respecting man, then yes.

lefty

12-09-2012, 12:30 AM

Rooting might turn your phone into a brick, and you can't run to the manufacturer and tell them :cry Please fix my phone because I bricked it from rooting :cry because they will laugh at your face.

:lol dammit :cry

Any man who bricks his phone while rooting in 2012 deserves to lose $600, TBH.

But no, you don't have to root your phone. Unless you're a self-respecting man, then yes.

:lol

Yeah I think I wont root

symple19

12-09-2012, 04:45 AM

I'm not going to do it until I can upgrade from my razor maxx to the maxx hd. Since I've never done it before, I want to do it on an old phone so it doesn't matter whether or not I fuck it up

SourCandy

12-09-2012, 12:52 PM

I dunno
I take it like "ignorance is bliss" kinda thing. I've heard tons of stuff can be done when you root. But I haven't seen it first hand on my own phone so eh. I feel like I'm not missing much....even though I probably am.

TheMACHINE

12-09-2012, 03:39 PM

I take it like "ignorance is bliss" kinda thing. I've heard tons of stuff can be done when you root. But I haven't seen it first hand on my own phone so eh. I feel like I'm not missing much....even though I probably am.

Ahhh...the motto of iphone users tbh

SourCandy

12-09-2012, 04:14 PM

Ahhh...the motto of iphone users tbh

I have s3 :lol

leemajors

12-09-2012, 10:33 PM

Ahhh...the motto of iphone users tbh

dumbass :lol you werent rooting 6 months ago

TheMACHINE

12-09-2012, 10:47 PM

I have s3 :lol

Wasnt talking about you specifically. ..I was referencing iphone users.

lefty

12-10-2012, 12:01 AM

I'm not going to do it until I can upgrade from my razor maxx to the maxx hd. Since I've never done it before, I want to do it on an old phone so it doesn't matter whether or not I fuck it up

Good idea

I take it like "ignorance is bliss" kinda thing. I've heard tons of stuff can be done when you root. But I haven't seen it first hand on my own phone so eh. I feel like I'm not missing much....even though I probably am.

I think rooting is (mostly) either for tinkerers or people whose phones wont get official OS updates

dumbass :lol you werent rooting 6 months ago

Jen's brother roots now ?

Cry Havoc

12-10-2012, 11:18 AM

I think rooting is (mostly) either for tinkerers or people whose phones wont get official OS updates

Titanium backup alone is worth rooting for. Not to mention bluetooth PS3 controller connection. Rooting is freaking awesome, there's no reason NOT to root your phone. Bricking is not a risk these days with any reputable build.

stretch

12-10-2012, 11:39 AM

Rooting is extremely easy these days. For a lot of phones, they have a computer app, where you simply plug your phone into your computer, and run the command prompt on your computer and select what you want (root, flash a recovery, flash a rom, etc...) and it automatically does it for you. Super easy.

To brick your phone, you pretty much have to go wayyyyy out of your way to do so. If you make a small mistake in the normal process of rooting or flashing something, its almost certainly not going to brick your phone, you just have to do it over again.

Getting Cyanogenmod or MIUI is worth rooting. Both are infinitely faster/better/more customizable than the stock rom. You will not be disappointed after you flash one of those roms. Cyanogenmod is pretty much android in its purest form, while MIUI basically combines the better elements of both iOS and Android into one package. Cyanogenmod is generally a bit more stable though, but MIUI is a very pretty looking and intuitive rom with IMO the best music app available. I know you (lefty) liked iOS for quite a while, so you may enjoy MIUI.

lefty

12-10-2012, 11:50 AM

Titanium backup alone is worth rooting for. Not to mention bluetooth PS3 controller connection. Rooting is freaking awesome, there's no reason NOT to root your phone. Bricking is not a risk these days with any reputable build.

Rooting is extremely easy these days. For a lot of phones, they have a computer app, where you simply plug your phone into your computer, and run the command prompt on your computer and select what you want (root, flash a recovery, flash a rom, etc...) and it automatically does it for you. Super easy.

To brick your phone, you pretty much have to go wayyyyy out of your way to do so. If you make a small mistake in the normal process of rooting or flashing something, its almost certainly not going to brick your phone, you just have to do it over again.

Getting Cyanogenmod or MIUI is worth rooting. Both are infinitely faster/better/more customizable than the stock rom. You will not be disappointed after you flash one of those roms. Cyanogenmod is pretty much android in its purest form, while MIUI basically combines the better elements of both iOS and Android into one package. Cyanogenmod is generally a bit more stable though, but MIUI is a very pretty looking and intuitive rom with IMO the best music app available. I know you (lefty) liked iOS for quite a while, so you may enjoy MIUI.
Thanks for the tips guys :tu

One thing for sure, since I have a huge sleep debt :lol, Im gonna make sure Im fully awake when I choose to root

I have a stupid question though:

I'm interested in pure JB roms (or their dark/black variations), but it seems that the stock JB Camera app replaces the Sense 4.0 camera; is there a way to flash a pure JB ROM while keeping the stock Camera app ?

leemajors

12-10-2012, 11:57 AM

sleep debt is a myth tbh

Drachen

12-10-2012, 12:00 PM

Thanks for the tips guys :tu

One thing for sure, since I have a huge sleep debt :lol, Im gonna make sure Im fully awake when I choose to root

I understand what you are saying, and I am not going to try to convince you otherwise, but when you actually do go ahead and root, you are going to come back to this comment and laugh at yourself.

resistanze

12-10-2012, 12:14 PM

Bricking is not a risk these days with any reputable build.

To brick your phone, you pretty much have to go wayyyyy out of your way to do so. If you make a small mistake in the normal process of rooting or flashing something, its almost certainly not going to brick your phone, you just have to do it over again.
Truth.

stretch

12-10-2012, 12:48 PM

I'm interested in pure JB roms (or their dark/black variations), but it seems that the stock JB Camera app replaces the Sense 4.0 camera; is there a way to flash a pure JB ROM while keeping the stock Camera app ?

As long as the .apk file for the sense camera is available, yes its possible.

Drachen

12-10-2012, 01:05 PM

leemajors

12-10-2012, 01:15 PM

I find it hard to believe there isn't a third party app better than the Sense one.

lefty

12-10-2012, 01:28 PM

As long as the .apk file for the sense camera is available, yes its possible.

Possible, yes. Probable, absolutely not. In fact, I have had nothing but HTC phones as smartphones and I have not ever seen anyone find a workaround for a using a Sense app with a non-sense framework.

Interesting; i'll browse the XDA forums to see if there is an alternative or a workaround

I find it hard to believe there isn't a third party app better than the Sense one.
Probably; but Im used the Sense camera app and its pretty awesome

Cry Havoc

12-10-2012, 01:50 PM

Interesting; i'll browse the XDA forums to see if there is an alternative or a workaround

Probably; but Im used the Sense camera app and its pretty awesome

You could also post in the Q&A. They're pretty good about helping people.

lefty

12-10-2012, 01:52 PM

You could also post in the Q&A. They're pretty good about helping people.

yup

Drachen

12-10-2012, 02:01 PM

I find it hard to believe there isn't a third party app better than the Sense one.

It is possible, but I have seen that new sense camera in action and it is pretty sweet. I would say that the newest (android 4.2) camera is pretty badass too not just for its functionality, but it's UI is pretty good.

lefty

12-10-2012, 10:11 PM

Success !

I have rooted the bitch !!!!!

Now onto flashing a ROM :D

resistanze

12-10-2012, 11:45 PM

...You didn't brick it? :(

I mean GJ son.

lefty

12-11-2012, 01:23 AM

...You didn't brick it? :(

I mean GJ son.
I fucked it up after flashing a ROM wothout gapps (lol at me)

Was able to fix it and flashed the gapps

2 problems :

- I thought I installed a JB rom, fuck it's an ICS rom :lol
- cant connect to wifi :pctoss

stretch

12-11-2012, 01:34 AM

Which rom did you flash? and what kind of phone do you have?

lefty

12-11-2012, 02:21 AM

Which rom did you flash? and what kind of phone do you have?

Phone:
HTC One S
(S4 snapdragon)

ROM:
AOKP ville Milestone 6

METHOD:
I didnt feel like doing a "manual" install, so I installed Goomanager 1st (from Play Store). and then browsed through a list of ROMS compatible with my device, then installed the rom zip file
Then I found a tutorial for HTC phones that said to install via recovery mode

And I believe there was a CM10 rom in there, silly me

Other problems :

- Music player mixing songs
- Camera app displaying shitty colors all over
- No wifi (as I already mentioned)
- Displays 3G signal instead of 4G

Should I have, in recovery mode, cleaned the cache before/after flashing to avoid those issues?

Edit : stupid me, I just realized GooManager could have flashed everything for me - while doing wiping+cleaning the cache
Tomorrow Im gonna Titanium backup, then flash CM10 (stable) via GooManager

Cry Havoc

12-11-2012, 02:52 AM

Sounds like you didn't update your radios.

lefty

12-11-2012, 02:58 AM

Sounds like you didn't update your radios.

Elaborate please ? :D

Oh and stupid me, I just realized GooManager could have flashed everything for me - while doing wiping+cleaning the cache
(stupid tutorial, why did I flash in recovery mode)

Tomorrow Im gonna Titanium backup (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#), then flash CM10 (stable) via GooManager

Cry Havoc

12-11-2012, 04:34 AM

Elaborate please ? :D

Oh and stupid me, I just realized GooManager could have flashed everything for me - while doing wiping+cleaning the cache
(stupid tutorial, why did I flash in recovery mode)

Tomorrow Im gonna Titanium backup (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#), then flash CM10 (stable) via GooManager

Not sure, but you still might need to flash the radios. Those come directly from your phone manufacturer and allow it to operate on the most updated communications protocols. They should post them in any thread you're rooting from. cntl+F for radio.

lefty

12-11-2012, 12:47 PM

Not sure, but you still might need to flash the radios. Those come directly from your phone manufacturer and allow it to operate on the most updated communications protocols. They should post them in any thread you're rooting from. cntl+F for radio.

ok so i looked through the different forums and they all linked the same Radio file; it just wouldnt flash....

Im downloading my phone/carrier's RUU file ; do you kniw if its possible to extract/isolate the radio file from the RUU ?

Thanks

Cry Havoc

12-11-2012, 03:29 PM

ok so i looked through the different forums and they all linked the same Radio file; it just wouldnt flash....

That's odd... when you say, "it wouldn't flash" are you getting an error message?

Im downloading my phone/carrier's RUU file ; do you kniw if its possible to extract/isolate the radio file from the RUU ?

I doubt it, since there's probably no reason for them to have it as a separate file.

It's really puzzling that the radio wouldn't flash. You have superuser permissions enabled, correct?

Drachen

12-11-2012, 03:34 PM

ok so i looked through the different forums and they all linked the same Radio file; it just wouldnt flash....

Im downloading my phone/carrier's RUU file ; do you kniw if its possible to extract/isolate the radio file from the RUU ?

Thanks

I have never done it, but I know it is possible... however if ALL of them have the same radio file, I would surmise that this isn't the problem. Have you searched/asked about this problem in the ROM thread?

Drachen

12-11-2012, 03:38 PM

I have never done it, but I know it is possible... however if ALL of them have the same radio file, I would surmise that this isn't the problem. Have you searched/asked about this problem in the ROM thread?

wait, I just realized you got it through goo manager. I cant find a thread for it over at xda. who was the creator?

Edit: found it over at rootzwiki
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25114-aokp-ville-milestone-6/

Drachen

12-11-2012, 03:46 PM

Cry Havoc, I really don't think that it is so complicated.

I think that you are before you do all of that, just to be sure, redownload and reflash. Do you have titanium backup? I ask because I want you to wipe cache, davlik cache, data, and system. Doing so will wipe all the apps that you have so I want you to have backed them up. You can do this with Titanium backup even the free version (though it is annoying to restore them with the free version because you have to "accept" every single app (Do you want to restore this app? [Yes], (restoring.....); Do you want to restore this app? [Yes], (restoring .. ..))

Heath Ledger

12-11-2012, 04:17 PM

Does anyone have an s3 with sprint? just wondering if its possible to do free wifi tethering with an app or mod of some type.

Cry Havoc

12-11-2012, 04:47 PM

Does anyone have an s3 with sprint? just wondering if its possible to do free wifi tethering with an app or mod of some type.

Does EasyTether work? It's great and it doesn't even require rooting.

Heath Ledger

12-11-2012, 05:24 PM

ill give it a shot thanks
but tethering is currently worthless, my phone does not get a 4g signal in my area yet and sprints 3g is disgustingly slow versus att

Cry Havoc

12-11-2012, 06:02 PM

ill give it a shot thanks
but tethering is currently worthless, my phone does not get a 4g signal in my area yet and sprints 3g is disgustingly slow versus att

Probably region specific... Sprint's 3G is pretty damn fast where I am. You can still use wifi anytime you get a signal though.

lefty

12-11-2012, 06:03 PM

wait, I just realized you got it through goo manager. I cant find a thread for it over at xda. who was the creator?

Edit: found it over at rootzwiki
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25114-aokp-ville-milestone-6/
Thanks man

I realized I didnt flash the boot img (step 5)

But again, Ive read in various forums that this step is kinda pointless if you use TWRP`is that true ??

Oh and when I say the radio file wouldnt flash, it's just that the progress stays grey for a while (it should be filling with blue), as if waiting to start the process (like 5 minutes before I decide to say fuck it, and Ive attempted to flash many times)

Drachen, Ive backed up everything through both Titanium and Goomanager, just to be sure

And yes, I do wipe cache and Devlik, etc etc before flashing

However I havent tried redownloading before reflashing - I should probably try that

Drachen

12-11-2012, 06:13 PM

Probably region specific... Sprint's 3G is pretty damn fast where I am. You can still use wifi anytime you get a signal though.

Where the heck are you? Sprint 3g is horrible almost everywhere.

Drachen

12-11-2012, 06:18 PM

Thanks man

I realized I didnt flash the boot img (step 5)

But again, Ive read in various forums that this step is kinda pointless if you use TWRP`is that true ??

Oh and when I say the radio file wouldnt flash, it's just that the progress stays grey for a while (it should be filling with blue), as if waiting to start the process (like 5 minutes before I decide to say fuck it, and Ive attempted to flash many times)

Drachen, Ive backed up everything through both Titanium and Goomanager, just to be sure

And yes, I do wipe cache and Devlik, etc etc before flashing

However I havent tried redownloading before reflashing - I should probably try that

Ok great, I didn't want to tell you to wipe system or data (factory reset) without you having backed everything up. As far as flashing the boot image, it sounds like you are rooted, but not s-off. If this is the case (and it has been a while since I was rooted/s-on), I think the only custom recovery which will allow you to just flash (without separately flashing boot img) is 4ext. Now, TWRP may have added that functionality in the last 6 months or so, but that would be something to check with the forums for your specific device.

leemajors

12-11-2012, 06:44 PM

Where the heck are you? Sprint 3g is horrible almost everywhere.

I think it was DC or Chicago, but I can't say for sure.

lefty

12-11-2012, 08:18 PM

Ok great, I didn't want to tell you to wipe system or data (factory reset) without you having backed everything up. As far as flashing the boot image, it sounds like you are rooted, but not s-off. If this is the case (and it has been a while since I was rooted/s-on), I think the only custom recovery which will allow you to just flash (without separately flashing boot img) is 4ext. Now, TWRP may have added that functionality in the last 6 months or so, but that would be something to check with the forums for your specific device.
I unlocked the bootlader via HTCdev

Does that mean Im S-ON?

Drachen

12-11-2012, 08:20 PM

I unlocked the bootlader via HTCdev

Does that mean Im S-ON?

Yes you are still S-ON. I don't know if there is an exploit to achieve S-Off (check xda). It's not a huge deal without S-off, there are workarounds, it is just nice to have S-off.

lefty

12-12-2012, 09:43 AM

Yes you are still S-ON. I don't know if there is an exploit to achieve S-Off (check xda). It's not a huge deal without S-off, there are workarounds, it is just nice to have S-off.

I just saw yearerday that TWRP had HTC Dumlock; I installed it but Im still trying to figure how to use it

In a nutshell, it allows to flash ROMs that couldnt be flashed directly or that need an imgboot (maybe thats why I couldnt get CM 10 to work) and Radios

I found explanations on HTC DUmlock, but still too technical for me; geeks understand each other, but I dont know what the fuck they are talking about :lol

I was so fed up yesterday that I attempted to flash the RUU for my phone/carrier (after relocking the bootlader), but it didnt work; I tried different methods (running the RUU, then extracting 2 files from the RUU to put them in another folder and then enter a cmd in that folder)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh !!!!!

Drachen

12-12-2012, 09:57 AM

HOW did you install the custom recovery (TWRP)
?

leemajors

12-12-2012, 10:05 AM

:lolefty

Drachen

12-12-2012, 10:18 AM

lefty

12-12-2012, 10:31 AM

HOW did you install the custom recovery (TWRP)
?

Well I used the HTC all in one toolkit (from an XDA dude); after unlocking the bootloader, you select a recovery from a list (or you can add your own in that list) and click "go"

Download this http://goo.gl/T6GsJ
install the .apk on your phone
you will be able to install bootimg from inside android.
basically you open the app, hit browse point it to the rom you want to install, it will extract the kernel, flash it, then ask you if you want to reboot. Say yes, reboot to recovery (TWRP) install the rom as usual
?????
Profit!
Interesting, thanks

I will try that tonight or this weekend; I need a break from pulling my hair out in front of my laptop

Drachen

12-12-2012, 10:35 AM

Well I used the HTC all in one toolkit (from an XDA dude); after unlocking the bootloader, you select a recovery from a list (or you can add your own in that list) and click "go"

Interesting, thanks

I will try that tonight or this weekend; I need a break from pulling my hair out in front of my laptop

No problem, it happens. Just so you know, though, you shouldn't even need your laptop for this. You can DL the apk directly to your phone, install it on your phone, and assumedly you have the ROM already on your SD card (from when you installed it earlier). You could do this whole thing from your phone.

lefty

12-12-2012, 11:30 AM

No problem, it happens. Just so you know, though, you shouldn't even need your laptop for this. You can DL the apk directly to your phone, install it on your phone, and assumedly you have the ROM already on your SD card (from when you installed it earlier). You could do this whole thing from your phone.

Ah thats right; Ive DLed apks straight to my phone in the past, silly me :lol

THanks

Drachen

12-12-2012, 11:34 AM

let me know how it works out.

Cry Havoc

12-12-2012, 11:37 AM

Where the heck are you? Sprint 3g is horrible almost everywhere.

I think it was DC or Chicago, but I can't say for sure.

:lol It was Chicago, then DC.

I live in the bay area now, close to Google's HQ.

leemajors

12-12-2012, 11:44 AM

:lol It was Chicago, then DC.

I live in the bay area now, close to Google's HQ.

I have heard Sprint is great in Cali :lol

Damn, you move around a lot

Drachen

12-12-2012, 11:51 AM

:lol It was Chicago, then DC.

I live in the bay area now, close to Google's HQ.

Ok, that makes more sense, they are supposed to be upgrading the 3g backhaul at the same time as they are installing LTE on the towers. Nationwide, they have 3 different contractors doing the work (if I remember correctly: Samsung, Lucent, Ericksson). The region that includes Texas is being upgraded by Ericksson and they realized that they don't have enough parts to upgrade 3g, so they are just doing the LTE work, then will come back later and upgrade 3g. Everywhere else is getting that sweet 1.5 Mbps 3g.

lefty

12-12-2012, 01:33 PM

let me know how it works out.

I will

In the meantime Ill be browsing XDA forums, but ill take my time, just to make sure I dont do anything stupid

Heath Ledger

12-12-2012, 05:20 PM

I am loving this damn S3 never thought id leave my iphone but no regrets here android os has come a lonnnnnng way since the last time I took a look at it.

Drachen

12-12-2012, 05:26 PM

I am loving this damn S3 never thought id leave my iphone but no regrets here android os has come a lonnnnnng way since the last time I took a look at it.

LOL, you too!?!?

Cry Havoc

12-12-2012, 06:21 PM

I have heard Sprint is great in Cali :lol

Damn, you move around a lot

:lol Yup. I like where I'm at now though, probably staying here for a long time. Snowboarding in Tahoe this break... can't beat that!

lefty

12-12-2012, 06:33 PM

Updaaaaaaaaate, motherfuckers !!!!!!!!!!

Turns out my major issues - no Wifi, recent JB roms not booting up after flashing them (stuck at HTC welcome screen) were caused by the fact that my phoneis S-ON with HBOOT 1.13 or higher
Which means that I have to flash a ROM boot.img (the rom kernel) via my PC

I just found that out today (but hey Im a noob and HTC phones are harder to hack than other brands)

So I found a tutorial to do that step, but you have to download a file, enter commands to install it properly, then plug phone to PC, enter other commands.... I didnt feel loke doing all that shit TBH

But I accidentally found a thread about an Play Store app that does that for the user :D (Flash Image GUI)

All you have to do is select the ROM you want to flash, it will locate the kernel and flash it

Then go in Recovery, flash the ROM and gapps, and voila !

Not only the most recent ROMS will boot up, but I got my WIFI back too !

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzi5aqZ1Ek1rn95k2o1_250.gif

Heath Ledger

12-12-2012, 07:13 PM

LOL, you too!?!?

I still think the Iphone is a very solid phone, but the whole IOS experience is getting a little stale for me. For the first time I didn't upgrade to the newest Iphone dating back to the 3G. I am IOS'd out between Iphones and Ipads. The buy one get one deal with spring for $199 was a no brainer for me. My gf was anticipating returning the S3 but she loves it after I taught her how to use it. Her Iphone 4 just quit working one day stopped powering on so the timing was perfect for this Sprint deal.

Cry Havoc

12-12-2012, 09:03 PM

I still think the Iphone is a very solid phone, but the whole IOS experience is getting a little stale for me. For the first time I didn't upgrade to the newest Iphone dating back to the 3G. I am IOS'd out between Iphones and Ipads. The buy one get one deal with spring for $199 was a no brainer for me. My gf was anticipating returning the S3 but she loves it after I taught her how to use it. Her Iphone 4 just quit working one day stopped powering on so the timing was perfect for this Sprint deal.

Apple stopped innovating a long time ago. They're coasting now, and losing ground every month to Android.

I hope Windows can start gaining ground in the mobile marketplace. Would be nice to have a 3 way competition for customers.

Drachen

12-13-2012, 11:24 AM

Download this http://goo.gl/T6GsJ
install the .apk on your phone
you will be able to install bootimg from inside android.
basically you open the app, hit browse point it to the rom you want to install, it will extract the kernel, flash it, then ask you if you want to reboot. Say yes, reboot to recovery (TWRP) install the rom as usual
?????
Profit!

Updaaaaaaaaate, motherfuckers !!!!!!!!!!

Turns out my major issues - no Wifi, recent JB roms not booting up after flashing them (stuck at HTC welcome screen) were caused by the fact that my phoneis S-ON with HBOOT 1.13 or higher
Which means that I have to flash a ROM boot.img (the rom kernel) via my PC

I just found that out today (but hey Im a noob and HTC phones are harder to hack than other brands)

So I found a tutorial to do that step, but you have to download a file, enter commands to install it properly, then plug phone to PC, enter other commands.... I didnt feel loke doing all that shit TBH

But I accidentally found a thread about an Play Store app that does that for the user :D (Flash Image GUI)

All you have to do is select the ROM you want to flash, it will locate the kernel and flash it

Then go in Recovery, flash the ROM and gapps, and voila !

Not only the most recent ROMS will boot up, but I got my WIFI back too !

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzi5aqZ1Ek1rn95k2o1_250.gif

are you fucking kidding me?

lefty

12-13-2012, 11:44 AM

are you fucking kidding me?

:lmao

Oh shit I totally forgot about your link. sorry :lol

Thats because I was doing so much research on the internetz about why I had no WIFI and wasnt able to use recent JB roms ....which led me to the thread about the app

Again I'm really sorry :lol

resistanze

12-13-2012, 12:03 PM

:lmao

stretch

12-13-2012, 02:48 PM

rofl

Drachen

12-13-2012, 03:42 PM

Don't worry, it is better for you that you "found it by yourself". I usually tell people to go read up on stuff anyway, but I know how frustrating that can be so I thought I would grease the wheels a little. Apparently, the grease I was using was actually sand though :stompsoffindignantly

lefty

12-13-2012, 04:00 PM

:lol

Anyway, thanks for your help :tu

JellyBAM is pretty awesome

Its also my 1st taste of Jelly Bean :D (since HTC plans to release it in North America in 3025)

It combines features of CM, AOKP and Paranoidandroid

resistanze

12-13-2012, 04:46 PM

I had JellyBam on my S2 but for me it combined too much shit and ran a little slower than I wanted (plus I don't use the features of ParanoidAndroid).

I went back to Vanilla Rootbox AOKP tbh.

Drachen

12-13-2012, 05:13 PM

I had JellyBam on my S2 but for me it combined too much shit and ran a little slower than I wanted (plus I don't use the features of ParanoidAndroid).

I went back to Vanilla Rootbox AOKP tbh.

I have run PA on my Evo3D. It's good enough, but I feel like the screen is a little small for its specific features. I am on an unofficial CM right now (since the 3d is a bastard stepchild and no one wants to dev for it). It works good enough, but my battery is getting worse and worse. I unplug at 6:30 and get my 14% warning at about 9:15. Of course the battery is 2 years old.

resistanze

12-13-2012, 05:41 PM

I have run PA on my Evo3D. It's good enough, but I feel like the screen is a little small for its specific features. I am on an unofficial CM right now (since the 3d is a bastard stepchild and no one wants to dev for it). It works good enough, but my battery is getting worse and worse. I unplug at 6:30 and get my 14% warning at about 9:15. Of course the battery is 2 years old.

Yeah, the tablet mode features just make me squint, no thanks.

I would be on a Nexus 4 if they were ever in stock, but the whole thing has put me off. I almost feel that the phone was more of a marketing gimmick - no way they couldn't have known a phone at that price wouldn't be in high demand.

Drachen

12-13-2012, 05:47 PM

Yeah, the tablet mode features just make me squint, no thanks.

I would be on a Nexus 4 if they were ever in stock, but the whole thing has put me off. I almost feel that the phone was more of a marketing gimmick - no way they couldn't have known a phone at that price wouldn't be in high demand.

They have never had huge demand for a nexus.
Heck, the 32GB galaxy nexus has been 350 for many months and it wasn't moving very fast.

resistanze

12-13-2012, 05:58 PM

They have never had huge demand for a nexus.
Heck, the 32GB galaxy nexus has been 350 for many months and it wasn't moving very fast.

The other Nexuses weren't offered the same way this one, though. I think the Galaxy Nexus was available for $300 on contract and $700 unlocked (not initally available in play store). It wasn't until this summer they slashed the price to $350 unlocked, 8 months after the phone was out.

In the Nexus 4 you had a brand new phone on the newest Android (OS that has continued to grow) being offered for $300/$350 unlocked. Heck if you're not from T-mobile you're definately are gonna pick the unlocked ones up, so I'm not sure how they could underestimate demand by so much. Mind you, I can't imagine selling a phone like this at that price yields much of a profit margin - which would make sense why supply has been the way it has been.

Drachen

12-13-2012, 06:15 PM

The other Nexuses weren't offered the same way this one, though. I think the Galaxy Nexus was available for $300 on contract and $700 unlocked (not initally available in play store). It wasn't until this summer they slashed the price to $350 unlocked, 8 months after the phone was out.

In the Nexus 4 you had a brand new phone on the newest Android (OS that has continued to grow) being offered for $300/$350 unlocked. Heck if you're not from T-mobile you're definately are gonna pick the unlocked ones up, so I'm not sure how they could underestimate demand by so much. Mind you, I can't imagine selling a phone like this at that price yields much of a profit margin - which would make sense why supply has been the way it has been.

I understand that it isn't exactly the same, but that price drop was only 6 months after release and it wasn't flying. I am not saying that they should have anticipated the same kind of sales as the Gnex, but that they could have drawn some conclusions from it. Add to that all of the whining about 8GB, 16GB, and HSPA+ and it is easy to see how demand could be much higher than expectations.

resistanze

12-13-2012, 10:33 PM

I understand that it isn't exactly the same, but that price drop was only 6 months after release and it wasn't flying. I am not saying that they should have anticipated the same kind of sales as the Gnex, but that they could have drawn some conclusions from it. Add to that all of the whining about 8GB, 16GB, and HSPA+ and it is easy to see how demand could be much higher than expectations.

While I agree there was talk about the LTE and space issues, I think there was much more talk/hype about the attractive price point, tbh.

But I mean seriously, the phone has been available for a total of like 20 freaking minutes on the Play Store since it was released. I'm not even sure if the stock can be compared to what they had in the past with other GNexes (well until they (IF they) release sales figures).

Drachen

12-13-2012, 10:40 PM

I would like to see sales figures too.

leemajors

12-14-2012, 07:01 AM

While I agree there was talk about the LTE and space issues, I think there was much more talk/hype about the attractive price point, tbh.

But I mean seriously, the phone has been available for a total of like 20 freaking minutes on the Play Store since it was released. I'm not even sure if the stock can be compared to what they had in the past with other GNexes (well until they (IF they) release sales figures).

LG might not know what to do with one of their phones actually being in demand tbh

lefty

12-14-2012, 10:10 AM

I had JellyBam on my S2 but for me it combined too much shit and ran a little slower than I wanted (plus I don't use the features of ParanoidAndroid).

I went back to Vanilla Rootbox AOKP tbh.

JellyBAM runs smoothly on HTC One S

I must have a more recent version than the one you had

Yeah it sucks that you have to browse through PA, AOPK and CM to find the setting you want to tweak, but I can live wtih it

Oh and I guess its a good thing I upgraded to JB with a ROM

Jelly Bean is being rolled out on the HTC Evo 4G, even though they never made an announcement about it, while HTC One S was supposed to get JB in October

Are you fucking kidding me ? :lmao

Trainwreck2100

12-14-2012, 10:19 AM

leemajors

12-14-2012, 10:28 AM

JellyBAM runs smoothly on HTC One S

I must have a more recent version than the one you had

Yeah it sucks that you have to browse through PA, AOPK and CM to find the setting you want to tweak, but I can live wtih it

Oh and I guess its a good thing I upgraded to JB with a ROM

Jelly Bean is being rolled out on the HTC Evo 4G, even though they never made an announcement about it, while HTC One S was supposed to get JB in October

Are you fucking kidding me ? :lmao

In many ways, this touches directly on the fragmentation issue that's becoming more and more prevalent with each passing Android release. The longer the platform lives, the more people are being left behind on older builds. Without trying to read too closely betwixt the lines, it sure sounds as if Google's top priority is to get Android to as many people as possible, while letting the details -- things like percentage of Android users able to update to its latest version -- fall as they may. It's obviously a very different tactic from that taken in Cupertino, but then again, thinking differently sure hasn't hurt either of the two.

Google basically doesn't give a shit about everyone getting updates. Good thing the dev community is so strong.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/12/google-eric-schmidt-android-growth/

lefty

12-14-2012, 12:00 PM

I got that htc official JB update and i wasn't even waiting for it u mad bro?

I was talking about the more recent LTE version
Is that what you own ?

Google basically doesn't give a shit about everyone getting updates. Good thing the dev community is so strong.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/12/google-eric-schmidt-android-growth/

yup

Trainwreck2100

12-14-2012, 01:23 PM

I was talking about the more recent LTE version
Is that what you own ?

yup

lefty

12-14-2012, 02:06 PM

yup

Cool :tu

Jelly Bean is the shit tbh

resistanze

12-15-2012, 09:26 AM

LG might not know what to do with one of their phones actually being in demand tbh

This is not out of the question, tbh

Venti Quattro

12-15-2012, 10:06 AM

I found the app that I need without rooting, so I'm not going to.

Trainwreck2100

12-15-2012, 12:08 PM

wot ap was that?

DJ Mbenga

12-17-2012, 01:35 AM

wot ap was that?

probably talking about the one click root

leemajors

12-17-2012, 07:20 AM

This is not out of the question, tbh

http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/17/3775726/google-apologizes-for-nexus-4-delays-says-supplies-are-scarce-and-erratic

resistanze

12-17-2012, 09:30 AM

Google going HAM on LG. I wanna see if LG snitches on Google... 'but this is what you said you wanted!!"

lefty

12-17-2012, 09:44 AM

:cry :cry :cry

My HTC running Jellybean :cry

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MmD6Uje1Q50/UM545s9sJhI/AAAAAAAAAGs/OousvjEeLnw/s512/Screenshot_2012-12-16-00-31-18.pnghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0qJPxO0czoY/UM546vvLLMI/AAAAAAAAAG0/MYnEC5Qaoiw/s512/Screenshot_2012-12-16-00-27-15.pnghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5SH90pv0g8M/UM543c4QUiI/AAAAAAAAAGc/Q_oHbwND7Ho/s512/Screenshot_2012-12-16-01-40-15.pnghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mJG0jHVrqDo/UM542peB-BI/AAAAAAAAAGU/Dzpd8lfueUU/s512/Screenshot_2012-12-16-01-40-35.pnghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q_Mgdpbwr_o/UM544cquFjI/AAAAAAAAAGk/K_2zDNWc-SM/s512/Screenshot_2012-12-16-01-38-36.png

The JellyBAM bootanimation is pretty awesome:

http://geek01.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/jelly-bam-boot-animation.png

resistanze

12-17-2012, 09:53 AM

lol italy

Yeah the rocket ship thingy is awesome.

-11? Dafuq nigga? It's 8 degrees here.

lefty

12-17-2012, 10:10 AM

-11? Dafuq nigga? It's 8 degrees here.

And that wasnt even real feel temp; by the way, I didnt take those pics today :lol

I know you didnt like J-BAM, but on my phone its super smooth (maybe you ran an older version, I dunno)

And battery life destroys stock's :wow

resistanze

12-17-2012, 10:32 AM

I liked JellyBam, I just found it hogged my RAM (<100MB free of 1 GB) and my battery life was weird. Could be the ROM for S2 still is a little rough or maybe it's just my phone.

RootBox is almost exactly like JellyBam expect I've had more free RAM/battery, tbh.

lefty

12-17-2012, 12:47 PM

leemajors

12-17-2012, 01:21 PM

r00t j00r b0x0rz lol

Cry Havoc

12-17-2012, 01:42 PM

Hmmm, XDA now has at least one Jelly Bean ROM for my Evo... Gotta think about switching over if they have an S-ON rom available...

lefty

12-17-2012, 02:06 PM

Hmmm, XDA now has at least one Jelly Bean ROM for my Evo... Gotta think about switching over if they have an S-ON rom available...

Which ROM is it ?

Cry Havoc

12-17-2012, 02:22 PM

Which ROM is it ?

There are a few that I'm seeing, but since I'm already using MeanROM I'll probably just hop over to Mikey's MeanBean. His MeanROM so far has been phenomenal on my EvoLTE.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048229

lefty

12-17-2012, 03:42 PM

There are a few that I'm seeing, but since I'm already using MeanROM I'll probably just hop over to Mikey's MeanBean. His MeanROM so far has been phenomenal on my EvoLTE.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048229

Correct me if Im wrong, but Meanrom is ICS ?

Cry Havoc

12-18-2012, 02:01 AM

Correct me if Im wrong, but Meanrom is ICS ?

Yes, I'm currently using MeanROM and have been for a while. MeanBean is the new build from mikey, using JellyBean.

Venti Quattro

12-18-2012, 02:05 AM

I know nothing about rooting so everything you're mentioning in this thread is gibberish to me. Carry on...

resistanze

12-18-2012, 07:54 AM

I know nothing about rooting so everything you're mentioning in this thread is gibberish to me. Carry on...

Root bitch!

Did you get that 50GB bonus deal for dropbox for your Note 2? Because if you didn't, you can root your phone and enable it, tbh.

lefty

12-18-2012, 09:27 AM

Yes, I'm currently using MeanROM and have been for a while. MeanBean is the new build from mikey, using JellyBean.

Ah ok

You are gonna love JB :D

I know nothing about rooting so everything you're mentioning in this thread is gibberish to me. Carry on...

Rooting is fun!

Not really it was pain in the ass for me, and like you the instructions sounded Chinese to me (but now I know better)

Bootloaderfastbootfruitloop lolitalyflashbootimg twrpcroflverycmd

But again, HTC phones are harder to hack than other brands

Sammy should be easier to root/flash

Root bitch!

Did you get that 50GB bonus deal for dropbox for your Note 2? Because if you didn't, you can root your phone and enable it, tbh.

:lol this man convinced me to do it

resistanze

12-18-2012, 10:13 AM

:lol Ironically I semi-bricked my phone this morning updating to the new RootBox 4.2.1 ROM. That's what happens when you go out on a work night.

Didn't actually brick it, but I can't do what I need to do to fix it on my fucking work computer.

lefty

12-18-2012, 10:23 AM

resistanze

12-18-2012, 11:27 AM

did you miss a step?

wiping?

I downloaded an 'upgrade rom' rather than the full one, which was already experimental.

And yeah, didn't wipe anything (cache, devlik) and didn't install new gapps for 4.2.1. Just an all-around fail. :lol

I wiped everything and just started from scratch. Hopefully my old titanium backups saved most of my shit.

lefty

12-18-2012, 02:15 PM

lol

Venti Quattro

12-18-2012, 09:52 PM

fucking work computer.

:lmao medicine companies

resistanze

12-18-2012, 10:48 PM

:lmao medicine companies

lol MS Office 2003
lol "your browser in unsupported" when in GMail
lol MS Netmeeting

Drachen

12-18-2012, 11:00 PM

lol MS Office 2003
lol "your browser in unsupported" when in GMail
lol MS Netmeeting

Dude, download Chrome. I did it on my work computer. When it asked for an admin password, I hit cancel thinking "oh well" then it popped up a box that said "Chrome can install without admin permissions. Continue?"

lol
fucking google

resistanze

12-18-2012, 11:06 PM

Dude, download Chrome. I did it on my work computer. When it asked for an admin password, I hit cancel thinking "oh well" then it popped up a box that said "Chrome can install without admin permissions. Continue?"

lol
fucking google

I tried months ago, didn't let me install. Admin permissions prevented me - maybe it's changed recently?

I was able to install Firefox so I use that an my alternative to IE8.

Drachen

12-18-2012, 11:11 PM

ah, ok

anakha

12-23-2012, 05:35 PM

lefty's experience kinda sums up the whole rooting experience on HTC phones. If that had been a Verizon HTC phone, he might have offed himself from frustration. :lol

lefty

12-23-2012, 08:19 PM

lefty's experience kinda sums up the whole rooting experience on HTC phones. If that had been a Verizon HTC phone, he might have offed himself from frustration. :lol

:lol
There is no better rooting school than HTC phones.
If you can root an HTC, you can root any Android phone TBH

Viva Las Espuelas

01-13-2013, 06:15 PM

Ok. Don't mean to bust in your thread, lefty. I'm ready to do this to my phone. I have the ATT Samsung Skyrocket. SGH-i727. It's rooted but I don't know which ROM to get. Any suggestions. I think I got the basics down but may need my hand held for my first ROM. Flashing, Wiping kinda confuse me. First thing is can I do the ROM thing strictly on my phone or does it need to be hooked up to my PC?

Go :wakeup

resistanze

01-13-2013, 06:32 PM

If you know where to browse on your phone (e.g xda-developers), it can be done on your phone.

Do you have a recovery installed (TWRP/CWM)? Needed to flash a ROM --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773659

It really depends on what you want in a ROM, I'd personally just start off with CyanogenMod 10 --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803822

Wiping is required for installing a new ROM and clears all user data. If you wanna preserve it, I'd download Titanium Backup to save your data. And make sure you use the recovery to backup an image of your current ROM and data in case you just wanna revert back.

Viva Las Espuelas

01-13-2013, 06:47 PM

Cool. I have CWM installed. I did all that and I got TB Pro. I'm all in :D I'm backing up as we speak. So, I don't need to do a wipe before I go from the stock ROM to CM10 is what you're saying?

Nevermind. I saw the instructions :D

Viva Las Espuelas

01-13-2013, 06:59 PM

Oh and what is this Nightly business?

resistanze

01-13-2013, 07:31 PM

Oh and what is this Nightly business?

Nightlies are like incremental releases that work on fixing bugs, released every night (or close enough). Usually there are not significant changes in nightlies; they would be represented in major builds rather.

resistanze

01-13-2013, 07:32 PM

And good luck! Once you do it once you can basically do anything, tbh.

lefty

01-13-2013, 10:10 PM

What Resistanze said

For recovery I would go with TWRP

But hey, maybe its because its better than CWM on HTC phones

Not sure about Sammys though

Viva Las Espuelas

01-14-2013, 12:26 AM

lefty

01-14-2013, 02:17 AM

Did you backup your contacts in Gmail ?

If you didnt check your contact list in your gmail account as they might be there

resistanze

01-14-2013, 09:29 AM

well i got cm10 on my phone but the restore of my apps and data isn't going too smoothly. i'm getting a lot of "______ process has stopped" messages and stuff. my contacts didn't restore properly. i'll mess with it some more. any suggestions?

You wiped the phone before installing CM10 I assume? I know I get those errors when I either 1) didn't wipe dataor; 2) installed gapps when it was not necessary/wrong gapps.

Did you get the FCs (errors) as soon as you tried ROm, even before you restored the apps?

As lefty touched on, contacts should really appear by itself as it's usually linked to your gmail account.

Viva Las Espuelas

01-14-2013, 09:27 PM

yes, I did the wipe before installing CM10. I installed it like it said on the instructions.

Install ClockworkMod Recovery (http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager) for "skyrocket" or "hercules" whichever matches your device. Sorry, CM and TeamChopsticks cannot provide support for other recoveries, although they may work fine.
Download the recommended radio version matching your device. (See the list below)
Download the latest nightly or stable build from http://get.cm (http://get.cm/) (choose Skyrocket or Hercules whichever matches your device)
Download the recommended Google Apps. (See the list below)
Reboot into recovery.
Wipe data/factory reset.
Format /system (mounts and storage->format /system).
Install the zip files in this order: radio zip, then CM10 zip, and finally install the gapps zip
Reboot. Let it sit for a few minutes after the first boot. Be patient.

I don't remember if I got the errors before or after I restored the apps. I would say after because I knew I had to do that. I did the full backup in TB Pro and restored it the same way. Question, being that i'm going to another version of android, will that cause the conflict? I flashed CM10 again last night and didn't do the all-in-one restore. I tried it individually but Contacts wouldn't transfer. Oh, and I don't backup anything in Google.