Game Thread: Spurs vs. Nets - Dec. 31 @ 6:00 PM CST

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[Gagnrath]

Seems early yet, and nothing about the game?

[TE]

Seems early yet, and nothing about the game?
Well there's this thread for the game. It's been awhile since I've been able to sit through an entire game and watch. Tonight will mark one of the few times I've been able to do that.

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[JRHernandez88]

Your sig is making my computer slow :bang

[TheCerebral1]

Looking forward to this game. I thoroughly hope Deron Williams is shred to pieces by TP. Duncan will take care of the paint. Easy win.

[Basketballgirl25]

Hopefully Nets show up tonight and give Spurs a run for their money, I don't expect the Nets to win, but Spurs I think is a good test. I hope the Nets can be like the Spurs in the next few years, it's amazing how the spurs always seem good and they are a team you can respect

[ace3g]

Gerald Wallace is out tonight:

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT (https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT) Gerald Wallace is out tonight, a fact we would have known sooner if the dang AT&T Ctr would provide cell svc for other providers.

[Brunodf]

Andrew A. McNeill ‏@drew_48moh (https://twitter.com/drew_48moh)
Pop on PJ Carlisemo wanting him to rest some #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash) players tonight vs. the Nets: "It's too expensive." #GoSpursGo (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GoSpursGo&src=hash)

[TDMVPDPOY]

i hope deron williams throws this game....

[Boomersgold]

Mike Monroe ‏@Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Gary Neal to miss third straight game (vs. Nets) for Spurs (strained right calf)

[EVAY]

Gerald Wallace is out tonight:

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT (https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT) Gerald Wallace is out tonight, a fact we would have known sooner if the dang AT&T Ctr would provide cell svc for other providers.

Verizon fan, I take it?

[ace3g]

game time!!!

[loveforthegame]

Go Spurs!!

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[ace3g]

Pop don't be "friendly" with Bogans...

[ace3g]

Kawhi defense off to a good note

[JRHernandez88]

Checking in :flag:

[loveforthegame]

Splitter off to a nice start.

[timvp]

Tbh, I'd put Parker on Bogans and Green on Williams. That coach killer might be too fat for TP, tbh.

[Uriel]

How does Keith Bogans not only manage to stay in the league, but consistently find a starting role (Spurs, Bulls, Nets)?

[ace3g]

Timmy just "funded" Brook there

[ace3g]

Kawhi 3!!

[ace3g]

what Diaw do we get this half?

[ace3g]

Flop Flop Flop

[Spurs Brazil]

TD with some nice passes

[timvp]

Wow. That should be a fine, tbh.

[loveforthegame]

2 fouls on Duncan.

[ace3g]

Diaw shot on his first attempt!!!

[DPG21920]

Tim did put both palms on him and then slapped his off arm, but the head thing was overreacting.

[DPG21920]

TP should eat Deron up on both ends. He's incredibly easy to defend these days.

[Darkwaters]

A lot of short shots....Spurs are tired.

[weebo]

Parker needs to do more of that and less chucking.

[Darkwaters]

These guys running the local broadcast need to fix their clock/scoreboard. All jacked up.

[DPG21920]

Man, D-Will just is off. If TP plays with any kind of focus defensively, D-Will might go scoreless for the rest of the game.

[Dr. Robert Lee]

Manu got sick of Tony never passing him the ball, tbh, so he just stole it and scored it himself. :lol

[DPG21920]

Parker needs to do more of that and less chucking.

How can you use the term chucking and Parker in the same sentence? He's one of the most efficient scorers in the league. If you narrow that to just PG's, it makes that even more laughable.

[weebo]

How can you use the term chucking and Parker in the same sentence? He's one of the most efficient scorers in the league. If you narrow that to just PG's, it makes that even more laughable.

Like not giving it up on a break when you have KL running the floor and taking it up with a defender in his face.

[DPG21920]

BKY's best offense comes off that second pass after Dwill passes. He shoots, they suck. They shoot right after his pass, they suck. They do the Hockey assist, they get decent looks.

[siraulo23]

is it safe to say manu's back?

[DPG21920]

Like not giving it up on a break when you have KL running the floor and taking it up with a defender in his face.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh.

























Girl.

[spurraider21]

lets see if Nando-Manu works today. shaky results so far this year

[Boomersgold]

Pop going with De Colo early on.

[Dr. Robert Lee]

THE GRAND WIZARD!!!

[spurraider21]

any time Jax attacks the basket like this its an added bonus. all i expect from him is defense and shooting

[DPG21920]

I guess with Pat Stacks not playing well last game, Pop went with Nando. Or maybe it's just because Dwill is out there and bigger.

Either way, Pop can't just use one game, two game sample sizes. Guys should get a decent stretch at back up PG to see how they handle it.

[spurraider21]

Your sig is making my computer slow :bang
i used to have this problem ALL the time, especially on my phone, but the "hide signatures" feature saved me all the trouble

[timvp]

Great patience again by Jack so far.

[Boomersgold]

i used to have this problem ALL the time, especially on my phone, but the "hide signatures" feature saved me all the trouble

How do we hide sigs?

[DPG21920]

:lmao Dwill. Stuffed by Diaw, then afraid to shoot, then passes to his big surrounded by 2 guys because he's panicked.

[weebo]

Manu clowning fooz

[loveforthegame]

DWill looks like a mess.

[Dr. Robert Lee]

The Grand Wizard and Manu just saved Boris' ass, tbh.

[Brazil]

Game the 31 is pretty fucked up. I'm going to drink. Have a good game guys! See ya next year

[Dr. Robert Lee]

That might be the worst close-out I've ever seen.

[spurraider21]

The Grand Wizard and Manu just saved Boris' ass, tbh.
yeah, no. just no

[DPG21920]

:lol I love hating on Dwill now.

[Boomersgold]

The Grand Wizard and Manu just saved Boris' ass, tbh.

I don't think that's going to catch on, buddy.

[spurraider21]

I remember when people used to argue D-Will was the best point guard in the league over CP3

[Darkwaters]

Boris Diaw with a block on Deron Williams?

Classic.

[freetiago]

Spurs have weathered the Lopez storm nicely so far
rare to ever see Duncan in foul trouble
maybe he could have played through it, im not ever worried about TD making stupid plays

spurs also need to not double dwills post up
he cant shoot right now and if he wants to shoot contested fadeaways let him

[Dr. Robert Lee]

yeah, no. just no


I don't think that's going to catch on, buddy.

Dude looks like a skinhead, tbh.

[weebo]

I remember when people used to argue D-Will was the best point guard in the league over CP3

Deron has always been overrated.

[spurraider21]

Dude looks like a skinhead, tbh.
ah, so from skinhead you got "The Grand Wizard"

[SpursIndonesia]

Like not giving it up on a break when you have KL running the floor and taking it up with a defender in his face.

Pass to KY and then proceed to make an offensive foul out of it ? :lol

[DPG21920]

I remember when people used to argue D-Will was the best point guard in the league over CP3

He was. He's just fallen off last couple years.

[weebo]

come on jax

[timvp]

Ugh. Just keep Splitter in ... or bring back TD.

[spurraider21]

He was. He's just fallen off last couple years.
his shooting efficiency used to be better, true. but he was always way more turnover prone than Paul and was never the defender CP3 is

[Boomersgold]

Ugh. Just keep Splitter in ... or bring back TD.

De Colo's playing that spot-up shooter role again....

[Dr. Robert Lee]

BOONNNNNER.

[weebo]

De C needs to work on that shot. It would make his game deadly.

[Darkwaters]

Bonner with the offensive board and lay-in!

[Trill Clinton]

just woke up and cut the game on. i don't know if i'm still halfway sleep but diaw is looking light on his feet out there so far.

[spurraider21]

Ugh. Just keep Splitter in ... or bring back TD.
Bonner and Diaw with offensive rebounds on 2 straight possessions =)

[spurraider21]

Just wait till Blatche hits a couple of shots... all the "we could have signed this guy" comments are gna flow in... i might contribute there tbh

[Darkwaters]

I'm pretty sure Kris Humphries is in the top 5 of douchebags in the league

[Dr. Robert Lee]

NANDO.

[Manufan909]

NDC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DPG21920]

I knew Jax was going to chuck that stupid shot.

[Paranoid Pop]

Boris really good on D.

[weebo]

Sometimes I wonder if Jax is done.

[Darkwaters]

I knew Jax was going to chuck that stupid shot.

I'm pretty sure we all did. I love Jax...but at times he just gets dumb.

[spurraider21]

I knew Jax was going to chuck that stupid shot.
He has that Kobe jab step where he jabs 4-5 times and you know the whole time he's gna pull up

[Boomersgold]

How's that Nando-Manu combo working?

[Brunodf]

Bring the bigs back

[spurraider21]

How's that Nando-Manu combo working?
Its the Bonner-Diaw combo that's worrying me more, although Diaw is semi-holding his own

[spurraider21]

Timmy having 2 fouls illustrates the potential problems with the Tim-Tiago lineup

[JRHernandez88]

Fkn Danny green trade his ass

[Paranoid Pop]

Its the Bonner-Diaw combo that's worrying me more, although Diaw is semi-holding his own

Feels like he stopped everything at the rim but the dunk when Many opened the lane to Humphries out of the blue.

[Boomersgold]

Its the Bonner-Diaw combo that's worrying me more, although Diaw is semi-holding his own

How do we disable sigs?

[weebo]

bonner keeping the nets in the game

[SpursIndonesia]

Tony Parker the chucker & hero baller, right ?? :rolleyes

[loveforthegame]

Love/Hate Reggie Evans.

[Manufan909]

How do we disable sigs?

On the top right click the down arrow with your username, and then go to control panel. You'll find it in there.

[Paranoid Pop]

Green with a terrible stint.

[spurraider21]

Green with a terrible stint.
Joe Johnson essentially bending him over... odd considering how well Green has defended Mayo in last couple of weeks

[Darkwaters]

How do we disable sigs?

Really? It's not that hard to figure out. Go to control panel, my account - general settings, scroll down to "thread display options" and uncheck show signatures.

[JRHernandez88]

Our big 3 our looking so dam good this year

[Reck]

This bastards copied everything from the court color to the jersey's designs.

Those are totally Spurs away Jerseys.

[Reck]

This Blatche guy is pretty bad. lol

[Libri]

good job Tiago

[Fpoonsie]

Tiago just lost the tip to a foot-shorter scrub playing his 18th season.

Maybe Splitter should consider suicide for the new year.

[loveforthegame]

Spurs making it harder than it needs to be.

[RodNIc91]

Big 3 patented play. I will surely miss this

[Reck]

LOL all Nets players letting Parker shoot that 3 like he's a total scrub. BAM!

[Libri]

Vucevic with 29 rebounds? :wow

[spurraider21]

great ball movement by the nets, lucky that shot didn't fall

[spurraider21]

...followed by Tiago ugly hookshot of the game

[Reck]

Will Splitter ever stop these hook shots? Never going to get good at those so quit it fag.

[Boomersgold]

Vucevic with 29 rebounds? :wow

Not bad. I'd trade Gary Neal for him.

[Brunodf]

Not a good decision there...

[Boomersgold]

Will Splitter ever stop these hook shots? Never going to get good at those so quit it fag.

Splitter has the best hook shots of anyone in the Spurs....

[Paranoid Pop]

Tragic dodgeball pass.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol popeye jones this clown still in the league...

whose the blonde reporter...damn

[spurraider21]

Not bad. I'd trade Gary Neal for him.
package him with blair

[Brunodf]

package him with blair

and Bonner

[freetiago]

Ginobili with the bads so far tbh
his 3 failed gambles led to 3 wide open made 3 pointers by the nets
first on marshon
then johnson
then stackhouse

[Reck]

Splitter has the best hook shots of anyone in the Spurs....

That's not really better. There is a reason why others dont attempt it. You gotta know when you're doing something that's not part of your game.

His coaches need to let him know to stop making himself look a fool.

[Brunodf]

That's not really better. There is a reason why others dont attempt it. You gotta know when you're doing something that's not part of your game.

His coaches need to let him know to stop making himself look a fool.

2 seconds on the shot clck, he had to shot...

[Reck]

2 seconds on the shot clck, he had to shot...

I would agree if this was an isolated shot but we both know he loves to do this on a regular basis.

[Brunodf]

I would agree if this was an isolated shot but we both know he loves to do this on a regular basis.

:wtf Splitter barely touches the basketball and isn't like his FG% is low

[loveforthegame]

Splitter. :tu

[Libri]

:)

[Paranoid Pop]

Nice sequence.

[Brunodf]

Timmy Dunk

[spursmartyr]

Great start coming out of the locker room! I just wish Tiago would dunk that instead of the sissy reverse.

[TDMVPDPOY]

hero tryin to play defense...

[Chinook]

I haven't liked the way Tony's been playing recently. It doesn't bode well for a team without Duncan or Ginobili.

[loveforthegame]

Leonard with some nice plays.

[Boomersgold]

How much is Deron Williams getting paid this year? He's looking like Jeremy Lin out there...

[TDMVPDPOY]

lets keep them 2pts only for the quarter

[loveforthegame]

Really like how Leonard is playing tonight.

[EVAY]

I haven't liked the way Tony's been playing recently. It doesn't bode well for a team without Duncan or Ginobili.

Yeah, I know what you mean. 75% shooting and 5 assists in 2 and 1/2 quarters is really awful.

[Libri]

Oh yeah. *clapping*

[Brunodf]

Weird game

[spursmartyr]

Spurs playing Spurs defense so far in the 3rd quarter. Now that's what I like to see. :toast

[Darkwaters]

This quarter has been insanely sloppy. How many times have people been diving on the floor for loose balls?

[spursmartyr]

This quarter has been insanely sloppy. How many times have people been diving on the floor for loose balls?

Idk, but we've had at least 5 jump balls so far

[Uriel]

The Spurs are truly an elite basketball club.

[Manufan909]

Splitter going for blocks, good to see.

[Darkwaters]

I really like how involved an engaged Splitter has been all game. Now if only we could get him to rebound a bit more.

[Reck]

I love my Spurs.

This team is playing great.

[Paranoid Pop]

Yeah, I know what you mean. 75% shooting and 5 assists in 2 and 1/2 quarters is really awful.

As a big fan of TP I think he played a bit better earlier in the year, but I think he's adjusting to the starting unit but you can't argue with his scoring and effort on D.

[Darkwaters]

Deron Williams looks like a total scrub tonight.

[JRHernandez88]

Spurs showing Brooklyn who the originators are...









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[EVAY]

As a big fan of TP I think he played a bit better earlier in the year, but I think he's adjusting to the starting unit but you can't argue with his scoring and effort on D.

Earlier in the year there was no Manu.

[Libri]

brick by the centerpiece

[Boomersgold]

Anyone from our bench > Keith Bogans

[Chinook]

Yeah, I know what you mean. 75% shooting and 5 assists in 2 and 1/2 quarters is really awful.

I don't mean his stats. I don't like how the team has looked when he gets his stats. It's been working today, but there have been plenty of days where than contributes to the starters giving up a lead the bench creates.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I don't mean his stats. I don't like how the team has looked when he gets his stats. It's been working today, but there have been plenty of days where than contributes to the starters giving up a lead the bench creates.

spurs play much better when his in street clothes

[Boomersgold]

Patty Mills should be on.

[siraulo23]

TD :tu

[Paranoid Pop]

I don't mean his stats. I don't like how the team has looked when he gets his stats. It's been working today, but there have been plenty of days where than contributes to the starters giving up a lead the bench creates.

Plenty of days? Besides he overpassed at the start of the season and everyone was on his back including Pop...

[Darkwaters]

How many freaking jump balls are we going to have this quarter?

[EVAY]

I don't mean his stats. I don't like how the team has looked when he gets his stats. It's been working today, but there have been plenty of days where than contributes to the starters giving up a lead the bench creates.

Respectfully, I disagree. Tony is never going to be a defensive powerhouse. He doesn't have the athleticism of a Ginobili or Leonard. He is not as good a passer as Ginobili, not does he have Ginobili's court vision. But he runs this offense better BY FAR than anyone else on this team, and better than anyone I have seen in watching around 82 games per year since 1993.

[TDMVPDPOY]

decolo fkn sucks compared to rookie beno

[Boomersgold]

decolo fkn sucks compared to rookie beno

Not a good showing from him tonight.

[Brunodf]

Oh JEsus, now Pop believes that Bonner/Diaw can work

[TDMVPDPOY]

put in fkn mills damn it, decolo with the weakass passes tonight

[Darkwaters]

Damn, I wanted them to limit the Nets to 2 points in the quarter

[loveforthegame]

NDC. :tu

[EVAY]

Diaw is a hell of a passer.

[Paranoid Pop]

Boris in Lebron mode tonight tbh.

[Darius Bieber]

Stern wanted this scrub ass team to play on Christmas Day and not the Spurs?

[Libri]

Deron Williams :lol

[loveforthegame]

I love this team. Damn. :toast

[Boomersgold]

Diaw with his Magic Johnson on.

[Chinook]

Plenty of days? Besides he overpassed at the start of the season and everyone was on his back including Pop...

I obviously don't mean plenty as in all the time. But look at the Spurs' losses. When the starters' give up a run, it's usually because their offense bogs down. That happens because of a lack of ball movement. That usually happens because Parker or Duncan wanted to play hero ball. The team doesn't need Parker to be a superstar most nights. It's fun for All-Star voting, but the Spurs have been wrecking teams because of how much they share the ball.

[Boomersgold]

LOL @ De Colo. Everything going for the Spurs.

[siraulo23]

WTF

30 - 5?

[Manu-20]

Holy Shit De colo at the buzzer, 30-5 quater lol.

[Darkwaters]

Holy shit. What a quarter

[loveforthegame]

Beautiful quarter. :tu

[JRHernandez88]

DWILL Is garbage this year.




DWONT

[Darkwaters]

So, spanning halftime, we're on a 35-5 run

[carina_gino20]

Some BS shot from Nando. :lol

[Uriel]

Holy shit. What a quarter
I was about to post the exact same thing. :lol

[capek]

:lol wow nice way to end the quarter, to say the least. nice to see Nando play through some early mistakes :tu

[Mal]

Guess firing AJ didnt make them contender

[timvp]

Beauty :cry

[timvp]

AJ Forever, tbh.

[spursmartyr]

Did I wake up in 2003?

DAT DEFENSE :rollin

[Darkwaters]

Did I wake up in 2003?

DAT DEFENSE :rollin

I think the Spurs MVP is Deron Williams tbh

[Darkwaters]

Blair back in. Nets FG% will instantly go up 20-30%.

So, in otherwards, they shoot 21-31% this quarter.

[mystargtr34]

Spurs allowed 5 points in the 3rd.. Is that a franchise record?

[Boomersgold]

Nice to see Blair diving for the ball.

[capek]

Holy Shit De colo at the buzzer, 30-5 quater lol.

:wow

So maybe it's not all in my head. Going with a Duncan/Splitter/Leonard/X/X lineup has kind of transformed our defense, from average at best to pretty damn good! Granted, the competition hasn't been so great the last few games, but still, its a promising sign!

[Budkin]

Wow talk about an ass fucking!

[Manu-20]

Spurs allowed 5 points in the 3rd.. Is that a franchise record?

I think in 2007 the spurs held the hawks to 5 points in a quater.

[freetiago]

i miss james anderson
he was out most exciting garbage player
always had some fancy layups and tried to posterize someone

[Darkwaters]

Holy shit, Spurs on an 85-52 point run!!!

[Reck]

You can hear the collective "ughs" when Blair even touches the ball. :lmao

Fat ass must go.

[spursmartyr]

Spurs allowed 5 points in the 3rd.. Is that a franchise record?

No, the Spurs gave up only 3 points early in the 2002-03 season in the first quarter in a home game against Denver. Then again, that Denver team was the worst offensive team in NBA history statistically, even not counting that game. The funny thing about that game was that Kenny Satterfield made the first shot of the game on the first possession and all they got the rest of the quarter was a free throw and missed everything else :lmao

[loveforthegame]

He's working through his mistakes but I really like NDCs game.

[capek]

Nando and Mills in the game at the same time, and Patty gives it off to De Colo to run the play. Not surprised, they know where they rank tbh

[Reck]

Spurs allowed 5 points in the 3rd.. Is that a franchise record?

Nope but it is a franchise record low for the Nets.

[spursmartyr]

I hope the Spurs don't give up 100 points tonight

[Boomersgold]

Nando and Mills in the game at the same time, and Patty gives it off to De Colo to run the play. Not surprised, they know where they rank tbh

Exactly. Mills knows that Nando is the better playmaker and Nando knows that Mills is the better shooter.

[JRHernandez88]

Nets are weak, they couldn't hang in the west. Eastern conference got it so dam easy! :cuss

[capek]

You can hear the collective "ughs" when Blair even touches the ball. :lmao

Fat ass must go.

:depressed poor blair...he has been professional about it though (outside of like 1 emo tweet)

[EVAY]

Nando and Mills in the game at the same time, and Patty gives it off to De Colo to run the play. Not surprised, they know where they rank tbh

I don't think it has as much to do with standing as it does position played. DeColo is a pg; Mills is a sg

[007nites]

This is a joke

[Boomersgold]

Blair blocked again.

[Reck]

I hope the Spurs don't give up 100 points tonight

That would be almost impossible at this point.

Nets only have 55 points with 8 minutes and 30 seconds to play.

Thwy would have to score 45 for that and ain't no way that's ever going to happen. :lol

[Chinook]

Respectfully, I disagree. Tony is never going to be a defensive powerhouse. He doesn't have the athleticism of a Ginobili or Leonard. He is not as good a passer as Ginobili, not does he have Ginobili's court vision. But he runs this offense better BY FAR than anyone else on this team, and better than anyone I have seen in watching around 82 games per year since 1993.

I don't think Parker is lacking anything. His defense is fine, especially when it counts. He's also made some fantastic passes, and he's a great scorer. I am not a Parker-hater by any means.

But it feels like Parker keeps ignoring open shooters in order to shoot long twos or go for contested layups. When it works, Parker looks like an MVP candidate. When it doesn't the Spurs look awful. I think the offense (not in general, but the current tweaks made to it) was designed for Parker to carry the load that Duncan wasn't expected to be able to carry anymore. It's different now; the Spurs can play a better balance between PnR and post-ups. I am not so much blaming Parker, as I assume he's doing what Pop wants. But I am questioning Pop's desire right now.

[TE]

Ok, something is really wrong with Blair.

Might have to do with having no ACL's.

[loveforthegame]

Blair is done. And the Spurs were asking for a 1st round pick for him during the draft? Seriously?

[Chinook]

I don't think Parker is lacking anything. His defense is fine, especially when it counts. He's also made some fantastic passes, and he's a great scorer. I am not a Parker-hater by any means.

But it feels like Parker keeps ignoring open shooters in order to shoot long twos or go for contested layups. When it works, Parker looks like an MVP candidate. When it doesn't the Spurs look awful. I think the offense (not in general, but the current tweaks made to it) was designed for Parker to carry the load that Duncan wasn't expected to be able to carry anymore. It's different now; the Spurs can play a better balance between PnR and post-ups. With the great shooters on the floor, I think it needs to be a priority to get them the ball, too. I guess that I am not so much blaming Parker, as I assume he's doing what Pop wants, but that I am questioning Pop's desire right now.

[TDMVPDPOY]

keep them under 80 clowns

[Manufan909]

Got damn, I'm tired of the Ronaldo commercials during every break!!!! FML

[Brunodf]

I can't believe that people were arguing about Blair in the starting lineup...
Spurs look so much better now, always start strong= more blowouts= Big 3 play less

[Cane]

Wtf kind of new year's resolution wish was that? "I want to have a grandbaby!" Damn, what a bitch lol

[Uriel]

I'd rather play Kahwi than S-Jax in this lineup, so he can learn to be the primary scoring option.

[EVAY]

I don't think Parker is lacking anything. His defense is fine, especially when it counts. He's also made some fantastic passes, and he's a great scorer. I am not a Parker-hater by any means.

But it feels like Parker keeps ignoring open shooters in order to shoot long twos or go for contested layups. When it works, Parker looks like an MVP candidate. When it doesn't the Spurs look awful. I think the offense (not in general, but the current tweaks made to it) was designed for Parker to carry the load that Duncan wasn't expected to be able to carry anymore. It's different now; the Spurs can play a better balance between PnR and post-ups. I am not so much blaming Parker, as I assume he's doing what Pop wants. But I am questioning Pop's desire right now.

Well, that was my thought all along, that one thing you can be absolutely sure of is that Parker is playing the offense that Pop wants played, so if your concern is with the play calling, why not say that?

Earlier in the year Parker was criticized for not being aggressive enough, including by Pop. Remember when Pop famously asked him "Are you planning to shoot any time this season? Now, Parker is doing what Pop wants, i.e., driving the lane and getting the defense accustomed to collapsing on him or coming out to meet his tear drop. Then other shooters are freed up and more open. That is what Pop wants. If TP's shot is not falling Pop doesn't change his game plan...hell, Pop NEVER changes his game plan, but TP is still supposed to be opening things up for his other teammates. Remember that Manu was out for a lot and then Leonard was out seemingly forever, so it was only Tim and Tony and occasionally Green and occasionally Gary who would get hot. But it really WAS up to Tony and Tim for a long stretch there. I think that Tony may be slow to adjust to the other scorers on the floor, but he is absolutely playing the game that Pop wants played. Or he would be being screamed at, as he was for his first 8 years here.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i think its possible to keep them under 70

[capek]

Exactly. Mills knows that Nando is the better playmaker and Nando knows that Mills is the better shooter.

Yep. I'm glad that's the way it's looking it will turn out. Looks like they should be able to carve out their own spots on the team, and not overlap too much. Maybe we'll actually get something decent out of the two this year.


I don't think it has as much to do with standing as it does position played. DeColo is a pg; Mills is a sg

That may be obvious to me and you, but some of Spursfan thinks there still is (or wants there to be) a competition for the back up pg spot between the two. I was just pointing out an instance of why that's not the case ;)

[TE]

Man...remember when Blair and Bonner were in the primary backup big rotation?


Times have a-changed.

[Boomersgold]

Yep. I'm glad that's the way it's looking it will turn out. Looks like they should be able to carve out their own spots on the team, and not overlap too much. Maybe we'll actually get something decent out of the two this year.



That may be obvious to me and you, but some of Spursfan thinks there still is (or wants there to be) a competition for the back up pg spot between the two. I was just pointing out an instance of why that's not the case ;)

There IS competition for the backup pg. Mills doesn't play like the pass-first point guard, so Pop usually pairs him with Ginobili, therefore allowing Mills to play the pg on defense and the SG on offense.

[therealtruth]

Blair is done. And the Spurs were asking for a 1st round pick for him during the draft? Seriously?

The Spurs dropped the ball. Should have traded him when his stock was higher like when we were winning 60+ with him starting.

[capek]

I'd rather play Kahwi than S-Jax in this lineup, so he can learn to be the primary scoring option.

I'd like to see this too. On the other hand, I guess Pop weighed it out and decided giving Jax some extra minutes to try to find his rhythm was more important, which I can't really disagree with considering Kawhi is already playing pretty great. But ya, I too want to see more Kawhi!! lol

[EVAY]

Man...remember when Blair and Bonner were in the primary backup big rotation?


Times have a-changed.

Proof positive that there is a god.

[Chinook]

Well, that was my thought all along, that one thing you can be absolutely sure of is that Parker is playing the offense that Pop wants played, so if your concern is with the play calling, why not say that?

Earlier in the year Parker was criticized for not being aggressive enough, including by Pop. Remember when Pop famously asked him "Are you planning to shoot any time this season? Now, Parker is doing what Pop wants, i.e., driving the lane and getting the defense accustomed to collapsing on him or coming out to meet his tear drop. Then other shooters are freed up and more open. That is what Pop wants. If TP's shot is not falling Pop doesn't change his game plan...hell, Pop NEVER changes his game plan, but TP is still supposed to be opening things up for his other teammates. Remember that Manu was out for a lot and then Leonard was out seemingly forever, so it was only Tim and Tony and occasionally Green and occasionally Gary who would get hot. But it really WAS up to Tony and Tim for a long stretch there. I think that Tony may be slow to adjust to the other scorers on the floor, but he is absolutely playing the game that Pop wants played. Or he would be being screamed at, as he was for his first 8 years here.

I agree with you about Pop's system. But I don't think Parker can be let off the hook. The basic idea of the Spurs' offense right now is for Parker to shoot if he's open, or pass to the roller or a shooter if the defense collapses on him. He does the first two things well enough, and I would assume the majority of his assists are to Duncan and Splitter. That's fine, but it is his responsibility to find shooters when he is getting contested by multiple players at the rim. I don't think he's been doing that enough.

I can't remember the last time he passed it on the break to anyone besides Ginobili or Duncan. Most of the time he scores or gets a foul, but there are a good deal of times where he gets out of control (not like Leonard, though) and either turns it over or gets bailed out. I don't think that it's Pop's game plan for him to do that. I just think that it's the remnants of tweak that they've forgot to remove.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol pj carlisimo look....better get use to it as long deron williams is still on the team

[maverick1948]

Boring Spurs!!! I fell asleep twice in the 3rd quarter and twice again in the 4th. Damn Boring SPURS !!!!!!:lmao

[Libri]

lol pj carlisimo look....better get use to it as long deron williams is still on the team

PJ can't get a break. First he had the coach strangler and now he has the coach killer.

[Darkwaters]

Man...remember when Blair and Bonner were in the primary backup big rotation?


Times have a-changed.

Not really. They're still the only bigs we have, we just choose to play small with a couple of SF's (Diaw, Jackson) backing up the post guys and keep the actual backup bigs (Bonner, Blair) on the pine.

[Boomersgold]

Not really. They're still the only bigs we have, we just choose to play small with a couple of SF's (Diaw, Jackson) backing up the post guys and keep the actual backup bigs (Bonner, Blair) on the pine.

Jackson hasn't done anything to solidify his spot in the rotation, tbh.

[capek]

There IS competition for the backup pg. Mills doesn't play like the pass-first point guard, so Pop usually pairs him with Ginobili, therefore allowing Mills to play the pg on defense and the SG on offense.

PG is an offensive term. The person who everybody passes the ball to to run an offensive play is, in my mind the PG. Who cares who guards the other team's point guard. That job use to go to Bowen more often than not, but nobody would have ever called him a PG. lol The fact is that when they're both on the court, Nando has run 90%+ of the plays. I'm just make an observation, and if from that observation you take it that 33 games into the season might be enough to have see consensus coalesce among the *players* that at this point it's Nando's job to loose. No big soap box here, I just think this whole "back up PG competition" is, *at this point* maintained more on ST than in reality.

[Boomersgold]

What's really sad is the fact that Blair attempted 2 shots in the fourth quarter, and was blocked on both attempts. I hope he gets his confidence back.

[TE]

Not really. They're still the only bigs we have, we just choose to play small with a couple of SF's (Diaw, Jackson) backing up the post guys and keep the actual backup bigs (Bonner, Blair) on the pine.

A point I couldn't make in my post but yeah.

[TE]

What's really sad is the fact that Blair attempted 2 shots in the fourth quarter, and was blocked on both attempts. I hope he gets his confidence back.

I think he's seriously hurt. This version of Blair is a FARCRY from the one of 2-3 years ago tbh.

[Boomersgold]

PG is an offensive term. The person who everybody passes the ball to to run an offensive play is, in my mind the PG. Who cares who guards the other team's point guard. That job use to go to Bowen more often than not, but nobody would have ever called him a PG. lol The fact is that when they're both on the court, Nando has run 90%+ of the plays. I'm just make an observation, and if from that observation you take it that 33 games into the season might be enough to have see consensus coalesce among the *players* that at this point it's Nando's job to loose. No big soap box here, I just think this whole "back up PG competition" is, *at this point* maintained more on ST than in reality.

Well then, by that definition, De Colo's not the backup point guard either. When De Colo's on the court, he's also played with Ginobili (as both are bench players). Ginobili plays the role of the playmaker and is responsible for directing the Spurs' plays whilst De Colo find himself in a similar role to Patty, although he's not nearly as effective since he's not as good of a shooter as him.

Therefore, based on your definition, Ginobili's the true backup point guard and De Colo and Patty are shooting guards. The fact of the matter is that as long as Ginobili is played off the bench, he will remain the team's primary play maker and that Patty, De Colo or Neal will most likely be forced to play a spot up shooting role.

[freetiago]

someone needs to gif brook lopez on the bench looking around disappointed
it looked like burks from the jazz playoff game when they were down by 30+

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/darkmatter16/burkssad_zps2afb8a15.gif

[freetiago]

someone needs to gif brook lopez on the bench looking around disappointed
it looked like burks from the jazz playoff game when they were down by 30+

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag88/darkmatter16/burkssad_zps2afb8a15.gif

[Darkwaters]

What's really sad is the fact that Blair attempted 2 shots in the fourth quarter, and was blocked on both attempts. I hope he gets his confidence back.

I don't think it's a matter of confidence at this point. Hes no longer an NBA caliber player and we're seeing the results.

[TE]

From the 2009-10 season

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[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Good win for the Spurs.

Unfortunately for you guys, my team is playing well and our frontcourt will expose yours next Wednesday.

[racm]

Good win for the Spurs.

Unfortunately for you guys, my team is playing well and our frontcourt will expose yours next Wednesday.

Kawhi Leonard is Mbah a Moute with a 3 point shot and more upside, tbh.

[Sean Cagney]

Man...remember when Blair and Bonner were in the primary backup big rotation?


Times have a-changed.

GOOD.