Russell Wilson

[Avante]

I picked up on this guy while he was at NCSt, you could see "it". The guy had it all, smart, mobile, arm. Yep, the total package. He played great at Wisconsin and hasn't slowed down in the NFL. Only one rookie ever threw as many TD passes, and now here Wilson is favored to beat RGIII. So all you who play this ridiculous...black QB's can't.....must be rethinking things, or should be.

Andrew Luck will be out of the playoffs, while he had a great rookie season, he did nothing that over shadowed Wilson/RGIII. Stat wise he's really not that close, he gets his props because of the lack of a running game (so it is important all of a sudden...haha!).

RGIII will be so banged up by 2016, there really is a question about can he survive with his style.

There is a very real posibility that Russell Wilson is in a SB in the near future. I don't see that with Luck/RGIII. Wilson is going to be the best of the three as far as a career goes. He will accompish more and he will have the superior stats.

[GoodOdor]

3 threads and counting.

[Avante]

3 threads and counting.

Who really gives a fuck, does it really matter...why?

Dude, do you do anything besides whine?

All you do is this....


You'll always have the cock meat sandwich though.


Why?

[Raven]

if suddenly NFL teams decided that they will only sign black qbs, would that make them better than white qbs?

[Avante]

if suddenly NFL teams decided that they will only sign black qbs, would that make them better than white qbs?

It's not about black/white it's about being athlectic. Blacks are simply faster/quicker and more elusive. We rarely see a sub 4.50 white QB. Todays defenses are too fast, too quick, guys can't just stand back there anymore surveying the field. They need some mobility, enter the athlete/the black QB.

Warren Moon has stats on a par with Joe Montana, we have three black QB's in these playoffs. A black QB is playing for the NCAA Championship. Two black QBs have won two of the last three Heismans. A black QB will win the ROY. Things are changing, and quickly.

You can drop the word black for athlete. It's just the most athlectic QB's are black.

[Lincoln]

Who cares

[Raven]

It's not about black/white it's about being athlectic. Blacks are simply faster/quicker and more elusive. We rarely see a sub 4.50 white QB. Todays defenses are too fast, too quick, guys can't just stand back there anymore surveying the field. They need some mobility, enter the athlete/the black QB.

Warren Moon has stats on a par with Joe Montana, we have three black QB's in these playoffs. A black QB is playing for the NCAA Championship. Two black QBs have won two of the last three Heismans. A black QB will win the ROY. Things are changing, and quickly.

You can drop the word black for athlete. It's just the most athlectic QB's are black.

it's pitiful to even consider stats when comparing a running qb with a pocket passer.. also, wilson literally lives only on play actions, do you think it will still work when he'll be figured out? also, do you really think monkeyballers as him or rg3 can last more than two seasons without getting beaten up to the point of missing games? It's ok when your team relies on a huge D and an above average running game, but cmon, how can you build a team like that and expect to be successful?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

guys can't just stand back there anymore surveying the field. They need some mobility, enter the athlete/the black QB.


Yeah, the Tom Brady vs. Eli Manning superbowl last year is really hard evidence that the pocket passer can't just "stand back and survey the field" anymore.

[Avante]

Who cares


Probably about as many who cared about...Elite Manning.

[Avante]

it's pitiful to even consider stats when comparing a running qb with a pocket passer.. also, wilson literally lives only on play actions, do you think it will still work when he'll be figured out? also, do you really think monkeyballers as him or rg3 can last more than two seasons without getting beaten up to the point of missing games? It's ok when your team relies on a huge D and an above average running game, but cmon, how can you build a team like that and expect to be successful?

You see Russell Wilson playing monkeyball????? Where?

When we talk QB 's we look at how they deal with the system they are in. It doesn't matter if it's play action, speed, winged T, it's do they make it work? Russell Wilson is a master already in the system he is in, a system that won't be changing. He doesn't need to be a pocker passer in a spread, that mean nothings. It's can he excell in the system he's in? Obviously he can.

[Avante]

Yeah, the Tom Brady vs. Eli Manning superbowl last year is really hard evidence that the pocket passer can't just "stand back and survey the field" anymore.

Do you watch football, ever listen to anyone talking about the game? You seem lost. All we are hearing is what I was talking about, you really aren't aware of this? All over the place it's...."can a pocket passer survive"...?

Dude, you honestly aren't seeing the direction things are going?

Mobile

Luck
Rodgers
Wilson
Kaepernick
RGIII

....all in the playoffs. That's where things arte heading, you really aren't seeing this?

[Raven]

You see Russell Wilson playing monkeyball????? Where?

When we talk QB 's we look at how they deal with the system they are in. It doesn't matter if it's play action, speed, winged T, it's do they make it work? Russell Wilson is a master already in the system he is in, a system that won't be changing. He doesn't need to be a pocker passer in a spread, that mean nothings. It's can he excell in the system he's in? Obviously he can.

yes if you are tryin to do something at the moment.. if you want to build a team for the ages then no.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Do you watch football, ever listen to anyone talking about the game? You seem lost. All we are hearing is what I was talking about, you really aren't aware of this? All over the place it's...."can a pocket passer survive"...?

Dude, you honestly aren't seeing the direction things are going?

Mobile

Luck
Rodgers
Wilson
Kaepernick
RGIII

....all in the playoffs. That's where things arte heading, you really aren't seeing this?

:lol good job addressing the fact that two pure pocket passers with limited mobility started the most recent superbowl

:lmao trying to group Luck and Rodgers in with Wilson, Kap and RG3, as if their occasional scramble is the key to their success

[Avante]

yes if you are tryin to do something at the moment.. if you want to build a team for the ages then no.

Totally wrong.

We now have defensive linemen running the 40 as fast as linebackers used to, backers as fast as db's were. Defenses have too many fast guys out there anymore, how do you compete vs that, yep, amobile QB. A guy who can make them pay, a guy who can get outside.

[dirk4mvp]

:lol Avante gets so defensive when anybody disagrees with his shit opinions.

[Avante]

:lol good job addressing the fact that two pure pocket passers with limited mobility started the most recent superbowl

:lmao trying to group Luck and Rodgers in with Wilson, Kap and RG3, as if their occasional scramble is the key to their success

I figured you had enought common sense to know I'm talking about a change, guess not. Not surprised.

Answer my question, you really haven't heard the talk?

How about we compare Luck and Rodgers with Manning. Eli and Brady, see the difference? Joe Flacco???? Both Luck and Rodgers can score from 20 yards out with a run, you disagree?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Russell Wilson deserves the lion's share (if not all) of the credit for Seattle's season. Experts will point to Seattle's 3rd ranked rushing attack or their 4th ranked defense (1st in points allowed), or maybe the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick has more passing yards than him--but what do they know? It's important to have an agenda and see it through to completion, amirite?

[Raven]

Totally wrong.

We now have defensive linemen running the 40 as fast as linebackers used to, backers as fast as db's were. Defenses have too many fast guys out there anymore, how do you compete vs that, yep, amobile QB. A guy who can make them pay, a guy who can get outside.

so your idea is to draft rg3 one year, go for it, then tank the next year and draft rg4 the next one?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I figured you had enought common sense to know I'm talking about a change, guess not. Not surprised.

Answer my question, you really haven't heard the talk?

How about we compare Luck and Rodgers with Manning. Eli and Brady, see the difference? Joe Flacco???? Both Luck and Rodgers can score from 20 yards out with a run, you disagree?

Who gives a shit about the "talk" you hear from Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders who have an agenda to hype up as many black QBs as possible?

Luck and Rodgers are primarily pocket passers that have the occasional run. Rodgers and Luck both averaged roughly 16 rush yards a game this year, so either one having a 20+ yard touchdown run would be pretty unusual and unexpected. They're considered pretty traditional pocket passers by everyone who doesn't have an agenda to promote mobile/black QBs.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Totally wrong.

We now have defensive linemen running the 40 as fast as linebackers used to, backers as fast as db's were. Defenses have too many fast guys out there anymore, how do you compete vs that, yep, amobile QB. A guy who can make them pay, a guy who can get outside.

The Patriots and Giants managed just fine last year without a QB who can make them pay and get to the outside.

[Avante]

so your idea is to draft rg3 one year, go for it, then tank the next year and draft rg4 the next one?

Nope~!

You have to go with the times, everything screams.....extent the play, mobility.......in todays NFL. I'm not talking about a sprinter at QB, I'm talking about somebody who can run. The days of a Dan Marino are coming to an end. These guys today have to have some escapism, they can't just stand there.

Yes I know all about Brady/Peyton/Drew but how many of those are out there? Look at what the colleges are playing now, look at who has won the last three Heismans, yep...running QB's. That's where it's heading.

[Avante]

The Patriots and Giants managed just fine last year without a QB who can make them pay and get to the outside.

I'll go really slow....

I'm talking about the direction NFL QBing is heading, do you disagree?

Watch these playoff games I guarantee we'll hear about.....mobility at the NFL QB position....a few times. You disagree?

[Raven]

Nope~!

You have to go with the times, everything screams.....extent the play, mobility.......in todays NFL. I'm not talking about a sprinter at QB, I'm talking about somebody who can run. The days of a Dan Marino are coming to an end. These guys today have to have some escapism, they can't just stand there.

Yes I know all about Brady/Peyton/Drew but how many of those are out there? Look at what the colleges are playing now, look at who has won the last three Heismans, yep...running QB's. That's where it's heading.

of course there aren't many of those great pocket passers, but as long as there is at least one in a decent team, monkeyballers will never be THE guys to look for. You can hype them as much as you want, find 100 new records they broke, they will still be damaged goods soon enough.

[resistanze]

sup Avante

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'll go really slow....

I'm talking about the direction NFL QBing is heading, do you disagree?

Yes. One single season where mobile QBs have more success than they normally do (and you all but admitted this new direction didn't start till this season since you're refusing to talk about last season) does not mean the NFL is heading in a new direction. I would need to see multiple seasons of it before I call it the NFL moving in a new direction.

This would be like saying the Dolphins having an 11-5 season in 2008 running the wildcat offense means that the NFL is heading in the direction of the wildcat.

[Avante]

Who gives a shit about the "talk" you hear from Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders who have an agenda to hype up as many black QBs as possible?

Luck and Rodgers are primarily pocket passers that have the occasional run. Rodgers and Luck both averaged roughly 16 rush yards a game this year, so either one having a 20+ yard touchdown run would be pretty unusual and unexpected. They're considered pretty traditional pocket passers by everyone who doesn't have an agenda to promote mobile/black QBs.

While you have an agenda to do all you can to degrade the black QB.

So you see no different between what Luck and Rodgers can do compared to the Mannings and Brady, you serious? Andrew Luck could play fullback, Aaron Rodgers could give the Mannings/Brady a head start in the 40 and still dust them. Can't believe you aren't aware of that.

When you have a QB that can motor (for a QB) you have to rush them differently than a Peyton Manning. Manning isn't going anywhere, while you miss Luck/Rodgers they'll put 15 yards on ya.

[Avante]

Yes. One single season where mobile QBs have more success than they normally do (and you all but admitted this new direction didn't start till this season since you're refusing to talk about last season) does not mean the NFL is heading in a new direction. I would need to see multiple seasons of it before I call it the NFL moving in a new direction.

This would be like saying the Dolphins having an 11-5 season in 2008 running the wildcat offense means that the NFL is heading in the direction of the wildcat.

Do you pay any attention at all? Everyone is talking about it, it will be talked about in the playoffs. Everyone is seeing it. What you blind?

Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, RGIII, Colin Kaepernick are where things are going. Dude, just listen to what football people are saying.

[Raven]

While you have an agenda to do all you can to degrade the black QB.

So you see no different between what Luck and Rodgers can do compared to the Mannings and Brady, you serious? Andrew Luck could play fullback, Aaron Rodgers could cive the Mannings/Brady a head start in the 40 and still dust them. Can't believe you aren't aware of that.

When you have a QB that can motor (for a QB) you have to rush them differently than a Peyton Manning. Manning isn't going anywhere, while you miss Luck/Rodgers they'll put 15 yards on ya.

that's one of the problems with mobile QBs, at one point they see the space, they get 10 yards, don't see the db coming from the blindside and get pounded to the ground or fumble the ball.. Also, one of the most common Luck's problems, is that he holds on to the ball too much, why do you think that is?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So you see no different between what Luck and Rodgers can do compared to the Mannings and Brady, you serious?
I see a minor difference that's irrelevant and does nothing to bolster your argument (especially since Manning and Brady led their team to a better record than Luck's team or Rodger's team had :lmao). All four of them are easily classified as pocket passers most effective when they can sit in the pocket and make a decision. None of the 4 will be outrunning DeMarcus Ware or Von Miller anytime soon.


When you have a QB that can motor (for a QB) you have to rush them differently than a Peyton Manning. Manning isn't going anywhere, while you miss Luck/Rodgers they'll put 15 yards on ya.
Luck and Rodgers average 16 rushing yards a game, so there's an obvious misconception you have about how often they drop 15 yards on a defense. The stats your ignoring say that a 15 yard run from them would happen once a game and afterwards they'd do nothing on the ground.

You can try to argue it using anecdotes and corny phrases like "they can motor" till the cows come home, anyone who watches football and hasn't recently had a lobotomy considers Luck and Rodgers pocket passers who become a lot less effective when forced out of the pocket.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Do you pay any attention at all? Everyone is talking about it, it will be talked about in the playoffs. Everyone is seeing it. What you blind?

Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, RGIII, Colin Kaepernick are where things are going. Dude, just listen to what football people are saying.

Oh look, another logically flawed appeal to popularity/authority because Avante can't respond to the actual content of my posts.

I've never met a more intellectually dishonest person in my life.

[Avante]

:lol Avante gets so defensive when anybody disagrees with his shit opinions.

You mean those opinions I got from listening to all those football people, those opinions?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You mean those opinions I got from listening to all those football people, those opinions?

:lmao so opinions you get from recycling other opinions without ever actually coming up with your own opinions?

[Avante]

Oh look, another logically flawed appeal to popularity/authority because Avante can't respond to the actual content of my posts.

I've never met a more intellectually dishonest person in my life.

Dude, who is talking about the past, not I. Why not try and talk about the future which is wherre I'm at with this. You keep telling me about yesterday, fuck yesterday, I'm talking about tomorrow, you really don't get that?

[dirk4mvp]

Remember when those experts you listen to were calling Cam Newton a franchise QB and preseason MVP candidate, Avante?

[Avante]

:lmao so opinions you get from recycling other opinions without ever actually coming up with your own opinions?

Are you really as lost as you appear?

I'll start hearing about something....some band...for an example. After I listen to them, yep, great band. Only then do I start propping that band. Dude, never seen anyone as lost as you stay. You really thought....wow!!!!!!!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Dude, who is talking about the past, not I. Why not try and talk about the future which is wherre I'm at with this. You keep telling me about yesterday, fuck yesterday, I'm talking about tomorrow, you really don't get that?

So you wanna talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet which enables you base your entire argument off conjecture that can't be proven right or wrong? No thanks. But good job admitting your argument is completely based off sensationalism and conjecture. Progress :tu

[Avante]

Remember when those experts you listen to were calling Cam Newton a franchise QB and preseason MVP candidate, Avante?

You missed my point totally.

Firstt off I know more about most these things than those experts. Been at it a lot longer. All I'm saying is they bring things up that get ya thinking.

[Avante]

So you wanna talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet which enables you base your entire argument off conjecture that can't be proven right or wrong? No thanks. But good job admitting your argument is completely based off sensationalism and conjecture. Progress :tu

Incredible, wow~

Do your best, ok?

I 'm talking about the beginning of something we are seeing right now, that isn't clear? Are we not seeing more and more mobile QB's in the league, well? Why do you think that is?

You aren't seeing it, hell yes you are so why the dummy bullshit?

A running QB puts so much stress on any defense, this is a known fact. Even you know that. We are seeing a change, it's happening right now. For you to play silly bullshit games over something so fucking obvious is stupid, pay attention to what's going on.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Words can't describe how intellectually dishonest Avante's arguing style is. He constantly moves the goal posts, employs every logical fallacy that exists, blatantly ignores stats/facts, and of course thinks events that haven't happened yet mean he's right.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Incredible, wow~

Do your best, ok?

I 'm talking about the beginning of something we artr seeing right now, that isn't clear? Are we not seeing more and more mobile QB's in the league, well? Why do you think that is?

It's way too early to tell whether or not this is a fluke or the beginning of something. You're intellectually dishonest for pretending that this season being the beginning of mobile QBs becoming the norm in the NFL is a sure thing. As of right now, the popularity of mobile QBs/the read option this year is no different than the popularity of the Wildcat in 2008.

[Avante]

Words can't describe how intellectually dishonest Avante's arguing style is. He constantly moves the goal posts, employs every logical fallacy that exists, blatantly ignores stats/facts, and of course thinks events that haven't happened yet mean he's right.

So we don't have more mobile QB's in the playoffs than ever? How about trying some reality for a change ya reckon?

[Avante]

It's way too early to tell whether or not this is a fluke or the beginning of something. You're intellectually dishonest for pretending that this season being the beginning of mobile QBs becoming the norm in the NFL is a sure thing. As of right now, the popularity of mobile QBs/the read option this year is no different than the popularity of the Wildcat in 2008.

What? So where are Kaepernick, Wilson, RGIII, Newton going in the next 10 years? Hell yes it's happening and only a fool like you wouldn't see it.

Example

Who replaced Brett Favre? Yep, a mobile QB.

Who replaced Peyton Manning at Indy, yep, a mobile QB.

Watch as we see that happening from here on out. Why bother with Tebow, oh yeah....could run.

[Raven]

Incredible, wow~

Do your best, ok?

I 'm talking about the beginning of something we are seeing right now, that isn't clear? Are we not seeing more and more mobile QB's in the league, well? Why do you think that is?

You aren't seeing it, hell yes you are so why the dummy bullshit?

A running QB puts so much stress on any defense, this is a known fact. Even you know that. We are seeing a change, it's happening right now. For you to play silly bullshit games over something so fucking obvious is stupid, pay attention to what's going on.

in my opinion, the reason for that is simply that GMs are now slaves of statistics.. they need yards asap no matter if it is in a sustainable way.. Also people are always delusional about someone having elite running skills and only using them when needed.

[johnsmith]

Lol at calling Rodgers a mobile qb....weird that he's been sacked 51 times this season.....but he's mobile.


Shocking that avante is full of shit again.

At the beginning if the season, after week 2, avante also said the bronco weren't for real....they're now his Super Bowl pick!!!!! Lol!!!!

[Avante]

in my opinion, the reason for that is simply that GMs are now slaves of statistics.. they need yards asap no matter if it is in a sustainable way.. Also people are always delusional about someone having elite running skills and only using them when needed.

You ever play football?

You can put 8 in the box to stuff the run, you can double cover a stud receiver. What a defense can't do is deal with a running QB, if he can't make that spy miss then he's not really a runner. A QB makes one guy miss, he's got 10-20 yards before the defense can track him down, sometimes they don't....TD!

If a QB has no running ability, there goes that threat.

[johnsmith]

You ever play football?

You can put 8 in the box to stuff the run, you can double cover a stud receiver. What a defense can't do is deal with a running QB, if he can't make that spy miss then he's not really a runner. A QB makes one guy miss, he's got 10-20 yards before the defense can track him down, sometimes they don't....TD!

If a QB has no running ability, there goes that threat.

Right!!! I mean, look at all the Super Bowls they've won.

[Avante]

Lol at calling Rodgers a mobile qb....weird that he's been sacked 51 times this season.....but he's mobile.


Shocking that avante is full of shit again.

At the beginning if the season, after week 2, avante also said the bronco weren't for real....they're now his Super Bowl pick!!!!! Lol!!!!

Since you won't leave me along.


Rodgers has rushed for 1442 yards, has scored 18 rushing TD's, has scored on a 35 yard rush. That isn't mobile?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

In 85 games 1442 rush yards is 17 rush yards a game. Sorry but that's really nothing spectacular.

:lmao being so desperate that you're trying to argue one singular 35 yard run means he's mobile. Peyton Manning has a 33 yard run and Joe Flacco has a 38 yard run. I guess that means they're both mobile QBs.

[johnsmith]

Not to mention, the word 'mobile' as it pertains to the ability to slide in the pocket is not the same as 'mobile' as it pertains to guys like RG3.....but I wouldn't expect someone who knows as little about football as avante to understand that.

[Avante]

In 85 games 1442 rush yards is 17 rush yards a game. Sorry but that's really nothing spectacular.

:lmao being so desperate that you're trying to argue one singular 35 yard run means he's mobile. Peyton Manning has a 33 yard run and Joe Flacco has a 38 yard run. I guess that means they're both mobile QBs.

Who said anything about spetacular?

Compare what Rodgers has done compared to Peyton/Brady when it comes to running. Don't tell me you think Rodgers hasn't ran for over 15 yards many times. Do you watch football?

[Avante]

Not to mention, the word 'mobile' as it pertains to the ability to slide in the pocket is not the same as 'mobile' as it pertains to guys like RG3.....but I wouldn't expect someone who knows as little about football as avante to understand that.

What a rookie, dude don't know shit. Grew up watching Fran Tarkenton ya fucking moron.

[Avante]

Luck set the bar, played good but got no help.

Now let's see how our monkey ballers do. I expect to see Wilson prove that he is the best rookie QB today.

[Avante]

14 down now 4

[Avante]

14 down now....1.

Notice how this game is the most exciting of the 4, why is that?

[DPG21920]

He's actually down 4 since he was favored by 3..on the road.

[Avante]

I doubt he knows anything about that.

Far more exciting game when you have guys who can really move isn't it?

[DPG21920]

Doesn't matter idiot! Sheeesh, dealing with a bunch of blowhard a**holes here! It's a FACT they were favored on the road and they are still down 4! A bettor would know that..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Doesn't matter idiot! Sheeesh, dealing with a bunch of blowhard a**holes here! It's a FACT they were favored on the road and they are still down 4! A bettor would know that..

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Far more exciting game when you have guys who can really move isn't it?

It's far more exciting when you have receivers who don't drop wide open passes.

I personally enjoy watching fundamental pocket passing go to work on a defense.

[Avante]

Doesn't matter idiot! Sheeesh, dealing with a bunch of blowhard a**holes here! It's a FACT they were favored on the road and they are still down 4! A bettor would know that..

An idiot is someone who thinks I was talking about the point spread. You can't be that fucking stupid. Pull your head out of your ass moron.

[Avante]

It's far more exciting when you have receivers who don't drop wide open passes.

I personally enjoy watching fundamental pocket passing go to work on a defense.

I personally enjoy to watch a guy who can do it all.

Defenses hate a running QB.

[DPG21920]

What? So where are Kaepernick, Wilson, RGIII, Newton going in the next 10 years? Hell yes it's happening and only a fool like you wouldn't see it.

Example

Who replaced Brett Favre? Yep, a mobile QB.

Who replaced Peyton Manning at Indy, yep, a mobile QB.

Watch as we see that happening from here on out. Why bother with Tebow, oh yeah....could run.

Hell, are we not seeing more RB's who can throw too?! That is a trend. We have QB's who can run more and more and also RB's who can throw TD's.

[DPG21920]

An idiot is someone who thinks I was talking about the point spread. You can't be that fucking stupid. Pull your head out of your ass moron.

Thats it! I don't deal with idiot little kids who are racist to boot! I won't be starting any more threads here since no one wants to act like an adult and you know.......Talk FOOTBALL! Sheesh

[Avante]

Hell, are we not seeing more RB's who can throw too?! That is a trend. We have QB's who can run more and more and also RB's who can throw TD's.

That was stupid.

[Avante]

Thats it! I don't deal with idiot little kids who are racist to boot! I won't be starting any more threads here since no one wants to act like an adult and you know.......Talk FOOTBALL! Sheesh

Who gives a fuck what you do?

[DPG21920]

Hey jackoff! I can list at least 3 RB's who threw for TD's this year! Can you name them without using GOOGLE? Thought so!!!! Also, since 1950, there have been more RB"s who have a completed TD PASS this year than all combined!!! Ha!

[DPG21920]

Who gives a fuck what you do?

IF you dont care, why respond??? Idiot! Done with you..little girl

[Avante]

IF you dont care, why respond??? Idiot! Done with you..little girl

Who gives a fuck dude?

[DPG21920]

Ha! Just like a punk ass kid! Ignore the facts and act like you dont care but can't stop bothering me! SHOVE OFF KID!

[Avante]

Running/throwing QB gets them down to the one.

[Avante]

Why are you still here amigo? Stop boring me with your...hi I'm 13...bullshit.

[DPG21920]

Then doesn't have a coach that trust him enough so he forces the run (with a shaky handoff too).

[DPG21920]

That's rich!!! You are quoting me, not the other way around f*cko!

[Avante]

That's rich!!! You are quoting me, not the other way around f*cko!

Dude, go go get, you're too fucking dense to bother with.

Got a good game going on, ok?

[Clipper Nation]

Avante with the bads as usual... Russell Wilson apparently is like Cialis for this senile old fuck....

[Avante]

Avante with the bads as usual... Russell Wilson apparently is like Cialis for this senile old fuck....

Just telling it like it is little fella, never were into reality were you?

[DPG21920]

Oh, ya, losing because you decide to run instead of throw is reality. Tell me with facts if I am wrong at this moment?

[Avante]

Dude, which of the three has came back from 14 down?

[DPG21920]

None! He's still down dumba**!!! Your trick question won't fool me sicko!

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, which of the three has came back from 14 down?
Which of the three is currently winning their playoff game?

[Avante]

None! He's still down dumba**!!! Your trick question won't fool me sicko!

Thank's to a RB fumble, what game you watching?

[DPG21920]

Thanks to him having no vision/throwing ability and missing wide open WR's so he can run.

[Avante]

Which of the three is currently winning their playoff game?

Let's see...

Luck lost
A RB fumbles at the one or the Seahawks are winning.

[DPG21920]

Thank's to a RB fumble, what game you watching?

Also, you just admitted your own question was wrong!!! You can't be this dense, stupid and moronic!

[DPG21920]

Dude, which of the three has came back from 14 down?


None! He's still down dumba**!!! Your trick question won't fool me sicko!


Thank's to a RB fumble, what game you watching?

[Avante]

Dude, Wilson got then down there...right? How long have you suffered from stupidity?

[DPG21920]

Is he losing?

[Avante]

Is he losing?

Did he fumble on the one?

You really don't get it do you?

[DPG21920]

Is he losing? Did he miss a wide open WR because he decided to run? Did he miss a WR after that? answer the questions, then I will answer yours.

[Clipper Nation]

Did he fumble on the one?
Did he put up more than 14 points yet?

[gaKNOW!blee]

Did he fumble on the one?

You really don't get it do you?

Did he miss two wide open receivers on back to back plays?

[DPG21920]

Did he just make the wrong read which lead to a sack?

[Avante]

Did he put up more than 14 points yet?

Like talking to a little kid....

All he can do is put his team in a postion to score. Which is what he did.

[DPG21920]

No he didn't - he missed two wide open WR's which forced them to punt. Is that in position to score?

[Avante]

No he didn't - he missed two wide open WR's which forced them to punt. Is that in position to score?

Did ya see that block...hahahaha!!!!!!!! You suck!

[DPG21920]

I saw a RB score a Td. I also saw that QB miss a block which led to that RB fumbling on the one..

[Avante]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Which rookie QB moves on?

[DPG21920]

The one that was favored?

[Clipper Nation]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Which rookie QB moves on?
The one whose coach didn't get him injured....

[Avante]

The one that was favored?

How about the one who was drafted last?

[Avante]

The one whose coach didn't get him injured....

The one that knew he wasn't a fullback?

[johnsmith]

What do you think Wilson's mother smells like?

[DPG21920]

How about the one who was drafted last?

So Seattle wasn't favored? Thank you for answering honestly.

[johnsmith]

Come in avante, explain yourself.

[johnsmith]

"That mrs Wilson....yuck!!!!"

- avante

[DPG21920]

Avante, you a betting man? I am the site owners family, well known and honest. Seattle has a dominant run game, elite defense and according to you a stud QB with off the charts IQ. If they win the Superbowl, I kill myself. If not, you kill yourself. We film it and have a friend post on ST after.

Deal?

[Avante]

What do you think Wilson's mother smells like?

Do you really wonder about shit like what old ladies smell like?

[Avante]

So Seattle wasn't favored? Thank you for answering honestly.

That has what to do with anything?

[johnsmith]

Do you really wonder about shit like what old ladies smell like?

I know your racist ass thinks black women have a "scent" to them.....lol

[Avante]

Avante, you a betting man? I am the site owners family, well known and honest. Seattle has a dominant run game, elite defense and according to you a stud QB with off the charts IQ. If they win the Superbowl, I kill myself. If not, you kill yourself. We film it and have a friend post on ST after.

Deal?

The Seahawks won't get past Atlanta. They don't win back to back on the road.

[DPG21920]

Why? Who's defense is better, Seattle or ATL? Who's stud RB is better, Seattle or ATL? Are you saying that Matt Ryan is so much better than RW that he can't overcome the other two huge advantages?

[Avante]

I know your racist ass thinks black women have a "scent" to them.....lol

It doesn't tale a racist, race car driver or an eraser to know that.

[johnsmith]

It doesn't tale a racist, race car driver or an eraser to know that.

Lol!!!! Describe the scent that these smelly women have.

[Avante]

Why? Who's defense is better, Seattle or ATL? Who's stud RB is better, Seattle or ATL? Are you saying that Matt Ryan is so much better than RW that he can't overcome the other two huge advantages?

Huge advantage for the home teams next week, we could see all 4 of them win.

Don't be anymore stupid than you've already been, beating a Redskin team with a gimply QB is totally different than beating a team with a seasoned QB.

[Avante]

Lol!!!! Describe the scent that these smelly women have.

Dude, football forum!

[johnsmith]

Dude, football forum!

Shut your faggot mouth about forum policing and describe to everyone how a black women smells according to your racist ass.

[DPG21920]

Huge advantage for the home teams next week, we could see all 4 of them win.

Don't be anymore stupid than you've already been, beating a Redskin team with a gimply QB is totally different than beating a team with a seasoned QB.

Do you want to change your image?! Sheesh! Answer the questions:

Better Defense:
Better Run Game/Stud RB:

[Avante]

Shut your faggot mouth about forum policing and describe to everyone how a black women smells according to your racist ass.

Obviously you've never been with one dinky dick.

[Avante]

Do you want to change your image?! Sheesh! Answer the questions:

Better Defense:
Better Run Game/Stud RB:

It's not about that at this stage of the game not surprised you don't know that. It's all about who has the better QB at home. Notice how the better QB won all these games so far? A rookie QB on the road vs Matt Ryan? Didn't we see a rookie QB on the road vs Ravens, how'd that go?


Russell Wilson accomnplished more than any other rookie QB this season, he tied the TD record, won a playoff game. That's all we can expect this season. It doesn't matter what happens now.

[Avante]

I've pretty much called it a season as far as these three rookies go. Then a weird thought hit me........what if the Seahawks win again next week?

What does RW have to do to get the respect he deserves? He out stated Luck, he outplayed RGIII. He is the only one left standing. What if he won a SB?

[Avante]

Next up rookie sensation Russell Wilson.

I do have my doubts the Seahawks can win another road game vs a rested number one seed. I didn't think Denver would lose either...so.

Notice how many times his ability to run either moves the chains or extends the play so somebody can. Also notice how he doesn't miss games or throw a shit load of INT's, and is the last rookie QB standing, hahahaha!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Russell Wilson rookie of the year!!!!!!

[Pelicans78]

Wilson was phenomenal in the 2nd half. Hard to believe how easy he made it look in the 2nd half, especially passing downfield. I was really impressed.

[Avante]

Wilson was phenomenal in the 2nd half. Hard to believe how easy he made it look in the 2nd half, especially passing downfield. I was really impressed.

The kid really is the total package, he's cool, smart, has mobility and can throw, what else do you look for in a QB? I have no doubts he's on his way to be among the best in the league.

When it comes to his stats and accomplishments there is no QB ever who had a better rookie season....none!

[Avante]

What happensd to all those RGIII the Gimp and Andrew "The INT" Luck supporters?

[Raven]

The kid really is the total package, he's cool, smart, has mobility and can throw, what else do you look for in a QB? I have no doubts he's on his way to be among the best in the league.

When it comes to his stats and accomplishments there is no QB ever who had a better rookie season....none!

in my mind a qb that runs on a first and goal on the 1-2 yd line with 20 points down, has no business being called "smart".

[Avante]

in my mind a qb that runs on a first and goal on the 1-2 yd line with 20 points down, has no business being called "smart".

How about those who tie the rookie TD mark, out stat every other rookie QB in history, wins a playoff game then erases 20 points to take the lead on the road vs the number one seed?

[johnsmith]

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[johnsmith]

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[johnsmith]

Just thought I'd remind everyone where avante's head is likely at.

[MeloHype]

http://i.imgur.com/ezUt2s7.jpg

[johnsmith]

This will never get old.

[johnsmith]

2013