Strict Restrictions on Assault Rifles

[Wild Cobra]

OK guys. I'm all for a strict restriction for the purchase of Assault Rifles. I say we:

1) Make prospective buyers register with their city and/or county, their intent to buy an assault rifle.

2) A stringent background check of the individual wishing to purchase the assault rifle.

3) The county and/or city must approve the sale before the weapon can be bought, and they are not required to approve it.

4) A law enforcement representative can with a short notice, maybe a week or two, come into your home, or registered place of storage, and check to insure the weapon is securely stored where it is registered to be stored.

Any questions?

[Bill_Brasky]

Why are you so douchey?

[Th'Pusher]

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[LnGrrrR]

Obvious trap post is obvious.

[scott]

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[SA210]

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[DUNCANownsKOBE]

When did Obama say guns make us less safe?

[ErnestLynch]

What are you calling an 'assault' rifle ?

[mavs>spurs]

ain't nobody restricting shit again sons..we got armed citizens militias all over the country just chomping at the bit. a lot more sophisticated than you realize too..former military and police make up these groups.

[ChumpDumper]

Champing at the bit to do what?

[SA210]

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[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Champing at the bit to do what?

The South is anxious to revolt against the big mean federal government that subsidizes every Southern State every year with urban tax dollars :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

ain't nobody restricting shit again sons..we got armed citizens militias all over the country just chomping at the bit. a lot more sophisticated than you realize too..former military and police make up these groups.

:lol

At best you would be able to get the national guard called in and what they would do to you would make MacArthur vs. the Bonus Army look like a bake sale.

[DMC]

That would be a great way to get rid of the 200 dollar tax stamp, now if we could only afford the 14K for the Colt M16.

[DMC]

The South is anxious to revolt against the big mean federal government that subsidizes every State every year with urban tax dollars :lol

fify

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

fify

?

States that pay a lot of taxes because of urban areas (New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc.) aren't getting "subsidized" by urban tax dollars when they pay more in taxes than they get in federal entitlements.

States like Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, etc. receive more in federal entitlements for every dollar they pay in federal taxes than other states. This isn't speculation either, it's back up by statistics. Texas is actually the only red state that pays more in taxes than it gets in federal entitlements.

[Bender]

4) A law enforcement representative can with a short notice, maybe a week or two, come into your home, or registered place of storage, and check to insure the weapon is securely stored where it is registered to be stored.
fuck that

[DMC]

?

States that pay a lot of taxes because of urban areas (New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc.) aren't getting "subsidized" by urban tax dollars when they pay more in taxes than they get in federal entitlements.

States like Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, etc. receive more in federal entitlements for every dollar they pay in federal taxes than other states. This isn't speculation either, it's back up by statistics. Texas is actually the only red state that pays more in taxes than it gets in federal entitlements.

New Mexico $2.03
Mississippi $2.02
Alaska $1.84
Louisiana $1.78
West Virginia $1.76
North Dakota $1.68
Alabama $1.66
South Dakota $1.53
Kentucky $1.51
Virginia $1.51
Montana $1.47
Hawaii $1.44
Maine $1.41
Arkansas $1.41
Oklahoma $1.36
South Carolina $1.35
Missouri $1.32
Maryland $1.30
Tennessee $1.27
Idaho $1.21
Arizona $1.19
Kansas $1.12
Wyoming $1.11
Iowa $1.10
Nebraska $1.10
Vermont $1.08
North Carolina $1.08
Pennsylvania $1.07
Utah $1.07 29
Indiana $1.05
Ohio $1.05
Georgia $1.01


Per tax dollar paid in, how much states get back.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

New Mexico $2.03
Mississippi $2.02
Alaska $1.84
Louisiana $1.78
West Virginia $1.76
North Dakota $1.68
Alabama $1.66
South Dakota $1.53
Kentucky $1.51
Virginia $1.51
Montana $1.47
Hawaii $1.44
Maine $1.41
Arkansas $1.41
Oklahoma $1.36
South Carolina $1.35
Missouri $1.32
Maryland $1.30
Tennessee $1.27
Idaho $1.21
Arizona $1.19
Kansas $1.12
Wyoming $1.11
Iowa $1.10
Nebraska $1.10
Vermont $1.08
North Carolina $1.08
Pennsylvania $1.07
Utah $1.07 29
Indiana $1.05
Ohio $1.05
Georgia $1.01


Per tax dollar paid in, how much states get back.
So the states I said receive some of the most subsidies are all near the top of the list. Now lets look at the part of the list you decided to not post (I wonder why):

Rhode Island $1.00
Florida $0.97
Texas $0.94
Oregon $0.93
Michigan $0.92
Washington $0.88
Wisconsin $0.86
Massachusetts $0.82
Colorado $0.81
New York $0.79
California $0.78
Delaware $0.77
Illinois $0.75
Minnesota $0.72
New Hampshire $0.71
Connecticut $0.69
Nevada $0.65
New Jersey $0.61


Sure enough, the urban states I mentioned are all near the bottom of the list and pay more in taxes than they receive in subsidies. What exactly did you hope to do by posting that list that endorses everything I said?

[mavs>spurs]

?

States that pay a lot of taxes because of urban areas (New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc.) aren't getting "subsidized" by urban tax dollars when they pay more in taxes than they get in federal entitlements.

States like Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, etc. receive more in federal entitlements for every dollar they pay in federal taxes than other states. This isn't speculation either, it's back up by statistics. Texas is actually the only red state that pays more in taxes than it gets in federal entitlements.

:lol edited

Also, you have to think about what is the main type of business for most of those red states? Agriculture, and the prices of the goods they are producing is heavily regulated and set by the federal government. These guys don't get to set the prices for their product and farmers struggle hard to earn a living. If farmers were allowed to charge a fair price i'm pretty sure the red states would earn a lot more revenue..plus your post doesn't account for a huge subsidy all the blue states get from the federal government: cheap food from the red states. It's one of those situations where you can't really make a fair comparison in the first place, glad you at least realized that blue states still take in more than that pay in and edited your post though.

[mavs>spurs]

So the states I said receive some of the most subsidies are all near the top of the list. Now lets look at the part of the list you decided to not post (I wonder why):

Rhode Island $1.00
Florida $0.97
Texas $0.94
Oregon $0.93
Michigan $0.92
Washington $0.88
Wisconsin $0.86
Massachusetts $0.82
Colorado $0.81
New York $0.79
California $0.78
Delaware $0.77
Illinois $0.75
Minnesota $0.72
New Hampshire $0.71
Connecticut $0.69
Nevada $0.65
New Jersey $0.61


Sure enough, the urban states I mentioned are all near the bottom of the list and pay more in taxes than they receive in subsidies. What exactly did you hope to do by posting that list that endorses everything I said?
all that is after you edited your post to move the goal posts. i saw what you wrote the first time...it's in dmc's quote. you said that they pay in more than they take, not that they take less than the red states in comparison to what they pay in. that wasn't even your original argument.

[ElNono]

Wtf... That fat lard Christie better get on the phone and start asking for handouts

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol edited

Also, you have to think about what is the main type of business for most of those red states? Agriculture, and the prices of the goods they are producing is heavily regulated and set by the federal government. These guys don't get to set the prices for their product and farmers struggle hard to earn a living. If farmers were allowed to charge a fair price i'm pretty sure the red states would earn a lot more revenue..plus your post doesn't account for a huge subsidy all the blue states get from the federal government: cheap food from the red states. It's one of those situations where you can't really make a fair comparison in the first place, glad you at least realized that blue states still take in more than that pay in and edited your post though.
My post was edited to include the part about Texas. The fact you're harping on the fact I edited my post says something about your actual argument.

Please link me to something that corroborates anything you just said about what the government does with agriculture. I'm anxious to find out where you learned what you just said about the government regulating agriculture.

[mavs>spurs]

Bro you said "States that pay a lot of taxes because of urban areas (New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc.) aren't getting "subsidized" by urban tax dollars when they pay more in taxes than they get in federal entitlements." and dmc's response was that plenty of blue states also receive more in entitlements than they pay in..you're trying to move the goalposts.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

all that is after you edited your post to move the goal posts. i saw what you wrote the first time...it's in dmc's quote.
:lmao:lmao:lmao what? The post DMC quoted it verbatim the same as my post after it was edited (DMC didn't quote my post till after it was edited). I have no idea what the fuck you're looking at.


you said that they pay in more than they take, not that they take less than the red states in comparison to what they pay in. that wasn't even your original argument.
:lmao:lmao What? My argument that they pay more than they take in hasn't changed, I never moved it to "They take less than red states." Point out where I changed my argument.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Bro you said "States that pay a lot of taxes because of urban areas (New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc.) aren't getting "subsidized" by urban tax dollars when they pay more in taxes than they get in federal entitlements." and dmc's response was that plenty of blue states also receive more in entitlements than they pay in..you're trying to move the goalposts.

:lmao:lmao:lmao read what you're typing. My argument was never "Every blue state pays in more than it takes!" that's a strawman argument you're making up. My argument was urban states (like the ones I listed, all of which do actually pay more than they take) aren't getting subsidized. No one brought up blue states before you did. The only blue state/red state mention from me was the Texas part I edited in, which had nothing to do with blue states.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Please link me to something that corroborates anything you just said about what the government does with agriculture. I'm anxious to find out where you learned what you just said about the government regulating agriculture.

I have a feeling this is gonna get ignored, and it's gonna turn into a semantics argument about what my argument was.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Also, you have to think about what is the main type of business for most of those red states? Agriculture, and the prices of the goods they are producing is heavily regulated and set by the federal government. These guys don't get to set the prices for their product and farmers struggle hard to earn a living. If farmers were allowed to charge a fair price i'm pretty sure the red states would earn a lot more revenue..plus your post doesn't account for a huge subsidy all the blue states get from the federal government: cheap food from the red states. It's one of those situations where you can't really make a fair comparison in the first place, glad you at least realized that blue states still take in more than that pay in and edited your post though.

This is so hilariously wrong I can't stop laughing.

[rascal]

DUNCANownsKOBE wins this argument.

[ChumpDumper]

DUNCANownsKOBE wins this argument.I don't know about that. UTA has a world-class agricultural subsidy accounting program.

[DMC]

So the states I said receive some of the most subsidies are all near the top of the list. Now lets look at the part of the list you decided to not post (I wonder why):

Rhode Island $1.00
Florida $0.97
Texas $0.94
Oregon $0.93
Michigan $0.92
Washington $0.88
Wisconsin $0.86
Massachusetts $0.82
Colorado $0.81
New York $0.79
California $0.78
Delaware $0.77
Illinois $0.75
Minnesota $0.72
New Hampshire $0.71
Connecticut $0.69
Nevada $0.65
New Jersey $0.61


Sure enough, the urban states I mentioned are all near the bottom of the list and pay more in taxes than they receive in subsidies. What exactly did you hope to do by posting that list that endorses everything I said?

You didn't mention red or blue states. You said southern states. According to those stats, most of the states that get more than they pay are not southern states.

[DMC]

New Mexico $2.03
Mississippi $2.02 south
Alaska $1.84 not south
Louisiana $1.78 south
West Virginia $1.76 south
North Dakota $1.68 not south
Alabama $1.66 south
South Dakota $1.53 technically not south
Kentucky $1.51 south
Virginia $1.51 south
Montana $1.47 not south
Hawaii $1.44 not south
Maine $1.41 not south
Arkansas $1.41 south
Oklahoma $1.36 south
South Carolina $1.35 south
Missouri $1.32 south
Maryland $1.30 not south
Tennessee $1.27 south
Idaho $1.21 not south
Arizona $1.19 not south
Kansas $1.12 south
Wyoming $1.11 not south
Iowa $1.10 not south
Nebraska $1.10 not south
Vermont $1.08 not south
North Carolina $1.08 south
Pennsylvania $1.07 not south
Utah $1.07 29 not south
Indiana $1.05 not south
Ohio $1.05 not south
Georgia $1.01 south


Per tax dollar paid in, how much states get back.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You didn't mention red or blue states.
Make sure you mention that to m>s :lol


You said southern states. According to those stats, most of the states that get more than they pay are not southern states.
Most of the states in the country aren't Southern States. You can argue semantics all you want in spite of how obvious what I was saying was (that Southern States receive the biggest government subsidies), which they do for the most part. The fact there are a few states that might receive more than the Alabamas and Mississippis of the country does very little to discredit what I said.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

New Mexico $2.03
Mississippi $2.02
Alaska $1.84
Louisiana $1.78
West Virginia $1.76
North Dakota $1.68
Alabama $1.66
South Dakota $1.53
Kentucky $1.51
Virginia $1.51
Montana $1.47
Hawaii $1.44
Maine $1.41
Arkansas $1.41
Oklahoma $1.36
South Carolina $1.35
Missouri $1.32
Maryland $1.30
Tennessee $1.27
Idaho $1.21
Arizona $1.19
Kansas $1.12
Wyoming $1.11
Iowa $1.10
Nebraska $1.10
Vermont $1.08
North Carolina $1.08
Pennsylvania $1.07
Utah $1.07 29
Indiana $1.05
Ohio $1.05
Georgia $1.01


Per tax dollar paid in, how much states get back.

Look at where the Southern States are on this list. Almost all of them are near the top of the list. As much as you want it to be, my argument wasn't an absolute blanket statement . It's meaning was pretty obvious, that as whole, Southern States receive more in federal subsidies than the rest of the country, which you know is true, thus your dancing around it with semantics.

[DMC]

Also important to note that those receiving the subsidies are by and large Democratic voters (if they vote at all). Southern farmers are historically Democrats. Minorities vote democratic as well. Military spending, imo, is not a subsidy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Also important to note that those receiving the subsidies are by and large Democratic voters (if they vote at all). Southern farmers are historically Democrats. Minorities vote democratic as well. Military spending, imo, is not a subsidy.

So is this about Democrat vs. Republican or not?

[DMC]

Look at where the Southern States are on this list. Almost all of them are near the top of the list. As much as you want it to be, my argument wasn't an absolute blanket statement . It's meaning was pretty obvious, that as whole, Southern States receive more in federal subsidies than the rest of the country, which you know is true, thus your dancing around it with semantics.

No, not more. More compared to their income taxes paid out. That is not the same as getting more. In 2006, Iowa, Illinois and Texas received the greatest amount of farm subsidies, yet Texas and Illinois are in the clear on differential.

It's a bit of cherry picking stats to say that such and such paid in more and got less, because the state may have 8x the population and still get the lions share of subsidies in raw numbers.

[DMC]

So is this about Democrat vs. Republican or not?

If it's not, it has to be about geography and I don't know how geography figures into anything. How can the states themselves (the land) have anything to do with it?

Also, aren't the bank buyouts and automaker rescues considered taxpayer subsidies?

Regardless, my original point was that all states receive subsidies, which they do.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No, not more. More compared to their income taxes paid out.
So they received more of a net subsidy than other states. The fact they paid a lower amount of income taxes is an indictment of their productivity.


That is not the same as getting more. In 2006, Iowa, Illinois and Texas received the greatest amount of farm subsidies, yet Texas and Illinois are in the clear on differential.
Right, because they paid enough in income taxes.


It's a bit of cherry picking stats to say that such and such paid in more and got less, because the state may have 8x the population and still get the lions share of subsidies in raw numbers.
What would be cherry picking is looking at gross subsidies without factoring in taxes paid. The stat is factoring in all subsidies like welfare, medicaid, etc.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Regardless, my original point was that all states receive subsidies, which they do.

Which had nothing to do with what I originally said. My original point was that the states bitching about the federal government the most (Southern States) are the states that come the furthest from covering the subsidies they receive with the taxes they pay, so they're bitching about the federal government they depend on much more than other states.

I don't dispute that ALL states do receive subsidies one way or another.

[DMC]

So they received more of a net subsidy than other states. The fact they paid a lower amount of income taxes is an indictment of their productivity.

No it's not, since productivity isn't taxable. It's an indictment of their lower wages.


Right, because they paid enough in income taxes.

Some did, some did not. Those who paid in likely did not get subsidies. Again, there's no "net" when it comes to subsidies, other than the misleading stat of comparative nets. Individuals pay in (as do corporations) and individuals receive subsidies (as do corporations). States do neither unless you consider education assistance to be a subsidy.


What would be cherry picking is looking at gross subsidies without factoring in taxes paid. The stat is factoring in all subsidies like welfare, medicaid, etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/12/01/us/government-incentives.html

This is an interesting interactive website. You can see which states get which subsidies, and most of the subsidies are not farm or welfare related, but corporate tax breaks and property tax abatement.

[DMC]

Which had nothing to do with what I originally said. My original point was that the states bitching about the federal government the most (Southern States) are the states that come the furthest from covering the subsidies they receive with the taxes they pay, so they're bitching about the federal government they depend on much more than other states.

I don't dispute that ALL states do receive subsidies one way or another.
States don't bitch, people do. I don't know why you're drawing geographical borders on bitching. Are they Dems or Republicans? It always goes back to a political stance.

Regardless, the government doesn't do shit but redistribute our money. Bitching at them isn't biting the hand that feeds you, as you seem to imply.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Also important to note that those receiving the subsidies are by and large Democratic voters (if they vote at all). Southern farmers are historically Democrats. Minorities vote democratic as well. Military spending, imo, is not a subsidy.

:lol

Let's just make up shit and posture like it's true.

If you mean historically as in 1895 then you have a point. Maybe even 1965 but southern farmers today are not voting democrat unless they have some pigmentation.

The largest 'subsidy' is medicare and we all know who gets that and how they vote. Acting like the money paid out to states is only food stamps, AFDC and WIC is fun I guess.

As for military spending not being subsidies then you are being at best naive. Go to northern virginia, places like SA or anywhere else there is a large military or military contractor presence and tell me that those communities are not 'subsidized' by military spending.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Regardless, the government doesn't do shit but redistribute our money.

:lol

and the hits keep on coming.

[DMC]

:lol

Let's just make up shit and posture like it's true.

If you mean historically as in 1895 then you have a point. Maybe even 1965 but southern farmers today are not voting democrat unless they have some pigmentation.

The largest 'subsidy' is medicare and we all know who gets that and how they vote. Acting like the money paid out to states is only food stamps, AFDC and WIC is fun I guess.

As for military spending not being subsidies then you are being at best naive. Go to northern virginia, places like SA or anywhere else there is a large military or military contractor presence and tell me that those communities are not 'subsidized' by military spending.
There's a difference between where the military spends its money for its goods and giving money away to make up for a loss of revenue. How do you put a number to the amount that the military boosts the local economy? You cannot just use how much they spend to run the base. That's defense spending. It's no different than saying a hospital subsidizes a community because the community thrives by supporting it, or that Dell subsidizes Round Rock because Round Rock would suffer if Dell left. There's a difference between a symbiotic relationship and a subsidy.

[DMC]

:lol

and the hits keep on coming.

In terms of "subsidizing". It's not biting the hand that feeds you to bitch at the federal government since they aren't financing anything.

What's hard to understand about that or do you just prefer to operate with a stick up your ass?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Bitching at them isn't biting the hand that feeds you, as you seem to imply.

When you're a bible thumper in Mississippi who doesn't have two nickels to rub together and needs food stamps to survive, yeah, it completely is.

[Wild Cobra]

Also important to note that those receiving the subsidies are by and large Democratic voters (if they vote at all). Southern farmers are historically Democrats. Minorities vote democratic as well. Military spending, imo, is not a subsidy.
I don't know how it pans out for all 50 states, but part of the disparity is because of the various costs of living and wages. New Jersey, for example, getting the least revenue back, also is in the ranking at, or near the top of per capita income. This does two things. On average, the citizens are in higher marginal tax brackets for federal taxes, and less qualify for government assistance. I'll bet that holds true for a pretty large number of states receiving less than they pay out, and the opposite for states that take in more than they send to DC.

[DMC]

When you're a bible thumper in Mississippi who doesn't have two nickels to rub together and needs food stamps to survive, yeah, it completely is.

No, it's not. The federal government does not give out money. They only redistribute it. You've made that point above and are now ignoring it for the sake of your argument. I hate the freeloading faggots as much as anyone, but I also detest the notion that the feds give out money as if they are somehow a profitable entity.

[DMC]

I don't know how it pans out for all 50 states, but part of the disparity is because of the various costs of living and wages. New Jersey, for example, getting the least revenue back, also is in the ranking at, or near the top of per capita income. This does two things. On average, the citizens are in higher marginal tax brackets for federal taxes, and less qualify for government assistance. I'll bet that holds true for a pretty large number of states receiving less than they pay out, and the opposite for states that take in more than they send to DC.

I'm pretty sure that's well understood and at the center of DoK's point.

[Wild Cobra]

Obvious trap post is obvious.
So obvious you had to say obvious twice?

[Wild Cobra]

What are you calling an 'assault' rifle ?
Well, this thread isn't about assault weapons...

Look up "assault rifle."

[Latarian Milton]

My post was edited to include the part about Texas. The fact you're harping on the fact I edited my post says something about your actual argument.

Please link me to something that corroborates anything you just said about what the government does with agriculture. I'm anxious to find out where you learned what you just said about the government regulating agriculture.

peasants have been fleeced by the government, that's not even news nor any surprise imho. most agricultural goods are sold dust cheap compared to industrial products and those are the harvest of a year's hardwork by those farmers. rednecks just don't know that they should make up a union to protect themselves from being exploited by the bankers-owned government imho. farmers have something in common with the crops grown in the farmland, they're both at the bottom of the food chain

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm pretty sure that's well understood and at the center of DoK's point.

:lol exactly what I thought when I read WC's post

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No, it's not. The federal government does not give out money. They only redistribute it. You've made that point above and are now ignoring it for the sake of your argument. I hate the freeloading faggots as much as anyone, but I also detest the notion that the feds give out money as if they are somehow a profitable entity.
At this point you're simply playing semantics ignoring what my point was.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

peasants have been fleeced by the government, that's not even news nor any surprise imho. most agricultural goods are sold dust cheap compared to industrial products and those are the harvest of a year's hardwork by those farmers. rednecks just don't know that they should make up a union to protect themselves from being exploited by the bankers-owned government imho. farmers have something in common with the crops grown in the farmland, they're both at the bottom of the food chain
I guess you're also someone who thinks the government does pretty much the opposite of what it actually does with agricultural commodities.

[LnGrrrR]

So obvious you had to say obvious twice?

It's an Internet meme. I'll forgive you for not knowing. :)

[DMC]

At this point you're simply playing semantics ignoring what my point was.

Just like with the gun debate, semantics are important. If you continue to misuse them the terms become part of the vernacular of the discussion, which puts people automatically at odds. If people continue to call all military "style" rifles "assault rifles" they have now created a new category for semi-auto rifles and it will continue to be misused in such a fashion. When you point out to them that assault rifles are fully automatic and heavily regulated, banned already, they scoff and say "you're just playing semantics".

If you don't contribute, you have no room to complain. However, just because your state, as an average, gets back more than it contributes in income taxes doesn't mean you have no room to complain to the federal government since the federal government isn't the entity who pays you anyhow. I don't understand how that's an issue with semantics.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

However, just because your state, as an average, gets back more than it contributes in income taxes doesn't mean you have no room to complain to the federal government since the federal government isn't the entity who pays you anyhow.
You're right, but that's not contrary to anything I'm saying. The fact your state gets back more than it contributes DOES mean you're really fuckin retarded if you think your state should secede from the union and would be better off without the federal government.

[DMC]

You're right, but that's not contrary to anything I'm saying. The fact your state gets back more than it contributes DOES mean you're really fuckin retarded if you think your state should secede from the union and would be better off without the federal government.
There's not a state in the union that could secede and remain viable. Even Texas would struggle. Secession would so change the dynamics of your business culture that you could not even project your future revenues, regardless how well or poorly you're currently doing.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

There's not a state in the union that could secede and remain viable. Even Texas would struggle. Secession would so change the dynamics of your business culture that you could not even project your future revenues, regardless how well or poorly you're currently doing.

So you agree it's retarded. I agree any of the 50 states would suffer if they were to secede, I just find it particularly ironic and dumb where the "Secede!" stuff is coming from.

[DMC]

So you agree it's retarded. I agree any of the 50 states would suffer if they were to secede, I just find it particularly ironic and dumb where the "Secede!" stuff is coming from.

That's the other side of the "I'm moving to Canada" coin. Anytime their side loses, yellow dogs or neocons freak the fuck out and threaten extreme measures. None of them do any of it, and at the end of the day they have dinner together and laugh about the working man who's paying for it all.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

"I'm moving to Canada if that socialist Kenyan tries to pass a universal healthcare plan!"

[DMC]

"I'm moving to Canada if that socialist Kenyan tries to pass a universal healthcare plan!"

Or more famously Arec Barwin.

[mingus]

The South is anxious to revolt against the big mean federal government that subsidizes every Southern State every year with urban tax dollars :lol

They may get more in subsidies but that does not mean they are warranted subsidies. Plus, the mere fact that those states are being subsidized more does not mean its unjustified that they having beef with the way the federal government regulates iTs spending in specific ways and violates their freedom in specific ways.

[Latarian Milton]

would rather move to mexico than live in a commie state that the kenyan n!gger is gonna turn the US into tbh

[spursncowboys]

Can someone define what an assault rifle is for me

[DMC]

Can someone define what an assault rifle is for me

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=assault+rifle


An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=assault+rifle)rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle) that uses an intermediate cartridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge) and a detachable magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_%28firearms%29). It is not to be confused with assault weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle#cite_note-1)
(http://lmgtfy.com/?q=assault+rifle)

[DMC]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57559416/assault-rifle-used-during-sandy-hook-massacre/

Liberal news media gets it wrong all the time, and liberals parrot the shit. It makes them seem so idiotic when they call for a ban on assault rifles.

[spursncowboys]

Ok. Well that is illegal in texas. In Texas that is defined as a machine gun. I posted the penal code in it's own post.

[DMC]

Ok. Well that is illegal in texas. In Texas that is defined as a machine gun. I posted the penal code in it's own post.

It's not illegal in Texas to own an assault rifle.

The definition is not state dependent. An assault rifle is an assault rifle.

[spursncowboys]

An AR 15 is not a machine gun. The m4 or m16 that I use in the military has a burst switch that shoots three rounds everytime you pull the trigger. In my 15 month and 12 month deployments, I have never seen anyone use that selection. We always had it on semi which allowed us to shoot as fast as we can pull the trigger.

[spursncowboys]

It's not illegal in Texas to own an assault rifle.
Penal code states otherwise. Under your definition of what this made up "assault rifle" is.

[DMC]

An AR 15 is not a machine gun. The m4 or m16 that I use in the military has a burst switch that shoots three rounds everytime you pull the trigger. In my 15 month and 12 month deployments, I have never seen anyone use that selection. We always had it on semi which allowed us to shoot as fast as we can pull the trigger.

It's a misnomer by the "we don't need to know facts before we speak" crowd.

[spursncowboys]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=assault+rifle


An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=assault+rifle)rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle) that uses an intermediate cartridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge) and a detachable magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_%28firearms%29). It is not to be confused with assault weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle#cite_note-1)
(http://lmgtfy.com/?q=assault+rifle)
Holy shit. You used lmgtfy and then picked wikipedia. :lmao

[DMC]

Penal code states otherwise. Under your definition of what this made up "assault rifle" is.

An assault rifle can be owned, it's an NFA weapon and you are required to pay a 200 dollar tax stamp. The chief LEO in your area will have to sign of on it. Usually not an issue in most counties. The weapon must be transferable, preban (pre 1986) and be registered (the sear). I have a few.

[DMC]

Holy shit. You used lmgtfy and then picked wikipedia. :lmao

Yeah, the first option in Google.

[spursncowboys]

Yeah, the first option in Google.
Yeah. Damn wikipedia.

[spursncowboys]

It's a misnomer by the "we don't need to know facts before we speak" crowd.
:toast

[LnGrrrR]

An AR 15 is not a machine gun. The m4 or m16 that I use in the military has a burst switch that shoots three rounds everytime you pull the trigger. In my 15 month and 12 month deployments, I have never seen anyone use that selection. We always had it on semi which allowed us to shoot as fast as we can pull the trigger.

You know, I don't spend a lot of time outside the wire but I always wonder... do US military forces ever use the 3 round burst? :lol

[Wild Cobra]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57559416/assault-rifle-used-during-sandy-hook-massacre/

Liberal news media gets it wrong all the time, and liberals parrot the shit. It makes them seem so idiotic when they call for a ban on assault rifles.
Hence, this link thread.

[Wild Cobra]

Holy shit. You used lmgtfy and then picked wikipedia. :lmao
When wiki is right, why not?

Any legitimate site you find will have a similar definition.

[Wild Cobra]

The restriction I placed in the OP are some of the current restrictions as I remember then for owning an assault rifle.

[mavs>spurs]

These pussies ain't restricting SHIT!!!!!! the real niggas have spoken..us true Texan big dick mothafucka's ain't rollin over like the rest of you liberal chumps..we'll hold down the fort while you pussies attempt to fuck yourselves with the long dick of the federal government :toast

[DMC]

Hence, this link.

Eh?

[DMC]

The restriction I placed in the OP are some of the current restrictions as I remember then for owning an assault rifle.

When have you owned an assault rifle?

[Wild Cobra]

When have you owned an assault rifle?
I haven't. Have you looked this up? It's not like owning a regular weapon.

[scott]

I haven't. Have you looked this up? It's not like owning a regular weapon.

Have you looked this up? Beyond just "as you remember"?

[DMC]

I haven't. Have you looked this up? It's not like owning a regular weapon.

Looked it up? I own a few assault rifles. You said "as I remember them for owning an assault rifle". You make it sound as if you've owned some. It's like me saying "from what I remember of SEAL training" when I wasn't a SEAL.

[Wild Cobra]

Eh?
I'm sorry.

I meant thread instead of link.

Edited other post.

[Wild Cobra]

When have you owned an assault rifle?
My words don't say I did. I never had. I have used assault rifles, but never owned one.

[Wild Cobra]

Have you looked this up? Beyond just "as you remember"?
Do you know what the requirements and stipulations are for legally owning a full automatic rifle?

It doesn't appear so. I'm pretty sure my memory is correct on this, but some things do vary by state, and its only legal to own an automatic weapon in about 3/4s of the states.

[Wild Cobra]

Looked it up? I own a few assault rifles. You said "as I remember them for owning an assault rifle". You make it sound as if you've owned some. It's like me saying "from what I remember of SEAL training" when I wasn't a SEAL.
You own some full automatic weapons legally?

Good for you. What did I say that's wrong?

[DMC]

You own some full automatic weapons legally?

Good for you. What did I say that's wrong?

nevermind

[PublicOption]

Inspect all insecure white men for little peckers before they buy any gun.

[mavs>spurs]

the penis myth only exists in dumbed down america..it's virtually nonexistant in european countries who have the biggest dicks in the world and would laugh their asses off and slap you in the face with their big white salami's for even saying such a stupid thing. might be due to circumcision in america if there is any truth there, but as far as genetics go it's false. how many white peckers are you familiar with publicoption? the problem is the media, the liberals, and the overall decay of this society. american's need to move forward, we're culturally, spiritually, and ethically among the poorest in the world. bunch of selfish, arrogant, superficial mindless assholes who contribute nothing to the world. but if we lose our gun rights, things will get even worse as big brother will be free to take up up a notch. but you probably don't realize that as the typical stupid american who knows nothing about history and what always follows disarmament.

[spursncowboys]

the penis myth only exists in dumbed down america..it's virtually nonexistant in european countries who have the biggest dicks in the world and would laugh their asses off and slap you in the face with their big white salami's for even saying such a stupid thing. might be due to circumcision in america if there is any truth there, but as far as genetics go it's false. how many white peckers are you familiar with publicoption? the problem is the media, the liberals, and the overall decay of this society. american's need to move forward, we're culturally, spiritually, and ethically among the poorest in the world. bunch of selfish, arrogant, superficial mindless assholes who contribute nothing to the world. but if we lose our gun rights, things will get even worse as big brother will be free to take up up a notch. but you probably don't realize that as the typical stupid american who knows nothing about history and what always follows disarmament.

Analyze alot of men?

[mavs>spurs]

Statistics..if he wants to disagree then it must be because if his personal experiences

[FuzzyLumpkins]

m>s postures about being alpha while being a blatant beta minion and likes talking and looking up stats about penis. what does that tell you?

[mavs>spurs]

i know everything fuzzy..if it exists i've probably already heard about it. the sooner you figure this out the better off your posting experience will be.

[Wild Cobra]

i know everything fuzzy..if it exists i've probably already heard about it. the sooner you figure this out the better off your posting experience will be.
Trying to throw The Fuzzy Troll off by taking his position?

[Blake]

I'm pretty sure my memory is correct on this....

Never gets old

[CosmicCowboy]

Never gets old

I was wondering when he was gonna get called on that one. Can't believe it lasted a day.

[boutons_deux]

tee-shirts for the bubba market

http://www.motherjones.com/files/ar15_asshole_remover_ringer_t.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/files/2_480x480_Front_Color-White.jpg

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http://www.motherjones.com/files/hand_gun_bullet_infant_bodysuit_0.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/files/9_out_of_10_voices_black_tshirt_0.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/files/missed_you_dark_tshirt_0.jpg


http://www.motherjones.com/files/raise_your_right_hand_yellow_tshirt.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/files/i_will_shoot_your_sorry_ass_light_tshirt.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/files/227AVLG1_0.jpg


http://www.motherjones.com/files/happiness_is_a_warm_gun_dark_tshirt.jpg

dickless gun fetishists just representin. :lol

[DMC]

Keep jousting windmills Douche, you're on a whole other realm of reality.

[DMC]

I was wondering when he was gonna get called on that one. Can't believe it lasted a day.

Scott and I both called him out on the 1st page.

[boutons_deux]

take your bitch slappig like a little bitch, DMC

[spursncowboys]

Which had nothing to do with what I originally said. My original point was that the states bitching about the federal government the most (Southern States) are the states that come the furthest from covering the subsidies they receive with the taxes they pay, so they're bitching about the federal government they depend on much more than other states.

I don't dispute that ALL states do receive subsidies one way or another.With COL lower in the south and more people below taxable level income it would make sense. I doubt every person in the south bitches about govt. craddle to grave support. JMO however

[DMC]

take your bitch slappig like a little bitch, DMC

lol you remind me of those dudes in ACIII that chase you after you punch the shit out of them.

[boutons_deux]

lol you remind me of those dudes in ACIII that chase you after you punch the shit out of them.

you punch the shit out of nobody, dickless

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i know everything about penis, fuzzy..if it exists i've probably already heard about it. the sooner you figure this out the better off your posting experience will be.

fify

[DMC]

you punch the shit out of nobody, dickless

You're so disconnected from reality you cannot even find it with a GPS and a compass.

[Spurminator]

Let's be honest, even if they did outlaw assault rifles, middle class suburban or rural white families will need to be about as worried about enforcement as they are about the enforcement of marijuana possession laws on them.

[DMC]

Let's be honest, even if they did outlaw assault rifles, middle class suburban or rural white families will need to be about as worried about enforcement as they are about the enforcement of marijuana possession laws on them.

Assault rifles are heavily regulated now, and banned in some states already. I think you mean assault weapons.

[Spurminator]

I mean pretty much any weapon that conservatives are paranoid about the government coming to take.

[DMC]

I mean pretty much any weapon that conservatives are paranoid about the government coming to take.
The point of the thread is to make fun of how the ignorant can't resist saying "assault rifle" instead of "assault weapon".

I don't think conservatives are paranoid about anyone taking them. They are seeing this as an opportunity to make some serious dough. If they were worried about losing them they wouldn't be buying them in droves. I saw a dude last week buy 15 AR-15s in a gun store in one purchase. He was likely going to sell them for more due to the grab that's going on.

Gun shops love these things, chaching. There will be 20% more guns in circulation after this settles than there currently are, just as happened with the Brady bill and the bulk purchases of powder and reloading supplies, extended mags and such.

Reno -- A customer inside Mark Hessler (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=nation&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Mark+Hessler%22)'s crowded gun shop in Reno pointed to the few remaining AR-15 rifles on a display wall and asked Hessler if he'd sent President Obama (http://www.sfgate.com/barack-obama/) a thank-you card for hinting at a ban on assault weapons.
Hessler almost had to shout over the din of bustling salesmen, credit cards snapping on glass countertops and cash registers that spat out receipts.
"Obama is the best gun salesman since Bill Clinton (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=nation&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Bill+Clinton%22)," Hessler said, drawing laughs from his audience. "Every time a liberal opens his mouth and says something stupid about guns, I sell a gazillion of them."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Gun-sales-booming-in-Nevada-4141349.php#ixzz2GDzYETbV

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think conservatives are paranoid about anyone taking them. They are seeing this as an opportunity to make some serious dough. If they were worried about losing them they wouldn't be buying them in droves.There is at least an apprehension that those weapons will no longer be available to purchase at some point. Conservatives are spending serious dough because of that.

[Wild Cobra]

There is at least an apprehension that those weapons will no longer be available to purchase at some point. Conservatives are spending serious dough because of that.
Isn't that what DMC said? Can't you read between the lines?

When you can no longer buy them in a store... When Supply is limited... What happens to the price that someone is willing to pay...

[CosmicCowboy]

There is at least an apprehension that those weapons will no longer be available to purchase at some point. Conservatives are spending serious dough because of that.

At least the dumb ones are. Generic AR-15's that sold for $800 a couple of weeks ago are being offered at twice that now on resales.

This shit is not gonna pass and the prices will come back down. There is too much on Obama's plate and congress's plate to prioritize new gun control legislation which will alienate at least half the population.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm definitely buying an accurized AR-10 when the prices come back down.

[CosmicCowboy]

Gun control is one of those issues where the feelings/emotions are much stronger on one side than the other. You can be for gun control intellectually and might even go to the trouble to defend your position on an internet political forum but trust me...you don't feel as strongly about it as gun owners who feel their rights are being threatened. If Obama is stupid enough to try to push this through the dems will get slaughtered in two years at the polls when they aren't riding big O's voter turnout coattails.

[Bender]

got my ar15 just in time... two weeks before the school shooting... $802

[DMC]

There is at least an apprehension that those weapons will no longer be available to purchase at some point. Conservatives are spending serious dough because of that.

No, you're wrong. No one wants 15 ARs they cannot sell. There's apprehension they will become more expensive to purchase, not through legislation but through rumor. No one would touch them for their price if they would get stuck with them. It's the hoopla surrounding them that makes them a hot item. Those who want just one will pay much more because they fear a lock out. Those buying them in droves know better.

And lol if you think only conservatives own or like guns. I know several Dems who own ARs.

[Th'Pusher]

:lol At morons dumping their life savings into AR15s as an investment. It's just as good as buying gold!

[Spurminator]

The point of the thread is to make fun of how the ignorant can't resist saying "assault rifle" instead of "assault weapon".

I'll take your word for it, I didn't read most of it. I had a thought and this looked like the most relevant thread for it.



I don't think conservatives are paranoid about anyone taking them. They are seeing this as an opportunity to make some serious dough. If they were worried about losing them they wouldn't be buying them in droves. I saw a dude last week buy 15 AR-15s in a gun store in one purchase. He was likely going to sell them for more due to the grab that's going on.

Gun shops love these things, chaching. There will be 20% more guns in circulation after this settles than there currently are, just as happened with the Brady bill and the bulk purchases of powder and reloading supplies, extended mags and such.

Reno -- A customer inside Mark Hessler (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=nation&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Mark+Hessler%22)'s crowded gun shop in Reno pointed to the few remaining AR-15 rifles on a display wall and asked Hessler if he'd sent President Obama (http://www.sfgate.com/barack-obama/) a thank-you card for hinting at a ban on assault weapons.
Hessler almost had to shout over the din of bustling salesmen, credit cards snapping on glass countertops and cash registers that spat out receipts.
"Obama is the best gun salesman since Bill Clinton (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=nation&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Bill+Clinton%22)," Hessler said, drawing laughs from his audience. "Every time a liberal opens his mouth and says something stupid about guns, I sell a gazillion of them."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Gun-sales-booming-in-Nevada-4141349.php#ixzz2GDzYETbV



Oh I think plenty of people are paranoid about having their guns taken, but I agree this stuff is great for gun sales. I think for a good number of people, they're purchasing more guns as part of some fantasy where black vans show up at their compound and they get to heroically fight them off in an orgy of gunfire. For others, yeah, they get that they probably won't have their guns taken but they may have a harder time getting new ones.

[LnGrrrR]

Oh I think plenty of people are paranoid about having their guns taken, but I agree this stuff is great for gun sales. I think for a good number of people, they're purchasing more guns as part of some fantasy where black vans show up at their compound and they get to heroically fight them off in an orgy of gunfire.

Maybe they're just worried about the Tremors...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcsLaSBWG9k

:lol all the weapons on their wall happen to be loaded
:lol one token "hold my hands over my ears so I won't go deaf" 2 minutes into the shooting

Still an awesomely cheesy movie.

[leemajors]

Feinstein to introduce this:

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons


Summary of 2013 legislation

Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans
Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons
Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe they're just worried about the Tremors...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcsLaSBWG9k

:lol all the weapons on their wall happen to be loaded
:lol one token "hold my hands over my ears so I won't go deaf" 2 minutes into the shooting

Still an awesomely cheesy movie.

:lmao Holy shit! Never seen that before! Fucking awesome!

I especially liked how he got the "big gun" out but held it under his armpit when he shot it. In the real world he would have gotten a bloody nose from the recoil holding it like that.

[CosmicCowboy]

No way that dried up bitches bill even gets out of committee.

[Th'Pusher]

Feinstein to introduce this:

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
This has just as many loopholes as the '94 ban. Wildly ineffective waste of time.

[DMC]

lol@thumbhole stocks. Fast cars kill people. Many fast cars are red. Ban red. How does a thumbhole stock make a weapon more effective or dangerous? They are primarily used on benchrest guns way too heavy to lug around, and predominately bolt action, one round loaded at a time, weapons.

That bill would do absolutely nothing in terms of effective gun control. What a stupid bitch.

But I've stated since day 1 that no effective measures will take place, because too many people own firearms for the Dems to piss off their supporters. Libs cannot get the bills out of committee, because they've been neutered. A real motherfucker would just say "ban all guns for public use, hunting or otherwise" and let the chips fall where they may.

[The Reckoning]

youve never seen tremors? wtf?

[leemajors]

It's one of Michael Gross' finest roles tbh

[DMC]

The thumbhole stock:

http://www.vandykerifles.com/images/338-foldingstock2.jpg

What a dangerous weapon, easy to conceal and sneak into a school. A regular stock would make it so much safer.

[Th'Pusher]

The thumbhole stock:

http://www.vandykerifles.com/images/338-foldingstock2.jpg

What a dangerous weapon, easy to conceal and sneak into a school. A regular stock would make it so much safer.
Is there any question that the dude holding this gun has an extremely small penis?

[cantthinkofanything]

The thumbhole stock:

http://www.vandykerifles.com/images/338-foldingstock2.jpg

What a dangerous weapon, easy to conceal and sneak into a school. A regular stock would make it so much safer.

Fuck. I'm more worried about the black add-on accessories. Looks like he's got some rubber bands wrapped around the buttstock. Not to mention the black mounting system on the barrel. Probably for a grenade launcher or some kind of laser scope.

[DMC]

Fuck. I'm more worried about the black add-on accessories. Looks like he's got some rubber bands wrapped around the buttstock. Not to mention the black mounting system on the barrel. Probably for a grenade launcher or some kind of laser scope.

The Weaver rail up front is for a thermal imaging or NV scope. The US Optics (or NF or S&B) scope scares me, that long sun visor is a show stopper.

[cantthinkofanything]

The Weaver rail up front is for a thermal imaging or NV scope. The US Optics (or NF or S&B) scope scares me, that long sun visor is a show stopper.

yep. I see the same thing you do. BTW, that visor is detachable. He could easily keep it in his pocket when smuggling the gun around.

[CosmicCowboy]

That's a bad ass little toy there. 338 Lapua?

[DMC]

yep. I see the same thing you do. BTW, that visor is detachable. He could easily keep it in his pocket when smuggling the gun around.

He could put it on his wrist and use it like a Wonderwoman bracelet, deflecting incoming rounds.

[cantthinkofanything]

On a serious note, I can't believe that anyone with an open mind doesn't recognize that this (Feinstein's list) has more to do with an attack on rights than protecting anyone.

[DMC]

On a serious note, I can't believe that anyone with an open mind doesn't recognize that this (Feinstein's list) has more to do with an attack on rights than protecting anyone.

I does neither. It's placebo legislation to make the gun ignorant (libs) feel they've gotten a victory.

[CosmicCowboy]

The Weaver rail up front is for a thermal imaging or NV scope. The US Optics (or NF or S&B) scope scares me, that long sun visor is a show stopper.

That's a nightforce scope.

[cantthinkofanything]

I does neither. It's placebo legislation to make the gun ignorant (libs) feel they've gotten a victory.

It's pointless.

And when I say and attack on rights, I'm not limiting it to the 2nd Amendment.

[ErnestLynch]

How many people in the US do you think know how to make an IED type weapons ? Hundreds...thousands ? Government ain't doing shit. They bust this thing loose they'll rue the day they let that cat out of the bag. Guaranteed sons. There are thousands of Tim McVeighs out there.

[ChumpDumper]

No, you're wrong. No one wants 15 ARs they cannot sell. There's apprehension they will become more expensive to purchase, not through legislation but through rumor. No one would touch them for their price if they would get stuck with them. It's the hoopla surrounding them that makes them a hot item. Those who want just one will pay much more because they fear a lock out. Those buying them in droves know better.

And lol if you think only conservatives own or like guns. I know several Dems who own ARs.No, I'm right. Some conservatives will make money knowing other conservatives will spend more money later. Sure, that's not limited to conservatives, but we were talking about conservatives. If no one was going to buy the weapons later, buying the weapons as an investment would be stupid, and those who are buying the weapons now would be the ones paying the most for the weapons.

[LnGrrrR]

How many people in the US do you think know how to make an IED type weapons ? Hundreds...thousands ? Government ain't doing shit. They bust this thing loose they'll rue the day they let that cat out of the bag. Guaranteed sons. There are thousands of Tim McVeighs out there.

Actually, I was reading about this the other day, and after the OKC bombing, Congress pushed through laws in order to prevent the accumulation of that much fertilizer without proper steps. So it does look like they closed that one particular loophole. (There are many other ways to cause a big boom though.)

[Wild Cobra]

And lol if you think only conservatives own or like guns. I know several Dems who own ARs.
Are they like that old Baptist joke? The one where if you invite one over for Dinner, you have to invite another, so they won't drink up everything in the house?

[Wild Cobra]

This has just as many loopholes as the '94 ban. Wildly ineffective waste of time.
Typical democrat legislation. Allow the librard voter to think they are making good legislation, while not doing anything effective.

[DMC]

Are they like that old Baptist joke? The one where if you invite one over for Dinner, you have to invite another, so they won't drink up everything in the house?

No, the Dems I grew up around were avid hunters. They never looked at a firearm like anything but a tool. I'd never met a liberal until I moved to Austin.

[mavs>spurs]

Is there any question that the dude holding this gun has an extremely small penis?
i never knew you were a nigg3r boy, now it sure is obvious typical dumb coon insecure so he has to lie and pretend b-b-b-ut wee wee's :cry dumb bitch you shouldn't been aborted like all the other black \babies you stupid fucking race of people

[Th'Pusher]

i never knew you were a nigg3r boy, now it sure is obvious typical dumb coon insecure so he has to lie and pretend b-b-b-ut wee wee's :cry dumb bitch you shouldn't been aborted like all the other black \babies you stupid fucking race of people
Do you know how I can join RBFCU?

[DMC]

Do you know how I can join RBFCU?

The Real Brothers Forum Crime Unit? I think you have to be a real brother first, then have a degree.

[mavs>spurs]

nothing will change the fact that after all this time come to find out you're a n!gger and i am better than you simply by default. i don't even want to talk to you anymore scum, you are beneath me begone.

[Th'Pusher]

nothing will change the fact that after all this time come to find out you're a n!gger and i am better than you simply by default. i don't even want to talk to you anymore scum, you are beneath me begone.

I think I should call them. I'm not in the service though. Neither are any of my immediate family members. I really want t hem to let me in.

[Shastafarian]

nothing will change the fact that after all this time come to find out you're a n!gger and i am better than you simply by default. i don't even want to talk to you anymore scum, you are beneath me begone.What if he still has his dickskin though? Then he's above you right?

[DMC]

What if he still has his dickskin though? Then he's above you right?

You'd probably know.

[Shastafarian]

You'd probably know.

I hope you shoot guns better than you insult people.

[DMC]

I hope you shoot guns better than you insult people.

I shoot targets, not guns.

[Shastafarian]

I have to say something divisive so I feel smart

I know. Everyone knows.

[DMC]

I am relegated to being a child speaking during an adult conversation, and being repeatedly corrected.

[Shastafarian]

I wish I could have an adult conversation. Only you resort to "I'm not here to teach you" and starting threads asking what's dangerous about a gun. You're a racist and a gun fanatic and you use legitimate research to further your idiotic views. Not sure that makes me the child in this.

[Shastafarian]

Better stock up on all those penis-extensions while you can btw. Nothing like having a president with nothing to lose in the white house to take away yer guns.

[Latarian Milton]

you shoot targets with what? a catapult or your 2-inch asian dick?

[DMC]

I wish I could have an adult conversation. Only you resort to "I'm not here to teach you" and starting threads asking what's dangerous about a gun. You're a racist and a gun fanatic and you use legitimate research to further your idiotic views. Not sure that makes me the child in this.

That which we deem children (in some countries they are called other things) react in a similar fashion as you.

[DMC]

Better stock up on all those penis-extensions while you can btw. Nothing like having a president with nothing to lose in the white house to take away yer guns.

That's been said for how long now? I've never had a gun taken away and even carry one around legally.

[Shastafarian]

Good for you! Hopefully you'll actually need it some day.

[Latarian Milton]

a strict rescriction on guns will only affect people who own their guns legally and who will probably never fire their guns through their life times while the thugs who use guns to commit crimes ain't gonna give a shit about whatever the law says, which in the end will only sap down people's abilities to protect themselves and leave them more vulnerable to gun crimes

[Wild Cobra]

No, the Dems I grew up around were avid hunters. They never looked at a firearm like anything but a tool. I'd never met a liberal until I moved to Austin.
Sure, but did they talk about guns around democrats in general? Would they pretend around other democrats to be in favor of more gun control legislation?

[DMC]

Sure, but did they talk about guns around democrats in general? Would they pretend around other democrats to be in favor of more gun control legislation?

No one talked about gun legislation. If we talked about guns it was to compare models. We weren't fixated on guns, didn't consider military applications, just hunting. Shotguns were like sports cars, deer rifles were rarely even brought out of the glass display cases but when new hunters visited, everyone wanted to see everything.

It wasn't like it is today where you have such diametrically opposed viewpoints, the extremes of each being totally disconnected from what we considered reality.

[LnGrrrR]

Sure, but did they talk about guns around democrats in general? Would they pretend around other democrats to be in favor of more gun control legislation?

You live in a very small world WC. :lol

[Wild Cobra]

You live in a very small world WC. :lol
If you say so. I think my point stands.