SPURS are not good against the BEST

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao This thread :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Creation88's last post: 6 days ago.


:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

Here's a thought.. in your eyes these are the best teams this season i'm assuming (Clips, Grizz, Thunder, Heat, and Knicks) Now, out of all those teams come playoff time which do you think will still be playing like they are now?? I think alot of you forget that the playoffs slow the game down, and it shows the weaknesses of the (best) teams if they can't adjust to it. By the way, all the (best) teams lately have been showing they can be beaten easier than one thought (clips, grizz, thunder, heat, and knicks).

[TDMVPDPOY]

Here's a thought.. in your eyes these are the best teams this season i'm assuming (Clips, Grizz, Thunder, Heat, and Knicks) Now, out of all those teams come playoff time which do you think will still be playing like they are now?? I think alot of you forget that the playoffs slow the game down, and it shows the weaknesses of the (best) teams if they can't adjust to it. By the way, all the (best) teams lately have been showing they can be beaten easier than one thought (clips, grizz, thunder, heat, and knicks).

wouldnt that same shit apply to the regular season champs, playoff fodder team spurs?....

[Cry Havoc]

wouldnt that same shit apply to the regular season champs, playoff fodder team spurs?....

Normally it would.

However, I think both Finals contestants are weaker this year than last, whereas I feel the Spurs are stronger with Duncan's resurgence and Tiago looking like a starter. If you look back in NBA playoff history, teams typically need 3 options that can score in a number of ways. Right now OKC has 2. Miami doesn't need 3 because their big 2 are so dominant, but they do seem to be slower this year, and I'm not sure how much gas Wade has left for the playoffs. Hell, even the Heat last Finals needed some players to step up and hit shots. Not sure they can get that this year.

I still say that regardless of regular season success, in crunch time, OKC is going to be less suited to get things done than they were last year. Teams playing hard-nosed playoff defense are going to be much more effective with no Harden in the game.

And don't sleep on Chicago. If Rose comes back that team could easily push Miami to 7 games.

[Hoops Czar]

Here's a thought.. in your eyes these are the best teams this season i'm assuming (Clips, Grizz, Thunder, Heat, and Knicks) Now, out of all those teams come playoff time which do you think will still be playing like they are now?? I think alot of you forget that the playoffs slow the game down, and it shows the weaknesses of the (best) teams if they can't adjust to it. By the way, all the (best) teams lately have been showing they can be beaten easier than one thought (clips, grizz, thunder, heat, and knicks).

Someone should have emailed Pop the gameplan because other than the Grizzies, the Spurs haven't fared well against any of them.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Normally it would.

However, I think both Finals contestants are weaker this year than last, whereas I feel the Spurs are stronger with Duncan's resurgence and Tiago looking like a starter. If you look back in NBA playoff history, teams typically need 3 options that can score in a number of ways. Right now OKC has 2. Miami doesn't need 3 because their big 2 are so dominant, but they do seem to be slower this year, and I'm not sure how much gas Wade has left for the playoffs. Hell, even the Heat last Finals needed some players to step up and hit shots. Not sure they can get that this year.

I still say that regardless of regular season success, in crunch time, OKC is going to be less suited to get things done than they were last year. Teams playing hard-nosed playoff defense are going to be much more effective with no Harden in the game.

And don't sleep on Chicago. If Rose comes back that team could easily push Miami to 7 games.

last 2 seasons spurs wouldve won it all....this team was clicking like well oiled machine

i dont think players not turnin up was a major issue

it was mainly coachin that cost the spurs...

[Cry Havoc]

last 2 seasons spurs wouldve won it all....this team was clicking like well oiled machine

i dont think players not turnin up was a major issue

it was mainly coachin that cost the spurs...

Last two seasons our defense has been awful to very average.

Last two seasons there were a lot more stacked teams in both conferences.

Look around. Boston is done. The Lakers are not winning anything this year. Chicago MIGHT be good but we only have to beat them or Miami (not easy, but possible). I think the Thunder are weaker and very beatable, Memphis looks like they're falling off a cliff, GSW is still a year or two away. The Clips are struggling with health issues, although I think they're going to be tough come playoff time. If we hold down the 1 seed though it will be great watching OKC and LAC knock each other around for 7 games.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Last two seasons our defense has been awful to very average.

Last two seasons there were a lot more stacked teams in both conferences.

Look around. Boston is done. The Lakers are not winning anything this year. Chicago MIGHT be good but we only have to beat them or Miami (not easy, but possible). I think the Thunder are weaker and very beatable, Memphis looks like they're falling off a cliff, GSW is still a year or two away. The Clips are struggling with health issues, although I think they're going to be tough come playoff time. If we hold down the 1 seed though it will be great watching OKC and LAC knock each other around for 7 games.

we wouldve won man, look at the competition the contenders in the easts who they played and was gettin pushed to 6-7 games in the first round/ 2nd round by fodder teams for no apparent reason.....spurs were better than any of the team the celts and heat face in the eastern playoffs, let alone whoever they played in the finals...

coachin rotations and not playing certain players was a huge factor that cost the spurs, the 3 idiots in grey on the sidelines with the jew in the stands didnt help either

[Cry Havoc]

we wouldve won man, look at the competition the contenders in the easts who they played and was gettin pushed to 6-7 games in the first round/ 2nd round by fodder teams for no apparent reason.....spurs were better than any of the team the celts and heat face in the eastern playoffs, let alone whoever they played in the finals...

coachin rotations and not playing certain players was a huge factor that cost the spurs, the 3 idiots in grey on the sidelines with the jew in the stands didnt help either

Duncan should have 6 rings now IMO. The 06 Mavs series and last year against OKC were fucking criminal. But hey, maybe we'll be good enough this year that it won't matter that Stern is out to screw us. I can only hope.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Duncan should have 6 rings now IMO. The 06 Mavs series and last year against OKC were fucking criminal. But hey, maybe we'll be good enough this year that it won't matter that Stern is out to screw us. I can only hope.

06+08 series was lopsided home cooking ive ever seen that the spurs failed to adjust to the bias home cooking that led to their collapse

it didnt help when pop plays the white flag way to early in the game like fkn first quarter where he just shuts it down and give away a free win to the other team....

[ambchang]

So the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine, and they lost because of coaching.

How do you suppose the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine in the first place?

Also, the Spurs, since after 2006, shouldn't have won anything. 2007 was actually relatively lucky, there are glaring holes in the Spurs game (lack of perimeter stopper, average interior offense from 2010 to last year), injuries, average defense overall. The Spurs being a contender through all these years speaks to how good the front office, coach, and players are, collectively.

[TDMVPDPOY]

So the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine, and they lost because of coaching.

How do you suppose the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine in the first place?

Also, the Spurs, since after 2006, shouldn't have won anything. 2007 was actually relatively lucky, there are glaring holes in the Spurs game (lack of perimeter stopper, average interior offense from 2010 to last year), injuries, average defense overall. The Spurs being a contender through all these years speaks to how good the front office, coach, and players are, collectively.

if ur winninig alot of games and seeded top3 in the west with top 4 record in the league, if that aint well oiled machine...then what do you call that?

[ambchang]

if ur winninig alot of games and seeded top3 in the west with top 4 record in the league, if that aint well oiled machine...then what do you call that?

So how they they get to that stage in the first place? They just some how played into it? What about the other 3 teams with better records, were they well oiled machines as well?

[TDMVPDPOY]

So how they they get to that stage in the first place? They just some how played into it? What about the other 3 teams with better records, were they well oiled machines as well?

so ur downplaying those other 3 teams are pretenders, if they are pretenders why did the spurs lose to them?

[look_at_g_shred]

wouldnt that same shit apply to the regular season champs, playoff fodder team spurs?....

First off this thread is about how the Spurs don't fare against the league's (best) So whoever made it is implying the spurs are not playing well at the moment. So who's to say the Spurs don't turn it up come April and the tables are turned...

[ambchang]

we wouldve won man, look at the competition the contenders in the easts who they played and was gettin pushed to 6-7 games in the first round/ 2nd round by fodder teams for no apparent reason.....spurs were better than any of the team the celts and heat face in the eastern playoffs, let alone whoever they played in the finals...

coachin rotations and not playing certain players was a huge factor that cost the spurs, the 3 idiots in grey on the sidelines with the jew in the stands didnt help either


last 2 seasons spurs wouldve won it all....this team was clicking like well oiled machine

i dont think players not turnin up was a major issue

it was mainly coachin that cost the spurs...


so ur downplaying those other 3 teams are pretenders, if they are pretenders why did the spurs lose to them?

It was actually you who were downplaying those other 3 teams. The Spurs would have won? What? Were they destined or something?

You said the Spurs would have won the last two seasons because they were playing like a well-oiled machine, then what were the three teams with better records playing like? Broken machines?

[therealtruth]

So the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine, and they lost because of coaching.

How do you suppose the Spurs were playing like a well-oiled machine in the first place?

Also, the Spurs, since after 2006, shouldn't have won anything. 2007 was actually relatively lucky, there are glaring holes in the Spurs game (lack of perimeter stopper, average interior offense from 2010 to last year), injuries, average defense overall. The Spurs being a contender through all these years speaks to how good the front office, coach, and players are, collectively.

The Spurs definitely got lucky in '07 and you would think that would be the signal to them to reload for the next run. Instead they give Scola away for nothing.

[Mel_13]

For use by the meltdowners in the event that the Spurs go to 0-3 v the Clips tonight.

You're welcome.

[Kidd K]

Someone should have emailed Pop the gameplan because other than the Grizzies, the Spurs haven't fared well against any of them.

In the interest of getting out all the facts, many of the games we've played against "good teams" were either very early in the season, or the second night of b2bs and about half of which were on the road too.

In other words, very difficult to win games. I doubt the Spurs' record against good teams with a day of rest beforehand is poor. And that's what I'd look at, because you always get a day of rest between games in the playoffs unless it's a strike shortended season.

[Pop]

In the interest of getting out all the facts, many of the games we've played against "good teams" were either very early in the season, or the second night of b2bs and about half of which were on the road too.

In other words, very difficult to win games. I doubt the Spurs' record against good teams with a day of rest beforehand is poor. And that's what I'd look at, because you always get a day of rest between games in the playoffs unless it's a strike shortended season.

The OKC win was the first or second game right (and we were still down 5 or so 1 minute before the end), so our best win doesn't mean much if anything, thanks for pointing that out...

[Fireball]

Lets see what happens tonight ...

[Darkwaters]

The Spurs definitely got lucky in '07 and you would think that would be the signal to them to reload for the next run. Instead they give Scola away for nothing.

Scola thread!

[Kidd K]

The OKC win was the first or second game right (and we were still down 5 or so 1 minute before the end), so our best win doesn't mean much if anything, thanks for pointing that out...

Right, that win doesn't mean anything besides the W in the standings. I have the same standards for my own team than I do every other team. I'm not a hypocrite :P I'm glad we got that win, but it didn't mean we were better than the Thunder this year. If we beat them in our next game, then we can talk about it. Though, if it's a b2b, and Manu is hurt, etc etc, then the game won't mean anything if we lose.

I only take games seriously that aren't part of b2bs, are at least halfway (preferably more) into the season, and the key guys on both teams are healthy. Otherwise, loses in other circumstances don't bother me much, and the wins don't get me too choked up either.

[Hoops Czar]

Right, that win doesn't mean anything besides the W in the standings. I have the same standards for my own team than I do every other team. I'm not a hypocrite :P I'm glad we got that win, but it didn't mean we were better than the Thunder this year. If we beat them in our next game, then we can talk about it. Though, if it's a b2b, and Manu is hurt, etc etc, then the game won't mean anything if we lose.

I only take games seriously that aren't part of b2bs, are at least halfway (preferably more) into the season, and the key guys on both teams are healthy. Otherwise, loses in other circumstances don't bother me much, and the wins don't get me too choked up either.

Good point.... when players are healthy!!! So we really can't use last year as a guide against a team like the Clippers. A hobbled CP3, no Crawford, Bledsoe, Barnes or Odom, and Blake Griffin couldn't knock down a jumpshot. Hell, the Clippers made their move in the offseason. It doesn't help matters when the Clippers D is specifically designed to stop Tony Parker. In two games vs the Clippers, he's scored 4 points and 11 points respectively. If there was ever a need to make a move at the deadline this was it.

[Brunodf]

Good point.... when players are healthy!!! So we really can't use last year as a guide against a team like the Clippers. A hobbled CP3, no Crawford, Bledsoe, Barnes or Odom, and Blake Griffin couldn't knock down a jumpshot. Hell, the Clippers made their move in the offseason. It doesn't help matters when the Clippers D is specifically designed to stop Tony Parker. In two games vs the Clippers, he's scored 4 points and 11 points respectively. If there was ever a need to make a move at the deadline this was it.

We will see tonight, TP is playing much better and he has an elite PnR player on the team this time.

[Kidd K]

Good point.... when players are healthy!!! So we really can't use last year as a guide against a team like the Clippers. A hobbled CP3, no Crawford, Bledsoe, Barnes or Odom, and Blake Griffin couldn't knock down a jumpshot. Hell, the Clippers made their move in the offseason. It doesn't help matters when the Clippers D is specifically designed to stop Tony Parker. In two games vs the Clippers, he's scored 4 points and 11 points respectively. If there was ever a need to make a move at the deadline this was it.

Are you referring to the postseason? Yeah, we shouldn't have swept them last year. I think we would've won anyway, but we definitely don't "have their number" exactly.

Tonight the Spurs are up big even without Leonard and Duncan not playing many minutes. Clippers are pretty healthy right now from what I can tell; at least their major guys are. I don't consider Odom a major guy anymore btw. God damn how they guy's career just tanked fast!

I realize this is after you said your comment, but the Clippers' D' has had no answer for TP tonight. Parker sucked earlier in the season (when we played our two games against Clippers), because he didn't fully recover from his eye injury yet. He was bad against everyone; remember all the "dump TP" threads by knee jerk reactionists? :P TP's playing much, much better now. Arguably top 1-3 PG in the league caliber.

[Halberto]

Spurs shitting down their throats right now

[timtonymanu]

Where's the OP now?

[Embedded]

And since Mr. Leonard didn't play, the Clipper's coach didn't get to prep for our true starting lineup. Brilliant!

[Brunodf]

:lolOP

[capek]

How can Spurs fans not all understand the concept of SPAM? :nope

Spurs just doing it a little early this year :tu

[ChumpDumper]

It doesn't help matters when the Clippers D is specifically designed to stop Tony Parker. In two games vs the Clippers, he's scored 4 points and 11 points respectively. If there was ever a need to make a move at the deadline this was it.crofl

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Jesus, Spurs, we get it--y'all are good no matter WHO is on the floor. Why y'all have to depants the Clips in front of their home crowd like that tho?

[EricB]

Lmao @ Hoops Czar

[Hoops Czar]

crofl


Lmao @ Hoops Czar

So basically you waited til after the game to call me out. Yeah, that does deserve a CROFL.

[Darkwaters]

So basically you waited til after the game to call me out. Yeah, that does deserve a CROFL.

You act as though you didn't deserve to be called out.

[weeks]

i'll admit i got a little worried earlier during the season bc it seemed like we weren't performing as well against the top teams as our record and skill set would predict

[Creation88]

Where's the OP now?

i'm right here. i was going to bump this thread as soon as i woke up. don't kid yourself, i'm not going anywhere.

last night was a demolition. TP firmly put his name out there as the best PG in the league and pants CP3 all night. You can definitely tell the team was motivated last night. The key was definitely limiting the Clippers easy baskets, something we failed to do in the 1st two games. definitely a step in the right direction against the leagues best.

[Fireball]

i'll admit i got a little worried earlier during the season bc it seemed like we weren't performing as well against the top teams as our record and skill set would predict

But Manu and/or Kawhi were out in these games as well ... at least it did not have an impact that Kawhi was missing last nights game

[illusioNtEk]

screw you OP, never doubt the spurs you banwagon fan gtfo

[Mel_13]

i'm right here. i was going to bump this thread as soon as i woke up. don't kid yourself, i'm not going anywhere.

last night was a demolition. TP firmly put his name out there as the best PG in the league and pants CP3 all night. You can definitely tell the team was motivated last night. The key was definitely limiting the Clippers easy baskets, something we failed to do in the 1st two games. definitely a step in the right direction against the leagues best.

The points you tried to make in the OP have long been overcome by events. It's not a big deal. Updating the records in the OP, however, is positively Fabbs-like. Just let it go.

[Creation88]

screw you OP, never doubt the spurs you banwagon fan gtfo

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[ChumpDumper]

So basically you waited til after the game to call me out. Yeah, that does deserve a CROFL.I didn't read your stupid post until then.

And what difference does it make? Explain.

[Horse]

That looked like the Spurs offense from last year. A dominant win against a top team. Now please go Fuck Yourself and quit whining!

[Hoops Czar]

You act as though you didn't deserve to be called out.

I thught regular season games are meaningless? I guess in Spurstalk language, it means Spurs losses are meaningless while Spurs wins mean everything. The Clippers had a bad game just like the Spurs did in their first meeting against the Lakers last season. And if you're going to call me out, you'd best be doing in the postseason because I too watched last year's western conference finals.


I didn't read your stupid post until then.

And what difference does it make? Explain.
Anyone can play monday morning quarterback. You would have been nowhere to be found had the Spurs lost by 26. I thought my point was pretty obvious.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hoops Czar is known for his terrible predictions in the NBA forum, tbh..

If he chooses one team, betting on the opposite is usually a lock, tbh..

[Darkwaters]

Hoops Czar is known for his terrible predictions in the NBA forum, tbh..

If he chooses one team, betting on the opposite is usually a lock, tbh..

The Anti-Oracle?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This thread is a shitstorm over nothing. :rolleyes

The Spurs often build good records by feasting on poor and average teams early while losing to good ones. We've seen this happen time and again over the past decade. And then sometime in January someone notices that we have a poor early record against good teams and panics. And then they start a thread about it. But actually, WHO FUCKING CARES?

Yes, it would be nice to be dominant and beat everyone, good and bad, over the entire season, but that's simply not reality. The reality is SPAM - Pop tries to arrange things so that his team is getting nasty and beating good opponents in March and April, and then rolls into the playoffs on a high. Whether or not the Spurs beat good teams early means no more than 1 game in the W/L column.

The NBA season is all about peaking at the right time. Last year Pop was a master conductor, orchestrated the rhythm of the season perfectly, and we still lost in the WCFs to that ridiculous shooting by OKC... which just goes to show that you can plan everything perfectly and still come out a loser in the NBA, and that a few losses to good teams in Nov-Dec DOESN'T MEAN A THING.

/thread

Read, learn, remember.

SPAM starts on the RRT, and this one has been no exception with statment games against Brooklyn, Chi-town and the Clips. Hold on for the ride because it'll be even more fun from here on in. ;)

[racm]

Read, learn, remember.

SPAM starts on the RRT, and this one has been no exception with statment games against Brooklyn, Chi-town and the Clips. Hold on for the ride because it'll be even more fun from here on in. ;)

:lmao losing to the freaking Warriors

[Sean Cagney]

:lmao losing to the freaking Warriors

Not sure if serious, but they were at home and a playoff team. I mean it's possible to lose to them.

[Hoops Czar]

Hoops Czar is known for his terrible predictions in the NBA forum, tbh..

If he chooses one team, betting on the opposite is usually a lock, tbh..

Still choking on lebron's cock way too much to take anything you post seriously. But I'll take your crooked advice just this once... Miami will win the NBA championship. I'm sorry to do this to you Harlem, but I'm not a Lebron fan .

[ChumpDumper]

Anyone can play monday morning quarterback. You would have been nowhere to be found had the Spurs lost by 26. I thought my point was pretty obvious.Yes, it's obvious you are butthurt because you were so wrong and people are laughing at you.

Tough shit. Don't be so wrong next time.

[Hoops Czar]

Yes, it's obvious you are butthurt because you were so wrong and people are laughing at you.

Tough shit. Don't be so wrong next time. No problem. People laugh at you all the time. Parker had 15 points in the first two meetings this year.

In last years playoffs, he shot a combined 36% from the field in 4 postseason games. That's not wrong, that's fact. As far as beating quality teams, if the Spurs continue to rely on Tony Parker to do everything on offense, they won't survive the WCF's. Feel free to bookmark this post.

[therealtruth]

No problem. People laugh at you all the time. Parker had 15 points in the first two meetings this year.

In last years playoffs, he shot a combined 36% from the field in 4 postseason games. That's not wrong, that's fact. As far as beating quality teams, if the Spurs continue to rely on Tony Parker to do everything on offense, they won't survive the WCF's. Feel free to bookmark this post.

Sam Mitchell said it on GameTime that you can stop Tony Parker by creating your gameplan around stopping him. That's why the Spurs need Manu and TD to be able to create offense. TD's got to be effective on the block and Manu off the dribble. TP can't rely on shooters to bail him out. Their role players and asking them to hit contested shots isn't going to work. We need to be able to create consistent offense without TP.

[racm]

Sam Mitchell said it on GameTime that you can stop Tony Parker by creating your gameplan around stopping him. That's why the Spurs need Manu and TD to be able to create offense. TD's got to be effective on the block and Manu off the dribble. TP can't rely on shooters to bail him out. Their role players and asking them to hit contested shots isn't going to work. We need to be able to create consistent offense without TP.

Playing KL on the block and off the dribble as opposed to just being there in the corner helps too.

[BatManu20]

From what I've seen with how OKC played us last year and the way GS defended Tony with Thompson, the Spurs are going to have to learn to play a different way in the playoffs against certain opponents. We can't rely on Tony to do everything for us. When they defend the PnR that way, our offense really struggles. And, I don't have much faith in our role players suddenly creating offense. They're good at what they do, and that's hitting spot up jump shots. It's going to have to be Manu off the dribble, or maybe even Kawhi in the post, because Timmy's post game is a shadow of what it used to be. You can't count at that aspect anymore, at least not consistently. Someone else is going to have to step up. Should be interesting to see if we can make that adjustment or not.

[ChumpDumper]

No problem. People laugh at you all the time.Not because I'm terrible at predictions like you.
Parker had 15 points in the first two meetings this year.And you made your prediction solely bvased on the boxscores you sniffed. It bit you in the ass hard.


In last years playoffs, he shot a combined 36% from the field in 4 postseason games. That's not wrong, that's fact. As far as beating quality teams, if the Spurs continue to rely on Tony Parker to do everything on offense, they won't survive the WCF's. Feel free to bookmark this post.Yeah, I'll file it under "shit everyone already knew for years."

[Brunodf]

From what I've seen with how OKC played us last year and the way GS defended Tony with Thompson, the Spurs are going to have to learn to play a different way in the playoffs against certain opponents. We can't rely on Tony to do everything for us. When they defend the PnR that way, our offense really struggles. And, I don't have much faith in our role players suddenly creating offense. They're good at what they do, and that's hitting spot up jump shots. It's going to have to be Manu off the dribble, or maybe even Kawhi in the post, because Timmy's post game is a shadow of what it used to be. You can't count at that aspect anymore, at least not consistently. Someone else is going to have to step up. Should be interesting to see if we can make that adjustment or not.

1)If Sefalosha is on TP, the Spurs should go big(Kawhi at SG and Jack at SF) and post up Kawhi or Jack vs Westbrick.
2)Run the PnR with Manu/Splitter
3)Run the PnR with Kawhi/Duncan

[BatManu20]

1)If Sefalosha is on TP, the Spurs should go big(Kawhi at SG and Jack at SF) and post up Kawhi or Jack vs Westbrick.
2)Run the PnR with Manu/Splitter
3)Run the PnR with Kawhi/Duncan

That's a pretty good remedy, but it puts a lot of pressure on JAX and Kawhi to score consistently in the post. Not saying they can't, just saying. Also, it takes away our biggest 3 point threat in Green. It'll turn into a grind-it-out type of game at that point, where we have to rely a lot on our defense.

[BatManu20]

Side note: The Lakers are going to make the playoffs. They're playing well now, and are 11-4 in their last 15. They're only 3 games back of the 8th seed, and I have no faith in Utah or Houston to continue winning (both lost last night too). The Lakers have a pretty easy schedule coming up. They play Denver, OKC, and Indiana in 3 of their next 17 games, but the other 14 are all very winnable games against lesser opponents in which they'll be favored.

My point being, if/when they make the playoffs, they might even make the 7 seed, so we wouldn't even play them in the 1st round unless we were to slip and get the #2 seed.

[Brunodf]

That's a pretty good remedy, but it puts a lot of pressure on JAX and Kawhi to score consistently in the post. Not saying they can't, just saying. Also, it takes away our biggest 3 point threat in Green. It'll turn into a grind-it-out type of game at that point, where we have to rely a lot on our defense.

He wasn't a big threat vs OKC...

[spurraider21]

:lol acting like the warriors are a team we will struggle against. we won something like 16 consecutive games against the warriors prior to this game, and we lost on the 2nd of a road back to back in overtime a day after mauling the clippers. losing a road game on the 2nd of back to back against a playoff team is not a sign of weakness

[spurraider21]

He wasn't a big threat vs OKC...

If we are going to win anything, we will have to trust role players to fill their roles. Just because Green came up short last year doesn't mean we need to abandon him. He's our best shooter right now. Keep in mind last season was essentially Green's rookie season in that he had played about 200 minutes in his career prior to last year. Tony Parker was struggling in 03 against the Nets... and in that specific series Speedy Claxton was clutch. Doesn't mean the team needed to bench Parker for Claxton the next season. We didn't bench Parker for Steve Kerr after the Mavs series.

[Brunodf]

If we are going to win anything, we will have to trust role players to fill their roles. Just because Green came up short last year doesn't mean we need to abandon him. He's our best shooter right now. Keep in mind last season was essentially Green's rookie season in that he had played about 200 minutes in his career prior to last year. Tony Parker was struggling in 03 against the Nets... and in that specific series Speedy Claxton was clutch. Doesn't mean the team needed to bench Parker for Claxton the next season. We didn't bench Parker for Steve Kerr after the Mavs series.

I am not saying to abandon Green, just talking about some different ways to play.

[BatManu20]

:lol acting like the warriors are a team we will struggle against. we won something like 16 consecutive games against the warriors prior to this game, and we lost on the 2nd of a road back to back in overtime a day after mauling the clippers. losing a road game on the 2nd of back to back against a playoff team is not a sign of weakness

I never said we'd struggle against the Warriors. If you read the post correctly, I said that the Spurs struggle offensively when an opposing team puts a bigger defender on Tony, which is completely true. It's a big part of the reason why we lost in the WCF last year. I merely used Golden State as an example, because they did the same thing OKC did, and it was pretty effective for a large part of the game, regardless of whether it was a back-to-back game.

[spurraider21]

He wasn't a big threat vs OKC...


I am not saying to abandon Green, just talking about some different ways to play.

Point being, just because he was cold in a series one year ago doesn't mean we have to go away from whats been our bread and butter this year. We can't play this season afraid of last season

[spurraider21]

I never said we'd struggle against the Warriors. If you read the post correctly, I said that the Spurs struggle offensively when an opposing team puts a bigger defender on Tony, which is completely true. It's a big part of the reason why we lost in the WCF last year. I merely used Golden State as an example, because they did the same thing OKC did, and it was pretty effective for a large part of the game, regardless of whether it was a back-to-back game.

was referring to this tbh. my bad for not quoting originally


:lmao losing to the freaking Warriors

[Brunodf]

Point being, just because he was cold in a series one year ago doesn't mean we have to go away from whats been our bread and butter this year. We can't play this season afraid of last season
:bangi am not saying to go away or anything like that, but we should have new options on offense:rolleyes

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

:lmao losing to the freaking Warriors

Losing to the Warriors was entirely predictable - 2nd of a btb on 8th game of trip when they're getting tired and Warriors really need a win. In fact, I predicted it before the RRT.

[benefactor]

Losing to the Warriors was entirely predictable - 2nd of a btb on 8th game of trip when they're getting tired and Warriors really need a win. In fact, I predicted it before the RRT.

Wed 6@ Minnesota W
Fri 8@ Detroit W
Sun 10@ Brooklyn L
Mon 11@ Chicago W
Wed 13@ Cleveland W
Tue 19@ Sacramento W
Thu 21@ L.A. Clippers W
Fri 22@ Golden State L
Sun 24@ Phoenix W
:tu

Missed a perfect prediction by one night.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

:tu

Missed a perfect prediction by one night.

Me too. I got Detroit and Brooklyn right, but thought we'd lose to Chi-town... oh, and we still have to beat the Suns! :lol

[Hoops Czar]

Not because I'm terrible at predictions like you.

No. You're just terrible at everything else.


And you made your prediction solely bvased on the boxscores you sniffed. It bit you in the ass hard.

LOL at being wrong about a prediction that hasn't occurred yet. LOL at having a conversation with a 5th grader who reads at a first grade level.


Yeah, I'll file it under "shit everyone already knew for years."

since 2012. That's not years. The Spurs haven't been this reliant on one player since the admiral.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL at being wrong about a prediction that hasn't occurred yet. LOL at having a conversation with a 5th grader who reads at a first grade level.Then why are you so butthurt about our laughing at you?

Because you were wrong.

Just quit crying and maybe someone will respect you.

Probably not because you are a terrible poster, but maybe.

[Creation88]

hoping for a W without Tony...

[timtonymanu]

Bump

Same story, different year for the cliff jumpers

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Cliff jumper thread.

[HarlemHeat37]

fkla is a delusional fan. what have the spurs done this season to make you think they will get past the 2nd round? can you point to a signature win? hmmmm. didn't think so.

:lol, my nigga Robdiaz with the reverse-jinx shtick, tbh..

[RD2191]

:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol this thread is a compilation of some of the shittiest posters on ST with their usual terrible predictions, tbh, rascal and Hoops Czar in particular, tbh:lol..

[Cry Havoc]

:lol this thread is a compilation of some of the shittiest posters on ST with their usual terrible predictions, tbh, rascal and Hoops Czar in particular, tbh:lol..

Harlem bringing it. Cliff jumpers should get pinked tbh.

[rascal]

:lol this thread is a compilation of some of the shittiest posters on ST with their usual terrible predictions, tbh, rascal and Hoops Czar in particular, tbh:lol..

What terrible prediction did I make in this thread?

[Embedded]

Hmmm a 26 point away win against the #1 team in the East.

[ABC]

^
With the best home record in the NBA.

[DesignatedT]

The Spurs have the softest front line of the top teams in the league.

[spursfaninla]

Indiana is a shell of the team that earned their current record. They were a good team for the 3rd quarter, and they are a defensive force overall. But they simply can't score. These next few games will be a much stronger test.

[ElNono]

:lol December meltdowns...

there's a bunch of thread like these, tbh...

[TD 21]

:lol December meltdowns...

there's a bunch of thread like these, tbh...

If by "meltdowns" you mean critiques, they were deserved . . . and nothing's changed. Parker and Duncan are still nowhere near last season's level and I still don't like them against the Thunder.

[ElNono]

If by "meltdowns" you mean critiques, they were deserved . . . and nothing's changed. Parker and Duncan are still nowhere near last season's level and I still don't like them against the Thunder.

No, by meltdowns I mean meltdowns... like knee jerking over a couple losses and start calling the FO "negligent" :lmao

They might not win it all this season, but writing them off in december was stupid as stupid can be.

[TD 21]

No, by meltdowns I mean meltdowns... like knee jerking over a couple losses and start calling the FO "negligent" :lmao

They might not win it all this season, but writing them off in december was stupid as stupid can be.

They're absolutely negligent and the fact that the team has one again bailed them out (in the regular season, at least) doesn't change that.

Not when nothing's changed, it isn't.

[ElNono]

:lmao

[ElNono]

tbh, I just hope your self-proclaimed "vast" knowledge foretold you about this team just doing what no other Spurs team of ANY ERA has EVER been able to do...

If not, you gotta keep learning...

[313]

tbh, I just hope your self-proclaimed "vast" knowledge foretold you about this team just doing what no other Spurs team of ANY ERA has EVER been able to do...

If not, you gotta keep learning...

20 straight in 2012 tbh

[ElNono]

20 straight in 2012 tbh

that's RS + playoffs... this mark is the new RS record...

[TD 21]

tbh, I just hope your self-proclaimed "vast" knowledge foretold you about this team just doing what no other Spurs team of ANY ERA has EVER been able to do...

If not, you gotta keep learning...

You can never predict win streaks like this. Sure, you can throw it out there, but even if you sense a team is due for a good stretch, there's never reason to think it'll get to this point. So I'm obviously surprised, but I'm not shocked.

Still, it means nothing as far as the big picture is concerned. They had a 20 gamer two seasons ago and we all know how that turned out. The Clippers had a 17 gamer last season and lost in the 1st round and the Heat had a 27 gamer and were a single play away from not winning the championship.

I'm not trying to put a negative spin on this, I'm just trying to maintain perspective. You can't refute what I said about the things I was concerned about in December not having changed.

[lefty]

:lol

[lefty]

lol Pacers are not one of THE BEST

[ElNono]

You can never predict win streaks like this. Sure, you can throw it out there, but even if you sense a team is due for a good stretch, there's never reason to think it'll get to this point. So I'm obviously surprised, but I'm not shocked.

Still, it means nothing as far as the big picture is concerned. They had a 20 gamer two seasons ago and we all know how that turned out. The Clippers had a 17 gamer last season and lost in the 1st round and the Heat had a 27 gamer and were a single play away from not winning the championship.

I'm not trying to put a negative spin on this, I'm just trying to maintain perspective. You can't refute what I said about the things I was concerned about in December not having changed.

But it was a negative spin in december, and now is "I'm not sold". I said back in December that this team needed time to grow, and they'll either come together or they won't. And for all intents and purposes, they did. They're currently the best team in the league, not just record-wise, but also beating the other top teams in the league (and actually handing out beatdowns). So on that aspect, yeah, you can consider your december concerns addressed. Will they stay healthy or be able to maintain this level in the playoffs? neither you or I know that, but all we can do is hope that they do, and at the very least we know that they can play like THIS.

The Spurs are not the only team with flaws. Every team has them. OKC, Rockets, Clippers, Miami... they all have them one way or another. The Spurs have done an admirable job of masking them, and that's what got them to this point. Why not celebrate it?

[Horry Hipcheck]

I think the biggest takeaway from the streak is not what it has meant for other teams historically. That means absolutely nothing. Rather, it's how the Spurs have done it. They're DESTROYING opponents, and not even at full strength sometimes. We all know the team can play better, both collectively and on an individual level. They've taken two from Golden State this season with the B team, and throughout the streak we've seen role players step in to pick up slack from the starters. Belinelli exploded for 27 the other night when Parker barely showed up.

The streak isn't happening because the Spurs have the accelerator on the floor. It's happening because they're throwing a healthy amount of roster depth at their opponents and playing the type of ball Pop has instituted since 2011-2012. Parker practically vanished for a stretch of games this week, Duncan didn't crack ten points tonight, Green is a little hobbled. And yet we've been watching this team's point differential creep up every night and OKC, Miami, and Indy slip further back in the rear view mirror.

What at happened to Houston after a 22 game streak, the Spurs after reeling off 20, or Miami after 27 doesn't have any implications for this. The Spurs are playing at maybe 85% tops, swapping players in where needed, and the gears are shifting smoothly right now. It should be a promising sign that the team maintains such an intensity regardless of who's on the floor. The Spurs will be a tough out if they can throw an endless stream of aggression on both ends of the floor at the likes of Houston and OKC.

[tmtcsc]

They're absolutely negligent and the fact that the team has one again bailed them out (in the regular season, at least) doesn't change that.

Not when nothing's changed, it isn't.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3952069/Brian-Regan-Dumb-Look.gif

[TD 21]

But it was a negative spin in december, and now is "I'm not sold". I said back in December that this team needed time to grow, and they'll either come together or they won't. And for all intents and purposes, they did. They're currently the best team in the league, not just record-wise, but also beating the other top teams in the league (and actually handing out beatdowns). So on that aspect, yeah, you can consider your december concerns addressed. Will they stay healthy or be able to maintain this level in the playoffs? neither you or I know that, but all we can do is hope that they do, and at the very least we know that they can play like THIS.

The Spurs are not the only team with flaws. Every team has them. OKC, Rockets, Clippers, Miami... they all have them one way or another. The Spurs have done an admirable job of masking them, and that's what got them to this point. Why not celebrate it?

No, it was a realistic assessment. Have they really "grown" though or did they just plain get healthy and more motivated? We all knew they were capable of looking like the best team in the league, but the big picture concerns from earlier in the season are still there.

The Thunder have Durant and the Heat have James, which gives them a greater room for error. Even the Rockets and Clippers, despite being inferior to the Spurs, in a certain respect have that over them, because their two best players are essentially in their prime.

Why not celebrate it? Because of the last two years, because of their ongoing inability to look like themselves against the Thunder and because they don't have anyone playing at a top ten, much less five, level.

[ElNono]

No, it was a realistic assessment. Have they really "grown" though or they just they plain get healthy? We all knew they were capable of looking like the best team in the league, but the big picture concerns from earlier in the season are still there.

The Thunder have Durant and the Heat have James, which gives them a greater room for error. Even the Rockets and Clippers, despite being inferior to the Spurs, have that over them, because their two best players are essentially in their prime.

Nah, there's no injury excuse. Our new guys were just starting to gel, and the defense just wasn't there yet. Now they're clicking on both ends. Obviously, demoting Errors helped. Guys like Boris and Patty are in a rhythm now, and guys like Beli understand where to be and what to do. Being healthy will always be a priority, but this team has come a long way, IMO.


Why not celebrate it? Because of the last two years, because of their ongoing inability to look like themselves against the Thunder and because they don't have anyone playing at a top ten, much less five, level.

What are you afraid of, a heart-break? That's what being a fan is all about. I still don't really share your concern about the Thunder. They won't be a walk in the park, but if healthy, I think we can take them.

The whole "only appreciate when they win a championship" thing is really spoiled stuff. This is a great team (one of the best Spurs teams, IMO), regardless if they lift the LOBT next June or not. Last year, they were also a great team, regardless of the ball bouncing a different way. Everybody wants to win every year, and I'm sure the Spurs aim for that every season, but it's unrealistic. I'll save the "negligent" stuff when we actually have a team that can't even sniff the playoffs.

EDIT: FWIW, it's not just the Spurs. The Heat lost in 2010, and they were a great team too, IMO.

[TD 21]

Nah, there's no injury excuse. Our new guys were just starting to gel, and the defense just wasn't there yet. Now they're clicking on both ends. Obviously, demoting Errors helped. Guys like Boris and Patty are in a rhythm now, and guys like Beli understand where to be and what to do. Being healthy will always be a priority, but this team has come a long way, IMO.



What are you afraid of, a heart-break? That's what being a fan is all about. I still don't really share your concern about the Thunder. They won't be a walk in the park, but if healthy, I think we can take them.

The whole "only appreciate when they win a championship" thing is really spoiled stuff. This is a great team (one of the best Spurs teams, IMO), regardless if they lift the LOBT next June or not. Last year, they were also a great team, regardless of the ball bouncing a different way. Everybody wants to win every year, and I'm sure the Spurs aim for that every season, but it's unrealistic. I'll save the "negligent" stuff when we actually have a team that can't even sniff the playoffs.

EDIT: FWIW, it's not just the Spurs. The Heat lost in 2010, and they were a great team too, IMO.

When you have as many as they had, it's a legitimate reason. Granted, they were healthy for a number of those games against elite teams early though. As far as gelling, Belinelli did instantly and Ayres still hasn't, so nothing's changed in that regard. Sure, Mills was new to the rotation, but he instantly gelled too.

I'm not afraid, I'm just not getting sucked in. You need a top five player or at least someone playing at that level to win it all and they don't have it. If that changes in the playoffs, they've got a chance.

Of course I appreciate them, but it's old hat at this point. It's championship or bust.

Building a team with one player who's a natural at a certain position is absolutely negligent, particularly when said position is the one that features the two players standing between you and a championship.

[Sean Cagney]

that's RS + playoffs... this mark is the new RS record...

Yes but to me the 10 straight in the playoffs added on to the 10 RS is more impressive! that is just very hard to do. Too bad they had to lose 4 straight after that magical run :(

[ElNono]

When you have as many as they had, it's a legitimate reason. Granted, they were healthy for a number of those games against elite teams early though. As far as gelling, Belinelli did instantly and Ayres still hasn't, so nothing's changed in that regard. Sure, Mills was new to the rotation, but he instantly gelled too.

Ayres is not going to play in the playoffs, barring injury. I said it back then, and I think we're seeing that now. I do think Pop ran a bit longer than I thought with him, but it's clear he has the new "Dejuan Blair minute burner" role.

Beli has come a long way, and I thought Patty has elevated his game since the RRT, especially while Tony was out. There's palpable growth within the system there, IMO, and some of these games against top teams have shown they can be counted on when it matters, which was not always the case last season. We're always going to be reliant on our Big 4 (TP/TD/Manu/Kawhi) and secondary Big 3 (Green/Splitter/Diaw)... but all teams rely on their best players, so nothing new there.


I'm not afraid, I'm just not getting sucked in. You need a top five player or at least someone playing at that level to win it all and they don't have it. If that changes in the playoffs, they've got a chance.

Of course I appreciate them, but it's old hat at this point. It's championship or bust.

I think they should be appreciated exactly because they don't have a top 5 player. I think the bar of "championship or bust" effectively changed when we stopped having a top 5 player, it's what happens to most every team.

But there's no need to be scared. They got game, and the league itself isn't full of world-beaters these days.

[ElNono]

Yes but to me the 10 straight in the playoffs added on to the 10 RS is more impressive! that is just very hard to do. Too bad they had to lose 4 straight after that magical run :(

That team though wasn't anywhere near as good defensively (ranked #11 in the RS, #8 in the playoffs). You just knew eventually when the ball stopped going in, it was going to be a struggle because we didn't have the defensive tools yet. I thought last season we were much better prepared (and this season too).

[SpursFan86]

I don't understand how any Spurs fan could not be excited about the way this team is looking this year. This is the best we've looked in I don't know how long. In 2012 we weren't elite defensively and relied more on our offense. This year we're the 3rd best defense in the league and don't rely as heavily on our offense.

Obviously making it to the Finals will be tough this year given how good the West is, but I think we have the best chance out of anyone aside from maybe a healthy OKC. Even then, I like our chances with HCA against them. No one is guaranteeing a championship or anything...but there is reason to be excited.

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't understand how any Spurs fan could not be excited about the way this team is looking this year. This is the best we've looked in I don't know how long. In 2012 we weren't elite defensively and relied more on our offense. This year we're the 3rd best defense in the league and don't rely as heavily on our offense.

Obviously making it to the Finals will be tough this year given how good the West is, but I think we have the best chance out of anyone aside from maybe a healthy OKC. Even then, I like our chances with HCA against them. No one is guaranteeing a championship or anything...but there is reason to be excited.

Cause we've seen this shit before this offense is predicated on handlers slashing and making the open 3. The latter of which has been a fickle bitch in the playoffs over the years

[ElNono]

Cause we've seen this shit before this offense is predicated on handlers slashing and making the open 3. The latter of which has been a fickle bitch in the playoffs over the years

That's why improving the defense was key the last two seasons... the offense bogging down happens to every team, tbh... even OKC with Harden only lasted 5 games against the Heat...

You look at the West, and I think that if healthy, we're in pretty good shape. All you can ask for this late in the game.

[SpursFan86]

Cause we've seen this shit before this offense is predicated on handlers slashing and making the open 3. The latter of which has been a fickle bitch in the playoffs over the years

In how many of those previous years did we have a top 3 defense in the league to fall back on when our offense wasn't in rhythm? From '09-'12 we were outside of the top 5 defensively. In 2012 we were 10th.

I know we've seen regular season success not translate into postseason success...but we've never had this type of regular seasons success. This is the highest SRS we've had since 2007. Again, I'm not guaranteeing a championship or anything, but I don't know why anyone wouldn't be excited to see how well this team is playing this year.

[Trainwreck2100]

That's why improving the defense was key the last two seasons... the offense bogging down happens to every team, tbh... even OKC with Harden only lasted 5 games against the Heat...

You look at the West, and I think that if healthy, we're in pretty good shape. All you can ask for this late in the game.

Dem whistles doh. That's really the only thing that scares me.

[Winehole23]

lol gloomy gus meltdowns in the historic streak. typical spoiled Spurs fans.

these are the good old days. barring injury, Spurs got a good shot to win it all this year.

[FromWayDowntown]

I forgot that the Spurs weren't even close to winning a title last year. The club is obviously flawed from a personnel standpoint and the "system" can't possibly work in the playoffs.

Any realist would know those truths.[/blue text]

[ElNono]

Dem whistles doh. That's really the only thing that scares me.

that's a legit concern, but I can't put that on the team or the FO... they're just going to have to play through that.

[szkorhetz]

Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?

[phyzik]

I forgot that the Spurs weren't even close to winning a title last year. The club is obviously flawed from a personnel standpoint and the "system" can't possibly work in the playoffs.

Any realist would know those truths.

FIFY

[phyzik]

Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?

Let them get a title and then I will compare, tbh. If this team chokes in the playoffs, the answer is obviously "NO". If they win it all, then that question can be debated. To be compared to greatness, you must first be great yourself.

[ElNono]

Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?

IMO, one of the best. You could argue they were much more dominant when TD was in his prime, and it would be difficult to argue with that, but back then they also had much less options.

This is a team with great fits, likeable players, they seem to like eachother too, bought fully into the system, depth like we've not had in a long while... and yet I still think they have room to grow... I think TP can play better more often, and I think Kawhi can get better. Beli is just really only getting his feet wet out there.

They're not unbeatable or anything like that, but they really execute a great and efficient brand of basketball most of the time that can be dominant and very enjoyable (at least to me).

[ElNono]

Winning it all would be great validation, but I don't think it removes merits from the team... I think this is a team you can look back 10 years from now and say, like WH said above, "those were the good old days"... last year's team was pretty darn good too, even with the heart-break, IMO.

[Chinook]

Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?

It's easily the best supporting cast ever. The Medium Three and Diaw are so good that people actually believe the Big Three haven't fallen off as much as they have. This team is really special in how dependent everyone is on each other.

[KaiRMD1]

Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?

Only if the ol' sports win a title can we started comparing them as one of the best teams. Last year's team could be considered one of the best Spurs teams to NOT win a title.

[RD2191]

Fuck that, Spurs better win it all or they're going down as chokers.

[playbonner15]

http://i.imgur.com/8ZkFCiE.gif

[Sean Cagney]

That team though wasn't anywhere near as good defensively (ranked #11 in the RS, #8 in the playoffs). You just knew eventually when the ball stopped going in, it was going to be a struggle because we didn't have the defensive tools yet. I thought last season we were much better prepared (and this season too).

I did at the time but I did not want to accept it, thought we would just win it all with shots going down at an alarming rate!

[rascal]

Still say that. Splitter sucks.

[hater]

Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?

oh jesus christ

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[therealtruth]

It's easily the best supporting cast ever. The Medium Three and Diaw are so good that people actually believe the Big Three haven't fallen off as much as they have. This team is really special in how dependent everyone is on each other.

The key is that trust can't fail in the playoffs where the closeouts will be faster and the shots will be tougher.

[chazley]

It can be argued last year's team was our best ever. We were a 99% favorite the last 30 seconds of that game to beat Miami, and if we had beat them they would have been the best team we ever beat. Duncan played an insane last two games, Tony was an MVP candidate all year, Spurs had the league's best defensive lineup (our starting lineup) and an offense that every team in the league tried to emulate.

[hater]

It can be argued last year's team was our best ever. We were a 99% favorite the last 30 seconds of that game to beat Miami, and if we had beat them they would have been the best team we ever beat. Duncan played an insane last two games, Tony was an MVP candidate all year, Spurs had the league's best defensive lineup (our starting lineup) and an offense that every team in the league tried to emulate.

Completely disagree. The 14 Miami team, who got raped by Dirk the season before is far from the best team we have faced, or beat.

1) 3 Peat Lakers
2) Pistons
3) Mavericks

those teams are much better than the 14 Heat and even the Suns are right there IMO

[TD 21]

Ayres is not going to play in the playoffs, barring injury. I said it back then, and I think we're seeing that now. I do think Pop ran a bit longer than I thought with him, but it's clear he has the new "Dejuan Blair minute burner" role.

Beli has come a long way, and I thought Patty has elevated his game since the RRT, especially while Tony was out. There's palpable growth within the system there, IMO, and some of these games against top teams have shown they can be counted on when it matters, which was not always the case last season. We're always going to be reliant on our Big 4 (TP/TD/Manu/Kawhi) and secondary Big 3 (Green/Splitter/Diaw)... but all teams rely on their best players, so nothing new there.



I think they should be appreciated exactly because they don't have a top 5 player. I think the bar of "championship or bust" effectively changed when we stopped having a top 5 player, it's what happens to most every team.

But there's no need to be scared. They got game, and the league itself isn't full of world-beaters these days.

Given the amount of opportunity they've given Ayres this season, they clearly want him to be the fourth big, but whether they'll need one is match-up dependent. If they get the Grizzlies, they will. If they get the Mavs, they won't.

Neither Belinelli nor Mills has come a long way this season, since both essentially started off at the level they're playing now . . . depth and chemistry aren't in question though, as they've clearly got the best of both in the league.

No one appreciates this team more than me, but that doesn't mean I have to be satisfied with anything less than a championship either. They themselves aren't and I don't know why so many of the fans are. Despite the presence of anything playing at a top ten level, when you have a team this good, that should be the bar.

Again, I'm not scared; I'm realistic. Unless Parker and/or Duncan play at least close to last season's level, they're not beating the Thunder or Heat in a series.

[chazley]

Again, I'm not scared; I'm realistic. Unless Parker and/or Duncan play at least close to last season's level, they're not beating the Thunder or Heat in a series.

This point is overused and in my opinion not true. Kawhi. Patty. Manu. Marco. Boris. All of these guys have picked up the slack tremendously this season, and we no longer need Parker to give us 25 & 8 to win a game any given night. Finals game are often decided by role players stepping up and creating big moments. This team gets it done offensively by spreading the ball, creating/exploiting weaknesses and mismatches, and constant movement. There's no hero ball on this team. Last year, I'm sure Pop would go up to Tony and say 'We need 30&10 tonight' and he'd go out there and try to carry the team. This year it's not like that. The last two minutes of a game, I'm comfortable with any of the big three handling the ball and creating plays. The Spurs are a unique team. We will live and die by the way we have played this season, and if you think we will try and win another way you will be end up being dissapointed.

[ElNono]

Given the amount of opportunity they've given Ayres this season, they clearly want him to be the fourth big, but whether they'll need one is match-up dependent. If they get the Grizzlies, they will. If they get the Mavs, they won't.

We're rolling with Tiago/Diaw/TD. I actually think it's going to be the exact opposite: if they need a big body (ie: vs Grizzlies), they'll go with Baynes first. If they can get away playing small, they'll just play small. That effectively makes Ayres the 5th big.

Obviously, he might see the floor if there's garbage time, like DeJuan did. Playoffs are around the corner, we'll see soon enough.


Neither Belinelli nor Mills has come a long way this season, since both essentially started off at the level they're playing now . . . depth and chemistry aren't in question though, as they've clearly got the best of both in the league.

Well, chemistry and comfort level do matter. Some players get opportunities and don't elevate their game. These two guys did. Patty almost doubled his +/- since the ASG, and only received an extra 3 mins on the floor compared to pre-ASG. Marco did the same thing, but basically getting the same minutes. They're obviously not as important as our other top guys, but due to injury or foul trouble, they're great players to have, and they fit like a glove into what we're trying to run out there.


No one appreciates this team more than me, but that doesn't mean I have to be satisfied with anything less than a championship either. They themselves aren't and I don't know why so many of the fans are. Despite the presence of anything playing at a top ten level, when you have a team this good, that should be the bar.

Again, I'm not scared; I'm realistic. Unless Parker and/or Duncan play at least close to last season's level, they're not beating the Thunder or Heat in a series.

Because winning a championship is hard. There are no lock or guarantees. A bunch of teams have top 5 players, and only one of them will win the championship. Does that automatically make the other contenders not good/not great/flawed? Of course not.

Winning it all is a completely different story. From the whistles to injuries, to a bad rebound, shit luck... lots of stuff out of a team's control can derail a season.

The Spurs goal is a championship, and to be a contender they had to play at an elite level. That was under their control, and they've done it again this season. That's all you can ask for. Now they're gonna go to battle and hopefully they can sustain that and all the other stuff doesn't get in the way.

[ElNono]

This point is overused and in my opinion not true. Kawhi. Patty. Manu. Marco. Boris. All of these guys have picked up the slack tremendously this season, and we no longer need Parker to give us 25 & 8 to win a game any given night. Finals game are often decided by role players stepping up and creating big moments. This team gets it done offensively by spreading the ball, creating/exploiting weaknesses and mismatches, and constant movement. There's no hero ball on this team. Last year, I'm sure Pop would go up to Tony and say 'We need 30&10 tonight' and he'd go out there and try to carry the team. This year it's not like that. The last two minutes of a game, I'm comfortable with any of the big three handling the ball and creating plays. The Spurs are a unique team. We will live and die by the way we have played this season, and if you think we will try and win another way you will be end up being dissapointed.

True too. Battier came through for Miami last Finals. Same thing for Mike Miller and Rio in some games. Even the Spurs had to rely on Danny making shots. At some point your top guys are going to get tied up, and you're going to need other guys to make plays.

[TD 21]

This point is overused and in my opinion not true. Kawhi. Patty. Manu. Marco. Boris. All of these guys have picked up the slack tremendously this season, and we no longer need Parker to give us 25 & 8 to win a game any given night. Finals game are often decided by role players stepping up and creating big moments. This team gets it done offensively by spreading the ball, creating/exploiting weaknesses and mismatches, and constant movement. There's no hero ball on this team. Last year, I'm sure Pop would go up to Tony and say 'We need 30&10 tonight' and he'd go out there and try to carry the team. This year it's not like that. The last two minutes of a game, I'm comfortable with any of the big three handling the ball and creating plays. The Spurs are a unique team. We will live and die by the way we have played this season, and if you think we will try and win another way you will be end up being dissapointed.

It can't be overused, because there's nothing more central to winning a championship in this league than that. It's not possible to win without it, no matter how good the depth, IQ, coaching, etc., is.

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How you like me now?

[smeagol]

Still say that. Splitter sucks.

Yes, he should be sent back to Spain . . . :rolleyes

[smeagol]

Fuck that, Spurs better win it all or they're going down as chokers.

Damm it Mexicano, you are a fucking idiot.

ST is overrun by assholes . . .

[ElNono]

Well, they did find their best form since Game 7 against Dallas... now it's all about hoping their best is better than another team's best...

[Capster]

you guys defending the spurs are delusional, the spurs have yet to beat a good team this season. same ol spurs getting the 1 seed by beating garbage teams. who have we beat this season? no one. these games matter to at least make a statement.

HINT......You are the one that is delusional! You are saying that the SPURS played garbage teams all season????? LMAO.....tell me how they got to the playoffs??????

[RD2191]

They played garbage teams. And Spurs defense is still terrible. Amd you're also a faggot.

[Capster]

They played garbage teams. And Spurs defense is still terrible. Amd you're also a faggot.
LOL!!!! Get your dander up???? I am a woman!!!! LMAO!!!!!

[sook]

regular season doesn't mean shit. The rockets swept the spurs and got beat by the team the spurs are currently defecating on.

[RD2191]

You're still a faggot. And an obnoxious one at that.

[Capster]

[QUOTE=robdiaz2191;7320822]You're still a faggot. And an obnoxious one at that.[/QUOTE

If you are not a Spurs Fan, why are you on this site, spewing shit????
Still L M A O!!!!!

[RD2191]

Who said I wasn't a Spurs fan?

[Capster]

Who said I wasn't a Spurs fan?

Well.....what are you?

[RD2191]

A Spurs fan?

[DPG21920]

you guys defending the spurs are delusional, the spurs have yet to beat a good team this season. same ol spurs getting the 1 seed by beating garbage teams. who have we beat this season? no one. these games matter to at least make a statement.

olllllllllll ball coach after det one per par

[Splits]

Well.....what are you?

He's a cliffjumper who can't do it properly. Kinda like...

http://a.gifb.in/052012/1338313514_cliff_jump_fail.gif

[RD2191]

Hold me back Splits. Hold me back. :cry

[xmas1997]

They played garbage teams. And Spurs defense is still terrible. Amd you're also a faggot.

I have to disagree with you.
Of the two teams who met in last years finals, the Heat are having the easiest road to getting back IMHO.
The Mavs took the Spurs to 7 games.
I figured the Blazers being better than the Mavs would be even harder. Go figure!
Provided the Spurs make it to the next round they will find it even harder to advance, whereas the Heat will have another cakewalk and be rested and fresh.
My only hope is that the Eastern Conf. finalists beat each other up a little before a potential meeting with the Spurs.
The Spurs have a much tougher road to get back than the Heat do IMHO.

[RD2191]

I have to disagree with you.
Of the two teams who met in last years finals, the Heat are having the easiest road to getting back IMHO.
The Mavs took the Spurs to 7 games.
I figured the Blazers being better than the Mavs would be even harder. Go figure!
Provided the Spurs make it to the next round they will find it even harder to advance, whereas the Heat will have another cakewalk and be rested and fresh.
My only hope is that the Eastern Conf. finalists beat each other up a little before a potential meeting with the Spurs.
The Spurs have a much tougher road to get back than the Heat do IMHO.
I'm not sure. The Mavs just know the Spurs really well and Carlisle had a solid defensive plan. The Blazers sort of overachieved. Imo. I think the real test comes in the WCF. Our defense in really suspect. This sort of feels like 2012 when the offense carried us and came to an abrupt end when we faced the only team that can out-shoot us. That team being the Thunder.

[Cry Havoc]

And Spurs defense is still terrible.

I mean, there's nothing like limiting two of the best big men in basketball to prove how shitty our defense is. :lmao

[rascal]

I have to disagree with you.
Of the two teams who met in last years finals, the Heat are having the easiest road to getting back IMHO.
The Mavs took the Spurs to 7 games.
I figured the Blazers being better than the Mavs would be even harder. Go figure!
Provided the Spurs make it to the next round they will find it even harder to advance, whereas the Heat will have another cakewalk and be rested and fresh.
My only hope is that the Eastern Conf. finalists beat each other up a little before a potential meeting with the Spurs.
The Spurs have a much tougher road to get back than the Heat do IMHO.

The Spurs sleep walked in the first round and still beat the Mavs. The Mavs were not very good and it took a game 7 to wake the Spurs up.

[xmas1997]

The Spurs sleep walked in the first round and still beat the Mavs. The Mavs were not very good and it took a game 7 to wake the Spurs up.

This is as good a theory as any I've heard.

[Brunodf]

Bump

[Splits]

tbh

[Robz4000]

There are no elite teams outside a healthy Spurs right now tbh. Last year the Spurs, Heat, Thunder, and Pacers (sorta) were elite and legit contenders. No team currently has the capability of matching the Spurs at 100% unless the Thunder get their shit together and make the postseason. Only issue is health, which unfortunately is a very serious issue this year.

[Uriel]

This Spurs team is the opposite of last year's. :lol Struggle against bad teams. Own the good teams.

[Robz4000]

This Spurs team is the opposite of last year's. :lol Struggle against bad teams. Own the good teams.

Champs syndrome. Every champ sans the Lakers in 2011 (gassed) and Mavs in 2012 (lol Cuban) in recent memory has coasted but got up against the "contenders". Heat had it really bad.