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timvp
12-15-2012, 06:22 PM
Playing the second game of a back-to-back that was also the fifth game in seven nights, the Spurs never looked quite right in their 98-90 loss against the Blazers. Fatigue was definitely an issue as San Antonio dropped consecutive contests for the first time this season, however the young Blazers deserve a lot of credit for keeping the pressure on and decidedly outplaying the visitors.

The first quarter was hotly contested; neither team led by more than four points in the final eight minutes of the period. Portland held a 23-21 advantage at the quarter’s end.

The Blazers started strong in the second stanza, with a Luke Babbitt three-pointer giving them a seven-point lead. The Spurs quickly battled back by scoring the next nine points of the game. Later in the quarter, the Blazers again went up by seven points following an 8-0 run. San Antonio came back but still trailed by four points, 49-45, heading into halftime.

The Spurs were sharp to start the second half -- Tony Parker gave the Spurs the lead two minutes into the third quarter -- but that crispness didn’t last long. San Antonio’s offense dried up and they scored only four minutes over almost seven minutes of the period. By the time the Spurs rediscovered their groove, they were down by double-digits.

Thanks to stout defense, the good guys were able to make it a game in the fourth quarter. From the ten-minute mark to the five-minute mark, the Blazers were held to only two points -- and that allowed the Spurs to get within a manageable amount.

A Danny Green three-pointer trimmed the deficit to three with 2:21 remaining. Damian Lillard responded with a jumper, but Tim Duncan answered right back with a basket of his own. On the ensuing possession, the Spurs got a stop but failed to corral the rebound. Given another chance at it, Nicolas Batum drained a three-pointer with 1:06 to go to put the Blazers up by six points and essentially close the door on any comeback hopes.

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Tim Duncan
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Tim Duncan looked surprisingly limber early on in the contest. He was moving great, jumping well and was a force on both ends in the first half. He scored ten of his points in the first half on 4-for-7 shooting from the field. Unfortunately, fatigue caught up to Duncan in the second half. He was nearly invisible in the third quarter and although he was better in the fourth quarter, it was obvious that he was running on fumes. Despite the limitations, his defense remained sharp outside of a subpar rebounding performance.
Final Grade: 81
Season Average: 91.1
Adj. Average: 91.3
Last 10 Average: 90.0
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Manu Ginobili
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I haven’t seen any confirmation but it was clear to me that Manu Ginobili’s back was bothering him. He grabbed his back on a couple of occasions and never seemed capable of shifting out of first gear. As a result, it was difficult for him to make plays off the dribble or to stay with his man defensively. That said, Ginobili somehow managed to contribute at a somewhat satisfactory clip despite his limitations. While he had a handful of head-scratching decisions, he still dished out seven assists and scored 12 points on seven shots. Additionally, rebounding continues to be a major strength. In his last ten games, Ginobili is averaging 5.1 rebounds in 27.3 minutes per game -- a rate that is 32% better than his career rebounding rate.
Final Grade: 75
Season Average: 82.8
Adj. Average: 83.0
Last 10 Average: 84.8
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Tony Parker
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Unfortunately, it appears as if Tony Parker’s exceptionally strong start to the season on the defensive end is coming to an end. In the last week or so, he’s switched to regular season doldrums type defense. That was apparent as Damian Lillard scored too easily and the rookie rarely had any difficulties finding teammates. On the other end, Parker was decent. He scored well (his 7-for-7 free throw shooting lifted his season percentage to 81.7%) but his playmaking was below average and his decisions weren’t as quick as usual. For the Spurs to get back to their winning ways, they need Parker to pick up his aggression on both ends and play each possession with more purpose.
Final Grade: 75
Season Average: 87.6
Adj. Average: 87.5
Last 10 Average: 90.0
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Danny Green
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After being called out by Pop following the loss against the Jazz, Danny Green didn’t respond very well in his next outing. He didn’t even attempt a shot until his 10th minute of playing time. Green had a couple good passes and hit a big shot late but remained quiet for the duration of the night on the offensive end. Defensively, he was a little bit better but still relatively silent. The Spurs need more ferocity out of Green. Take away his intensity on D and his confidence on O and he’s simply not much of a player.
Final Grade: 76
Season Average: 82.0
Adj. Average: 82.3
Last 10 Average: 81.4
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Gary Neal
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Gary Neal was missing his shots and was equally imprecise on defense, where he habitually found himself out of position. His sloppiness also extended to his ball-handling and passing. Neal rebounded the ball well and I thought his shot selection was decent enough but he can’t play an ill-focused brand of basketball if he wants to keep getting playing big minutes when everyone is healthy.
Final Grade: 74
Season Average: 82.5
Adj. Average: 83.1
Last 10 Average: 82.5
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DeJuan Blair
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Whatever is holding down DeJuan Blair physically -- be it a gimpy ankle, degenerating knees or a recent spike in chubbiness -- is making it difficult to watch him play. He can’t jump or move laterally or run or do just about anything this sport requires. Let’s hope that whatever is limiting him can be solved soon because it’s getting pathetic.
Final Grade: 68
Season Average: 78.3
Adj. Average: 79.6
Last 10 Average: 74.4
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Tiago Splitter
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The Bad: I thought Tiago Splitter left a few rebounds out there. I also didn’t love how he defended the rim against penetration. Additionally, his finishing wasn’t as spectacular as it has been lately. The Good: Splitter’s defense against LaMarcus Aldridge was really good. He drew three offensive fouls against the talented bigman and showed the necessary quickness to stay in front of him. Offensively, he remained a big part of the proceedings even when he was paired with Duncan. Splitter’s scoring was good but I was especially impressed by his passing. Each of his three assists was dazzling.
Final Grade: 90
Season Average: 84.3
Adj. Average: 85.2
Last 10 Average: 87.8
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Boris Diaw
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The funk continues for Boris Diaw. He now has nine turnovers in his last three games. Considering he was averaging less than a turnover a game in his previous 18 outings, that’s a stupefying amount. He had a few solid passes and hit the shots he attempted but offense was mostly a struggle for the Frenchman. Defense wasn’t much better. His post defense, specifically, was surprisingly weak. He’s usually really good at defending the low block. Hopefully Diaw snaps out of it soon.
Final Grade: 69
Season Average: 79.0
Adj. Average: 80.5
Last 10 Average: 79.0
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Patrick Mills
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To say Patrick Mills played bad defense would be putting it kindly. Mills let Lillard repeatedly destroy him with fakes and quick dribble moves. Offensively, the Australian was useful. I really liked his decisions and the way he utilized his speed to force the Blazers to pay attention to him. That said, his defense can’t be that wretched if he wants to earn NBA minutes.
Final Grade: 78
Season Average: 82.5
Adj. Average: 82.2
Last 10 Average: 87.9
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Nando De Colo
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Defensively, Nando De Colo authored a few blatant errors. The rest of the time he was average to above average on D, but those types of miscues need to be eliminated if he wants to gain the coaches’ confidence. Offensively, he didn’t do a whole lot. He had a clever drive to the hoop for a bucket and also made a few heady passes but most of the time he was merely observing the action.
Final Grade: 80
Season Average: 81.9
Adj. Average: 83.8
Last 10 Average: 81.7
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Matt Bonner
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Where did that hustling, physical version of Matt Bonner go? He was back to being passive during his four minutes in Portland. Defensively, he was basically just a sieve. His transition defense was particularly weak. Add in no rebounds and no offense and it was a forgettable foray onto the court for Bonner.
Final Grade: 76
Season Average: 82.5
Adj. Average: 84.2
Last 10 Average: 84.1
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Pop
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I really thought Pop was going to sit the Big Three this game. In retrospect, I believe it would have been the prudent move. He had a tired team and there was no reason to risk injury. Hopefully David Stern’s actions haven’t changed the way Pop manages his team’s minutes going forward. Outside of that decision, I didn’t have any major qualms. I liked that he played Splitter extra minutes. Then again, he probably could have been more imaginative with his guard rotation in order to find a group that could consistently put points on the board.
Final Grade: 73
Season Average: 85.0
Last 10 Average: 86.1
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Offense
The offensive numbers on a whole aren’t bad. In most areas, the Spurs did what they needed to do. They didn’t shoot great from three-point land or the charity stripe, however what really killed them was the turnover total (19). Even though the Spurs had no crispness, they might have survived if they would have kept their turnovers at a reasonable level.
Final Grade: 76
Season Average: 85.0
Last 10 Average: 85.6
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Defense
It’s not easy to find a reason to complain defense-wise. They grabbed rebounds at a healthy rate, limited Portland’s free throw attempts, defended the three-point line well, kept them out of the paint and restricted their assisting. The Blazers won by hitting 15 two-pointers outside of the paint (to compare, the Spurs only had four such shots). Usually this level of defense will produce a victory. On Thursday night it did not thanks to substandard offense and the Blazers hitting their two-point jumpers.
Final Grade: 87
Season Average: 83.3
Last 10 Average: 84.8
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Overall
The Blazers played well. The Spurs were tired. And the good guys lost. While we can point to fatigue, let’s hope that this doesn’t become a common theme this season.
Final Grade: 78
Season Average: 84.3
Last 10 Average: 85.1
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Spurs da champs
12-15-2012, 06:23 PM
Danny Green might play himself out the rotation if he keeps this shit (literally) up!

Obstructed_View
12-15-2012, 06:28 PM
The Blazers isolated on Bonner and took advantage of him the second he came in. The only reason he's been effective is because other teams haven't done the same thing.

timvp
12-15-2012, 06:31 PM
The Blazers isolated on Bonner and took advantage of him the second he came in. The only reason he's been effective is because other teams haven't done the same thing.

Good point. It was almost Rasheed Wallace's "give the ball to whoever Bonner is guarding" offense.

I was hoping that Bonner would fight back or show some sort of life ............ but that didn't happen.

Paranoid Pop
12-15-2012, 07:02 PM
Thanks didn't catch that one and I don't think I'll have the courage to sit through it tbh. Sounds like everyone played pretty badly.

Aren't TP, Neal and Manu rebounding so well because our bigs suck? TP rarely got that many rebound as in his triple double, Neal and Manu have been rebounding very well for a while... The SFs are obviously a big part of the equation but still...

TP turning the ball over so much doesn't gives us good chances to win any game, we got enough guys turning the ball over in general...

I guess at this point in the season I should be happy we saw some flashes of last year's offense but Pop's rotation are kinda irritating even tho he still has a lot of time left, I'm convinced he has too many guards and that's makes both his choices harder and the scrubs job harder with 30s of play once in a blue moon, so it's counter productive more than anything.

maverick1948
12-15-2012, 07:09 PM
Good point. It was almost Rasheed Wallace's "give the ball to whoever Bonner is guarding" offense.

I was hoping that Bonner would fight back or show some sort of life ............ but that didn't happen.


I'm sorry guys, but that is not what I saw when I replayed the last 4 mins of the 1st half. It looked to me like Damian Lilliard was working Tony over. Babbitt dropping a deuce over Manu and Batum stuffing Danny Green at the rim with a dunk. Come on. Stop blaming Bonner for what happens because you dont like him. And dont come back that he disappears in the playoffs, this aint playoff time. :nope

Frenchie
12-15-2012, 07:25 PM
At this point of the season, Tony Parker and Patrick Mills are the only players to have a better season average than adjusted average. Could we say that when they have limited minutes, they're more efficient ? It's a bit surprising.

Tuddy
12-15-2012, 07:31 PM
Blair's ankle is still no good can tell by the way he's jogging up and down the court he's favouring his left

SPIDER2311
12-15-2012, 07:40 PM
timmy, tony and patty top 3 from last 10 games

Obstructed_View
12-15-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm sorry guys, but that is not what I saw when I replayed the last 4 mins of the 1st half. It looked to me like Damian Lilliard was working Tony over. Babbitt dropping a deuce over Manu and Batum stuffing Danny Green at the rim with a dunk. Come on. Stop blaming Bonner for what happens because you dont like him. And dont come back that he disappears in the playoffs, this aint playoff time. :nope

I'm not sure what you think people are "blaming Bonner for", but clearly he's not to blame for all the things you mentioned. Hell, he's not even to blame for the Blazers going right at him as soon as he came into the game, which was my single opinion. He is, however, completely to blame for not fighting back or showing some sort of life, as timvp mentioned, and my observation is still accurate, regardless of how you define "blame" and choose to throw it around. I simply pointed out why I thought Bonner wasn't able to log more minutes like he has in recent games.

maverick1948
12-16-2012, 11:11 PM
I'm not sure what you think people are "blaming Bonner for", but clearly he's not to blame for all the things you mentioned. Hell, he's not even to blame for the Blazers going right at him as soon as he came into the game, which was my single opinion. He is, however, completely to blame for not fighting back or showing some sort of life, as timvp mentioned, and my observation is still accurate, regardless of how you define "blame" and choose to throw it around. I simply pointed out why I thought Bonner wasn't able to log more minutes like he has in recent games.

"The Blazers isolated on Bonner and took advantage of him the second he came in. The only reason he's been effective is because other teams haven't done the same thing."

That is your quote. Bonner was taken advantage of the second he came in, as if he did nothing to stop anyone from scoring or doing anything. He was not the cause of what went on during the time he was on the court. But you made sound as tho he was. It is not fair to place the blame on a player just because you dont like him Remember this Bonner 10-1 when he played in the playoffs and 0-3 when he sat.

therealtruth
12-17-2012, 12:20 AM
"The Blazers isolated on Bonner and took advantage of him the second he came in. The only reason he's been effective is because other teams haven't done the same thing."

That is your quote. Bonner was taken advantage of the second he came in, as if he did nothing to stop anyone from scoring or doing anything. He was not the cause of what went on during the time he was on the court. But you made sound as tho he was. It is not fair to place the blame on a player just because you dont like him Remember this Bonner 10-1 when he played in the playoffs and 0-3 when he sat.

That's a meaningless stat. How do explain the loss of momentum everytime he came into the game?

Obstructed_View
12-17-2012, 12:34 PM
"The Blazers isolated on Bonner and took advantage of him the second he came in. The only reason he's been effective is because other teams haven't done the same thing."

That is your quote. Bonner was taken advantage of the second he came in, as if he did nothing to stop anyone from scoring or doing anything. He was not the cause of what went on during the time he was on the court. But you made sound as tho he was. It is not fair to place the blame on a player just because you dont like him Remember this Bonner 10-1 when he played in the playoffs and 0-3 when he sat.

Bonner was absolutely the cause of the other team isolating on him as well as scoring on him. I'm unsure how you can even argue something like that. Don't attribute every problem the defense had to him, but at least let him own the ones that belong to him. I've yet to see either timvp or myself blaming Bonner for the fact that Parker got torched, which seems to be what you're implying.