Who's the worst defender in the league?

[AussieFanKurt]

Lin?

[Brunodf]

Blair

[purplengold]

that a hard question because lotsa players just refusing to defend, Kobe one of them lately. if we sayin people who canna defend even if they try then just pick somebody from raptors

[JRHernandez88]

Ha true

[AussieFanKurt]

andrea bargnani

[irishock]

Derek Fisher?

[KL2]

Nash.

[Dancelot]

Novak

[DMC]

Blair by a couple of miles. Some of the guys listed are not defenders by role, but Blair is a center or wtf ever and he just finds ways to be out of position and people just score all over him.

[ElNono]

solid post by DMC, tbh... agree 100%

[KaiRMD1]

Nash

[rayjayjohnson]

i think zach lowe said statistically it's kyrie irving

[Latarian Milton]

Blair by a couple of miles. Some of the guys listed are not defenders by role, but Blair is a center or wtf ever and he just finds ways to be out of position and people just score all over him.
dude can't be a bad defender when he's the 2nd best rebounder on the spurs next only to big shitty. dude might lack the ability to block shots and his defensive positioning might be poor but he gives you quite a presence in the paint at least. dude has massive potential and would develop into a real good player under right guidance tbh

[Mel_13]

andrea bargnani

seconded

[Raven]

dude can't be a bad defender when he's the 2nd best rebounder on the spurs next only to big shitty. dude might lack the ability to block shots and his defensive positioning might be poor but he gives you quite a presence in the paint at least. dude has massive potential and would develop into a real good player under right guidance tbh

since when rebounding has anything to do with D?

[Raven]

andrea bargnani

+1. Also worth mentioning: Kevin Love, OJ Mayo, Jimmer Fredette

[Latarian Milton]

so defensive rebounds don't have anything to do with defense? 1on1 defense ain't the only factor to gauge someone's overall defensive ability imho.

[Raven]

so defensive rebounds don't have anything to do with defense? 1on1 defense ain't the only factor to gauge someone's overall defensive ability imho.

tbh no, it doesn't. To make it a reliable stat, you should first start counting the player who boxes out, the players who pushes the ball away from the other player about to take the O rebound, and even then you wouldn't be able to account for the players who get dribbled and take the rebound because the shooter hit the back side of the rim..

[Jodelo]

+1. Also worth mentioning: Kevin Love, OJ Mayo, Jimmer Fredette

Mayo can be good, he locked Harden down when he took him in the 4th.

He is solid at most times.

[Raven]

Mayo can be good, he locked Harden down when he took him in the 4th.

He is solid at most times.

Any guard can be good, it is a matter of stamina, basketball IQ and desire.

[Jodelo]

I just say that he does not belong in the same category like Love, Bargnani, Lin, Nash and so on...

[Crytek]

On this Season's Worst-List according to Drtg:
1. Carroll (119)
15. Rivers (113)
25. Fredette(112)
39. Haywood(111)
40. Bargnani (111)
78. Irving(110)
81. Fisher (110)
91. D-Wade(109)
93. Novak(109)
114. D-Will(108)
115. Mayo(108)
116. Harden(108)
144. Lin (107)
168. Nash(107)
175. Kobe (106)
390. Blair(99)
393. Odom(99)
411. Love(96)
415. Duncan (95)
417. Tony Allen(95)

[Mori Chu]

Michael Beasley.

[hater]

LOL Brenda

[whitemamba]

1.nash
2.pau

[DMC]

so defensive rebounds don't have anything to do with defense? 1on1 defense ain't the only factor to gauge someone's overall defensive ability imho.

No, just as offensive boards aren't considered a sign of a good offense.

Defenders are defending the basket. Rebounding is not about defending the basket. If you give up the offensive board, you then begin your defense of the basket.

So it goes:

Defense of the basket

transition to cleaning up the glass

transition to offense (if you rebound) or

transition back to defense (if you give up the offensive board).

[Malik Hairston]

Bargnani is actually a decent 1 on 1 defender, tbh..his team D sucks, but there are many other players that fail at both aspects..I wouldn't rank him as worst..

It makes more sense to rank them by position tbh, factoring different positional roles on defense..

(rotation players)
PG..
1. Derek Fisher
2. Ramon Sessions
3. Mo Williams
4. Jose Calderon
5. DJ Augustin
6. Steve Blake
7. Greivis Vasquez
8. Steve Nash
9. Aaron Brooks
10. Nate Robinson
11. Jeremy Pargo
12. Deron Williams
13. Kyrie Irving
14. CJ Watson
15. Darren Collison

Swingmen..
1. Jimmer Fredette
2. Jordan Crawford
3. Ben Gordon
4. Roger Mason
5. Marco Belineli
6. Marshon Brooks
7. Marcus Thornton
8. Nick Young
9. Randy Foye
10. Anthony Morrow
11. Kevin Martin
12. Michael Beasley
13. Luke Babbitt
14. Steve Novak
15. Corey Maggette

Bigs..
1. Byron Mullens
2. Charlie Villanueva
3. Antawn Jamison
4. Carl Landry
5. Andrea Bargnani
6. Jeff Green
7. Al Harrington
8. Amare Stoudemire
9. JJ Hickson
10. Markieff Morris
11. Pat Patterson
12. Ryan Anderson
13. Tyler Hansbrough
14. Tyler Zeller
15. David Lee

[Latarian Milton]

No, just as offensive boards aren't considered a sign of a good offense.

Defenders are defending the basket. Rebounding is not about defending the basket. If you give up the offensive board, you then begin your defense of the basket.

So it goes:

Defense of the basket

transition to cleaning up the glass

transition to offense (if you rebound) or

transition back to defense (if you give up the offensive board).
good offensive rebounding is an important tribute of good defense actually. if you get the ball from teammates, it depends on your offensive ability how good you'll do next whether pass the ball back to teammates or shoot it yourself. if you grab it off the board or from the opponents' hands, like a rebound or a steal, it's defensive ability imho

[DMC]

good offensive rebounding is an important tribute of good defense actually. if you get the ball from teammates, it depends on your offensive ability how good you'll do next whether pass the ball back to teammates or shoot it yourself. if you grab it off the board or from the opponents' hands, like a rebound or a steal, it's defensive ability imho

Handling the ball up top is a defensive ability as well. You defend the ball. You aren't on defense however as the terms "offense" and "defense" are about the basket, not the ball.

[Latarian Milton]

Handling the ball up top is a defensive ability as well. You defend the ball. You aren't on defense however as the terms "offense" and "defense" are about the basket, not the ball.
it ain't just about the ball when you grab a rebound. the purpose of defense is to take back the possession of ball and rebounding is an essential part of defense, whether its defensive rebounding or offensive. you might argue that "well, we can just play no D and let them opponents put the ball through our basket with ease, and the ball is back in our hand", then i would cringe at it tbh