What are the Chances That Manu Retires After the Season? [Archive]

Dr. Robert Lee

01-02-2013, 01:58 AM

I keep on hearing talk about it, but I just don't see it happening, barring a major injury (which is not unlikely, given it's Ginobili, I suppose). His PER is down from last year, but last year he had the highest PER of his career, so this year has still been okay and since he's recovered from his early injury, he's seemed to be as a good as he's ever been.

Unless he's just someone that wants to retire at the height of his game, I guess I just don't see it happening. I think he'll stick around until whenever Timmy retires, which probably won't be at least until after next season and maybe a year or two after that. Ginobili will have to change his game a bit into more of a spot-up three-point shooter, but he's been moving his game towards that focus over the last few years, anyways.

If it does happen, it will be a cold, dark day in hell. :(

spursmartyr

01-02-2013, 02:04 AM

If we win the championship, it's a possibility.

If not, he'll stick around until Timmy retires.

Brunodf

01-02-2013, 02:08 AM

Bruno

01-02-2013, 02:35 AM

Well, If you keep hearing about a possible Manu's retirement at the end of season, it's because he is saying it could be a possibility.

2011 summer:
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/15/manu-ginobili-says-he-plans-to-retire-in-two-years/

The truth is that I haven't set the date of my retirement, but I have two years left on this contract in San Antonio, and I will reach age 36. I think it may be an appropriate age to stop playing.

I always thought about retiring at the highest level

October 2012:
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/10/01/ginobili-contract-no-cause-for-worry/

If I’m going to play next year, it’s highly likely it’s going to be here

BTW, I've said earlier this season that If Manu couldn't play better than what he did, retiring wouldn't be a shame. Truth is that he has raised his level lately and he has reached a point where there are no basketball reasons justifying a retirement.

Anonymous Cowherd

01-02-2013, 07:30 AM

The fact that he's not playing for Argentina in the summer means he's not retiring

Uriel

01-02-2013, 07:31 AM

I actually wouldn't mind Manu retiring by the end of the season. That's because it would likely mean the Spurs just won their 5th championship.

TMTTRIO

01-02-2013, 10:53 AM

I think Manu retires at the end of the season. What more does he really need to compete for? If we win he goes out on top and if we loose what more does he need to compete for? Also I can't see Manu wanting to wait until he has nothing left. He's already had a frustrating season dealing with different kinds of injuries and then struggling to come back and get into rhythm from them. I just can't see Manu wanting to deal with that much longer. I'd say start enjoying these last few games.

Mel_13

01-02-2013, 11:27 AM

I believe that Manu, like Duncan, is addicted to the competition. Only a significant injury or a major decline in his level of play will lead him to retire. I expect him to sign a two year deal and retire with Tim in 2015.

szkorhetz

01-02-2013, 11:38 AM

If we win this year I can easily see both Manu and Timmy retire. If not, it's a whole different game.
(Actually, I would be suprised if we would see Garnett, Kidd and Nash in the NBA next year)

ElNono

01-02-2013, 11:47 AM

I don't even think he's thinking about that right now. He spoke about it in the offseason and that's probably when he will address it unless the Spurs make an offer before then.

TMTTRIO

01-03-2013, 01:28 PM

Also I noticed he said he wanted to end his international career with the 2014 World Championships so I wonder if he would go ahead and retire with the Spurs so he could concentrate on preparing for that.

Bruno

01-03-2013, 02:00 PM

Even if Manu isn't sure if he will play next season, history tells us he will.

The wast majority of NBA players retires because they have either nothing left in the tank or they are too injured to keep playing. IIRC, the last time a productive player retires was in 2005 with Reggie Miller and he was 40 years old.

spurraider21

01-03-2013, 02:37 PM

The fact that he's not playing for Argentina in the summer means he's not retiring
lol. odd logic. it could very easily mean he's done with basketball

superbigtime

01-03-2013, 03:39 PM

If Spurs get to the Finals and win 75%.

TMTTRIO

01-10-2013, 06:24 PM

Speaking of retirement this just came up and it sounds like he wants to continue playing if he's healthy (which is the big question). I'm kind of surprised he wouldn't rather go ahead and retire so he can be with his boys.

The 35-year-old told Fox News Latino that at the beginning of the season his back "was hurting a lot" and he wasn't able to be in shape. "But now I'm feeling well without any pain," he says.
"When you're like that, your desire comes back and you feel good. If everything ended the way it does (today), I will tell you I'd keep playing. I'm not sure until when but I will keep on," he adds.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2013/01/09/how-long-can-manu-ginobili-play/#ixzz2HcMv3eNU

"It's always great being with your family. (But) you never want to miss time on the court. I had the advantage of being able to relax in my home," Ginobili said.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2013/01/09/how-long-can-manu-ginobili-play/#ixzz2HcNRAZzb

Bruno

01-10-2013, 06:37 PM

^Great news. :tu

spurraider21

01-10-2013, 06:42 PM

I'm going to be a depressed basketball fan in a couple of years. I was always torn between Timmy and Manu as far as which was my favorite. Obviously Timmy was the better player and the anchor, but Manu had that quality that makes him so lovable to spurs fans. Seeing these threads about their retirements really hits hard.

timvp

01-10-2013, 06:47 PM

Manu better sign a two-year contract extension in April. It's a must. There's no reason for him to retire. Nash has been playing with a bad back for more than a decade and he keeps plugging along. Ginobili has more game in him.

chapnis

01-10-2013, 07:41 PM

Hopefully he signs on for 2 more years at about 7mil/yr. Would free up sign nice cap space to sign the last piece for a championship side.

AFBlue

01-10-2013, 08:56 PM

The dunks prove he still has enough in the tank to get it done. I'd be shocked if he doesn't come back on a two-year deal. Like Duncan he's a shoe-in to stay in SA, but it'll be interesting to see at what cost.

KL2

01-10-2013, 09:11 PM

I think he'll come back but only if he can remain injury free this season, and how far they can go in the PO's. one more major injury, broken foot/hand/ankle etc. and I think he's done. He's gotta be tired of being setback year after year from injuries.

I think he also said he wouldn't play for the national team this summer? That may be an indictation that Manu does indeed plan to play at least 1 more year and he will use the summer to rest his body.

Richie

01-10-2013, 09:16 PM

In terms of salary, I hope Manu takes something low. The guy is only playing 24min/game at the moment and has missed a significant number of games both this year and last year. With recurrent back spasms, these numbers are more likely to go down than up.

AFBlue

01-10-2013, 09:24 PM

So, what's the comp for salary? Is it the deal Ray Allen supposedly had on the table from the Celtics @ $6M/yr or is it higher?

Richie

01-10-2013, 09:41 PM

I think Manu will get whatever contract he want. If he will only re-sign for $8m/yr, then give it to him. He has earned it. But if we want to get a decent free agent to maximise ours (and Manus) chances to win a championshp, he should probably take less.

Richie

01-10-2013, 09:48 PM

So, what's the comp for salary? Is it the deal Ray Allen supposedly had on the table from the Celtics @ $6M/yr or is it higher?

Well Allen has taken $3m from the Heat for a legit shot at another title. I don't think he would (or should) take anything that low, but if we can convince Manu that him taking a discount salary will give him another legit title shot, maybe he takes it?

Doctor J

01-10-2013, 10:09 PM

Whatever happens at the end of this season, one thing I know is that Manu will remain a Spur forever and he won't be anywhere else.

TDMVPDPOY

01-10-2013, 10:24 PM

should retire and take that hero with him....time for a new era...BAYNE is coming bitches

McGusto55

01-11-2013, 06:29 PM

Hes going when,tims going....

AFBlue

01-12-2013, 08:09 PM

Well Allen has taken $3m from the Heat for a legit shot at another title. I don't think he would (or should) take anything that low, but if we can convince Manu that him taking a discount salary will give him another legit title shot, maybe he takes it?

To me, the $3M Allen took was absurd and an outlier. I think the $6M/yr Boston offered was the "hometown discount" price the Spurs would likely get from Ginobili...would be shocked if it was any lower.

Russ

01-12-2013, 08:41 PM

As the late great Chick Hearn would say

Slim and none.

And Slim just left town. :)

iminol

01-15-2013, 02:12 PM

vet. minimum is OK.

tenbeersbold

01-15-2013, 02:19 PM

Manu shoulda stopped playing during the summer 4 years a go.Dude is too old to play his kinda bball all year long.Fact I'm surprised the Spurs didnt clamp down earlier given his injury propensity the last few years.

I know I would've stopped him,its obvious he cant compete at his level w/o the summers off unless he like being injured constantly

hater

01-15-2013, 05:44 PM

probably 90%

exstatic

01-16-2013, 07:59 AM

To me, the $3M Allen took was absurd and an outlier. I think the $6M/yr Boston offered was the "hometown discount" price the Spurs would likely get from Ginobili...would be shocked if it was any lower.

That's about what I was thinking, somewhere in the vicinity of 2yrs/$13M. The good thing about having Manu is that unlike that butt-crack Allen, he stepped into the bench role YEARS go, and in fact has played it most of his career. If you pay him a bit more than the MLE and have him as your bench captain, that's a huge win. There is no one on the open market that will meet all of those criteria. FAs would expect to start.

exstatic

01-16-2013, 08:04 AM

tenbeersbold

01-16-2013, 09:47 AM

Stop posting.

Manu's PER from the years you said he shouldn't have played.

2011/12 24.1
2010/11 21.7
2009/10 22.5
2008/09 22.9
Stop posting until you take a reading comprehension class
I posted Manu should have stopped playing for Argentina(ie summer ball) about four years a go
as its too much wear and tear on his body as evidenced by his constant injuries the last several years that have impacted the Spurs drive for five.

If you cant see the correlation btwn Manus style of play, his aging and playing BB non-stop through the last several years and his increasing injury propensity I can't help you.But I DO SEE IT

Imagine if Timmy played all year long the last several years,where would the Spurs be at?!??

exstatic

01-16-2013, 07:27 PM

Stop posting until you take a reading comprehension class
I posted Manu should have stopped playing for Argentina(ie summer ball) about four years a go
as its too much wear and tear on his body as evidenced by his constant injuries the last several years that have impacted the Spurs drive for five.

If you cant see the correlation btwn Manus style of play, his aging and playing BB non-stop through the last several years and his increasing injury propensity I can't help you.But I DO SEE IT

Imagine if Timmy played all year long the last several years,where would the Spurs be at?!??

And yet Manu STILL put up PER numbers that correlate to All Star status. The Spurs also cannot stop him from playing, they can only ask.

crc21209

01-16-2013, 07:57 PM

No chance. He has AT LEAST 2 years left....

TMTTRIO

01-16-2013, 10:25 PM

No chance. He has AT LEAST 2 years left....
you do know this is his last year and if he gets one or two more injuries this season I can't see him wanting to come back.

Mel_13

03-04-2013, 11:53 AM

TheGoldStandard

03-04-2013, 04:26 PM

20% chance he retires but it really depends on health and where the spurs finish this year. If the Spurs are successful this year and win a title I'm not sure what that'll spell for the vets, Tim might want to go out as a champ as well as Manu and who would blame them.

elemento

03-04-2013, 04:44 PM

I don't see Manu retiring unless he has a very bad injury this season.

I think he gets a 2-year contract, PO last year.

Mal

03-04-2013, 04:56 PM

He earned to end his career with Spurs, on his terms. I think if continue to play, it wont be for the money, similar to Duncan.

AFBlue

03-04-2013, 06:37 PM

From Buck Harvey's column:

Ginobili will be back next season, though he says there are no guarantees. At his age, he says, it’s year to year.

“But ask me right now,” he said Sunday, “and I’d like to play two more years for sure.”

...

Ginobili’s contract ends this summer. And while he’s currently the highest-paid Spur, it’s likely a hometown compromise could be reached with him as it was with Duncan before.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/03/03/ginobili-heads-to-next-stage-and-next-contract/

FWIW, two years would take him out to the end of Duncan and Parker's current deals, so I don't think he just threw it out there coincidentally. I think the framework is there for a 2yr deal at between $6-8M/yr. I would also think if it's year-to-year as he says, the possibility exists for only a partial guarantee in yr 2.