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DarrinS
01-07-2013, 05:08 PM
that he was never offered.


LMAO at this smug mofo


http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/the-outside-man/






Yes, I’ve heard about the notion that I should be nominated as Treasury Secretary. I’m flattered, but it really is a bad idea.

Part of the reason is that I am indeed the World’s Worst Administrator — and that does matter. Someone else can do the paperwork — but an administrative job requires making hiring and firing decisions, it means keeping track of many things, and that, to say the least, is not my forte.

Oh, and there’s not a chance that I would be confirmed.

But the main point, as I see it, is that it would mean taking me out of a quasi-official job that I believe I’m good at and putting me into one I’d be bad at.

So first of all, let’s talk frankly about the job I have. The New York Times isn’t just some newspaper somewhere, it’s the nation’s paper of record. As a result, being an op-ed columnist at the Times is a pretty big deal — one I’m immensely grateful to have been granted — and those who hold the position, if they know how to use it effectively, have a lot more influence on national debate than, say, most senators. Does anyone doubt that the White House pays attention to what I write?

Now, officials inside the administration can of course have even more influence — but only if they’re good at a very different kind of game, that of persuading the president and his inner circle in behind-closed-doors discussion. And everything I know about myself says that I’m not very good at that game.

By my reckoning, then, an administration job, no matter how senior, would actually reduce my influence, leaving me unable to say publicly what I really think and all too probably finding myself unable to make headway in internal debates.

So again, I’m flattered — but I think I should stay in my current position as Mr. Outside, an annoying if sympathetic voice they can’t ignore.

TeyshaBlue
01-07-2013, 05:28 PM
In other news, I was not offered the Heisman Trophy.

Winehole23
01-07-2013, 05:36 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203198&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200078&p=5982145&viewfull=1#post5982145
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183761&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164868&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161544&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161368&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157059&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146406&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128530&highlight=krugman

Winehole23
01-07-2013, 05:37 PM
no one gives Paul Krugman more face time in this forum than DarrinS. gotta crush?

DarrinS
01-07-2013, 05:41 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203198&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200078&p=5982145&viewfull=1#post5982145
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183761&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164868&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161544&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161368&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157059&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146406&highlight=krugman
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128530&highlight=krugman


You've mastered the search feature. Congrats.

DarrinS
01-07-2013, 05:43 PM
Check out the front page of Huffington Post. I guess they have a crush, too.

KRUGMAN URGES:
MINT THE COIN


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/07/paul-krugman-trillion-dollar-coin_n_2427160.html

Winehole23
01-07-2013, 05:55 PM
you might also be this forum's number one regurgitator of HuffPo aggregated content. give yourself a pat on the back.

boutons_deux
01-07-2013, 06:00 PM
PK wasn't offered the job.

all he's saying is that he wouldn't take that job in spite of Some People proposing it.

ChumpDumper
01-07-2013, 06:14 PM
Check out the front page of Huffington Post. I guess they have a crush, too.

KRUGMAN URGES:
MINT THE COIN


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/07/paul-krugman-trillion-dollar-coin_n_2427160.htmlWell, theirs would be understandable.

What about yours?

Winehole23
01-07-2013, 07:59 PM
Howard Stern effect -- hating on someone is like a crush, only more intense

Spurminator
01-07-2013, 09:07 PM
Reverse Racism, Krugman and HuffPo. 9 out of 10 threads about any of these topics were probably started by DarrinS.

Wild Cobra
01-08-2013, 04:56 AM
In other news, I was not offered the Heisman Trophy.
And I did not make most valuable poster of 2012.

Winehole23
01-08-2013, 03:55 PM
Former Mint Director Who Wrote ‘Trillion-Dollar Coin’ Law Explains Why the Coin Isn’t a Bad Idea http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17rl172daxw6wjpg/avt-small.jpg Max Read

It's not every day you get an email from a former director of the U.S. Mint (unless you're married to one, probably) — but it's also not every day that you write about the very real possibility that the U.S. Treasury might mint a platinum coin worth one trillion dollars (http://gawker.com/5973717). Either way, it was an excellent surprise to hear from Philip Diehl, the former Mint director and Treasury chief of staff who drafted Sec. 5112 of title 31, United States Code with Rep. Mike Castle — in other words, the guy who wrote the "trillion-dollar coin" law. His take? Not only does the law clearly allow for the coin to be minted, it also would have "no negative macroeconomic effects."


While we at Gawker support the trillion-dollar coin as much for the possibility of making it 16 feet tall and engraved with the runes from Zep IV as for its policy merits, it's good to hear that the co-drafter of the law itself is essentially on board. Here's his full email:


I'm the former Mint director and Treasury chief of staff who, with Rep. Mike Castle, wrote the platinum coin law (Sec. 5112 of title 31, United States Code) and oversaw minting of the original coin authorized by the law, so I'm in a unique position to address some confusion I've seen in the media about the $1 trillion platinum coin proposal.




In minting the $1 trillion platinum coin, the Treasury Secretary would be exercising authority which Congress has granted routinely for more than 220 years. The Secretary's authority is derived from an Act of Congress (in fact, a GOP Congress) under power expressly granted to Congress in the Constitution (Article 1, Section 8). What is unusual about the law is that it gives the Secretary discretion regarding all specifications of the coin, including denominations.
The accounting treatment of the coin is identical to the treatment of all other coins. The Mint strikes the coin, ships it to the Fed, books $1 trillion, and transfers $1 trillion to the treasury's general fund where it is available to finance government operations just like with proceeds of bond sales or additional tax revenues. The same applies for a quarter dollar.
Once the debt limit is raised, the Fed could ship the coin back to the Mint where the accounting treatment would be reversed and the coin melted. The coin would never be "issued" or circulated and bonds would not be needed to back the coin.
There are no negative macroeconomic effects. This works just like additional tax revenue or borrowing under a higher debt limit. In fact, when the debt limit is raised, Treasury would sell more bonds, the $1 trillion dollars would be taken off the books, and the coin would be melted.
This does not raise the debt limit so it can't be characterized as circumventing congressional authority over the debt limit. Rather, it delays when the debt limit is reached. Those who claim otherwise are misinformed or pursuing an agenda.
This preserves congressional authority over the debt limit in a way that reliance on the 14th Amendment would not. It also avoids the protracted court battles the 14th Amendment option would entail and avoids another confrontation with the Roberts Court.
Any court challenge is likely to be quickly dismissed since (1) authority to mint the coin is firmly rooted in law that itself is grounded in the expressed constitutional powers of Congress, (2) Treasury has routinely exercised this authority since the birth of the republic, and (3) the accounting treatment of the coin is entirely routine.
Yes, this is an unintended consequence of the platinum coin bill, but how many other laws have had unintended consequences? Most, I'd guess. The fact that this use of the authority granted by Congress is unintended has no bearing on its legality or constitutionality.

Philip N. Diehl

United States Mint


http://gawker.com/5974218/former-mint-director-who-wrote-trillion+dollar-coin-law-explains-why-the-coin-isnt-a-bad-idea

TeyshaBlue
01-08-2013, 04:18 PM
http://gawker.com/5974218/former-mint-director-who-wrote-trillion+dollar-coin-law-explains-why-the-coin-isnt-a-bad-idea

Man, I miss Robert Heinlein.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-08-2013, 07:04 PM
Man, I miss Robert Heinlein.

grok you!

TeyshaBlue
01-09-2013, 10:52 AM
grok you!

Seems like a TANSTAAFL moment to me.:lol