Nets fire AJ

[lefty]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) The Brooklyn Nets have fired coach Avery Johnson, league source tells Yahoo! Sports.

[lefty]

Since I was the 1st to post it



Bump

[Killakobe81]

Wow. I guess Avery gets no love ...
Well we would love to welcome him to L.A. as our defensive co-ordinator (similar to Mike Woodson).

LOL at all the Dwight may still go to BKN ...makes no sense. If he doesnt re-sign ATL and DAL would make some sense.

[Killakobe81]

I havent seen a bunch of Nets games since we played them ... I know Dwill has been up and down and Lopez was banged up ....plus I heard he benched that cuckold Humphries ...but what has HAPPENED to them?

[lefty]

I knew this was coming


Management overreacting to a loss on national TV on X-mas day


"Embarrassed" :cry

[djohn2oo8]

D-Will using the Kobe System

[Killakobe81]

D-Will using the Kobe System

Funny but Dwill actually using the Dwill system saw a tweet befoe this post with a player calling it a Sloan like situation. Dont think Dwill needs the "kobe system" he is actually quite good at this ...

[djohn2oo8]

Mike Mazzeo (http://twitter.com/MazzESPN) @MazzESPN (http://twitter.com/MazzESPN) 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/MazzESPN/statuses/284360773147443200)
Per @Chris Broussard (http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) #Nets (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Nets) name PJ Carlisemo interim coach

[djohn2oo8]

David Locke (http://twitter.com/Lockedonsports) @Lockedonsports (http://twitter.com/Lockedonsports) 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Lockedonsports/statuses/284360733859393536)
Here is your wild thought of the day would Nets hire Jerry Sloan? Would Deron be welcoming?

:lol

[baseline bum]

Nets should hold out a week or two for D'Antoni.

[Killakobe81]

Nets should hold out a week or two for D'Antoni.

Man, Bum you on fire.

2 questions how do the Bruins do vs. Baylor and have you seen much of our Bball team is Muhammed the real deal?

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe Prokhorov will throw the bank at Phil Jackson?

[Basketballgirl25]

I don't know how I like this. You could tell something wasn't right with the team, but I don't know that there is that great of coach out there right now. Guess we shall see

[lefty]

Maybe Prokhorov will throw the bank at Phil Jackson?

that would be awesome :lol


Phil joining the Nets after ignoring the Knicks so many times :lol

[Killakobe81]

I don't know how I like this. You could tell something wasn't right with the team, but I don't know that there is that great of coach out there right now. Guess we shall see

That is how I felt about Mike Brown ... not that he was a good coach but in season fires are dicey. Most dont turn out well ... but Nets are not a title team anyway ...it's not like Cuban dismantling a championship team a few seasons back ...

[TimmehC]

I could see BKN running the triangle effectively with their personnel. Still not enough to beat MIA, but they'd be pretty damn good.

[baseline bum]

Man, Bum you on fire.

2 questions how do the Bruins do vs. Baylor and have you seen much of our Bball team is Muhammed the real deal?

No clue; I haven't watched a single college football game this year.

[Killakobe81]

No clue; I haven't watched a single college football game this year.

I saw the biggies vs U$C, Stanford ...

I saw teh bball team play BEFORE Muhammed got cleared supposedly he is NBA lottery material ...

[Basketballgirl25]

That is how I felt about Mike Brown ... not that he was a good coach but in season fires are dicey. Most dont turn out well ... but Nets are not a title team anyway ...it's not like Cuban dismantling a championship team a few seasons back ...

Nets aren't a title team, but they could be a top four team(I think from watching them). I just don't know this time what coach would be good. I don't think PJ will make a great coach if they were stuck with him for all season. And I'm not going to hope and pray Jackson and Sloan come, if they did great though

[Brunodf]

They are overreacting, AJ is a good coach.
Just like Clippers fans who wanted VDN fired early this season, now that Clippers are on 14 games win streak those fans are hiding...

[Lincoln]

How many coaches has dwill got fired

[I. Hustle]

Maybe Prokhorov will throw the bank at Phil Jackson?

In order for Phil Jackson's system to work he will need a couple of things. Such as Lebron James, Dwight Howard and a really high chair. Until he is able to walk into something already in place he will never go to BKN.

[Reck]

This is disgracefull.

Avery has to be the most disrespected coach in the league. The Nets would not be anywhere near the .500 mark if it wasnt for him.

The only reason Nets have been sliding and playing like dog shit its because that's exactly what he's had to work with over there. A fatass, a thug, a cuckhold and a bunch of mega scrubs. Absolutely.

[Basketballgirl25]

So other teams can fired coaches, but Nets can't? Where was all the hate when Lakers fired there coach?

[Trainwreck2100]

So other teams can fired coaches, but Nets can't? Where was all the hate when Lakers fired there coach?

when they did that the assumption was they had PJ

[Clipper Nation]

Why are the Nets getting hated on for this? Avery is a terrible coach who only knows how to call isos on offense and routinely loses his locker room, tbh.... it's a miracle he even got another job after the way things ended in Dallas...

Brooklyn should look to trade Deron "Baron Davis 2.0" Williams next, imho....

[irishock]

And people say Dirk didn't deserve the 2007 MVP after leading a team with scrubs and AJ as their coach to 67-15.

[Basketballgirl25]

Why are the Nets getting hated on for this? Avery is a terrible coach who only knows how to call isos on offense and routinely loses his locker room, tbh.... it's a miracle he even got another job after the way things ended in Dallas...

Brooklyn should look to trade Deron "Baron Davis 2.0" Williams next, imho....

Thank You, for asking why Nets getting hated on this, no one seemed to hate Lakers that much when they fired Mike Brown after 5 games. Avery isn't that bad of a coach, but there was starting to be a problem with the team and the coach is the first to go

[Reck]

There wasn't much fuss over Mike Brown getting fired because it was coming so no surprise there.

There is a difference in doing a bad job from the get go and being a decent coach to the extent that you get your team several games over .500 then getting fired when your shit team struggles.

I just think its funny that Nets figureheads think they can do better with another coach at this point in the season. No amount of new coaches will fix what's wrong with that team.

[DMC]

Deron "coach killer" Williams

Who's next? What's Nate McMillan doing?

Mike Brown?

Any other black coaches available?

Does Kenny Smith want to coach?

[Technique]

I didn't like what Avery was doing over there. There was no offensive fluidity and the iso to play ratio was inappropriate.

[Trill Clinton]

come back home, aj

http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx87/squareinyataco/giveittome300.gif

[Reck]

Being what? A cheerleader?

[Trill Clinton]

uhh no, assistant coach of course.

[Mal]

Next coach, wont help them.

Nets sucks. Deron sucks, but only this season. Lopez, Johnson suck overall. Wallace isnt anwser for anything. They thought they can spend money,picks on high paid guys and have a good team right away. No, you surely cannot have it. And being Knicks little neighbour you dont have Stern protection when it is needed.

[Basketballgirl25]

There wasn't much fuss over Mike Brown getting fired because it was coming so no surprise there.

There is a difference in doing a bad job from the get go and being a decent coach to the extent that you get your team several games over .500 then getting fired when your shit team struggles.

I just think its funny that Nets figureheads think they can do better with another coach at this point in the season. No amount of new coaches will fix what's wrong with that team.

Avery wasn't really a surpirse firing if you actually watched the last couple of games. I for one don't think Avery was all of the problem, some of it yes, but not all of it

[Basketballgirl25]

Deron "coach killer" Williams

Who's next? What's Nate McMillan doing?

Mike Brown?

Any other black coaches available?

Does Kenny Smith want to coach?

So Deron is now a coach killer like Jason Kidd, nice

[Reck]

uhh no, assistant coach of course.

Why would the Spurs get rid of the ones they have? They're very competent.

[Trill Clinton]

Why would the Spurs get rid of the ones they have? They're very competent.

why would they have to get rid of anyone?

[jeebus]

Non issue. This is what shitty teams/orgs do when their overrated teams suck. When you put your faith in Turkey's player of the millenium, a washed up fag who is a career choker, and a bunch of winners named Andray, Stackhouse, and Kristina, your team is gonna blow donkey dick. No amount of shitty uniforms, rusty arenas, or rap songs by your minority owner will fix that.

[Basketballgirl25]

Non issue. This is what shitty teams/orgs do when their overrated teams suck. When you put your faith in Turkey's player of the millenium, a washed up fag who is a career choker, and a bunch of winners named Andray, Stackhouse, and Kristina, your team is gonna blow donkey dick. No amount of shitty uniforms, rusty arenas, or rap songs by your minority owner will fix that.

So your saying Lakers are shitty and overrated as well

[DMC]

So Deron is now a coach killer like Jason Kidd, nice

He killed Sloan, one of the finest coaches in the NBA.

[Reck]

why would they have to get rid of anyone?

Not all but some, as to make room for him.

[Trill Clinton]

Not all but some, as to make room for him.


i'm sure a spot would open up for avery next season.

one of the current assistants might move on to antother team.

is there a limit on the number of assistant coaches a team can carry?

[Reck]

i'm sure a spot would open up for avery next season.

one of the current assistants might move on to antother team.

is there a limit on the number of assistant coaches a team can carry?

Not sure on that. I was more talking about financial issues.

Spurs, being the small market team they are cant afford to have more than their usual 4 or 5 assistant coaches.

[Fpoonsie]

Avery Johnson Jr.
‏@itsaveryjohnson
I'm sorry are best players couldn't make open shots. Yeah that's my dads fault totally...

Rofl.

[Trill Clinton]

lol

[Trill Clinton]

Not sure on that. I was more talking about financial issues.

Spurs, being the small market team they are cant afford to have more than their usual 4 or 5 assistant coaches.

so why can't avery be one of the 4 or 5?

[lefty]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooj



Avery Johnson is out in Brooklyn, but Deron Williams' own demise is sinking the Nets22 minutes ago



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Avery Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/search?p=Avery+Johnson) had this amazing ability to irritate everyone, a relentlessness of back-room politicking and angling that eventually costs him trust and contributes to costing him jobs. This is the reason that it took so long for a franchise to rehire him after the Dallas Mavericks fired him, and why it will likely take so long again. From the Eastern Conference's Coach of the Month in November, Johnson didn't make it until New Year's Day. This was no power struggle with general manager Billy King, but it appeared to surprise Johnson once the franchise's extension talks with the GM came before those with the coach, sources said.
Johnson badly wanted a contract extension with the Nets, and the organization was unwilling to deliver it until he had taken this upgraded and expensive roster into the playoffs. In the end, there was a sense that Johnson had lost too much of this locker room – that the Nets had lost their way – and ownership and King came to a decision together to fire him on Thursday morning (http://yhoo.it/VhMTp6).
Within the organization, the Nets' recent free-fall had made them resemble a lottery team again, and King – with the support of ownership – ultimately wanted a change now, sources said. An able tactician, Johnson had built up too little organizational goodwill once the Nets started to spiral to 10 losses in 13 games this month.
There's a reason all those former Spurs teammates who became GMs never considered hiring Johnson as coach. From Cleveland to Phoenix, they all passed on Johnson. His demand for control, his penchant for passing blame – in ways large and small – played a part in his demise.
[Related: Nets fire Avery Johnson as coach (http://yhoo.it/VhMTp6)]
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/MHXMjXhZpeB6nIKWhPL5AA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTI1MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/boston-celtics-v-brooklyn-nets-20121225-120410-732.jpgDeron Williams is shooting below 40 percent this season. (Getty Images)Two-and-a-half years ago, the Nets needed toughness and accountability restored. And when Jeff Van Gundy and Tom Thibodeau turned down the Nets, Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov and former GM Rod Thorn settled on Johnson. In a lot of ways, he was never built for the long run, and he never learned from his undoing in Dallas.
For now, P.J. Carlesimo will get a chance as interim coach, but he's no long-term solution for the Nets. In a perfect scenario for Carlesimo, the Nets play better, start winning again and he gets them into the playoffs. Nevertheless, he's a stopgap for a staff short on head-coaching experience.
King is expected to investigate several candidates, but it won't be easy to convince high-profile possibilities like Jeff or Stan Van Gundy to take over in the middle of a season. With Dwight Howard still uncommitted long-term to the Los Angeles Lakers, it's unlikely the Nets would pursue either Van Gundy until every bit of hope for a possible Howard trade is exhausted. And truth be told, the demise of Deron Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3929)' career makes this job less appealing every day.
As much as Johnson's own craving for control, the biggest issue for the coach has been the regression of Williams. With Williams longer playing like a superstar guard and grumbling over Johnson's offense the way he used to grumble over Jerry Sloan's in his final Jazz days, no one with significant coaching options will be dying to take over with him as the centerpiece.
King did everything right in trading for Williams and recruiting him to re-sign, but only Williams knows how much of his struggles can be blamed on the offense, on injuries, or, perhaps, on his own desire to stay a great player.
[Related: Is Deron Williams to blame for Avery Johnson's firing? (http://yhoo.it/VhNhnt)]
Back when Mike Brown was considering the chance to be the Nets' coach, someone with knowledge of the Russian ownership group had warned him: You don't want to be the Russian's first coach, be the second one.
Nevertheless, this wasn't as a rash of a decision as it feels with the Nets losing 10 of 13 games this month. Johnson had moved into the final year of his contract, wanted an extension and the Nets were left with a choice: Give it to him, or move him out now.
Perhaps that could've been a decision given more time, but Johnson has never made these things easy on himself. From the moment he was hired as coach, he methodically ingratiated himself with Prokhorov and the owner's emissaries running the Nets stateside. Yet, there was no contract extension coming for Johnson and no commitment for a long-term partnership.
In the end, Billy King will get to choose his own coach, the way that it almost always works within NBA franchises. CEO Brett Yormark – who oversees the business side, not basketball – has always loved John Calipari. Yormark even traveled to Lexington to see a Kentucky game this season. Nevertheless, Yormark doesn't have the power to try and bring Calipari to the Nets as emperor again. Calipari loves New York, but he wouldn't return without complete control.
That won't happen with King ruling the day – not unless Yormark won over ownership on Kentucky's coach. For now, the Nets aren't chasing a power-play on the sideline, but a basketball coach to get this roster righted, get the team back on course for a playoff push. Between now and then, Deron Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3929) has the ability to make this job the most appealing again. King sold Williams on Brooklyn, and now he needs to sell a coach on his franchise player.

[Brazil]

Stupid move by the nets. What were they thinking ? they can build a winning franchise in 12 months? The nets were doing ok.

[Reck]

so why can't avery be one of the 4 or 5?

He could, but will he want less money and be relagated to assisting coaching? That's a huge downgrade. I'm not sure anyone would settle for less in this league unless you really cared about winning but since he'd be assistant coach I dont think he would get credit either way.

[Spurs9]

Derrin is so overrated.

[irishock]

Thank god the Mavs didn't spend 80 mil on this guy.

[Clipper Nation]

Derrin is so overrated.
Baron Davis 2.0, tbh....

[Juggity]

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[scanry]

And people say Dirk didn't deserve the 2007 MVP after leading a team with scrubs and AJ as their coach to 67-15.

Not people but mostly Kobe and Suns fans. I think Lebron should've won the MVP considering the talent he had in 2007.

[racm]

Given how Deron and Dwight have combined to kill 4 coaches, I'm sure Carlisle is secretly glad that Cuban's plan to get those two clowns backfired.

[irishock]

Not people but mostly Kobe and Suns fans. I think Lebron should've won the MVP considering the talent he had in 2007.

The Cavs barely reached 50 wins playing in a whoreshit Eastern conference. Dirk won 67 with a shit coach, a potsmoker and JET in the West. Big difference.

[Venti Quattro]

Like this is going to change anything for the Nets.

[scanry]

The Cavs barely reached 50 wins playing in a whoreshit Eastern conference. Dirk won 67 with a shit coach, a potsmoker and JET in the West. Big difference.

People overlook Dirk because they lost to a 8 seed. Moreover Dirk was so effortless that season and made it look easy. He barely played 35 min a game because the Mavs were blowing out teams all season.

[racm]

People overlook Dirk because they lost to a 8 seed. Moreover Dirk was so effortless that season and made it look easy. He barely played 35 min a game because the Mavs were blowing out teams all season.

Of course, they happened to run into a team which was coached by the same guy who built Dirk's team. If Avery doesn't try to match Nelson's small ball the Mavs probably win it all.

[spursncowboys]

They can AJ because the coach killer can't hit his shots. lowest fg percent in his career. Injured players Superstar misses shots = team loses. Yeah get rid of the coach. Makes perfect sense.

[lefty]

In Russia, players fire you

[Dallas]

Avery Johnson exhibited below average coaching skills during the 2006 NBA Finals run. The Dallas Mavericks basketball franchise owned by Mark Cuban will not tolerate anything less than greatness.

[Basketballgirl25]

I find it funny people call Deron a coach killer, at least till all the facts come out for this he isn't. Deron himself has admitted he has played like shit. King and Avery both said don't blame Deron, this firing I think was more of all the team, not just one player. Of course I could be wrong, we all know players, coaches, and GM's in the NBA are great liers

[Pelicans78]

Dirk easily deserved regular season MVP that season. No debate.

And Avery Johnson is a shit coach. There's a reason the Hornets didn't hire his ass two seasons ago when he publicly pleaded for the job since he was a local guy.

[scanry]

Coaches need poise in championship games and Avery has none of that tbh. Phil, Pop and Carlisle have that. The reason Dallas won back in 2011 was largely due to Carlisle outcoaching Philibeaner. The zone killed Miami and Philibeaner had no clue how to counter it.

[Girasuck]

How many coaches has dwill got fired

Well, since Sloan wasn't fired I'd say one.

[Findog]

Millionaires don't go for the drill sergeant act. Who wants to get yelled at by some black cajun dude?

"TRANSISHUN DEEEFENSE"

[Findog]

I would have liked to have seen Avery standing in the coach's box with a big bowl of gumbo in his hands at all times.

[jag]

Millionaires don't go for the drill sergeant act. Who wants to get yelled at by some black cajun dude?

"TRANSISHUN DEEEFENSE"

Dirk once said during an interview that Avery "ran a little dictatorship" while he was in Dallas. Then he said, "I think this league is still a league of players, not a coaches league."

Avery would be a very good college coach. But I don't think his temperament is suited for the League.

[Findog]

Dirk once said during an interview that Avery "ran a little dictatorship" while he was in Dallas. Then he said, "I think this league is still a league of players, not a coaches league."

Avery would be a very good college coach. But I don't think his temperament is suited for the League.

Agreed. Avery is a very good coach in some ways, but he's a short-term fix kind of guy. In Dallas he got a team that traditionally was all offense and no D to buy into the concept of giving a crap about defense. They were a second-round exit with Nellie and a legit contender with Avery. They didn't all of a sudden become the 2008 Celtics on Defense but they became passable. It's what separated them from the D'Antoni Suns. Problem with Avery is that his personality and domineering ways just grate on guys sooner than later. A .500 record with that roster in Brooklyn is about right, so in my mind they weren't underachieving. But I'm sure they got rid of him because he lost the locker room.

[Basketballgirl25]

Agreed. Avery is a very good coach in some ways, but he's a short-term fix kind of guy. In Dallas he got a team that traditionally was all offense and no D to buy into the concept of giving a crap about defense. They were a second-round exit with Nellie and a legit contender with Avery. They didn't all of a sudden become the 2008 Celtics on Defense but they became passable. It's what separated them from the D'Antoni Suns. Problem with Avery is that his personality and domineering ways just grate on guys sooner than later. A .500 record with that roster in Brooklyn is about right, so in my mind they weren't underachieving. But I'm sure they got rid of him because he lost the locker room.

I do think they got rid of him because he lost the locker room, I'm not saying it was totally on him though.

[Stalin]

i never liked this uppity nig, IMO TBH

[howbouthemspurs]

This is totally all DWill's fault.

[irishock]

Deron Williams dismissed reports suggesting he quit on Avery Johnson before his firing.
Williams sat out Johnson's final game as head coach of the Brooklyn Nets.
“I feel if I would have played better, as a player, that we would have won a lot more games and he would still be here,” Williams said Friday morning. “As far as that’s concerned, I feel responsible.”
Williams and Avery Johnson had a strained relationship from the moment Williams arrived, according to people both inside and outside the organization.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225263/Williams_Takes_Partial_Responsibility_For_Johnsons _Firing

[Basketballgirl25]

if you look at his track record, Avery has done pretty bad coaching PG's Devin Harris played for him twice and was traded twice for new ones, Kidd got him fired, and now supposedly Deron got him fired. If Avery is as good of coach as everyone says then he will get another coach, because we all know at one point down the line a coach will get fired.

[spursncowboys]

I find it funny people call Deron a coach killer, at least till all the facts come out for this he isn't. Deron himself has admitted he has played like shit. King and Avery both said don't blame Deron, this firing I think was more of all the team, not just one player. Of course I could be wrong, we all know players, coaches, and GM's in the NBA are great liers
D. Will is the on court leader. If the team is turning on the coach, it's his job to get them back in line. When they don't do that, coach loses the team.

[spursncowboys]

if you look at his track record, Avery has done pretty bad coaching PG's Devin Harris played for him twice and was traded twice for new ones, Kidd got him fired, and now supposedly Deron got him fired. If Avery is as good of coach as everyone says then he will get another coach, because we all know at one point down the line a coach will get fired.
Avery had virtually no power as a head coach. It was his fault for agreeing to a contract that pretty much made him the scapegoat with no real power to build a team.

[Latarian Milton]

and the irony is that he played PG himself when he was playing professional basketball but doesn't know how to use his PGs

[Reck]

Nets WON!!!!! firing justified!

:lmao