Lakers lose to Cavs

[maverick1948]

Will they make the playoffs? Nash out aleast 2 more weeks. Then he has to get back in shape.

PJ Retires
Hire Brown
2nd guess Brown
Fire Brown
Hire D'antoni
2nd guess D'Antoni
What is next? Fire D'Antoni
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[timtonymanu]

The Lakers will get Kevin Love for Pau Gasol and Steve Blake.

[Brunodf]

Spurs forum...

[DatBoyGood]

Spurs have more road wins than the lakers have wins in total :lol

[spurraider21]

Spurs forum...
spurs forums consist of 2 things. loving the spurs, and hating the lakers

[maverick1948]

Spurs forum...

Yeah Spurs forum, but ain't it fun to watch the Lakers implode? Kobe goes for 40+ and loses again!!!!!!

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[Russ]

If the Spurs get the #1 seed, Lakers could be a dangerous #8.

[swaggerjackson]

I watched the whole game. I am not writing off the Lakers until they get Nash back. I don't think he will revolutionize things but it is December and they are battling injuries so I am trying not to get too excited. But man watching Varejao really made me want to see him in a Spurs uniform. I have previously stated that he might not be a good fit, but he should some more than decent passing ability and a nice little jumper. This dudes asking price is way too high right now, but if it comes back down to earth and they would go for a package centered around Jax expiring deal, there would be a really tough decision to make.

[GoSpurs99]

A 38-year old point guard is gonna turn their season around? Pfft.

[szkorhetz]

Lakers :lol

[silverblackfan]

I admit I tuned in for the last half of the game and loved Kobe and Co. imploding. Love watching the Lakers lose.

[Flawless]

Wow, things have not been looking so good for the Lakers.

[Baseline]

The Lakers will get Kevin Love for Pau Gasol and Steve Blake.

Yep - count on Stern making sure the Lakers achieve another Gasol-for-Kwame Bown type of trade to insure that they're "relevant" again.

What is so interesting to me is how the entire universe talks 24/7 about how great K. Bryant is, but he can't win anything unless he's surrounded by at least two Hall of Famers. If this fool is so great, why is his team 9-13 right now? T

ruth is, the guy's a joke of a leader. He's never been anything more than a high-volume shooter on stacked teams. Last I checked, the title teams he's been on had guys named Shaquille, Pau, and Bynum.

[TampaDude]

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[KaiRMD1]

An article came up on about how Minnesota is daring Kevin Love to leave Minnesota. My guess is Kevin Love is headed to LA. Man, at this point, I feel like facing LA in the playoffs (if by some miracle they make it that is) will be like a handicap match. 12 against 1

[Malik Hairston]

The Spurs have more road wins than the Lakers' have total wins:lol..

[admiralfats]

they are so freaking lazy/unconvincing and slow on defense. I think people might finally catch onto the fact that kobe isn't first team all-defense. He loses his guy often.

Kobe has actually been shooting really well this year, which is super unlikely to continue. it's amazing to think he's playing at such a high level and they're still this bad. Obviously, they're missing 2 main guys. But their bench is bad. It's not like every team needs to have the spurs' depth, but you need some talent on the bench. Lakers really don't have much there.

they'll get better, i suspect. If Gasol returns to his previous form and nash stays healthy, they'll be dangerous. Hard to see from the team that exists right now them putting it together in time, especially considering kobe will likely regress. he shot like 43% last year, for goodness' sake. He's already on his way back down to his career average (or lower, hopefully)

[HI-FI]

Yep - count on Stern making sure the Lakers achieve another Gasol-for-Kwame Bown type of trade to insure that they're "relevant" again.

What is so interesting to me is how the entire universe talks 24/7 about how great K. Bryant is, but he can't win anything unless he's surrounded by at least two Hall of Famers. If this fool is so great, why is his team 9-13 right now? T

ruth is, the guy's a joke of a leader. He's never been anything more than a high-volume shooter on stacked teams. Last I checked, the title teams he's been on had guys named Shaquille, Pau, and Bynum.
I truly hate Stern as much as anyone on here, but was the Gasol deal really about Stern or was it more about the Jerry West connection? I'm asking because I don't know, that whole thing still makes no sense to me.

[spurraider21]

I truly hate Stern as much as anyone on here, but was the Gasol deal really about Stern or was it more about the Jerry West connection? I'm asking because I don't know, that whole thing still makes no sense to me.
To be honest, Memphis was trying to dump Gasol (though I'm really not sure why). In return they got some prospects (including Marc Gasol (boom) and Javaris Crittenton (now a 1st round bust)), and they got Kwame Brown just to make salaries add up. Kwame was an expiring contract. That deal wasn't really a "Stern" move, though I'm sure Jerry West being in charge of Memphis helped, since he probably tried harder to dump Pau onto the Lakers than any other team. To this day, I have no clue why they were so intent on dumping Pau, but it was known around the league they wanted to trade him. Probably because they got swept the only times they made the postseason.

In addition, its not like the Lakers were some powerhouse before the trade. In 04-05 they didn't make the playoffs, and in 05-06 and 06-07 they were bounced in the first round. Acquiring Pau took them to the top, but at the time it wasn't really a case of the "rich getting richer" or anything like that. Plus they pulled the trade right after Bynum went down.

All that said, fuck LA

[temujin]

Yeap, a 33 years old Gasol with chronic tendinitis at both knees and a gun-less Javaris Critterton (resigned for the occasion) for Kevin Love and 2 first rounders.
Makes perfect sense, Stern-wise.

To be "honest", they could also explore Portland for Aldridge/Batum for Gasol.

[Fireball]

To be "honest", they could also explore Portland for Aldridge/Batum for Gasol.

Thats just evil ... plain and simple

[spurraider21]

To be "honest", they could also explore Portland for Aldridge/Batum for Gasol.
No. Aldridge is cheaper, younger, healthier, and at this point better than Gasol and has one more year on his contract. There is absolutely zero incentive for the Blazers to go through with that. Batum is also much younger and was just resigned for 11 mil a year. I doubt a team like Portland is going to try to add to its payroll, especially with an injured player past his prime.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Admiralfats nailed it. It's not the offense, it's the defense. The NBA's "all defensive" and "DPOY" have been exposed as a joke. You've got Bryant, Howard, and MWP, all who have received these awards. Yet their defense as a team is ATROCIOUS. Gasol and Nash are actually going to make this worse.

[spurspokesman]

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[spurspokesman]

Yeap, a 33 years old Gasol with chronic tendinitis at both knees and a gun-less Javaris Critterton (resigned for the occasion) for Kevin Love and 2 first rounders.
Makes perfect sense, Stern-wise.

To be "honest", they could also explore Portland for Aldridge/Batum for Gasol. Not gonna happen. Portland laughs them off the phone.

[Mr. Body]

To be honest, Memphis was trying to dump Gasol (though I'm really not sure why). In return they got some prospects (including Marc Gasol (boom) and Javaris Crittenton (now a 1st round bust)), and they got Kwame Brown just to make salaries add up. Kwame was an expiring contract. That deal wasn't really a "Stern" move, though I'm sure Jerry West being in charge of Memphis helped, since he probably tried harder to dump Pau onto the Lakers than any other team. To this day, I have no clue why they were so intent on dumping Pau, but it was known around the league they wanted to trade him. Probably because they got swept the only times they made the postseason.

In addition, its not like the Lakers were some powerhouse before the trade. In 04-05 they didn't make the playoffs, and in 05-06 and 06-07 they were bounced in the first round. Acquiring Pau took them to the top, but at the time it wasn't really a case of the "rich getting richer" or anything like that. Plus they pulled the trade right after Bynum went down.

All that said, fuck LA

That was one of the biggest bullshit trades in living memory, and was absolutely a Jerry West special. He packaged up one of the top big men in the league, a guy who was consistenly leading Memphis into the playoffs and was an All-Star, and sent him off to his old and beloved team for absolute scraps. Memphis might have been trying to trade him, but it wasn't an utterly urgent thing. And that Marc Gasol turned out to be decent is completely beside the point. He was a 2nd rounder throw in for the trade, and every single piece was crap.

It was a total snow job and enabled a listing Lakers team/franchise, who were staring at the possibility of a revolting Kobe Bryant, not only to right the ship, but win another couple of championships. You don't think they wouldn't have won without Gasol?

Just ridiculous. And completely smears West's reputation in my eyes. Whether Stern was involved or not - I don't think he had to be.

[TampaDude]

That was one of the biggest bullshit trades in living memory, and was absolutely a Jerry West special. He packaged up one of the top big men in the league, a guy who was consistenly leading Memphis into the playoffs and was an All-Star, and sent him off to his old and beloved team for absolute scraps. Memphis might have been trying to trade him, but it wasn't an utterly urgent thing. And that Marc Gasol turned out to be decent is completely beside the point. He was a 2nd rounder throw in for the trade, and every single piece was crap.

It was a total snow job and enabled a listing Lakers team/franchise, who were staring at the possibility of a revolting Kobe Bryant, not only to right the ship, but win another couple of championships. You don't think they wouldn't have won without Gasol?

Just ridiculous. And completely smears West's reputation in my eyes. Whether Stern was involved or not - I don't think he had to be.

Karma's a bitch, ain't it? :lol

[Obstructed_View]

To be honest, Memphis was trying to dump Gasol (though I'm really not sure why). In return they got some prospects (including Marc Gasol (boom) and Javaris Crittenton (now a 1st round bust)), and they got Kwame Brown just to make salaries add up. Kwame was an expiring contract. That deal wasn't really a "Stern" move, though I'm sure Jerry West being in charge of Memphis helped, since he probably tried harder to dump Pau onto the Lakers than any other team. To this day, I have no clue why they were so intent on dumping Pau, but it was known around the league they wanted to trade him. Probably because they got swept the only times they made the postseason.

In addition, its not like the Lakers were some powerhouse before the trade. In 04-05 they didn't make the playoffs, and in 05-06 and 06-07 they were bounced in the first round. Acquiring Pau took them to the top, but at the time it wasn't really a case of the "rich getting richer" or anything like that. Plus they pulled the trade right after Bynum went down.

All that said, fuck LA

They were trying to sell the team, and it had something to do with getting a big contract off the books.

[biskvito]

lol lakers
lol espn
lol journalists after the game having to dissect the whole lakers drama in what seemed to me like the longest minutes ever aired on tv... what a soul crushing job

[Johnsyounger]

I was born and raised in San Antonio, but live in Los Angeles, so i watch most of the Laker games(mainly because i want to see em lose their asses). I honestly think they may miss the playoffs. Kobe's older, Dwight isn't dominant, Pau is all done, Metta is a joke, Nash who knows???, and the bench is the worst ever. I dont think these guys can fit into Mike's system, and he only knows how to coach one way. Look for the Lakers to make another BIG trade. Laker land seems to think Ryan Anderson can save them. What a joke.. This team is in real trouble, like Kwame and Smush trouble, and I like it.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

The Lakers are 1-10 when Kobe scores over 30 #noIinteam

[Mr. Body]

They were trying to sell the team, and it had something to do with getting a big contract off the books.

So dump by far their only franchise player for tiddly-winks? That might be the excuse West ran out, but that don't make no goddamn sense.

[temujin]

Not gonna happen. Portland laughs them off the phone.

Memphis didn't laugh when they called with Kwame/Critterton for Gasol.

[temujin]

Thats just evil ... plain and simple

It's called business.
Those two guys could make a big market team competitive again.

[temujin]

No. Aldridge is cheaper, younger, healthier, and at this point better than Gasol and has one more year on his contract. There is absolutely zero incentive for the Blazers to go through with that. Batum is also much younger and was just resigned for 11 mil a year. I doubt a team like Portland is going to try to add to its payroll, especially with an injured player past his prime.

Obviously this would make sense, but with the LAL you never know..

[itzsoweezee]

Memphis didn't laugh when they called with Kwame/Critterton for Gasol.

Portland and Portlanders absolutely HATE the Lakers. No way in hell they'd do it.

[Obstructed_View]

So dump by far their only franchise player for tiddly-winks? That might be the excuse West ran out, but that don't make no goddamn sense.

Jerry West had nothing to do with it. It was the people who wanted to sell the team. Removing a big, long-term contract made them money. They didn't give a shit about the prospects of the team at that point. Grizzlies fans should thank their personal God that they ended up with Marc Gasol.

[Drom John]

The Lakers might not be losing because Kobe scores 30+. It could be Kobe scores 30+ because the Lakers are losing. That was the case with Wes Unseld. Unseld didn't score 10+ unless the Bullets were behind in the 4th and the offense was stagnant.

OTOH, Unseld > Bryant.

[polandprzem]

Well Unseld was not a scorer

[Drom John]

Well Unseld was not a scorer

"Unseld didn't score 10+ unless the Bullets were behind in the 4th and the offense was stagnant."

We agree.

[polandprzem]

"Unseld didn't score 10+ unless the Bullets were behind in the 4th and the offense was stagnant."

We agree.

So Unseld could score 30+ if Bullets were a lousy team?


The thing for Kobe is that he makes the offense stagnant not the other way. In triangles the ball was moving much more and he was a part of the offense _LA were much more effective.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

It's funny how ESPN is doing all these interviews with Kobe trying to maintain all this "drama" bullshit. It's entertaining to see the Lakers lose every other game though. A loss against the Knicks tonight for sure.