Chip Kelly

[JoeTait75]

Close to becoming new HC of the Browns.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/report-chip-kelly-close-to-deal-to-coach-browns/

[DeadlyDynasty]

This is bad news for Buffalo only in that it brings Whisencunt one step closer to the Bills. O'Brien is staying at PSU, too. Horton or Marrone would be my preferred options.

[gaKNOW!blee]

This is bad news for Buffalo only in that it brings Whisencunt one step closer to the Bills. O'Brien is staying at PSU, too. Horton or Marrone would be my preferred options.

I think a lot will depend on who the coordinators will be...but if you had to choose Whiz or Lovie?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think a lot will depend on who the coordinators will be...but if you had to choose Whiz or Lovie?

Lovie in a heartbeat. I agree on coordinators though...i want us to make a splash there. Bengals are thriving despite all their youth b/c of damn good coords

[Avante]

Big mistake, Chip Kelly is a college coach only, as we will see.

[JoeTait75]

Big mistake, Chip Kelly is a college coach only, as we will see.

Well, **** it, nothing else has worked. Might as well try this and see what happens. Worst case, they go 4-12/5-11 a few more times (which they do every year anyway) and he gets fired.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don't hate the move, JT. He's the hottest prospect out there right now--and whether it works or not--it's creating excitement for a fan base that has had little to be excited about.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He'd have to change his system up to work in the NFL, but I wouldn't sell Chip Kelly short. He's not a Saban-type college coach who has loaded recruiting classes every year and has tailored his offense to whatever fits the personnel/whatever did best against other Pac-12 teams. Oregon has been a lot better at passing this year now that Kelly has Marcus Mariota at QB. He doesn't at all strike me as a guy who's stubborn and out to prove that a system can work, he'll change his system to whatever wins.

[Avante]

Well, **** it, nothing else has worked. Might as well try this and see what happens. Worst case, they go 4-12/5-11 a few more times (which they do every year anyway) and he gets fired.

Yep, you nailed it!

[Clipper Nation]

Well, **** it, nothing else has worked. Might as well try this and see what happens.
Didn't they "try this" with Butch Davis?

[JoeTait75]

Didn't they "try this" with Butch Davis?

Butch was actually a decent gameday coach. He went 7-9 in 2001 with a team that had gone 5-27 the previous two years and went 9-7 in '02 for the team's only playoff bid since the return. He had the same problem every other coach/GM had under Randy Lerner- he was given too much power and responsibility and was eventually overwhelmed by it. But as a coach he wasn't bad. He looked like Vince Lombardi compared to Pat Shurmur, tbh.

[FromWayDowntown]

Chip's a bad ass dude and a terrific coach. If he doesn't succeed in the NFL, it won't be a lack of effort that undermines him. I was around him when he first started coaching and he's every bit the competitor now that he was nearly 25 years ago. Whoever gets him has reason to be excited about the future.

[Pelicans78]

He'd have to change his system up to work in the NFL, but I wouldn't sell Chip Kelly short. He's not a Saban-type college coach who has loaded recruiting classes every year and has tailored his offense to whatever fits the personnel/whatever did best against other Pac-12 teams. Oregon has been a lot better at passing this year now that Kelly has Marcus Mariota at QB. He doesn't at all strike me as a guy who's stubborn and out to prove that a system can work, he'll change his system to whatever wins.

He was known for his multiple offenses before he came to Oregon. He tries new things all the time.

[Pelicans78]

I think Marrone is a bit unknown. Before he was at Syracuse, he was the Saints "offensive coordinator" even though Payton called the plays. He did do a decent job at Syracuse.

[Pelicans78]

Personally I think Kelly should stay at Oregon.

[tlongII]

He hasn't signed a contract with Cleveland yet. He wants to interview with the other teams before making a decision.

[Blizzardwizard]

Phew, good thing we didn't get him, his playing style is so different to ours. Philip Rivers is the ABSOLUTELY wrong QB for a Chip Kelly offense.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think he'll end up in Philly. Perfect fit for him, if they keep Vick. That team is loaded with speed (Vick, McCoy, Jackson, Maclin)

[Horry For 3!]

Browns not going for Kelly anymore.

[Clipper Nation]

Phew, good thing we didn't get him, his playing style is so different to ours. Philip Rivers is the ABSOLUTELY wrong QB for a Chip Kelly offense.

Tbh, since Dean is sitting on his ass being cheap as usual, we'll end up with some known loser like Jim Mora, Jr... I'd rather have Chip than the usual Spanos hire...

[DPG21920]

I was going to say, why go to the Browns? Not enough talent, terrible city to live in..If anything I would go to where I have CJ Spiller TBH...

[DeadlyDynasty]

I was going to say, why go to the Browns? Not enough talent, terrible city to live in..If anything I would go to where I have CJ Spiller TBH...

We got Doug Marrone from 'Cuse:smokin

[J.T.]

I don't hate the move, JT. He's the hottest prospect out there right now--and whether it works or not--it's creating excitement for a fan base that has had little to be excited about.

I have the copyrights to JT, you owe me four dollars

[DeadlyDynasty]

crofl...sorry about your boys, brah. Draft O-line only and have the WR's use stickem

[Avante]

Kelly won't be able to work his magic with the pros. Kids will play along not the big boys. They will think he's crazy.

[JoeTait75]

So now he's going back to Oregon (supposedly.) How long can he troll the NFL before they stop calling him?

[JMarkJohns]

Lots of rumblings he's Philly's new coach.

[Darth_Pelican]

Yep, he is headed to the Eagles. I guess he changed his mind. Does this mean that Vick remains the starting QB for the Eagles??

[JMarkJohns]

Hearing he got wind of the likely sanctions coming Oregon's way and opted to pull a Petey Carroll.

Vick makes sense, as does trading Foles, letting Vick walk and drafting Gino Smith.

[JoeTait75]

Lots of rumblings he's Philly's new coach.

Glazer and Mort both reporting it. I think he's pulling a Pete Carroll and getting out of Eugene before the NCAA swings the hammer. Would have loved to see him in Cleveland but I'm happy with Chudzinsky as a consolation prize.

EDIT- You beat me to the Pete Carroll reference, JMark. Didn't see it when I posted.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Nike U Willie Lyles
:lmao Crippling sanctions on the way
:lmao Most overrated program in recent memory
:lmao Routinely exposed by USC, Boise, Stanford, the SEC, and anyone else with a defense
:lmao Chipball only good for Nike marketing campaigns, not for winning on the big stage

[JMarkJohns]

I heard it from NCAA lines before NFL. Definitely hearing sanctions or anticipation of sanctions is a huge factor. He's not going to have the horses for his style with a USC style hammer. Not sure that happens, but it makes sense he heard rumbling of what and how long and opted to bolt while a premium destination like Philly was still available.

[JMarkJohns]

Glazer and Mort both reporting it. I think he's pulling a Pete Carroll and getting out of Eugene before the NCAA swings the hammer. Would have loved to see him in Cleveland but I'm happy with Chudzinsky as a consolation prize.

EDIT- You beat me to the Pete Carroll reference, JMark. Didn't see it when I posted.

No worries. Shouldn't come as a surprise, so it wasnt really a secret. Just what I'm hearing.

[Blake]

Yeah, gotta be sanctions coming for him to leave a sweet set up like what he had in Oregon.

[JoeTait75]

:lmao Most overrated program in recent memory
:lmao Routinely exposed by USC, Boise, Stanford, the SEC, and anyone else with a defense

It isn't as if Oregon is a legacy program. He did well to have them competing at the level they were.

[JMarkJohns]

He's a good coach, innovative to a point, great X/O guy, but small and fast won't work vs. big and fast, so he'll need to adjust some, which I expect.

[NFO]

Yeah, gotta be sanctions coming for him to leave a sweet set up like what he had in Oregon.

Yep, because you know Oregon and/or Phil Knight have the cash to pay him just as much if not more than what Philly would be willing to pay him.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol anyone who thinks Chip Kelly is gonna run that offense in the NFL. He ran that offense because it's what worked best with the personnel he had and fared very well in a conference that lacked speed on defense. His offense also got better at passing every year as Mariota was one of the most efficient passers in college last year. As JoeTait said, it's not like Oregon is a legacy program.

Kelly strikes me as a coach who designs his system based off his personnel, which is how coaches should be. It'll be a huge improvement over Andy Reid who was basically the polar opposite trying to turn Mike Vick into a pocket passer and the Eagles into an elite passing team when their best player is Lesean McCoy.

[JMarkJohns]

I think he'll adapt to an extent, but I don't think he's going to keep Foles and adapt for a traditional dropback system. I doubt he goes full option, goes small across the line, and tries to find as many Sprohls as he can, but I can see him doing something very similar to San Francisco or Seattle. I can see Smith being an option, or maybe Colt McCoy for a year or two while they develop some ideal type.

[Avante]

Bad bad hire, as we will see.

[Raven]

I have absolutely no idea what he will do or if he'l be good at all, but i'm happy for the move, just for the sake of not seeing always the same head coaches rotate in the nfl.

[symple19]

If Vick is still the starter you'll see plenty of read option looks as well as the hunh. Doubt he'll run it all the time, but I definitely expect to see a few wrinkles from his college system.

That being said, Vick is a bum and Kelly, like so many others, will only be as successful as the performance at the QB position allows him to be.

Could be wrong, but I expect him to fail (considering the QB) and be back in CFB within 4 years

[JMarkJohns]

He'll have return stipulation of some of these sanctions likely following him.

Nobody has any proof he'll fail. His system has succeeded in variations in New England, Seattle, Washington. With the league now in a hurry up and option-read trend, now his the best time for him to succeed.

He's a great X/O guy, and has proven capable of winning with three types of QBs. If he's capable of adapting some, his scheme is made for a speed game.

[Pelicans78]

:lol anyone who thinks Chip Kelly is gonna run that offense in the NFL. He ran that offense because it's what worked best with the personnel he had and fared very well in a conference that lacked speed on defense. His offense also got better at passing every year as Mariota was one of the most efficient passers in college last year. As JoeTait said, it's not like Oregon is a legacy program.

Kelly strikes me as a coach who designs his system based off his personnel, which is how coaches should be. It'll be a huge improvement over Andy Reid who was basically the polar opposite trying to turn Mike Vick into a pocket passer and the Eagles into an elite passing team when their best player is Lesean McCoy.

Alot of these idiots (Clipper Nation) think he's a spread option coach when he's run multiple offenses during his coaching career. Like you said, he will run the offense best suited for his personnel.

[Pelicans78]

If Vick is still the starter you'll see plenty of read option looks as well as the hunh. Doubt he'll run it all the time, but I definitely expect to see a few wrinkles from his college system.

That being said, Vick is a bum and Kelly, like so many others, will only be as successful as the performance at the QB position allows him to be.

Could be wrong, but I expect him to fail (considering the QB) and be back in CFB within 4 years

I doubt Vick will be his long-term QB. He is definitely gonna have to find a new QB to be successful long-term.

[vander]

:lol anyone who thinks Chip Kelly is gonna run that offense in the NFL. He ran that offense because it's what worked best with the personnel he had and fared very well in a conference that lacked speed on defense. His offense also got better at passing every year as Mariota was one of the most efficient passers in college last year. As JoeTait said, it's not like Oregon is a legacy program.

Kelly strikes me as a coach who designs his system based off his personnel, which is how coaches should be. It'll be a huge improvement over Andy Reid who was basically the polar opposite trying to turn Mike Vick into a pocket passer and the Eagles into an elite passing team when their best player is Lesean McCoy.

did Kelly run a traditional offense at New Hampshire?

didn't seem to me that Kelly adapted to the spread option at Oregon because that's what players he had at Oregon, that was his system and he was deploying it and recruiting players to fit it.

[Blake]

Bad bad hire, as we will see.

You don't know that. What is known is that there seems to be better hires out there.

They fired an offensive guy and brought in an offensive guy.

Seems to me they need to really work on that bad defense.

[Blake]

Bad bad hire, as we will see.

You don't know that. What is known is that there seems to be better hires out there.

They fired an offensive guy and brought in an offensive guy.

Seems to me they need to really work on that bad defense.

[Ghazi]

:lmao Nike U Willie Lyles
:lmao Crippling sanctions on the way
:lmao Most overrated program in recent memory
:lmao Routinely exposed by USC, Boise, Stanford, the SEC, and anyone else with a defense
:lmao Chipball only good for Nike marketing campaigns, not for winning on the big stage

:lol at this epic fail of a post

1. Boise State was Chip's FIRST fucking game.
2. 2-2 v Stanford averaging 40 PPG, 3-1 v USC averaging 50 PPG. somehow those programs expose him? :lmao
3. Auburn/LSU were great teams, it happens. that LSU defense was amazing. Losing by a FG in the title game to Scam Newton doesn't "expose" a team.

Oregon was a top 3 program the past 4 years no matter how you spin it. Would've been a treat to watch Oregon/Alabama this year... I believe Kelley would've eventually won a national championship at Oregon, this year's team was probably the best of his 4.

[Avante]

You don't know that. What is known is that there seems to be better hires out there.

They fired an offensive guy and brought in an offensive guy.

Seems to me they need to really work on that bad defense.

Yes I do know that, if he tries what we saw at Oregon. Which is why he got hired....right?

Only chance he has in the NFL is to be somebody else.

[Clipper Nation]

Would've been a treat to watch Oregon/Alabama this year...
How so? Bama would have blown them the fuck out, tbh....

[Avante]

How so? Bama would have blown them the fuck out, tbh....

Bullshit!

Oregon had by far the better skilled position players over ND. Far more team speed, they had SEC type speed. They would have gave Bama a hell of a game until late in the game, yes Bama wins but it was close. 34-24...ish. But for 3 quarters the outcome was in doubt.

Oregon also destroys ND as would have Texas A&M.

[Blake]

Yes I do know that, if he tries what we saw at Oregon. Which is why he got hired....right?

Only chance he has in the NFL is to be somebody else.

So you're saying he is going to do at Philly what he did at Oregon.

You constantly post shitty takes such as this.

Why is that?

[Avante]

So you're saying he is going to do at Philly what he did at Oregon.

You constantly post shitty takes such as this.

Why is that?

You really are brain dead aren't you?

Why was Kelly hired?

[tlongII]

Kelly will do well in the NFL. I'm sure he'll run the spread, but it won't necessarily be the read option. His New Hampshire teams were passing teams, not running teams like Oregon. He's a smart dude.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Bullshit!

Oregon had by far the better skilled position players over ND. Far more team speed, they had SEC type speed. They would have gave Bama a hell of a game until late in the game, yes Bama wins but it was close. 34-24...ish. But for 3 quarters the outcome was in doubt.

Oregon also destroys ND as would have Texas A&M.

They might have SEC speed on offense, but they sure as hell don't have SEC strength on defense. They probably would've bottled up Cooper a little better, but Yeldon and Lacy still would've had a field day.

[Avante]

They might have SEC speed on offense, but they sure as hell don't have SEC strength on defense. They probably would've bottled up Cooper a little better, but Yeldon and Lacy still would've had a field day.

Yes I agree about Lacy/Yeldon. What I said was that Oregon would also move the ball and score. Kenyon Barner/DeAnthony Thomas on a par with anything Bama faced all season. Now add their mobile QB who is a Keapernick clone.

[Blake]

You really are brain dead aren't you?

Why was Kelly hired?

Because he's a hot commodity.

you suck again.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think he'll end up in Philly. Perfect fit for him, if they keep Vick. That team is loaded with speed (Vick, McCoy, Jackson, Maclin)

:smokin

[BUMP]

This could end up being a great hire for Philly. They have some ridiculously n!ggerific athletes and if anybody can figure out how to utilize that well it's Kelly