Shooting at Conn Elementary, 20 reported dead

[DMC]

2 adults shot dead, witness says (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=hp_t1)


Parent: Three adults ran toward gunfire, 2 were slain
Shooter also dead at Connecticut school
Shooting happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown BLOG (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/)







CNN

[Fpoonsie]

I don't even...wow.

[oh crap]

now reporting 27 killed, 18 being children... what the fuck?

[JudynTX]

The body count is much higher. :(

[JoeChalupa]

What the...? Went from 2 to over 20!?!?

[Bill_Brasky]

:( this is really bad.

[thunderup]

Wow.

[thunderup]

Seriously, who does shit like this?

[oh crap]

this is so fucked up

[JoeChalupa]

I wonder how this idiot was armed. More fodder for Costas.

[thunderup]

An entire Kindergarten class?! :(

[Viva Las Espuelas]

More fodder for Costas.
Uh, no.

[Kori Ellis]

They said that it's over 25 dead with a group of kids still unaccounted for. So it's probably going to be even higher.

I know someone whose son goes to school there -- thankfully, he's safe.

[thunderup]

20 year old man connected to the school itself used a .22 Caliber rifle.

UPDATE

[TE]

Sickening that people like this exist tbh.

[Spurs da champs]

Kindergartners were the victims?

This shit is just getting worse & worse.

[leemajors]

20 year old man connected to the school itself used a .22 Caliber rifle.

UPDATE

they found two 9 mm's on the scene too

[JudynTX]

Shooter was the father of a student. Possibly killed everyone in his child's kindergarten class including his own child over a domestic dispute.

[Kori Ellis]

Kindergartners were the victims?

This shit is just getting worse & worse.

Yes. He was armed with 4 guns, wearing a bullproof vest, and shot an entire kindergarten class. Plus the principal, school psychologist and others.

[Medvedenko]

God Bless the USA

On a serious note, this is deplorable and a new low for gun violence.

[oh crap]

Shooter was the father of a student. Possibly killed everyone in his child's kindergarten class including his own child over a domestic dispute.

where is this being reported? I haven't heard this yet.

[Medvedenko]

MSN

[JudynTX]

where is this being reported? I haven't heard this yet.

It's all over twitter.

[Spurs da champs]

Yes. He was armed with 4 guns, wearing a bullproof vest, and shot an entire kindergarten class. Plus the principal, school psychologist and others.

Wow, all that 4 children!?...& he was 20 years old on top of that!

[Leetonidas]

exactly why kids shouldnt have kids. eerie, i was just studying for my psyche final and reading over the mass shootings in school and such a little while ago, fuckin shitty

[Ditty]

Wow this is horrible, heard they were killed execution style. This gives me chills and beyond sickening.

[Spurs da champs]

exactly why kids shouldnt have kids.

That's beside the point, he went all commando for a kindergarten class, he had the intent of a slaughter & that was the result.

This should be the tipping point for some sort of gun control.

[Leetonidas]

guys like this should be punished by being put into a room with all the parents of the children he murdered and lettin them go to work on him, too bad the pussy killed himself, like always

[thunderup]

too bad the pussy killed himself, like always

People that commit these types of things are just that: pussies.

[pawe]

Why does this stuff continue to happen? What pushes people to do this specially this one where it involved kids?
Sad day for America.
Hope the family of the victims get through this.

[Fpoonsie]

So, apparently, this type of gun was found on-scene. Why the FUCK is something like this street legal?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GPyXOCAAAgjrG.jpg:large

[Robz4000]

My God. Thoughts go out to all the victims and families involved. What sick shit.

[GoodOdor]

So, apparently, this type of gun was found on-scene. Why the FUCK is something like this street legal?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GPyXOCAAAgjrG.jpg:large

You leftist libtard, why are you trying to take away people's second amendment rights to have full-auto
assualt rifles?:cry this is what the funding fathers intended! god bleess USA!:cry

[Lincoln]

So, apparently, this type of gun was found on-scene. Why the FUCK is something like this street legal?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GPyXOCAAAgjrG.jpg:large

They need a weapon that size and caliber to hunt deer!

[Lincoln]

You leftist libtard, why are you trying to take away people's second amendment rights to have full-auto
assualt rifles?:cry this is what the funding fathers intended! god bleess USA!:cry

:cry

[timvp]

They need to pump a couple more rounds into that dude to make sure he's gone, tbh.

[Fpoonsie]

They need a weapon that size and caliber to hunt deer!

Must be tough as hell field-dressing a deer, what w/ their hides being all Kevlar and shit nowadays.

[cantthinkofanything]

So, apparently, this type of gun was found on-scene. Why the FUCK is something like this street legal?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GPyXOCAAAgjrG.jpg:large

I don't want to get involved in a gun debate here but it's not really that particular gun itself...it's not any more lethal than a hunting rifle. It's the capacity of the magazine.

[cantthinkofanything]

They need a weapon that size and caliber to hunt deer!

Are you being serious? It looks like a .223 which isn't an exceptionally large caliber when hunting deer.

[Fpoonsie]

I don't want to get involved in a gun debate here but it's not really that particular gun itself...it's not any more lethal than a hunting rifle. It's the capacity of the magazine.

No, but it's this type of gun, and all that extra nonsense (extended mag clip, sight, etc) is all-too-easily attained.

[Spurs da champs]

I don't want to get involved in a gun debate here but it's not really that particular gun itself...it's not any more lethal than a hunting rifle. It's the capacity of the magazine.

Which is part of the gun's design & function.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You leftist libtard, why are you trying to take away people's second amendment rights to have full-auto
assualt rifles?:cry this is what the funding fathers intended! god bleess USA!:cry

Those classless liberals are gonna use dead kids as a tool to take away our guns! Classless assholes!

We're a lot more classy for using dead kids to promote our agenda and bring up gun rights before liberals ever do.

Now, let's sanctimoniously pretend we care about all those kids while we use our warped logic to explain why gun rights would have prevented this!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I don't want to get involved in a gun debate here but it's not really that particular gun itself...it's not any more lethal than a hunting rifle. It's the capacity of the magazine.

Are hunting rifles fully automatic?

[jeebus]

And in less than 40 posts, this thread has been derailed. Nicely done.

[Leetonidas]

who cares what kind of gun it was, the dude could've bought a piece of shit .22 and killed all those children just the same

[Two10Whitey]

exactly why kids shouldnt have kids. eerie, i was just studying for my psyche final and reading over the mass shootings in school and such a little while ago, fuckin shitty

Don't generalize. I found out about the shooting just a little while ago while participating in an event in my daughter's kindergarten class. I'm 24 years old as well. You act like older folks can't flip out and do some stupid shit.

[pawe]

So, apparently, this type of gun was found on-scene. Why the FUCK is something like this street legal?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-GPyXOCAAAgjrG.jpg:large

Great job focusing on the gun on this tragedy instead of the actual problem of how to deal with the evil, crazy people who does these things.
Can we just avoid the gun politics because everyone knows the argument will not end as both sides will always have a retort to keep it going forever.

[Leetonidas]

we're gonna have to start planting marshalls in classes like they do on planes. gonna be hard to find ones that look like they're 10 though

[thunderup]

And in less than 40 posts, this thread has been derailed. Nicely done.
Another thread gone political by the usual fucktards on this site. One reason why I hardly enter into the political forum.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

who cares what kind of gun it was, the dude could've bought a piece of shit .22 and killed all those children just the same

:lmao really, mass shootings are "just the same" if the rifle isn't fully automatic?

News to me.

[cantthinkofanything]

Are hunting rifles fully automatic?

no. but neither is an AR-15.
Has it come out that the shooter was using a full auto?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Great job focusing on the gun on this tragedy instead of the actual problem of how to deal with the evil, crazy people who does these things.
Can we just avoid the gun politics because everyone knows the argument will not end as both sides will always have a retort to keep it going forever.

Guns don't kill people! People kill people!

[Fpoonsie]

Great job focusing on the gun on this tragedy instead of the actual problem of how to deal with the evil, crazy people who does these things.
Can we just avoid the gun politics because everyone knows the argument will not end as both sides will always have a retort to keep it going forever.

The fact that it's more difficult to get access to free mental healthcare than to get Call of Duty'd up is appalling. Good point.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Has it come out that the shooter was using a full auto?

Yes.

[cantthinkofanything]

Great job focusing on the gun on this tragedy instead of the actual problem of how to deal with the evil, crazy people who does these things.
Can we just avoid the gun politics because everyone knows the argument will not end as both sides will always have a retort to keep it going forever.

sorry...I agree...

[thunderup]

Ryan Lanza, 24 year old

[pawe]

.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The fact that it's more difficult to get access to free mental healthcare than to get Call of Duty'd up is appalling. Good point.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxsyufYi61qfmgozo1_500.gif

[thunderup]

this is the shooter:
https://www.facebook.com/rlanza
Content unavailable

That was fast.

[Clipper Nation]

This should be the tipping point for some sort of gun control.

Connecticut already has extremely strict gun control laws, and frankly, even if we had a federal gun ban, sickos like that guy would just get their guns illegally or use a different weapon...

[Spurs da champs]

Guns don't kill people! People kill people!
That shit excuse has been wearing very thin & apparently the shooter was 24 years old.

[GoodOdor]

Great job focusing on the gun on this tragedy instead of the actual problem of how to deal with the evil, crazy people who does these things.
Can we just avoid the gun politics because everyone knows the argument will not end as both sides will always have a retort to keep it going forever.

He could have killed those 30+ people with a knife just as easily as with a full semi auto!:cry

[Leetonidas]

Don't generalize. I found out about the shooting just a little while ago while participating in an event in my daughter's kindergarten class. I'm 24 years old as well. You act like older folks can't flip out and do some stupid shit.

Oh yeah, it's generally a great idea for kids to have kids. :rolleyes quit getting so caught up and butthurt in the langauge, it was not directed at a slight towards you. im 22 myself. my point is that kids' emotions are very volatile, you add a child into that while probably having to drop out of school at 15 (btw you're 24, hes 20, he impregnated his baby mama when he was probably 15 and you were probably 19, so big difference) to take care of the kid and the baby mama who you are in conflict with and stupid shit happens. usually not his stupid but you get the idea. obviously not all young parents are retards but retarded behavior is prevalent among teens with parents, this is not really disputable

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He could have killed those 30+ people with a knife just as easily as with a full semi auto!:cry

:lmao

[Fpoonsie]

this is the shooter:
https://www.facebook.com/rlanza

Oh, cool. Yeah, let's all visit his page. I can't think of a better way to honor tha dead than by giving the shooter some notoriety.

[Leetonidas]

btw when i read initially it said he was 20 not 24, so my bad on that

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

.

[Spurs da champs]

Connecticut already has extremely strict gun control laws, and frankly, even if we had a federal gun ban, sickos like that guy would just get their guns illegally or use a different weapon...

A draconian style ban on these assault weapons is necessary & instead of wasting money on the drug war, why not the illegal weapons trade!?

Why combat style weapons all together aren't banned is beyond me!

[DesignatedT]

killed his mom then shot up an elementary school? what a fucking piece of shit.

[Leetonidas]

looks more like a serial rapist, wouldnt have guessed mass-murderer

[Fpoonsie]

What a great, giant pic of that soulless, maniacal faggot. Totes excited that I have a face to attach to the tragedy. Thanks, pawe.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Connecticut already has extremely strict gun control laws, and frankly, even if we had a federal gun ban, sickos like that guy would just get their guns illegally or use a different weapon...

Either the guy did get the gun illegally, or Connecticut's gun laws aren't strict at all. If strict gun laws mean full automatic rifles with all of those accessories are legal, I'd hate to see what unstrict gun laws are.

[krispinwah]

this is the shooter:
https://www.facebook.com/rlanza

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/150996_10100120293003893_1030729465_n.jpg
Added as a friend.

[krispinwah]

lol gun laws
lol it's totally working in Chicago!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

A draconian style ban on these assault weapons is necessary & instead of wasting money on the drug war, why not the illegal weapons trade!?

Why combat style weapons all together aren't banned is beyond me!

Drugs are bad, but guns are good! #Teaparty #GOP

[thunderup]

Here are pictures of the guy:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/150996_10100120293003893_1030729465_n.jpghttps://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481679_10100105078169543_40076527_n.jpg



Here he is in 2007:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/65_514905952423_4067_n.jpg

what a fucking piece of shit.

[Clipper Nation]

A draconian style ban on these assault weapons is necessary & instead of wasting money on the drug war, why not the illegal weapons trade!?

Because it'd be just as big a waste of time and money as the War on Drugs and Prohibition have been, while solving nothing...

The illegal black market for guns would only grow as a result of a draconian gun ban...

[DesignatedT]

STFU with the gun control shit. Fuckin retaded. Not like any of our opinions fuckin matter anyway. Waste of time arguing over this shit.

[pawe]

The fact that it's more difficult to get access to free mental healthcare than to get Call of Duty'd up is appalling. Good point.


Are you saying it's better to have 1 child killed by a knife/single shot handgun vs 20 children dying from a semi auto rifle?
Crazy is crazy, if they want to harm people, they will and there's no stopping that.

What bothers me is not the kinds of guns that are easily acquired by civilians but the total disregard for life by the people today.
Im kinda sad for my son's future TBH.

[Clipper Nation]

STFU with the gun control shit. Fuckin retaded. Not like any of our opinions fuckin matter anyway. Waste of time arguing over this shit.

You know nobody's going to stop, because the gun-grabbers have to politicize every gun crime known to man...

[Spurs da champs]

Dumb asses ignoring what caused these innocent children's deaths to begin with!

[thunderup]

STFU with the gun control shit. Fuckin retaded. Not like any of our opinions fuckin matter anyway. Waste of time arguing over this shit.
Exactly. Instead of focusing on gun control, we should focus on why an individual would do such a thing.

[Fpoonsie]

Are you saying it's better to have 1 child killed by a knife/single shot handgun vs 20 children dying from a semi auto rifle?


Yes. I'd say that's almost 20 times better.

[DesignatedT]

Reports that he was the son of the Kindergarten teacher now...?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You know nobody's going to stop, because the gun-grabbers have to politicize every gun crime known to man...

:lol right, because the Tea Baggers and gun lovers don't politicize these shootings either.

[thunderup]

Reports that he was the son of the Kindergarten teacher now...?
Yeah, sick shit.

[Clipper Nation]

Either the guy did get the gun illegally, or Connecticut's gun laws aren't strict at all. If strict gun laws mean full automatic rifles with all of those accessories are legal, I'd hate to see what unstrict gun laws are.

Connecticut has a full-out assault weapons ban, so the killer must have gotten his gun illegally.... if he wasn't going to follow state law, I'd say it's probably unlikely he would have followed a federal anti-gun law either...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I guess this is the part where gun lovers sanctimoniously pretend to feel sorry for the victims before explaining how gun control is what led to the crime while standing on their moral soapbox about liberals politicizing the tragedy.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol right, because the Tea Baggers and gun lovers don't politicize these shootings either.

I give those people just as little credence as I do the gun-grabbers...

I don't own a gun, nor will I ever, but I still argue in favor of gun rights only because there are plenty of responsible gun owners in this country that shouldn't be punished for the actions of criminals, and because it's been proven over and over again that draconian gun bans only encourage more gun crime...

[pawe]

Yes. I'd say that's almost 20 times better.

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.
You're a perfect example of somebody who does not respect human life anymore.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

if he wasn't going to follow state law, I'd say it's probably unlikely he would have followed a federal anti-gun law either...

State rights!!!

[That's Funked Up]

Hope those parents kept their gift receipts

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.

Those evil people who get abortions are NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO better than this guy!

[GoodOdor]

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.
You're a perfect example of somebody who does not respect human life anymore.

You went full retard.

[Kori Ellis]

Looks like he killed his own parents too.. his dad at home and his mom at the school (she worked there).

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I give those people just as little credence as I do the gun-grabbers...

I don't own a gun, nor will I ever, but I still argue in favor of gun rights only because there are plenty of responsible gun owners in this country that shouldn't be punished for the actions of criminals, and because it's been proven over and over again that draconian gun bans only encourage more gun crime...
I think we should have gun rights too, but there should be a very thorough test done. It shouldn't be harder to get a driver's license than it is to legally own a gun.

[Clipper Nation]

You went full retard.

No he didn't, his point is that killing is wrong whether it's 1 victim or 20... if that's "full retard" to you, seek help...

[thunderup]

Looks like he killed his own parents too.. his dad at home and his mom at the school (she worked there).
The mother was the teacher?

[thunderup]

No he didn't, his point is that killing is wrong whether it's 1 victim or 20... if that's "full retard" to you, seek help...
Seriously.

[O.J. Simpson]

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.
You're a perfect example of somebody who does not respect human life anymore.

Holy fuck did that Pacquiao knockout fuck up your brain too?

[Fpoonsie]

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.


Ok. You'd rather 20 died than 1. Got it.

And yet somehow I don't have any regard for human life.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Holy fuck did that Pacquiao knockout fuck up your brain too?

:lmao

[thunderup]

Mother of the shooter dead.

[jeebus]

The mother was the teacher?
apparently

[O.J. Simpson]

Nobody said killing 1 child was right, that's a strawman. Killing 20 children is worse than killing 1, this is not up for debate.

[Fpoonsie]

I think we should have gun rights too, but there should be a very thorough test done. It shouldn't be harder to get a driver's license than it is to legally own a gun.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ww20nTtK1rwqg0bo1_500.gif

[Lincoln]

Hey guys, that fb profile you posted wasn't him, read his statuses :lmao :lmao

http://www.mediaite.com/online/is-this-connecticut-school-shooter-ryan-lanzas-facebook/

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Nobody said killing 1 child was right, that's a strawman. Killing 20 children is worse than killing 1, this is not up for debate.

It's up for debate if you think fully automatic weapons aren the same thing as deer hunting rifles :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

No he didn't, his point is that killing is wrong whether it's 1 victim or 20... if that's "full retard" to you, seek help...

well he didn't do a very good job making the point by asking the question, "is is better?"

[O.J. Simpson]

It's up for debate if you think fully automatic weapons aren the same thing as deer hunting rifles :lol

:cry No! deer hunting rifles pack more of a punch! :cry

[GoodOdor]

No he didn't, his point is that killing is wrong whether it's 1 victim or 20... if that's "full retard" to you, seek help...

Which one is worse, 1 dead kid or 20?

If you choose the first option, you belong with people like WC/Avante.

[TDMVPDPOY]

how come most of the killings are done by white ppl?


the only sort of capital punishment for mass killings is to whipe out the whole family lineage when darwinism is not moving fast enough....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Killing one person is better than killing 20 people. No substanceless rhetoric like, ":crykilling is bad regardless:cry:" changes that. No one is arguing that killing one person isn't bad.

My god you gun lovers are stupid.

[Kori Ellis]

They confirmed he killed his father at home in NJ before going to the school. (And yes, he killed his mother -- the teacher of the kindergarteners.)

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:cry No! deer hunting rifles pack more of a punch! :cry

:cryIf gun laws make it so one person dies instead of 20 people then they're useless, it's all the same either way:cry

[DesignatedT]

Hey guys, that fb profile you posted wasn't him, read his statuses :lmao :lmao

http://www.mediaite.com/online/is-this-connecticut-school-shooter-ryan-lanzas-facebook/

Is this real? wtf

[Clipper Nation]

Hey guys, that fb profile you posted wasn't him, read his statuses :lmao :lmao

http://www.mediaite.com/online/is-this-connecticut-school-shooter-ryan-lanzas-facebook/

Wow, it must suck to be that guy.... if I were him, I'd be calling a lawyer real quick and suing every media outlet running my photo for a shitload of money...

[Kori Ellis]

So coincidentally there are two Ryan Lanza's from NJ with roots in Newtown, CT?

[baseline bum]

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.
You're a perfect example of somebody who does not respect human life anymore.

:cry So this was as bad as the holocausts of the jews in WWII, the blacks in colonial America, the indians? :cry

[pawe]

Ok. You'd rather 20 died than 1. Got it.

And yet somehow I don't have any regard for human life.

I'd rather no one die but that is impossible because for some reason, the world is spewing out "crazies" like crazy.
Doesn't matter if it's a semi auto rifle like what you're complaining about or a knife.

Instead of our society spending time, money and energy on banning guns or certain types of guns, I'd rather them/us focus on why people are losing grasp of the value of life. Like is it the way we train our children now? Or is it because we are slowly losing our sense to belong to the world?
I just hope somebody figures it out...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Wow, it must suck to be that guy.... if I were him, I'd be calling a lawyer real quick and suing every media outlet running my photo for a shitload of money...

Imagine the messages that poor guy is getting on facebook :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'd rather no one die but that is impossible because for some reason, the world is spewing out "crazies" like crazy.
Doesn't matter if it's a semi auto rifle like what you're complaining about or a knife.

Instead of our society spending time, money and energy on banning guns or certain types of guns, I'd rather them/us focus on why people are losing grasp of the value of life. Like is it the way we train our children now? Or is it because we are slowly losing our sense to belong to the world?
I just hope somebody figures it out...

:lmao 1 person dies, 20 people die, it's all the same in your book :lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Oh great, the "people are losing the value of life" bullshit.

Here comes the part where this shooting gets blamed on atheists and a lack of Christian values :lmao

[O.J. Simpson]

Is it possible to suffer from 'Mad Dog Disease'? Because this is what pawe has.

[baseline bum]

:lmao 1 person dies, 20 people die, it's all the same in your book :lmao

1, 20, 2000000, same shit son

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

1, 20, 2000000, same shit son

Someone getting an abortion is basically the same as a nuclear holocaust, so it's pointless to regulate nuclear weapons :lmao

[baseline bum]

Oh great, the "people are losing the value of life" bullshit.

Here comes the part where this shooting gets blamed on atheists and a lack of Christian values :lmao

:cry Prayer in school would have saved the shooter :cry
:cry He would have been killing muslims instead :cry

[O.J. Simpson]

Someone getting an abortion is basically the same as a nuclear holocaust, so it's pointless to regulate nuclear weapons :lmao

:lol

[baseline bum]

Maybe an insensitive question, but I don't get the sentiment about it being particularly bad because everyone was young. Why is it treated worse for 20 kindergartners to get shot instead of 30 college students like at Va Tech?

[jeebus]

Imagine the messages that poor guy is getting on facebook :lol
:lmao I was reading some of the shares on there (there were like 15000) and everyone was saying "this is the piece of shit that blah blah blah"

[pawe]

Oh great, the "people are losing the value of life" bullshit.

Here comes the part where this shooting gets blamed on atheists and a lack of Christian values :lmao

Where did I imply religion has to do something with it?
Oh ok I get it now, go on with your trolling and derail the thread by using religion.

[O.J. Simpson]

:lol Obsessed with the value of life but fighting tooth and nail to keep M16s with ACOG sights, grenade launchers and mag extenders.

[lefty]

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The former Quebec cardiologist who was found not criminally responsible for killing his children was granted conditional release.
A re-evaluation session was held today at Montreal's Pinel Institute. The Mental Health Assessment Commission said Guy Turcotte has made enough progress to be released.
He will, however, continue to see a psychotherapist.
He was found not criminally responsible 18 months ago for killing his two children in 2009.
Turcotte must not have contact with his former wife, Isabelle Gaston, or her family.
Unless Turcotte fails to keep the peace and adhere to his conditions, his case will not be reviewed for another year.
Turcotte will need to have his new address approved by authorities.
Former wife said she expected a releaseGaston said she felt "powerless" when facing the justice system in this case.
"The system knows this is an injustice, but the system decides not to speak. So I lose confidence in it," she said.
Gaston said she had read Supreme Court documents of similar cases and expected Turcotte to be released without conditions. She said today's decision was "more logical."
She believes he should be kept at the Pinel Institute because of the closer supervision.
She said she would keep fighting to make improvements to the way such cases are handled.
"I hope so much for those changes because for me, it's a message that you can kill your wife because you're sad, you can kill your children because you are upset, and after that say that you were not all there," she said.
Psychiatrist says Turcotte is not as defensive as beforeIn a report summarizing his findings, Pierre Rochette, the psychiatrist overseeing Turcotte's care at the institute, told the Mental Health Assessment Commission that the patient has shown progress in his treatment.
The commission, a division of Quebec's administrative tribunal, is in charge of reviewing the mental state of those found not criminally responsible of a crime and decide whether the person poses a risk to public safety.
Rochette said that Turcotte is less defensive than when he first arrived at the institution.
The psychiatrist made several recommendations to the commission, including the possibility that the patient be released into the care of outpatient services at a Montreal hospital, rather than remain detained at the Pinel Institute.
Turcotte told the hearing that his anger and anxiety are under control and he would like to live a normal life.
Rochette said earlier today he would not object to the release of Turcotte with conditions attached.
Jury found Turcotte not criminally responsibleIn July 2011, a jury found Turcotte, who admitted to stabbing his two children to death, not criminally responsible because of a mental disorder.
The judge had instructed jurors that acquittal was not an option, as Turcotte admitted he stabbed his children (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/04/18/turcotte-murder-trial-opens.html), Anne-Sophie, 3, and Olivier, 5, in February 2009, in a rented home north of Montreal.
The 39-year-old physician was charged with first-degree murder, but always denied intent, and the defence focused on his state of mind at the time of the killings.





Que. doctor admits to killing his children Jury to consider mental state as cardiologist pleads not guilty CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/credit.html) Posted: Apr 18, 2011 1:17 PM ET Last Updated: Apr 18, 2011 9:37 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2011/04/18/li-620-guy-turcotte.jpg A court sketch shows cardiologist Guy Turcotte, who faces two first-degree murder charges. (Radio-Canada)









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A Quebec cardiologist charged with two counts of first-degree murder admits he stabbed his two children in 2009, but claims it wasn't a premeditated act.
Guy Turcotte's defence team made the admission Monday, at the cardiologist's double murder trial in Saint-Jérôme.
In a statement filed by his defence lawyer Pierre Poupart, Turcotte admits he committed an illegal act and caused the death of his two children.
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2011/04/18/si-turcotte-children-220.jpgOlivier (5) and Anne-Sophie (3) were stabbed to death by their father, he admits. (CBC) But Turcotte plans to fight the claim that the killings were premeditated.
Poupart told the jurors that they will have to determine Turcotte's state of mind at the time of the crimes, and whether he knew what he was doing.
Turcotte's children — five-year-old Olivier and three-year-old Anne-Sophie — were found stabbed to death (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2009/02/23/death-children.html) on Feb. 21, 2009, inside a house their father rented in the Laurentians.
Turcotte was also found in the house, under a bed, after he ingested windshield washer fluid.
He was charged and found fit to stand trial at a preliminary hearing last year (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2010/02/22/quebec-piedmont-murder-preliminary-hearing.html).
Failed marriage on doctor's mind Turcotte sobbed in court as Crown prosecutor Claudia Carbonneau outlined the details of the double slaying.
A crime scene technician gave jurors a view inside the home: two knives, two bloodstained beds, a near-empty windshield washer container in a bathroom and vomit on the floors.
Turcotte's mother Margaret Fournier testified Monday about the last phone conversation she had with her son before the children were killed.
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2009/02/24/mtl-guy-turcotte-0224.jpgTurcotte, a cardiologist, faces two first-degree murder charges. (Canadian Press) Turcotte lamented his failed marriage to Isabelle Gaston, from whom he had separated a month earlier.
Fournier said her son sounded depressed and told her Gaston was cheating on him.
"It has been going on for weeks," Fournier quoted her son as saying. She said he told her "it was happening in my house, in my bed."
His mother advised him to look forward, but her son didn't seem to hear her. But then he said something that struck Fournier as out of character.
"I love you, tell Dad I love him," Fournier recounted, remembering her son repeating those words over and over during the hour-long chat.
"When I heard that discourse, I was afraid he was about to take his own life," she said.
Fearful he'd been drinking, Fournier wanted to drive to her son's that night, but her husband said to wait.
Fournier arrived the next day to find no grandchildren in sight, the doors locked and the shades drawn at the single-family dwelling in an isolated rural neighbourhood in Piedmont.
"Maybe my husband still had hope [things were OK], but I had no hope at all," she testified.
Fournier's chilling 911 call pleading with police to hurry to the rented home was played in court late Monday, provoking more sobs from Turcotte.
If found guilty, he could face life in prison.
About 30 witnesses are expected to testify at the trial, including police, ambulance technicians and family.
Gaston, a doctor herself, is also expected to take the stand.
The trial is scheduled to last between six and eight weeks.

[tlongII]

Just got out of a meeting and saw this. Horrible. :( We just had a couple of people get killed here a couple of days ago and this is even worse. Unreal.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Where did I imply religion has to do something with it?
Oh ok I get it now, go on with your trolling and derail the thread by using religion.
:lmao 1 person dead = 20 people dead

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol Obsessed with the value of life but fighting tooth and nail to keep M16s with ACOG sights, grenade launchers and mag extenders.

:lmao

[O.J. Simpson]

:lmao 1 person dead = 20 people dead

Hypothetically speaking, if I did it, I committed the Holocaust when I killed Ronald Goldman.

[Kori Ellis]

Police are also questioning another person in connection with the shooting. Witnesses told the Connecticut Post that a handcuffed man, dressed in camouflage, was led out of a nearby woods by officers. The individual is Lanza's younger brother, according to the Associated Press.

[DesignatedT]

20 year old Adam Lanza is the shooter. 24 year old Ryan Lanza is his brother and in custody.

[jeebus]

lol social media clusterfuck

[TheSanityAnnex]

This is why teachers with their CCW's should be allowed to carry on campus. Glad I picked up another AR and a handful of lowers before the election, this is more ammo for the anti-gun pussies and their quest to strip us of our 2nd amendment rights.

[SA210]

Horrible sad news. Just horrible, horrible, horrible. Fkn horrible.

Crazy though, The President murders over 200 little children himself, and thousands more innocents overseas for no reason with his current illegal drone program, but gives a speech on how killing 20 kids is wrong, and the people eat it up. I wish we cared about ALL children. smh

[AussieFanKurt]

RIP to all those involved bar the shooter. Such fucked up news to wake up to. Is it me or are shootings becoming more common. Regardless, what a fucked up day and my thoughts are with those dead and their families

[AussieFanKurt]

https://www.google.com.au/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=place:0952910&dl=en&hl=en&q=newtown,%20ct%20population


Population of town is 2000, jesus christ.. what a day for that town

[Clipper Nation]

Is it me or are shootings becoming more common.

Like most things, I think it's probably just amplified by the 24-hour media cycle and population growth...

[Creepn]

You muthafuckas must want the guns taken away. Atheist gun loving pretend to be crazy punk ass motherfuckers. Yeah I said it. Fuck all of you and your guns. Fuck the responsible gun owners too because all you need is a weak ass mental snap to turn irresponsible. Fucking bitches.

[Spurminator]

https://www.google.com.au/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=place:0952910&dl=en&hl=en&q=newtown,%20ct%20population


Population of town is 2000, jesus christ.. what a day for that town

I don't think that info is right. This article says 27K. That school is way too big for a town of 2000.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/12/a_look_at_newtown_connecticut.html

[Spurminator]

I'd rather no one die but that is impossible because for some reason, the world is spewing out "crazies" like crazy.
Doesn't matter if it's a semi auto rifle like what you're complaining about or a knife.

Instead of our society spending time, money and energy on banning guns or certain types of guns, I'd rather them/us focus on why people are losing grasp of the value of life. Like is it the way we train our children now? Or is it because we are slowly losing our sense to belong to the world?
I just hope somebody figures it out...


Do you feel like an idiot yet for plastering the wrong guy's photos all over the forum?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You muthafuckas must want the guns taken away. Atheist gun loving pretend to be crazy punk ass motherfuckers. Yeah I said it. Fuck all of you and your guns. Fuck the responsible gun owners too because all you need is a weak ass mental snap to turn irresponsible. Fucking bitches.

Huh? The greater majority of gun lovers in this country are bible thumpers.

[Clipper Nation]

Atheist gun loving pretend to be crazy punk ass motherfuckers.
What does atheism have to do with this?


Fuck the responsible gun owners too because all you need is a weak ass mental snap to turn irresponsible.
Guess we should ban cars, too, because all it takes is a few drinks to turn irresponsible behind the wheel....

[pawe]

Do you feel like an idiot yet for plastering the wrong guy's photos all over the forum?

Yes. Sorry. Saw it on Fox news. I'll remove it now.

[cantthinkofanything]

Yes.

did you just make this up?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Fox news.

:lol they would be the ones to get it wrong.


Hopefully he sues their ass into bankruptcy :lmao

[AussieFanKurt]

I don't think that info is right. This article says 27K. That school is way too big for a town of 2000.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/12/a_look_at_newtown_connecticut.html

Ah ok, my bad

[Leetonidas]

You muthafuckas must want the guns taken away. Atheist gun loving pretend to be crazy punk ass motherfuckers. Yeah I said it. Fuck all of you and your guns. Fuck the responsible gun owners too because all you need is a weak ass mental snap to turn irresponsible. Fucking bitches.
easy, jamal

[Creepn]

What does atheism have to do with this?


Guess we should ban cars, too, because all it takes is a few drinks to turn irresponsible behind the wheel....

Athiest people lack in morals. They believe all this shit is pointless anyway. Go now or go later. Don't matter. No repercussions.

If cars are being used as weapons to drive into schools and malls to run over as many people as possible, ban the cars for all I care.

[O.J. Simpson]

A car's purpose is to drive from point A to point B.

What is the purpose of a citizen owning a M16 with a Silencer, Red Dot Sight, ACOG Scope, and M203 Grenade Launcher, IR, Night Vision and Mag Extensions? Those are some tough deer, tbh.

[AussieFanKurt]

Athiest people lack in morals. They believe all this shit is pointless anyway. Go now or go later. Don't matter. No repercussions.


Why is this not written in blue?

[Leetonidas]

i guarantee i have more morals as antheist than those crack slanging drive by shooters who go to prison and suddenly find god. dumbass

[Spurminator]

Kids, his own mom, his brother... It's like the guy was trying to set the bar for biggest asshole ever.

[O.J. Simpson]

Athiest people lack in morals. They believe all this shit is pointless anyway. Go now or go later. Don't matter. No repercussions.

If cars are being used as weapons to drive into schools and malls to run over as many people as possible, ban the cars for all I care.

Don't turn into a church ass, old man river, coon-ass nigga now.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Athiest people lack in morals. They believe all this shit is pointless anyway. Go now or go later. Don't matter. No repercussions.

If cars are being used as weapons to drive into schools and malls to run over as many people as possible, ban the cars for all I care.

Gun lovers in this country are bible thumpers 9 times out of 10. The connection you're trying to make between atheism and gun lovers is totally illogical.

The hicks in the South who vote for whichever candidate the NRA endorses are all religious.

[Flawless]

Absolutely sickening. RIP to all those who died in this tragic shooting.

[pawe]

:lol they would be the ones to get it wrong.


Hopefully he sues their ass into bankruptcy :lmao

The irony here is I'm one of those people wishing they are friends with him now that he's gonna get paid by major news networks.

[JudynTX]

Why are people laughing about this? You sick bastards.

[SA210]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/9138_232960066837289_516253666_n.png

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

i guarantee i have more morals as antheist than those crack slanging drive by shooters who go to prison and suddenly find god. dumbass
Atheists have more morals than people who require a mythical man in the sky to tell them killing is bad :lol

You're probably the same way, but I figured out killing people was bad without god's assistance.

[DMC]

You guys could let the bodies of the children cool a bit before you launch into your personal agendas regarding gun control. Once that's happened, I will be happy to school all of you on the facts in the matter. Not right now.

[O.J. Simpson]

Atheists have more morals than people who require a mythical man in the sky to tell them killing is bad :lol

You're probably the same way, but I figured out killing people was bad without god's assistance.

Ya but God told me owning slaves was OK and that I could kill my wife if she wasn't a virgin before she met me.

:lol Atheists

[DMC]

btw, those giggling over this likely don't have kids.

[silverblk mystix]

RIP to all the victims.

Personal agendas take over in 5,4,3,...

[Kori Ellis]

Well this explains why Ryan Lanza was on FB saying it wasn't him. It was actually his brother who did the shooting.. Adam.

NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) - A law enforcement official says the suspect in the Connecticut school shootings is 20-year-old Adam Lanza, the son of a teacher at the school where the shootings occurred.

A second law enforcement official says the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, is presumed dead.

The first official says Adam Lanza's older brother, 24-year-old Ryan, of Hoboken, N.J., is being questioned by police. An earlier report from a law enforcement official mistakenly transposed the brothers' first names.

Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the developing criminal investigation.

The first official said Adam Lanza is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

The gunfire at a Connecticut elementary school today may be the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history -- second only to the Virginia Tech massacre.

An official says a gunman killed 26 people, including 18 children. State police aren't confirming those numbers, but they say students and staff were among the victims, and that the gunman is dead.

The killings happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City.

State police say Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m. A SWAT team was among the throngs of police to respond.

Photos from the scene showed young students - some crying, others looking visibly frightened - being escorted by adults through a parking lot in a line, hands on each other's shoulders.

The father of an 8-year-old girl who goes to the Connecticut elementary school says his daughter heard two big bangs there this morning, and teachers then told her to get in a corner.

Stephen Delgiadice says his daughter is fine -- but students at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown were visibly shaken after the shooting.

Delgiadice says the shooting was "alarming" -- especially in a community that he always considered "the safest place in America."

A photo posted by the Newtown Bee newspaper showed a group of children -- some crying, others visibly frightened -- being escorted by adults through a parking lot in a line, with their hands on each other's shoulders.

The White House says the FBI is supporting state and local law enforcement officials in Connecticut as they respond to and investigate the incident.

[da_suns_fan]

What does atheism have to do with this?


Guess we should ban cars, too, because all it takes is a few drinks to turn irresponsible behind the wheel....

Cars have a practical purpose besides killing. Cars werent made for killing.

Take away cars, and we've lost our most efficient mode of transportation.

Take away guns, and we've lost....nothing.

[jeebus]

Do you feel like an idiot yet for plastering the wrong guy's photos all over the forum?
pretty much every news agency out there did that. and the faggots on faceb:lol:lolk crucified the fuck out of him too. lol US population

[Leetonidas]

Atheists have more morals than people who require a mythical man in the sky to tell them killing is bad :lol

You're probably the same way, but I figured out killing people was bad without god's assistance.

lol i was once told i cannot lead a moral life because i do not believe in jesus and cannot sin for him to forgive me....lol christians

[Lincoln]

The only thing I've giggled about in this topic was the falsely accused shooter and the 20 deaths=1 death take.

[DMC]

If the dude in Aurora is still on trial, his prognosis just worsened considerably.

[Frank Dux]

Here comes the part where this shooting gets blamed on atheists and a lack of Christian values :lmao

Megan Kelly on FOX News did this within the first hour of reporting.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Megan Kelly on FOX News did this within the first hour of reporting.

:lol really? What'd she say assuming you remember

[AussieFanKurt]

Megan Kelly on FOX News did this within the first hour of reporting.

Surprising viewpoint for someone on Fox

[Pelicans78]

Fuckin Muslim terrorist.

[Creepn]

i guarantee i have more morals as antheist than those crack slanging drive by shooters who go to prison and suddenly find god. dumbass

Do you now motherfucker? You seem the type to lynch a black grandmother if you knew you could get away with it. Racist athiest no soul having punk.

[AussieFanKurt]

Do you now motherfucker? You seem the type to lynch a black grandmother if you knew you could get away with it. Racist athiest no soul having punk.

please shut the fuck up

[baseline bum]

Do you now motherfucker? You seem the type to lynch a black grandmother if you knew you could get away with it. Racist athiest no soul having punk.

And then he'd burn a cross, err a darwin-fish on her front lawn.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Do you now motherfucker? You seem the type to lynch a black grandmother if you knew you could get away with it. Racist athiest no soul having punk.

:lol again making connections that aren't there. The "lynch-a-n!gger" crowd from back in the day was by and large Christian. The KKK even identified itself as a Christian organization.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And then he'd burn a cross, err a darwin-fish on her front lawn.

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Athiest people lack in morals. They believe all this shit is pointless anyway. Go now or go later. Don't matter. No repercussions.
As an atheist myself, you clearly have no idea what atheism is....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

As an atheist myself, you clearly have no idea what atheism is....

He just believes atheism is what his pastor tells him...

[O.J. Simpson]

The atheist thing seems like lazy trolling.

[Frank Dux]

:lol really? What'd she say assuming you remember

She blamed it on the rise of atheism. How could she even say that with a straight face? I think she might just be a soulless harpy.

[AussieFanKurt]

She blamed it on the rise of atheism. How could she even say that with a straight face? I think she might just be a soulless harpy.

I thought atheists were the ones without morals, what a pathetic thing to say

[DMC]

Difficult Christmas for a lot of families in that area. I cannot imagine. Makes me sick.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Used to be something like this would happen and I'd think back fondly on a time in my younger years when such terrible things seemed happen only so very rarely. Now I'd settle for rolling back the clock to a time where we could go five whole minutes without someone trying to attach an agenda to a senseless tragedy.

[Huey Freeman]

Creepin your out of bounds bro.
This is not the time to talk shit about atheists. Stay on topic dude. A massacre happened in New England today. If you wanna blame somebody blame the government who allows these crazy ass pieces of shit to own guns. Obama and majority of congress claim the are Christians bro. All these gun toting drug dealers and atamatic weapon carrying psychopaths have guns because of the "Christians" in Washington. Saying that, I'm not atheist homey.

[Cry Havoc]

Used to be something like this would happen and I'd think back fondly on a time in my younger years when such terrible things seemed happen only so very rarely. Now I'd settle for rolling back the clock to a time where we could go five whole minutes without someone trying to attach an agenda to a senseless tragedy.

With the goods, as usual.

[Creepn]

And then he'd burn a cross, err a darwin-fish on her front lawn.

Nah no crosses. He'd sit Indian style on the grass and watch the body sway in the wind. Maybe let out a laugh or two when a fly lands on her face. Then he'd take a cellphone picture of himself pointing at the body then save it on his computer in a folder called, "people i snuffed out of existence".

[Reck]

Signs of the time..

If this world ends, or gets blown up, well fucking deserved.

RIP kids.

[cantthinkofanything]

Signs of the time..

If this world ends, or gets blown up, well fucking deserved.

RIP kids.

wtf??? so because of some fucked up people, everyone deserves to go?

[spurspokesman]

An entire Kindergarten class?! :(yes. I'm 20 minutes away and its a damp feeling right about now. Pure shock.

[timvp]

Signs of the time..

If this world ends, or gets blown up, well fucking deserved.

RIP kids.
Shadowflames with the illogical bads.

[Reck]

wtf??? so because of some fucked up people, everyone deserves to go?

Sure as fuck feels like there is a shit ton more of "fucked up" people running around.

When was the last time you heard of a good thing happening by the good old samaritans? Not a religious guy here but it seems like evil is most definitely outweighing the good.

[Creepn]

Creepin your out of bounds bro.
This is not the time to talk shit about atheists. Stay on topic dude. A massacre happened in New England today. If you wanna blame somebody blame the government who allows these crazy ass pieces of shit to own guns. Obama and majority of congress claim the are Christians bro. All these gun toting drug dealers and atamatic weapon carrying psychopaths have guns because of the "Christians" in Washington. Saying that, I'm not atheist homey.

You're right I let the news get the best of me and got off topic. I hope we can use this incident to do something about this to prevent other tragedies like this. My condolences to the family of the slain kids and adults.

[tlongII]

From a woman who works at the local hospital -

https://twitter.com/catarina026 A 7 yr old boy came up to me & asked if I ever saw anyone die. I said "yes, sadly". He holds my hand & says "I saw my best friend die today"

[DisAsTerBot]

Sure as fuck feels like there is a shit ton more of "fucked up" people running around.

When was the last time you heard of a good thing happening by the good old samaritans? Not a religious guy here but it seems like evil is most definitely outweighing the good.

that's media 101, they know "good" stories don't bring the readers a'flockin

[Drachen]

You're a fucking idiot if you think killing 1 child is better than killing 20 children.
You're a perfect example of somebody who does not respect human life anymore.

I am not sure where you are going with this, but hell man, 1 kid dying is far better than 20 kids dying. No one disrespected human life, he didn't say 1 kid dying is good, just that it is substantially better than 20 kids dying.

[Reck]

that's media 101, they know "good" stories don't bring the readers a'flockin

Yes, sadly we dont get too see much of whatever good that's been done because the media pretty much locks that out of our TVs and paper. Or just do a piece when it suits them.

[Libri]

I have no words to describe this horror. :(

[ColinB]

Horrible. Makes me sick.

[baseline bum]

Sure as fuck feels like there is a shit ton more of "fucked up" people running around.

When was the last time you heard of a good thing happening by the good old samaritans? Not a religious guy here but it seems like evil is most definitely outweighing the good.

LOL judging humanity based on cable news.

[baseline bum]

I have no words to describe this horror. :(

???

[Reck]

LOL judging humanity based on cable news.

How so? This are things that are happening out there. Is not as if I'm watching made up Fox news shit. :lol

[Trill Clinton]

Absolutely sickening. RIP to all those who died in this tragic shooting.

[DMC]

Sure as fuck feels like there is a shit ton more of "fucked up" people running around.

When was the last time you heard of a good thing happening by the good old samaritans? Not a religious guy here but it seems like evil is most definitely outweighing the good.

Try to maintain some form of rational perspective. A heinous act was committed by someone who wasn't mentally stable. That person looked at life and decided that, if everyone died, it was well deserved. That sounds about like the same line of shit you're spewing. Deal with your inner conflict quietly, don't spread your shit here. Have an ounce of decency.

[Spurminator]

How so? This are things that are happening out there. Is not as if I'm watching made up Fox news shit. :lol

I think his point is that you are letting cable news selective coverage of stories skew your view of "the way things are." Just because you don't hear about good samaritan stories doesn't mean they're not out there. The news is fundamentally negative. It has been for decades.

[FkLA]

This is so fucked up.

Not surprised though, all these crazy pussies are making this atleast a semiannual thing. :(

[pawe]

Shooter must really hate his mother. He shot her in the face, shot her other son and husband then drove 80 miles to the school and destroyed everything she loves.

[Reck]

Try to maintain some form of rational perspective. A heinous act was committed by someone who wasn't mentally stable. That person looked at life and decided that, if everyone died, it was well deserved. That sounds about like the same line of shit you're spewing. Deal with your inner conflict quietly, don't spread your shit here. Have an ounce of decency.

Ok Fidel, I'll keep quiet and keep my thoughts to myself. Get a grip.


I think his point is that you are letting cable news selective coverage of stories skew your view of "the way things are." Just because you don't hear about good samaritan stories doesn't mean they're not out there. The news is fundamentally negative. It has been for decades.

I'll admit I wrote that in a moment of rage but it doesn't mean I'm wrong about where this world is heading with this much evil.

[Clipper Nation]

Signs of the time..

If this world ends, or gets blown up, well fucking deserved.
Fuck man, no need to bring the rest of us down with the sickos of the world...

[Spurminator]

I'll admit I wrote that in a moment of rage but it doesn't mean I'm wrong about where this world is heading with this much evil.

Compared to what?

[rascal]

Guns don't kill people! People kill people!
People with guns kill people.

[timtonymanu]

Tragic. Just a few days after the Clackamas shooting.

Makes me sick.

[rascal]

Connecticut already has extremely strict gun control laws, and frankly, even if we had a federal gun ban, sickos like that guy would just get their guns illegally or use a different weapon...
I would like the odds better if he had a knife.

[Reck]

Compared to what?

That's the point, nothing to compare. The world has been going in the wrong direction for years, decades upon decades.

So I make a thoughtless post and some people get bent out of shape. Trust me, it was not my intention to come off as someone who would enjoy seeing the world end or whatever. The point of that post was that at this rate, we wont last long if we keep killing one another and so on.

My apologies to those that misunderstood my post.

[rascal]

He could have killed those 30+ people with a knife just as easily as with a full semi auto!:cry

Much easier to jump a guy with a knife than with a gun. Don't even argue that.

[Fpoonsie]

Much easier to jump a guy with a knife than with a gun. Don't even argue that.

As an ST rule of thumb, anytime you see this -- :cry -- assume that nothing before or after should be taken seriously.

[rascal]

Exactly. Instead of focusing on gun control, we should focus on why an individual would do such a thing.

there are no answers to why someone would do such a thing, the guy had mental issues. But no way should this guy have had easy access to acquiring guns.

[FkLA]

Fuck, those pics of the frightened kids being led out of the school are so sad. :(

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol rascal giving serious replies to sarcastic posts

[Reck]

there are no answers to why someone would do such a thing, the guy had mental issues. But no way should this guy have had easy access to acquiring guns.

They just said on CNN that the the guns were registered by the guy's own mother.

Question is, if this guy was mentally ill, why would she have guns laying around when your son is fucked in the head. Further more, how do you let the guns be accesible to others?

[baseline bum]

rascal = WC?

[Fpoonsie]

The Onion, ironically enough, nailed it.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-nation-reports,30743/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

[SA210]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/67002_478998152143578_1704390768_n.jpg

[AussieFanKurt]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/67002_478998152143578_1704390768_n.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_664t4rIGYM

War is always the answer son

[rascal]

rascal = WC?

I am far on the opposite side of WC.

[FkLA]

Why do news outlets reenact shit like this? Theres an asshole on CNN with a map of the school and telestrator drawing on the rooms where the shooting happened.

[irishock]

Ouch.

[DMC]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/67002_478998152143578_1704390768_n.jpg

SA210, changing the world, one douchey remark at a time.

[SA210]

SA210, changing the world, one douchey remark at a time.

The remark is true

[DMC]

The remark is true

So you know for a fact that the President was pretending to cry? How would you know? Ass nuggets don't count.

[SA210]

So you know for a fact that the President was pretending to cry? How would you know? Ass nuggets don't count.

You can tell. Are you that shocked that a known liar would lie? And it is true that Obama murders innocent children in the hundreds, even small little ones like in Connecticut, hell he even ordered the assassination of an American 16 year old boy without charge or trial, from Colorado. Wow, I guess a man like that would never fake cry huh? ..nah.. of course not. Murder kids yes, but fake cry...no that's too much.

[Reck]

You can tell. Are you that shocked that a known liar would lie? And it is true that Obama murders innocent children in the hundreds, even small little ones like in Connecticut, hell he even ordered the assassination of an American 16 year old boy without charge or trial, from Colorado. Wow, I guess a man like that would never fake cry huh? ..nah.. of course not. Murder kids yes, but fake cry...no that's too much.

Unless they did a real life photopshop on him those were real tears.

They just showed the clip in question on CNN and he was pretty teary eyed.

[SA210]

Unless they did a real life photopshop on him those were real tears.

They just showed the clip in question on CNN and he was pretty teary eyed.

Fakin it. I wish he would cry about the kids he has murdered himself though. I hope guilt sets in with him about his own wrongdoings.

[DMC]

They just said on CNN that the the guns were registered by the guy's own mother.

Question is, if this guy was mentally ill, why would she have guns laying around when your son is fucked in the head. Further more, how do you let the guns be accesible to others?

Nice use of hyperbole disguised as fact. Guns aren't normally "laying around the house". They are normally in some sort of a case. Your use of hyperbole is one of the things that causes you to make extreme conclusions. Hell, if people are just going to leave guns laying around the house for their mentally ill kids to use to shoot up schools, everyone deserves to die.

If he can acquire a kevlar vest, lock and load and do what he did, he's not "mentally ill". He's had bouts of mental issues, but that's not the same as being mentally ill where someone would want to keep you away from their guns.

Bottom line is that, throughout these things, people start with the guesses and state them as fact. They do so right away, and as news unfolds, people change their stories but still add the next layer of guesses and conclusions based on those. The truth is that all the facts aren't out. What is out is that 20 children died for no fucking reason. The guy then, it seems, killed himself. I don't know why someone who was planning on suicide would wear a vest. Regardless, you're a twitchy little twat and you need to calm the fuck down before I send someone over there to bitch slap you.

[Reck]

Nice use of hyperbole disguised as fact. Guns aren't normally "laying around the house". They are normally in some sort of a case. Your use of hyperbole is one of the things that causes you to make extreme conclusions. Hell, if people are just going to leave guns laying around the house for their mentally ill kids to use to shoot up schools, everyone deserves to die.

LOL you know exactly what I mean by laying around yet you go to extreme measures to make it seem like I meant something else.

C'mon DMC..

[DMC]

LOL you know exactly what I mean by laying around yet you go to extreme measures to make it seem like I meant something else.

C'mon DMC..

"you know exactly what I mean"

Why don't you stop acting like a twat and I will stop treating you like one. The guy acquired guns. You don't know how. Shut the fuck up until you do.

[benefactor]

As a father myself, I am broken over this. Can't even imagine what the parents are feeling. Prayers for all involved.

[mavs>spurs]

This is why teachers with their CCW's should be allowed to carry on campus. Glad I picked up another AR and a handful of lowers before the election, this is more ammo for the anti-gun pussies and their quest to strip us of our 2nd amendment rights.


best post you ever made..it's been proven that gun rights make you safer. gary kleck and other criminologists put this issue to rest years ago with the studies they put out. disgusting that these fucks are already playing political football with the fact that a bunch of kids were murdered today, soulless fucks.

[ploto]

I have been sick all day over this: for the kids who died senselessly; for their distraught parents; for the kids whose lives will never be the same.

The latest I have seen is that this was his mother's kindergarten class that he targeted - not his kid's class.

[Reck]

"you know exactly what I mean"

Why don't you stop acting like a twat and I will stop treating you like one. The guy acquired guns. You don't know how. Shut the fuck up until you do.

He acquired it because he had accessed to them via his mother, who didn't properly hid them.

Maybe stop being a self entitled dickwad and people wont give you a hard time every time you post?

LOL enjoys killing deers. Dont talk to me about right and wrong bitch.

[TwAnKiEs]

The hardest thing is to come home and see all those decorations and presents under the tree for those parents knowing their kids aren't coming back. I have two girls (6,4) and if that ever happened to them, they would have to lock me up in a padded room :dizzy